Moving from T-mo to ATT, ATT Gnexus users pls offer suggestions? - Samsung Galaxy Nexus

Hi fellow nexus users, I have a UK handset that I got from handtec I've been using on tmobile for the past couple weeks and I really enjoy it.
However my family wants to move our plan to ATT asap for various reasons.
Is there anything I should know? We all have unlocked phones (and nobody but me cares about 3g/4g) so I want to go month to month, I don't want to get into a contract.
Any plans that you guys think are good, and will work well with the galaxy nexus?
We're lookin for about a 1000 minutes shared between the 4 of us, data plans on all phones, no texting (We all use google talk or bbm).

I just did the same thing. Switched from Tmo to ATT
Im on the 450min plan with unlimited messaging. Unlimited messaging gives you unlimited mobile to mobile minutes for any cell phone on any network. I rarely if ever call landlines so this plan works for me - all my calling is free and i barely dent the 450 min allotted for other calls.
Im also on the 2GB dataplan. ATT does not reject the IMEI in the GN: they just add a generic smartphone data plan to your phone. If you want a "4G" plan you need to have the ATT rep input the IMEI of a 4G phone such as the Atrix. With the non 4G plan in Miami Im getting around 3down and 1up pretty consistently whereas on TMo i was getting 3-4up and .8-1 down (only outside, never indoors).
If you bring your device in to the store you can sign up for service and not be on a contract. They only bind you if you get a subsidized phone. I am currently contract free. As an added benefit, I no longer drop coverage walking into buildings and ATT doesnt have the MMS bug that TMo does.

Wondering why would you ever switch from T-Mobile to AT&T if you're in a metro area. T-Mobile has much cheaper plans, better data speeds, and full duplex voice.
I'm not sure if you guys did the right thing, but good luck.

milan03 said:
Wondering why would you ever switch from T-Mobile to AT&T if you're in a metro area. T-Mobile has much cheaper plans, better data speeds, and full duplex voice.
I'm not sure if you guys did the right thing, but good luck.
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T-Mobile does have cheaper plans but does not always have better data speeds (location dependant). It's really hit or miss speed wise in Chicago. Both networks get bogged down by congestion. Recently I haven't seen large deviations in speed in Chicago, Charlotte, Newark, Atlanta or Denver, but YMMV.
I see almost identical data speeds usually between the two carriers with AT&T being a bit more consistent and T-Mobile peaking a little higher but overall being less consistent.
There are instances where T-Mobile's backhaul / lesser congestion has helped. Atlantic City saw around 7mbps with T-Mobile and only 3 mbps on AT&T at the airport but T-Mobile also had some nasty dead spots and tower issues there that caused AT&T to be a more effective option outside of the airport. I was stuck on a 3G connection that was slower than Edge (I literally forced the phone into Edge so that the data connection was usable).
The *much* bigger advantage that AT&T can offer is using the 850 Mhz spectrum over T-Mobile's 1700/2100 combo for 3G/4G. 850 penetrates building much better. With T-Mobile I'd often drop to edge inside of buildings whereas I'll stay on 3G/4G (HSPA) with AT&T. AT&T does not utilize 850 everywhere, but where they do the signal penetration is much appreciated.

krohnjw said:
T-Mobile does have cheaper plans but does not always have better data speeds (location dependant). It's really hit or miss speed wise in Chicago. Both networks get bogged down by congestion. Recently I haven't seen large deviations in speed in Chicago, Charlotte, Newark, Atlanta or Denver, but YMMV.
I see almost identical data speeds usually between the two carriers with AT&T being a bit more consistent and T-Mobile peaking a little higher but overall being less consistent.
There are instances where T-Mobile's backhaul / lesser congestion has helped. Atlantic City saw around 7mbps with T-Mobile and only 3 mbps on AT&T at the airport but T-Mobile also had some nasty dead spots and tower issues there that caused AT&T to be a more effective option outside of the airport. I was stuck on a 3G connection that was slower than Edge (I literally forced the phone into Edge so that the data connection was usable).
The *much* bigger advantage that AT&T can offer is using the 850 Mhz spectrum over T-Mobile's 1700/2100 combo for 3G/4G. 850 penetrates building much better. With T-Mobile I'd often drop to edge inside of buildings whereas I'll stay on 3G/4G (HSPA) with AT&T. AT&T does not utilize 850 everywhere, but where they do the signal penetration is much appreciated.
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I agree 100%. I could get faster speed tests with TMo standing outside - Inside buildings I can barely break 2mbps down. I get much more consistant results with ATT everywhere. The cost didn't seem worth the lesser service.
I drop from full bars coverage to 1 bar EDGE / no service the minute i walk into my one story office building at work. At my desk I often miss messages (i get them later than I need to) and cant make calls. With full 3G signal I type in a website and it takes a while to start loading, in comparison ATT is almost instant
Maybe theoretically TMo is a good deal but in South Florida I get much much better service with ATT. I've switched between them a few times (whenever I see a phone I like) and Im sure I made the right decision.

