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Stuck on boot (post-A2SD)

Hey,
First, I'd like to thank everyone who's contributed to these forums. I've been visiting often lately and the progress is awesome. And, this is my first post =)
So, I rooted my Desire. Made a nandroid backup using ROM Manager, and started trying different ROMs. I finally decided to go back to the stock ROM, and so restored my backup.
Then I decided to install a2sd. So I booted into AM Recovery, restored factory defaults, and wiped the cache. I then installed the zip from the same menu (r1-a2sd-desire-dalvik-fresh-signed.zip) and proceeded to partitioning. SWAP=0, ext2=384. Then I upgraded(?) ext2 to ext3 (again, from the same recovery menu).
And now, when I reboot my device it gets stuck on the first HTC splash screen. It doesn't even reach the animation. I've heard it takes some time to write caches or something but it's been at least 15 minutes already. Any ideas?
Of course, I know I can always restore my nandroid backup, but I want to get a2sd working.

Ok, first go back to Recovery. Did you wipe the SD:EXT partition too?
Wipe the following:
Factory Reset
Dalvik Cache
SD: EXT
Make sure your card is formatted as FAT32.
You may have to reflash the actual stock rom.
If you can get hold of another sd card, download the stock rom zip and apps2sd zip and place onto sd card using a card reader or another phone that accepts micro sd cards, re-insert sd card into phone, enter recovery, wipe everything, flash stock rom, apply Apps2SD zip in recovery zip after, then partition with 0Mb swap, 512Mb ext2, rest to FAT32. Convert ext2 to ext3.
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Just to clarify, when you say flash stock rom, you mean rootedupdate.zip right? (The one used in the rooting process)
UPDATE: Ok, I just did it with rootedupdate.zip but got the same problem. I wiped to factory defaults, wiped the caches, and SD: EXT. Then installed rootedupdate.zip. Then installed Apps2SD, partitioned to your recommended values, and converted ext2 to ext3.
Still, HTC boot logo has been there for a good 10 min. It didn't even reach the animation. I've heard it could take some time to update caches or something like that. Could it possibly take that long?

Lil.Fl0w said:
Just to clarify, when you say flash stock rom, you mean rootedupdate.zip right? (The one used in the rooting process)
UPDATE: Ok, I just did it with rootedupdate.zip but got the same problem. I wiped to factory defaults, wiped the caches, and SD: EXT. Then installed rootedupdate.zip. Then installed Apps2SD, partitioned to your recommended values, and converted ext2 to ext3.
Still, HTC boot logo has been there for a good 10 min. It didn't even reach the animation. I've heard it could take some time to update caches or something like that. Could it possible take that long?
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Try in this exact order:
UPDATE: Ok, I just did it with rootedupdate.zip but got the same problem. I wiped to factory defaults, wiped the caches, and SD: EXT, partitioned to your recommended values, and converted ext2 to ext3. Then installed rootedupdate.zip. Then installed Apps2SD

shawe_ewahs said:
Try in this exact order:
UPDATE: Ok, I just did it with rootedupdate.zip but got the same problem. I wiped to factory defaults, wiped the caches, and SD: EXT, partitioned to your recommended values, and converted ext2 to ext3. Then installed rootedupdate.zip. Then installed Apps2SD
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Ok this is driving me nuts. I did exactly as you asked and it reached the same problem - stuck on the HTC boot screen before the animation even starts.
Funny thing is, I tried installing Amer's bravox ROM which includes Apps2SD (after partitioning my SD of course) and it worked! I'm sure it did because I tried installing a few apps and internal memory barely changed, and did the "su ls -l /data" test as well.
I'm just lost now. Btw, I'm not using a goldcard but I can boot just fine into recovery and all, and my device is not locked.
Any ideas? I've attached the Apps2SD zip I tried. It's worth mentioning, I've tried downloading it from quite a few different sources.
EDIT: I have a feeling the problem lies where BOOT is formatted during the Apps2SD installation. Is it supposed to?

