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Ok, i know this is a question in the dev section but i think it belongs here, if mods think different then please move.
As the title says really - if i choose not to try the S-OFF - will i be left behind later on down the line with regard to custom ROM's??
If i bricked my phone the wife would go bonkers, so i am really wary at the moment with trying it as there is a higher chance of bricking it. Anyhow thats a seperate issue..
So maybe some devs can answer my question??.. Am i at some point gonna have to take the plunge or is it more of a nice thing to have, more than a necessity?
Or is there likely to be a later version that has a lesser chance of bricking if does go wrong??
Cheers all for any replies..
I think that if a custom ROM requires S-OFF it will have a good reason, or the dev is being lazy.
Also HTC is very likely to plug the exploit that gives S-OFF at some point, if it's possible to do so.
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You dont need a security unlocked device, there will be no diffrence apart from the fact you wont have any write access to the nand chip while the device is booted
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Kool.. So more of a nice thing to have rather than a must!. Appreciate replies.. I will hold off doing it.
Cheers
wingnutta said:
Kool.. So more of a nice thing to have rather than a must!. Appreciate replies.. I will hold off doing it.
Cheers
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It really is a simple procedure though, its as easy as booting a live cd, connectiong your device and pressing enter
AndroHero said:
It really is a simple procedure though, its as easy as booting a live cd, connectiong your device and pressing enter
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I do agree from what i have read, but for me personally the risk at this time is too much.. If anything did go wrong i would be kicking myself.
Maybe at a later date as i said if a more less risky version comes out.
wingnutta said:
I do agree from what i have read, but for me personally the risk at this time is too much.. If anything did go wrong i would be kicking myself.
Maybe at a later date as i said if a more less risky version comes out.
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No such thing. It's not the application that's risky, it's the procedure in general. You're in essence flashing the lowest level of your phone, if it fails the phone will be useless but the chance of it failing is almost negligible.
one thing i am willing to ask. does that mean that turning security to off, you do not need to pay for unlock codes? you can just turn s-off and flash a rom and it will unlock the phone?
sorry for the dumb question!
S-OFF won't sim unlock the phone.
A lot of people are flashing this without knowing what it does, which is just plain stupid. The risk is minimal, but there is a risk that it will totally brick the phone permanently. Nobody should flash it unless they want to use S-OFF for something. It'll also absolutely guaranteed to void the warranty, there's no way HTC will touch a phone if you return it with the S-OFF bootloader (though it is easy to remove).
At the moment it's most useful for devs, in order to test changes without the need for reboot/recovery/reboot.
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S-OFF won't sim unlock the phone.
A lot of people are flashing this without knowing what it does, which is just plain stupid. The risk is minimal, but there is a risk that it will totally brick the phone permanently. Nobody should flash it unless they want to use S-OFF for something. It'll also absolutely guaranteed to void the warranty, there's no way HTC will touch a phone if you return it with the S-OFF bootloader (though it is easy to remove).
At the moment it's most useful for devs, in order to test changes without the need for reboot/recovery/reboot.
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no need for normal usage of the phone ... you can also do all without s-off ... with s-off you dont have to reboot everytime ...
teppic74 said:
S-OFF won't sim unlock the phone.
A lot of people are flashing this without knowing what it does, which is just plain stupid. The risk is minimal, but there is a risk that it will totally brick the phone permanently....
At the moment it's most useful for devs, in order to test changes without the need for reboot/recovery/reboot.
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That statement will do me nicely! Me not a dev...
how can i unlock G2 ?? if it free how ? ad if not , what is the cheapest and TRUSTED way by the web ? thnks all
using stock kernal, and use gfree
man what is gfree and how 2 use it ?
look in dev section, there is guides on how to use gfree and root, best is to look at xda vision wiki
No one here is going to hold your hand through it. You have to search and learn a little. Then you will notice a lot more help
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The term "unlocked" is confusing. Do you mean rooted or SIM unlocked?
Either way, it can be done for free. Link has instructions for rooting. If you want SIM unlocked, you need to root AND be Subsidy Unlocked. This method is considered the safest.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
Look up rooting g2 no abd required. If you have a new one. You will have to downgrade after u get s-off but no root and then do the same process again. Holding hands is good.
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helpppppppppppppppp meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee , i cant do it !
moe898 said:
helpppppppppppppppp meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee , i cant do it !