Does anyone know of any official plans by att to offer the GN subsidized? I know that if anyone actually knew anything, it would be reposted everywhere, but even a glimmer of hope will be welcome.

In NYC metro area T-Mobile is running circles around AT&T's network in terms of data speeds, latency and especially voice quality. I've seen speeds approaching 30mbps on T-Mobile's 42mbps DC-HSPA handsets and 18mpbs on my GN using $30 PrePaid plan.
AT&T crawls down to EDGE speeds and sometimes time outs during the peak hours when the data becomes unusable. Dropped calls are day to day reality, and I've grown accustomed to that and never ever make important calls using AT&T's network. Plus the plans are almost twice as high. Not recommended.

What is the $30 prepaid plan you use? How many minutes do you get with that?

kinggheedora said:
What is the $30 prepaid plan you use? How many minutes do you get with that?
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100 minutes, unlimited data (5GB of 4G speeds then lowered to EDGE), unlimited texting, pre paid no commitment. It's honestly my dream plan.

milan03 said:
100 minutes, unlimited data (5GB of 4G speeds then lowered to EDGE), unlimited texting, pre paid no commitment. It's honestly my dream plan.
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Could you link me to this plan?
What do you mean by "Full Duplex Voice" on T-Mo vs ATT

milan03 said:
100 minutes, unlimited data (5GB of 4G speeds then lowered to EDGE), unlimited texting, pre paid no commitment. It's honestly my dream plan.
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Yeah it's the ONLY reason I was willing to buy an unlocked Nexus and go T-mobile, was going to wait for VZ.
I came from Virgin Mobile's 300min version, I would call the t-mobile plan perfect if it was 200 minute, but it's still an insane deal.
As is, I'm using groove IP to make calls out when I'm in wifi in order to save minutes in case I'm out and I need to use my voice minutes.
But $30 for 5GB of H+ is just awesome sauce!

http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-plans
I'm on $30 plan myself. At home I use GrooveIP on wifi for VOIP and no minutes used (technically only needing minutes outside of my place).
Saving HUNDREDS of dollars a year is worth it over the slightly slower speeds I get on Tmo over ATT. Also helps pay for the price of the GN easily.
Plus I'm using a company that is much more customer-friendly. Lower plan prices when off contract are something to be supported.

I just wish T-Mobile had International Data plans. I travel to Europe once a month, and $15/mb for international data roaming insane when you can buy 125mb international data plan from AT&T for $50/mo.

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What do you mean by "Full Duplex Voice" on T-Mo vs ATT
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It has to do with how the receive (RX) and transmission (TX) audio are handled. You can either have both RX and TX on 100% of the time or they can be multiplexed into one channel to save bandwidth. It's a misnomer because half-duplex usually means something like this:
Caller1: Hello. Over.
Caller2: Hello. Over.
Caller1: What are...(interrupted)
Caller2: Are you... oh, sorry... Go ahead.
Caller1: What?
Caller2: Huh? Oh. Go ahead! Over.
Caller1: I hate this AT&T half-duplex CB radio crap! When will they get full-duplex??? Over.
Caller2: Can you repeat that? Over.
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ksujace said:
I just wish T-Mobile had International Data plans. I travel to Europe once a month, and $15/mb for international data roaming insane when you can buy 125mb international data plan from AT&T for $50/mo.
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If you're there that often, I'd suggest a prepaid SIM. It's not as if AT&T international data plans are economical. I racked up close to $400 of roaming last month for a two week trip to London. All expensed, so no biggie. But it's still pants down, no lube.