I did everything you did in the first post and my desire gets stuck at htc loading screen. I followed the installation guide from here and just realized that it is actually not meant for bootloader .80 http://nimbu.amorvi.com/2010/05/how-to-root-your-htc-desire/#comments
What can I do to fix all these? Help needed urgently

benleong2008 said:
I did everything you did in the first post and my desire gets stuck at htc loading screen. I followed the installation guide from here and just realized that it is actually not meant for bootloader .80 http://nimbu.amorvi.com/2010/05/how-to-root-your-htc-desire/#comments
What can I do to fix all these? Help needed urgently
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That post only says the rooting procedure is different for .80, not Apps2SD.
Like I mentioned before, I'm not sure what the problem is, but ROMs with Apps2SD built in work just fine, so that's what I'm doing.

Lil: In the past, Ive tried the a2sd file you attached and I was also not able to boot past the HTC screen so I just used MCR 3.1 with app2sd+.
You may want to try flashing the ROM with a gold card. I have an unbranded Desire and I need to use the gold card when I rooted or need to re-flash to stock. HTH.

amf said:
You may want to try flashing the ROM with a gold card. I have an unbranded Desire and I need to use the gold card when I rooted or need to re-flash to stock. HTH.
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You mean reflashing rootedupdate.zip with a gold card? Because I remember trying without one, and it didn't work. Then I tried with one, and was a hassle. Tried again without, and it did work. So I'm guessing I might've missed something the first time I tried without a gold card..?
But from what I understood, it doesn't matter. As long as you're rooted you don't need a gold card, and the rooting process either works all the way or doesn't at all. Did I get something wrong?
And, just to make sure I understood you right, using a gold card should allow me to use the zip above?

If I remember it correctly, I copied the ROM I'm flashing to a gold card and used that card to flash the ROM.

Uhoh...Need Help Please :) Fresh .5.3

So I completed step 2 of root today and decided to flash Fresh .5.3
Wiped data, but forgot to wipe SD card. Began to boot loop so I read that I would need to partition the SD card. I tried to Flash back to Fresh .2 in order to backup my SD card and began to boot loop there too.
So I go into recovery and partition (0,0)
I'm still boot looping Fresh .2 and I can't flash anything else (read: my backup) because I wiped the SD card.
Help would be greatly appreciated

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7028432#post7028432

zhensley said:
So I completed step 2 of root today and decided to flash Fresh .5.3
Wiped data, but forgot to wipe SD card. Began to boot loop so I read that I would need to partition the SD card. I tried to Flash back to Fresh .2 in order to backup my SD card and began to boot loop there too.
So I go into recovery and partition (0,0)
I'm still boot looping Fresh .2 and I can't flash anything else (read: my backup) because I wiped the SD card.
Help would be greatly appreciated
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LOL, Just format your SDCard using a PC, download the ROM to you SD and flash it again. Note - You dont need to wipe your SD Card lol

Kykiskly said:
LOL, Just format your SDCard using a PC, download the ROM to you SD and flash it again. Note - You dont need to wipe your SD Card lol
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flipz says that you should wipe your sd card for whatever reason. so he was just following the instructions. :/

Yeah, I was just following the instructions I was given via Flipz.
I don't have an SD adapter handy...is there a way to access the SD card while in the phone or am I going to have to get an adapter and go that way?

zhensley said:
Yeah, I was just following the instructions I was given via Flipz.
I don't have an SD adapter handy...is there a way to access the SD card while in the phone or am I going to have to get an adapter and go that way?
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nenn said:
flipz says that you should wipe your sd card for whatever reason. so he was just following the instructions. :/
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I flashed Flipz latest without wiping my SD and got no issues, but if Flipz mentioned that and you followed, I am sorry to hear you have this conflict now. Like I suggested in my previous post, easiest way is to format your SD using an adapter with WIN or MAC, your choice, then download and place Flipz ROM and re-flash.