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You're going to need to type more than a couple words if you want real help. Did you try any root methods? If so, which one, and where are you stuck. You haven't told us enough to allow us to help you at all.
I've posted the instructions for rooting and getting subsidy unlock in my previous response.
lsn man , i dont do anything cuz am a beginner , i cant understand anything of the wiki says !
Why are so many people unwilling to learn anything any more?
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well seems like you don't want to do it yourself sooo...
go on craigslist and pay someone to root it for you -_-
I wonder if the guy can explain why he wants it rooted.
moe898 said:
lsn man , i dont do anything cuz am a beginner , i cant understand anything of the wiki says !
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if you dont try, then you wont learn. Read the link and if you have any specific questions then ask.
the wiki is as "rooting for idiots" as it gets. if you can't follow the steps one by one, then pay someone to root it for you.
This is a sticky from here. Follow the directions to the letter. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=928160 It's not that hard. Just follow the DIRECTIONS. Failure to follow the directions will result in a high dollar paper weight. If you brick your phone it was by your own doing. Just know the outcome if you mess up.
Don't pay attention to all these people telling you that you'll "learn" if you really want it done. We were all new at some point, and I never have seen the usefulness in comments like that. Anyway, there are lots of us out there willing to help, post up exactly what you don't understand and I'll do my best to help you out. However, whatever you do DO NOT attempt perm rooting with visionary, your phone would most likely turn into a really pretty paperweight
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PaganAng3l said:
Don't pay attention to all these people telling you that you'll "learn" if you really want it done. We were all new at some point, and I never have seen the usefulness in comments like that. Anyway, there are lots of us out there willing to help, post up exactly what you don't understand and I'll do my best to help you out. However, whatever you do DO NOT attempt perm rooting with visionary, your phone would most likely turn into a really pretty paperweight
Sent from my shiny metal G2 w/ meXdroid V3
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i disagree with you. I have been here at xda for a long time and I relied first on reading instructions that have been posted a long time ago and when I had questions I specifically ask about the part I didn't understand not shoot first and ask later.
Here on xda since 2008. If he honestly wants real help then he has to make an effort to learn not just look at the wiki and just throw a general help cry. The wiki has the instructions step by step. If you have specific questions about a step or two, then ask that, not "I'M NOT A PRO, HELP PLS"
Speaking of root I can't have a pc so I can't downgrade to stock ota don't really want to either. I'm guessing only way to root is still going to need me to downgrade.
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Kdnts07 said:
Speaking of root I can't have a pc so I can't downgrade to stock ota don't really want to either. I'm guessing only way to root is still going to need me to downgrade.
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well, based on my understanding (I might be wrong) but I believe it is possible to downgrade from your phone via sd. Again, I might be wrong, but if that is possible then you might be able to achieve root once you do the downgrade. Otherwise, maybe you can borrow a friend's PC to do the downgrade.
Good luck
This should explain how to root.
Hello frnds,I recently bought Galaxy y which is good and awesome. I came to know that by rooting we can access more things which we do not with unroot device. I am ready to do root but i want to know what to do before and after rooting, backup, custom rom and some other things and how to do those things. Please frnds help me out because i am going to root my device.
Thanks & Regards
R.Kishore
rooting is verry easy just follow the simple steps. please dont be nervous. just relax what you are doing on your phone.
kishore55 said:
Hello frnds,I recently bought Galaxy y which is good and awesome. I came to know that by rooting we can access more things which we do not with unroot device. I am ready to do root but i want to know what to do before and after rooting, backup, custom rom and some other things and how to do those things. Please frnds help me out because i am going to root my device.
Thanks & Regards
R.Kishore
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ignore if u did it.
its easy to get ur answer if u just google it,cos many sites are offering that rooting info/stuff.
Check here on how to root your phone: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20033919&postcount=1
And don't be nervous … rooting feels like a big step the first time you have an android phone. But it's not. The longer you own the phone, the more you will learn and the more you will want to try out with it. There will be days when you will flash and completely set up about 10 different ROMs. There will be days when you will brick your phone. Those days are still rather far away for you.
No need to do anything before and after rooting. It's so small of a change that you will hardly even notice it.
Welcome to the forums, have fun and good luck with rooting!
Thanks very much to all for ur responses...
Yeah i referd XDA and rooting is easy but my request is what to do before we do root like backup or something and after rooting what the thing we shud to first like custom rom creations..something like that...
kishore55 said:
Thanks very much to all for ur responses...