ianwood said:
If you're there that often, I'd suggest a prepaid SIM. It's not as if AT&T international data plans are economical. I racked up close to $400 of roaming last month for a two week trip to London. All expensed, so no biggie. But it's still pants down, no lube.
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I'm in the same boat , all expensed , so don't really care. I don't like having multiple phone #'s when over there. (travel to Switzerland 1 week every month)

tmobile is awesome if i stay outside or never travel. But then, so is cricket.

milan03 said:
100 minutes, unlimited data (5GB of 4G speeds then lowered to EDGE), unlimited texting, pre paid no commitment. It's honestly my dream plan.
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Do you have any idea on how bad AT&T throttles speeds on their unlimited data plan?

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AT&T HSPA 7.2 Rolling out behind T-Mobile

It was only yesterday that we reported T-Mobile’s completion of their nationwide 7.2 Mbps HSPA network upgrade, and now, perhaps feeling a bit left out, AT&T has announced that it has completed a milestone on its way to 7.2 Mbps HSPA. AT&T finished an update to the software run by its 3.6 Mbps cellular towers that will allow them to push out more of those sweet, sweet Mbp’s “soon.” The next, and perhaps most important steps, are backhaul upgrades to the AT&T network so when your 7.2 Mbps capable cell phone asks for screaming fast data you get it. Said upgrades have already been completed in Charlotte, Chicago, Dallas, Houston, Los Angeles, and Miami, and AT&T is beginning to flip the switch “on” in these areas. The rest of us are going to have to wait, as the backhaul upgrades are set to continue through 2011.
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AT&T 7.2
Here we go hopefully i can take advantage of this since im in LA
Between this and the fact that T-Mobile is getting both the Leo and already indirectly has the Nexus One, it's hard for me to justify keeping AT&T when my contract is up.
So are they upgrading their backend links as well? Right now with 3.6Mbps I'm still maybe getting 700Kbps speeds with full bars...
Toleraen said:
So are they upgrading their backend links as well? Right now with 3.6Mbps I'm still maybe getting 700Kbps speeds with full bars...
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To support the increased bandwidth of HSPA, AT&T also has to add thousands of new cell site backhaul connections - and that's going to take "a couple of years"...so to top it all of that will overlap with there LTE (4g) upgrade plans...
In other words - just a bunch of AT&T bullsh_t.
Yeah basically AT&T rushed to get this story out to make it seem like they still have hold of the fastest 3G network in the country, the problem is, they have the tower antennas up for 7.2 3G, but they don't have the wiring from those towers all set.
It's a big fat joke!
When my contract is up, I can bring my $90 a month three phone 1400-minute plan with $30 data to T-mobile's $65 a month three phone 1500-minute Even More Plus plan with $10 data. Yeah, why would I stay with AT&T?
Six months to go...
How well do AT&T phones work on TMO? Are there unsupported 3G frequencies I'll lose using the Tilt 2 on TMO? Can I transfer paid wireless insurance (since all carriers use Asurion anyway)?
Switching from Verizon to ATT was the biggest mistake of my life, reception-wise.
I was paying $240 for 2 lines with Verizon.
I joined a Business plan for these 2 lines, and my bill is now $160 a month. So I'm saving a considerable amount of money.
But good god the reception is HORRIFIC in Los Angeles. I get at least 1 dropped call per day, and much crappier reception all over. I miss Verizon's network quality so much.

T mobile sucks.