Kykiskly said:
I flashed Flipz latest without wiping my SD and got no issues, but if Flipz mentioned that and you followed, I am sorry to hear you have this conflict now. Like I suggested in my previous post, easiest way is to format your SD using an adapter with WIN or MAC, your choice, then download and place Flipz ROM and re-flash.
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I was boot looping after the initial install so I looked at Flipz FAQ. He says, "In every case that I've seen, this has been caused by sd:ext not being wiped properly" and then advises to do a complete sd wipe. Anyway, I guess I will have to wait until I can get an adapter. Sheesh.

zhensley said:
I was boot looping after the initial install so I looked at Flipz FAQ. He says, "In every case that I've seen, this has been caused by sd:ext not being wiped properly" and then advises to do a complete sd wipe. Anyway, I guess I will have to wait until I can get an adapter. Sheesh.
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He was talking about the SD card ext2/3/4 partition, not the fat32 partition

mrono said:
He was talking about the SD card ext2/3/4 partition, not the fat32 partition
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Here is the exact quote.
"In every case that I've seen, this has been caused by sd:ext not being wiped properly. Clockwork Recovery isn't doing it right. It appears to but actually errors out. The fastest way to actually wipe it properly would be to reboot in to recovery and re-partition it. This will wipe EVERYTHING off of your sdcard! Do 0/0/Remaining if you want to use apps2sd or 32/1gb/Remaining to use apps2sd. Then wipe everything and re-flash the rom."
It's confusing enough that he said both the 0/0/remaining and 32/1gb/remaining both allow you to use apps2sd...I didn't know there were different levels of repartitioning.

I've discovered that in the recovery menu there is an option that is something like "USB-MS" which basically allows you to access the SD card while in the menu. I threw .5.3 on there and am booting now....Hoping this works.

[Q] how to create partitions for A2SD

Hi,
i am interested in flashing the following ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=861690&highlight=insertcoin
it requires me to have an EXT partition:
A2SD (and yes YOU MUST HAVE an EXT Partiton after the FAT32 one)
can i use ROM manager for this? i haven't used it before so if someone can outline the steps that'd be well appreciated. plus is there anything else i need to do? as you can tell i'm very new to this so i need all the help i can get
p.s: the reason i posted this here and not in the development forum is cos i don't have enough posts to make any comments in the development forum yet.
thanks a lot!

I can't post in the dev forums either. It's an annoying rule isn't it. The other annoying rule is that you can't post URLs either, so sorry I can't give you any links for the stuff below.
I used gParted livecd to partition my sd card.
Steps are:
-Download the iso
-Burn it to the CD (burn as a CD image, not as a regular file)
-Boot up your PC with the CD in
-Answer a few dumb questions about your preferred keyboard etc until the GParted screen comes up
-take the SD card out of your Phone and stick it in your PC
-wait a min or two for GParted to recognize it, then choose you SD card as the drive
-shrink the existing FAT partition to make room for the new ext partition
-create the new ext partition of whatever type your ROM recommends (ext2/3/4) and whatever size you want
-apply the changes
Most guides I've seen say to wipe your SD card first, but I got on just fine with shrinking the existing partition without wiping, then your data is preserved.
There are plenty of gParted tutorials with screenshots.
Just be sure to partition your SD card and not your PC hard drive
from one newbie to another, hope this helps

You can also try your recovery, some of them have partitioning tools built in. I have CWM Alpharev and in the advanced menu, there is an option for partitioning your card.

For the usual A2SD+ Roms out there, partitioning with Recovery works very well.
AmonRA 2.0.1 or ClockWorkMod Recovery should be suitable.

peegee99 said:
I can't post in the dev forums either. It's an annoying rule isn't it. The other annoying rule is that you can't post URLs either, so sorry I can't give you any links for the stuff below.
I used gParted livecd to partition my sd card.
Steps are:
-Download the iso
-Burn it to the CD (burn as a CD image, not as a regular file)
-Boot up your PC with the CD in
-Answer a few dumb questions about your preferred keyboard etc until the GParted screen comes up
-take the SD card out of your Phone and stick it in your PC
-wait a min or two for GParted to recognize it, then choose you SD card as the drive
-shrink the existing FAT partition to make room for the new ext partition
-create the new ext partition of whatever type your ROM recommends (ext2/3/4) and whatever size you want
-apply the changes
Most guides I've seen say to wipe your SD card first, but I got on just fine with shrinking the existing partition without wiping, then your data is preserved.
There are plenty of gParted tutorials with screenshots.
Just be sure to partition your SD card and not your PC hard drive
from one newbie to another, hope this helps
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lol it is annoying. and thanks for the detailed info.