Yeah i referd XDA and rooting is easy but my request is what to do before we do root like backup or something and after rooting what the thing we shud to first like custom rom creations..something like that...
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you dont have to create custom roms...............you just download and install the created roms by different devs....from the development.....and before rooting backup your current stock rom through CWM Recovery...........
rohit589769 said:
you dont have to create custom roms...............you just download and install the created roms by different devs....from the development.....and before rooting backup your current stock rom through CWM Recovery...........
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is it possible to use CWM backup even phone is not rooted?
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ofc it is, in recovery mode it doesn't matter if you are root or not.
And you don't have to so anything before and after rooting, it can easily be reverted and everything will stay the same.
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Ok frnds atlast i rooted my device..hmm.....But
Now what to do,...i have some requests please clear them..[ iam newbie dnt know anything so my requests will be basic for you but plz clear them]...
1..What the formost thing to do after rooting...and how to do..?
2..Which is the best way to backup my existing rom, so that if anything happens i can get back to last known gud config.
3..What are the application which can make my device a super device after rooting..[like playing hd games, changing looks, performance boost..etc]...
4...Custom Rom and kernal, i dnt know anything about these things but very often u people refer and is these things are available for Galaxy y, if s then how to do..
Thanks in advance...
Recently, i experienced the drama of having a hard bricked phone. Its a real headache, because you know that you wasted money into a useless brick, and if you send it to the assistence, you arent going have your cell phone for weeks, or even months. So, maybe you already heard those advices, but you need to make sure you never will never commit such an error.
Im not talking that root may damage your phone. If you do it right, it will not. But what can brick your phone is your attitude after root. Flash roms or kernels can brick your phone, but only using avast anti thief root options can not. Have this in mind.
1- NEVER (repeating, never) flash something that ISNT for your phone. It may be to the HNA-G7533339LS, but if you flash it on the HNA-G7533339 without those LS, you can get into touble. The firmware were for GT-S7500, but i flashed it in a GT-S7500L. Result: Brick
2- Dont think that if you have Clockworkmod backup or something like that, you cant brick anyway. If your bootloader gets corrupted, nothing will save you. Nothing. And you may corrupt it by flashing roms the wrong way.
3- Read the comments at the ROM that you are going flash, at less. Or make a search at Google. It may save your ass. Recently, lots of Galaxy S II owners had trouble with a leaked ICS kernel, and they bricked their phones, so read before doing ****.
4- I dont recommend flashing homemade custom roms or flashing untested ROMs, but someone needs to be the first. Only do this if you are really sure of what you are doing.
5- Asking dont hurts. If you are uncertain, ask. Its the best way to avoid problems.
6- For security reasons, always flash having a recently charged cell phone, seated on something, to avoid a falling smartphone. Also, if flashing throught ODIN, its preferable using a charged notebook.
7- Have a usb jig at your home. It may save you at some cases. You can buy one at www.dealextreme.com , or make your own.
8- And the last, after a hard brick, dont think your game is over. If you are under warranty, and your cell phone is truly bricked, send it to a assistance, and play dumb, like "I dont know what happened, but it turned off and isnt rebooting anyway". It isnt right to lie, but it may be necessary, for serious. Thay arent going cover a custom flashed phone. If it isnt under warranty, find someone with a riff box at your city. It may fix your phone.
I hope those advices can help you to avoid headaches.And know that Im not saying "dont flash roms". They may wonderfully boost your phone, and give it a new face. Only be sure of what you are doing Sorry by my bad english (it isnt my native language) , and bye!
gabriel2anjos said:
Recently, i experienced the drama of having a hard bricked phone. Its a real headache, because you know that you wasted money into a useless brick, and if you send it to the assistence, you arent going have your cell phone for weeks, or even months. So, maybe you already heard those advices, but you need to make sure you never will never commit such an error.
Im not talking that root may damage your phone. If you do it right, it will not. But what can brick your phone is your attitude after root. Flash roms or kernels can brick your phone, but only using avast anti thief root options can not. Have this in mind.
I hope those advices can help you to avoid headaches.And know that Im not saying "dont flash roms". They may wonderfully boost your phone, and give it a new face. Only be sure of what you are doing Sorry by my bad english (it isnt my native language) , and bye!
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Hey Thanks a lot for this.. I really needed this.. if it is possible then please help me with my doubts...