My AT&T contract is about to expire. I thought I would give a TMO monthly 4g a shot. I've driven 700 miles in the last 2 days along I-40, data coverage is non existent.
GNEX stays on G and sometimes R.
Any secret APN settings I need to know about?
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My weekly commute between Austin and Houston is same - almost non-existent data coverage. Once in a major population area, then everything's good.
Too bad at&t break-up fees mostly went to DT, otherwise TMo could really use it to shore up the data coverage.
It would help if you stated where you lived or travel to so people within the same city could provide you a basis of comparison.
Oh man this reminds me of the days I was on Tmo. Its best to just sign back on with At&T or get VZW
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Tmo is really good if you're within their HSPA+ areas...but you can't beat $30 a month with unlimited text and Web (1st 5gb @ 4G) and 100 mins.
babymatteo said:
Tmo is really good if you're within their HSPA+ areas...but you can't beat $30 a month with unlimited text and Web (1st 5gb @ 4G) and 100 mins.
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Exactly. You need to be in a decent size city in order to utilize TMobile. Anywhere outside it's a hit or miss, more likely a miss.
Let's see, you're comparing a PREPAID (no roaming) vs a POSTPAID (roaming).
Of course it's not going to go well if you're travelling down highways in middle of nowhere.
I love tmobile - choose your carrier dependent on your needs. Check a coverage map before signing up.
wonshikee said:
Let's see, you're comparing a PREPAID (no roaming) vs a POSTPAID (roaming).
Of course it's not going to go well if you're travelling down highways in middle of nowhere.
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Bingo. You don't get to roam on AT&T like their Postpaid plans. You kinda had to know what you're getting into with Prepaid.
T-Mo is great in cities, but you're kidding yourself if you think you're gonna get HSPA+ (or even UMTS) on a freeway between cities. Just not how their coverage is.
You could look at Straight Talk, which is an AT&T MVNO. You could probably get a bit better coverage with that. Still doesn't roam but AT&T's footprint is probably better.
It all depends on where you're usually at. For the particular areas in So Cal where I typically travel, live, and work, AT&T is by far the worst of the carriers I've had (T-Mo, Verizon, ATT).
OK, I'll be a little more specific. I took a trip from Little Rock, AR to Knoxville, TN. I traveled along a major Interstate, Interstate 40. I recall seeing "4G", for a reasonable amount of time (maybe 2 minutes worth), in Nashville. I say that's reasonable because I drove through Memphis so quick I guess my phone never had a chance to find "4G" data service.
I spent the entire trip swapping out sim cards, mainly using the TMO. When I would become frustrated with the TMO service, mostly on "G", I would pop in my AT&T sim. Instant "4G" service. One second TMO "G", the next AT&T "4G". Not really sure how this is possible. They both charge about the same for their service, but their service is not the same.
I paid $60 for TMO unlimited talk, text, and data. Only later to find that, with those whopping 46 kilobytes per second download speeds, when I was lucky enough to get data, I would never even get close to my metering limit of 2 gigs. With those speeds I would be lucky to even use up 1 meg of data.
How can they charge so much for their "Nations largest 4G network"?
WHAT A JOKE.
I thought AT&T was ripping me off with their prices. I know feel like I have the greatest network provider on earth.
I did call the StraighTalkSIM folks to ask about data speeds. They were kind enough to let know that the fastest speeds I would see would be equivalent to AT&T's "3G". I can live with that for a cell phone bill that would be about 40% of what I pay now. I'll probably give them a try.
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OK, I'll be a little more specific. I took a trip from Little Rock, AR to Knoxville, TN. I traveled along a major Interstate, Interstate 40. I recall seeing "4G", for a reasonable amount of time (maybe 2 minutes worth), in Nashville. I say that's reasonable because I drove through Memphis so quick I guess my phone never had a chance to find "4G" data service.
I spent the entire trip swapping out sim cards, mainly using the TMO. When I would become frustrated with the TMO service, mostly on "G", I would pop in my AT&T sim. Instant "4G" service. One second TMO "G", the next AT&T "4G". Not really sure how this is possible. They both charge about the same for their service, but their service is not the same.
I paid $60 for TMO unlimited talk, text, and data. Only later to find that, with those whopping 46 kilobytes per second download speeds, when I was lucky enough to get data, I would never even get close to my metering limit of 2 gigs. With those speeds I would be lucky to even use up 1 meg of data.
How can they charge so much for their "Nations largest 4G network"?
WHAT A JOKE.
I thought AT&T was ripping me off with their prices. I know feel like I have the greatest network provider on earth.
I did call the StraighTalkSIM folks to ask about data speeds. They were kind enough to let know that the fastest speeds I would see would be equivalent to AT&T's "3G". I can live with that for a cell phone bill that would be about 40% of what I pay now. I'll probably give them a try.
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Sorry that T-Mobile Prepaid doesn't have service in your area (no roaming + leave the city = no service)...
Try Straight Talk because it uses AT&T. You still don't get roaming though, so the footprint is smaller than the actual AT&T coverage map. You'll get full HSPA+ speeds where available with Straight Talk.

from iphone 4 at&t to S3. at&t unlimited or verizon shared?