Eyonik said:
For the usual A2SD+ Roms out there, partitioning with Recovery works very well.
AmonRA 2.0.1 or ClockWorkMod Recovery should be suitable.
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so i found the following instructions to partition via ClockworksMod Recovery:
A. backup your sd card to your computer. can't stress this enough, as partitioning will wipe the entire card.
B. Reboot into recovery
c. In android system recovery, select partition sdcard
d. In the partition sdcard menu, select partition sd
e. Follow the instructions on the phone to partition your sd card. You can optionally set a swap file while you are partitioning your sd card.
F. In the partition sdcard menu, select sd:ext2 to ext3. Follow the instructions on the screen.
G. only perform this step if you want ext4 and your rom supports it: in the partition sdcard menu, select sd:ext3 to ext4. Follow the instructions on the sdcard.
h. Press the back button on the phone to go back to the main menu.
I. Put the a2sd file on the sd card (and all your other files you backed up earlier) by selecting usb-ms toggle and transfer the files to your computer.
is the above correct?
furthermore:
1. when i do a backup, whats the backup file called so i can copy it to my pc?
2. i already have a rom with no partition installed. before i create a partition (steps above) should i do a full wipe (cache/partition) and then proceed to the above steps?
thanks!

The above sholud be correct.
1. Backups are located SDcard/Clockworkmod/backup/[date the backup was created]
2. No you, don't need to wipe anything, only if you want to flash a new ROM.

<OT> why would you want to post this in the ROM development forum? This has absolutely nothing to do with ROM development! So why are you complaining? Apparently this seems to be a useful rule... ^^
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Sent from my HTC Desire

Tillus said:
<OT> why would you want to post this in the ROM development forum? This has absolutely nothing to do with ROM development! So why are you complaining? Apparently this seems to be a useful rule... ^^
</OT>
Sent from my HTC Desire
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my questions were specific to the ROM on the development page. i figured if i could have asked it there, people would know exactly what i'm talking about.
and i don't think we said the rule was not useful, just a tad bit annoying : p

nagypapi said:
The above sholud be correct.
1. Backups are located SDcard/Clockworkmod/backup/[date the backup was created]
2. No you, don't need to wipe anything, only if you want to flash a new ROM.
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sorry if i'm being pedantic, but just to clarify (i do want to install a new ROM with a partition) the steps would be:
1. do a full wipe (cache/partition)
2. partition SD
3. install new ROM
does that sound right?
and thanks for previous reply.

you can use custom recovery ver3

green hoodlum said:
sorry if i'm being pedantic, but just to clarify (i do want to install a new ROM with a partition) the steps would be:
1. do a full wipe (cache/partition)
2. partition SD
3. install new ROM
does that sound right?
and thanks for previous reply.
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anybody?
*eagerly awaiting a reply*

You should make a nandroid backup as well as a copy of your SD card. Have you done this? If not, a quick search will give instructions on how to do it, to ensure you can return to where you are now if things don't go right with the new ROM for some reason...
Otherwise, yes. Your steps are correct! Good luck...
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Unable to flash new/seemingly any rom - Any help?

So a while back I rooted my desire, and played about with a few roms, then stuck with cyanogen for quite a while. This is the order of a few actions I took which I think may be where the problem occurred.
So from being rooted with cyanogen 7:
I decided to s-off the phone with alpharev
I then put a new splash screen on
Then decided I wanted a new sd card (I was told by a mate it will just go straight in no problems) So I bought an 8gb card stuck it in put my backed up data on the card and booted, all was fine.
I then thought about trying a few new roms that had appeared, and I tried flashing one only for the phone to hang forever on the splash screen.
I've been trying a few things to try to resolve it, stabbing in the dark, such as running unrevoked3 (maybe to root again, only for it to say the firmware is too new) I made my new sd card a gold card, like I did with the original.
None of these helped. has anyone any ideas or know how to sort this out???

What recovery do you have? Which ROM did hang?