OK.. I will directly get to the point... I want to do "something" for my phone, the Galaxy S Advance... like create a custom Kernel or a ROM for this device... Now I'm a total "newbie" in all these.. so this will be my first time... now my question is: Which will be easier and SAFER to make; a custom ROM or a kernel?... Because I will obviously be the first one to try my own creation so like please tell me which one will be safer for me to try out? So that even if I do something wrong - I will still be able to fix it without spending any money on Repairing from shops...
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Hey Thanks a lot for this.. I really needed this.. if it is possible then please help me with my doubts...
OK.. I will directly get to the point... I want to do "something" for my phone, the Galaxy S Advance... like create a custom Kernel or a ROM for this device... Now I'm a total "newbie" in all these.. so this will be my first time... now my question is: Which will be easier and SAFER to make; a custom ROM or a kernel?... Because I will obviously be the first one to try my own creation so like please tell me which one will be safer for me to try out? So that even if I do something wrong - I will still be able to fix it without spending any money on Repairing from shops...
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If it's your first time and you don't know a lot about these, the safer(and easier) would be, for sure, trying to create a custom ROM. A kernel requires lots of knowledge, you need to compile things, code, make magic.... It's hard and dangerous, cause it's the bridge between firmware and hardware. If something go wrong, you are gonna have a bad time. But the rom creation process is much more easy, there are lots of tutorials, and if u know how to use Linux there is even a tool called dsxda kitchen(or something like that). The chances of bricking are smaller(but are still present) and it usually makes the device better.
So, if u are really need it, first get experience creating a ROM. Only think about kernels later.
Hope I helped, and good luck :thumbup:
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Useful video for newbies
I've uploaded one video on YouTube last January, that should help beginners what to do, as well as read in the text step by step and translate it (many people who visit this forum don't understand very well english, so they can copy&paste it into their translators). Here is the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NXBN9Z63TY
Last January I've read in different forums that many people had issues with "E: signature verification failed" even after successful root, as sometimes they just rooted but didn't have CWM recovery yet.
There were no good explainations how to solve it so I did that video, on the example of Samsung Tab 2 GT-P5110.
The video has helped many people, meanwhile it's clicked nearly 50K times....
Cheers!
My Micromax Bolt Q370 doesn't have any custom recovery available. But I am rooted, Xposed Installed. (Installed using terminal), Dolby Atmos installed (Installed through Flashfire).
Yeah, but I soft bricked it many times (6 times) and have to fix it in service centre.
Now I know what's healthy for my phone, and what bricks my phone. Now I'm stopped playing with root apps, until somebody make a custom recovery for my phone.
gabriel2anjos said:
If it's your first time and you don't know a lot about these, the safer(and easier) would be, for sure, trying to create a custom ROM. A kernel requires lots of knowledge, you need to compile things, code, make magic.... It's hard and dangerous, cause it's the bridge between firmware and hardware. If something go wrong, you are gonna have a bad time. But the rom creation process is much more easy, there are lots of tutorials, and if u know how to use Linux there is even a tool called dsxda kitchen(or something like that). The chances of bricking are smaller(but are still present) and it usually makes the device better.
So, if u are really need it, first get experience creating a ROM. Only think about kernels later.
Hope I helped, and good luck :thumbup:
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yet the lineage OS devs STRONGLY advise AGAINST me doing this since i dont know what im doing, so how tf is this easier 0.0 (as my device is unsupported)
Please, there is nothing on this site about Rooting THIS FIRMWARE, and since I can brick aka destroy my phone, don't you dare to tell me to try the 21 firmware method for my phone. Please, I want somebody to write a detailed guide on how to root this device since I cant move apps to sd card so with 4.9 GB that my phone has i can only have 2 good games on it.. I really need and want it rooted but I dont know more less nothing about rooting and cant help myself and I see that also nobody else on this site helps about my device. Please somebody write a guide on how to root this NEW FIRMWARE of Sony T3 device. And please, I dont want to brick my phone so be sure in what you write!
OneClickROOT Try.
http://www.oneclickroot.com
Thank you! But that seems to good to be true, they probably want money right?
Yep, after seeing many nice stuff and after seeing that they really want to help ( finally someone ) by saying we care about are people and similar, I saw mentioning of money. Of course. I know I will never root my phone and nobody will ever do anything. Thenx
You can root?
No.