So after have a iphone 3g and iphone 4 for last 4 years I am pretty sick of having basically the same thing for 4 years other than my 4 has a better processor and screen compared to 3G. So I'm looking to get out of the iphone and my contract just ended on saturday.
I have been looking and considering getting the S3 but I am very conflicted at the moment. I live in Charlotte NC and both at&t 4g lte and verizon's 4g lte are offered in Charlotte but verizon's lte coverage just smacks at&t's lte coverage(especially in the southeast u.s.).
As of right now I still have unlimited with at&t but just do to the vastness of verizon's lte coverage I have been wanting to switch for sometime and especially since my wife has a Razr on verizon lte I've been blown away by it compared to at&t normal 3g speeds of course.
I do travel with work so the coverage is important but basically I'm not sure if it's worth giving up my unlimited data with extreme lack of lte but great amount of hspa+ for verizon's lte.
and yes I see the reports on the locked bootloader from verizon... which has me thinking maybe I should just wait on this leaked and possible Razr HD or just say screw you verizon.
I don't know. I'm confused
At&t's "Unlimited" is not unlimited for LTE. You only get 5GB per month. I know that's a lot of data, but you'd be surprised how fast that gets used up, AND you will get throttled after that until you next billing cycle. So you may need to take that into consideration.
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At&t's "Unlimited" is not unlimited for LTE. You only get 5GB per month. I know that's a lot of data, but you'd be surprised how fast that gets used up, AND you will get throttled after that until you next billing cycle. So you may need to take that into consideration.
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oh my i have not discovered that fact yet. wow. that kinda defeats purpose of unlimited then
Descadent said:
oh my i have not discovered that fact yet. wow. that kinda defeats purpose of unlimited then
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Additionally, once you're 1mb over your limit, you get charged another fee [whatever rate your plan is] for that month again.
teh roxxorz said:
Additionally, once you're 1mb over your limit, you get charged another fee [whatever rate your plan is] for that month again.
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this i don't see not even on their website saying anything about additional charges
http :// www .att. com/ esupport/ datausage.jsp?source=IZDUel1160000000U
anyone have any opinions further on what I should do?
teh roxxorz said:
Additionally, once you're 1mb over your limit, you get charged another fee [whatever rate your plan is] for that month again.
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Not exactly, there are differences.
On a grandfathered unlimited plan you get up to 5GB of data with an LTE device, 3GB on a non-LTE device. After 5GB (or 3GB) you will be throttled till your next billing cycle. As low as 160k with my past experiences of being throttled, which is useless.
On a tiered plan 3GB ($30) or 5GB ($50) you will get billed an extra $10 per GB you go over until your bill cycle ends. You do not get throttled on this plan, you just pay the overage. Its set up differently than the unlimited plan.
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At&t's "Unlimited" is not unlimited for LTE. You only get 5GB per month. I know that's a lot of data, but you'd be surprised how fast that gets used up, AND you will get throttled after that until you next billing cycle. So you may need to take that into consideration.
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was on iPhone 4..i still have my grandfather unlimited* been throttled once on 3G was bad speeds... hows is when on throttle 4G LTE ? edge like speeds? thats how it was on my i4 on 3G.. i know ill hit it again but never on LTE yet
the debate for me really is att lte vs. verizon lte as a att 5g throttlecap will be there with my unlimited or switch to verizon and get 4gb or 6gb shared. either way neither are truly unlimited. Yea att may still be unlimited but just google searching and seeing throttling results around 16k... it's like wow... useless..what works at 16k dl??? what do i choose? 5gb throttle cap or verizon 4 or 6gb cap, and that's before we get into the fact verizon is locked.
Descadent said:
So after have a iphone 3g and iphone 4 for last 4 years I am pretty sick of having basically the same thing for 4 years other than my 4 has a better processor and screen compared to 3G. So I'm looking to get out of the iphone and my contract just ended on saturday.
I have been looking and considering getting the S3 but I am very conflicted at the moment. I live in Charlotte NC and both at&t 4g lte and verizon's 4g lte are offered in Charlotte but verizon's lte coverage just smacks at&t's lte coverage(especially in the southeast u.s.).
EXCELLENT CHOICE FOR YOUR 1ST ANDROID DEVICE. I CAME FROM THE 4S AND WILL NEVER GO BACK. IF YOU SAY THE COVERAGE IS BETTER WITH VERIZON I'D GIVE THEM THE EDGE HERE.
As of right now I still have unlimited with at&t but just do to the vastness of verizon's lte coverage I have been wanting to switch for sometime and especially since my wife has a Razr on verizon lte I've been blown away by it compared to at&t normal 3g speeds of course.