Did you do a full wipe?
Does the rom you want to instal require a ext partition?
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I wiped the cache, and dalvik cache, even did a factory reset in recovery. Im using clockwork recovery.
I tried InsertCoin_GB_Sense2.1_CM7_v20 and Reflex_S_2.0_LITE_GingerBread_Sense-2.1_GRI40_A2SD+
Maybe these need an ext partition? Would that be it? I'm not sure how to set that up yet.

yes those roms need ext partition, don't know about reflex bu have insertcoin myself, 1GB ext4.
1.go to recovery
2.press on partition sd,choose the size, then after it's finished convert it to ext3 in partition sd again below the option of making one, you can make ext4, but thats up to you. ext3 is needed..
Don't forget to backup your sd, you'll lose everything on it

The ROM you mentioned is an a2sd ROM. So yes, you'll need to partition your SD card if you want to use a a2sd rom.
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Thanks for this I will get on it and let you know

I can't find an option in my clockwork to partition the sd. Just been searching a bit and seen it can be done through rom manager, that rebooted the phone and left me with the ! in a triangle and the small droid on the screen and when I press the power button it is in recovery it says installation aborted. Is there a guide for the Desire? I can't seem to find one....
Sorry found a guide on here. Will try to do it now.

Ok so I am really struggling to get anywhere with a few different guides to partition the card. Through rom manager it also says signature failed, although I have tried toggling the permissions. Major

stevoh84 said:
Ok so I am really struggling to get anywhere with a few different guides to partition the card. Through rom manager it also says signature failed, although I have tried toggling the permissions. Major
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Steveoh like i told, do it from recovery(easiest), when you rooted you were able to change the recovery(unrEVOked), do so and change it to Ra recovery
Still if you don't want to this program can help youhttp://www.partitionwizard.com/free-partition-manager.html
Download this and do it from you pc, although it's very easy to do from recovery, takes 5,6 minutes mostly waiting..

I have created a partition with the program you recommenced. How will I know that it is ext 3? And that my phone will use it?
found it!

[Q] Stuck on start HTC screen (start screen)

So i installed http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1040121
i rooted my phone yesterday and today tried install that rom i installed it with
http://theunlockr.com/2010/09/21/how-to-load-a-custom-rom-on-the-htc-desire-2/ guide after install it said it was succesfully installed and i tried reboot it and now i cannot open it normally.
I can go recovery mode by pressing power + volume down
Can some1 help me what should i do?

In most circumstances it is because your sd card is not properly formatted or you have flashed the wrong data table. I think it is probably becuase of the sd card, make sure you format with a fat 32 and a ext4 partition. You can do this very easily with your recovery program or with gparted. If this fails I would flash a simple rooted rom to get the phone up and running and then read the forum. I assure you that is is not as complicated as it all seems

can some1 give me link for guide to format with a fat 32 and a ext4 partition
or simple rooted rom to i can get my phone back to work?

This is a rooted stock rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833310
Download this, put it on your sd card and flash it exactly as you flashed your previous rom, this will get the phone working again. I would then simply download and install Clockwork Mod recovery or 4ext recovery, both these will sort you sd card out. You simply want a fat32 with a 1gb ext 3 partition. Once this has been done you can then look at installing more complex roms.
If you get stuck lt me know and I will try and help, I was in the same place a year ago!!!!

Sorry, use this rooted rom as the other link requires sd ext
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741775

everything u need is in this thread, videos too (ext4 with Gparted, see Step 5)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084

denatwork said:
everything u need is in this thread, videos too (ext4 with Gparted, see Step 5)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
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how that will help when i cannot even open my phone exept recovery mode

tonil92 said:
how that will help when i cannot even open my phone exept recovery mode
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.... because you're partitioning your SD-CARD.. and as far as I know that can be taken out of the phone no?
you can use gparted or minitool partition wizard (google the names). Most ROMs require a minimum of 512mb EXT Partition but 1GB is advisable. EXT3 is preferable, as the faster EXT4 is not compatible with all ROMS

u've asked for the link... i'gave u the link...
use a cardreader and boot not from ur smart, but from usb and do the same steps as in video described