"WHEN" YOU GET YOUR S3, YOU CAN BLOW YOUR WIFES RAZR AWAY. :laugh:
I do travel with work so the coverage is important but basically I'm not sure if it's worth giving up my unlimited data with extreme lack of lte but great amount of hspa+ for verizon's lte.
and yes I see the reports on the locked bootloader from verizon... which has me thinking maybe I should just wait on this leaked and possible Razr HD or just say screw you verizon.
YOU'VE KINDA ANSWERED YOUR OWN QUESTIONS. EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT. I have the S3 on att in vegas, and I get 20-25MBs on LTE. I've just had to change my data habits and use wifi as much as possible (@work and @home). I stay under 3GB per month so I'm happy.
I don't know. I'm confused
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markysd said:
was on iPhone 4..i still have my grandfather unlimited* been throttled once on 3G was bad speeds... hows is when on throttle 4G LTE ? edge like speeds? thats how it was on my i4 on 3G.. i know ill hit it again but never on LTE yet
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Well I got the Skyrocket about 6 months ago, my first LTE device. I had unlimited but at the time I was getting throttled at 2GB. That was a week into my billing cycle. The Skyrocket threads were blowing up with throttling and how to bypass it. There was a minor fix, being able to switch to an older APN, but we only got HSPA speeds, 1-1.5MBs. I couldn't take it anymore and gave in to AT&T and switched to a 5GB tiered plan. A couple months after that, there was a lawsuit against AT&T and the people won, so AT&T switched their policy and gave unlimited users 5GB for the same $30. Needless to say I wasn't allowed to switch back to my unlimited so I got screwed due to my impatience. When I got throttled i was getting about 160k. It was useless and my phone was unusable for internet, that's why I switched.
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Well I got the Skyrocket about 6 months ago, my first LTE device. I had unlimited but at the time I was getting throttled at 2GB. That was a week into my billing cycle. The Skyrocket threads were blowing up with throttling and how to bypass it. There was a minor fix, being able to switch to an older APN, but we only got HSPA speeds, 1-1.5MBs. I couldn't take it anymore and gave in to AT&T and switched to a 5GB tiered plan. A couple months after that, there was a lawsuit against AT&T and the people won, so AT&T switched their policy and gave unlimited users 5GB for the same $30. Needless to say I wasn't allowed to switch back to my unlimited so I got screwed due to my impatience. When I got throttled i was getting about 160k. It was useless and my phone was unusable for internet, that's why I switched.
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thanks for that info..ill see what happen when i hit my 5GB cap..sucks what AT&T do to loyal customers...when i got throttle on my iphone 4 3G it was not all the time i get slow speeds just depends on day/hour of day when cell towers are not hammered.. sucks that you dont have the unlimited data 30$ on 5GB sorry bout that.. AT&T just trying to squeeze every penny out to customers..dont like AT&T data plan prices 250mb wtf is that? 5 HD clips on youtube... unlimited data is why im still on AT&T 30$ is good if your still on grandfather.. but all companies are similar now no such thing of unlimited data even they say unlimited data with a (*) i knew this day was going to come when i had the iPhone 3Gs data was so more used then text/voice call.. i can live with DATA only.. i use data for VOIP/MSGing/text via APP..ok im dont with my rant:silly:
it will never be as it used to be because some select people abused the network and att and verizon went...hey we can charge for that!
I'd say stick with AT&T. They have the better network. Their H+ "4G" is more than enough to do anything and they are deploying that across the nation as well as their LTE network. H+ averages 5-8 megs for me. Basically their fall back network is loads better than Verizon's cdma network. Not sure who has the faster lte speeds but Verizon's got more markets when it comes to lte. However they have had nation wide LTE outages where I don't think AT&T has yet. I think we can all agree AT&T has worst customer service though. Hope this helps.
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yeah. i've gone over this in my head over and over but i still can't decide what's best option...
As far as throttling goes for AT&T unlimited users supposedly gets throttled at 5 gigs of data. Biggest AT&T data plan is 5 gigs for 50 bucks. I'd say stick with unlimited (which is 30 I believe).
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As far as throttling goes for AT&T unlimited users supposedly gets throttled at 5 gigs of data. Biggest AT&T data plan is 5 gigs for 50 bucks. I'd say stick with unlimited (which is 30 I believe).
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I'll second that, I have heard no good stories about Verizon recently.
same situation to me, need make an decision between att ultimate vs Verizon share data

Tampa/St Petersburg T mobile users

I'm in Tampa/St Pete area and just finished my contract with Sprint. Sprint LTE is actually decent here except that LTE doesn't work too well indoor and the 3G speed is simply horrific. When LTE works, it is anywhere from 3 to 25 Mbps, but 3G is like 98k to 1200kbps with 100-300 kbps being the norm.
I have the Note 2 and thinking of jumping over to T Mobile and buying the Note 3. I don't see a lot of LTE coverage using Sensorly so I was wondeirng how good is the 3G especially the HSPA+. What speed are you getting most of the time? Is there a lot of really bad spots or is the coverage pretty uniform? If not for the paltry 3G speed, I would not be leaving Sprint.
I did the math and with a family plan that is essentially unlimited, I am paying $52/line with Sprint but you have to remember that the phone is subsidized. Taking the $400 subsidy and average that over 2 years, we are basically getting $17/month per line. So our net cost is about $35 per line(tax included) for unlimited everything.
If we all jump over to T-Mobile(4 lines), I will be looking at the $100 + $40( for four 2.5GB(that is the average amount of data we use on Sprint). With tax, it is looking like $170/4 = $42.50/month per line.
I don't mind paying the extra $7.50 x 4 since I prefer the flexibility of a GSM phone. I'm thinking if the coverage is bad, I can always jump to a throttle AIO wireless once they have a family plan. The nail in the coffin is that the Note 3 on Sprint is a uniband LTE phone and not dual band like the T Mobile one.
So how good and consistent is T Mobile 3G/HSPA+ coverage in this area. Sensorly shows that 4G LTE is just being built around here. It is essentially already built out with Sprint.
I'm in the Tampa a lot. Rarely go out to St. Pete. I get at least LTE/HSPA+ when I'm in Tampa. Now, in certain buildings sometimes I get Edge, but we know T-Mobile doesn't have the frequencies that can penetrate buildings well. I haven't had much issues.
According to OpenSignal, T-Mobile and AT&T have almost the same amount of 4G coverage.
Does T Mobile have the 14 days return policy now that there plan is no contract?

[Q] Pros and Cons of switching to T-Mobile, What are they?

I'm on Verizon's unlimited grandfather plan.
Nationwide Talk Unlimited $69.99 I actually use 1200 min / month
Email & Web Unlimited $29.99 I actually use 40 GB/ Month most of the time.
Total Equipment Coverage - Asurion $8.00
After taxes I pay $121.51 and I don't use Text messaging. I have no complaint about Verizon's service. Except my Note 4 is locked down.
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In tmobile 4 lines for $100 that includes 2.5gb each and $30 extra each line for unlimited 4g data.
And verizon note 4 is actually unlocked and tmobile is locked.
U can use verizon note 4 on tmobile only problem is doesn't work on lte only on hspa with speeds 6mb down and 2.5mb down (that's what i get) or u can root ur phone and unlock the band 4 and use lte but it will trip knox and void warr8.
The verizon works on tmobile and I get lte here in Massachusetts . Not sure what band t-mobile uses in my area , but I have had no issues using it on verizon note 4.
Where I live you would definitely keep Verizon. I'm in Roanoke, Va. and its very rural once you leave the city. T-mobile blows away Verizon's LTE in the city but once you just barely leave the city you go to no service or edge data. I guess it just depends on where you live or how much you travel but I would keep Verizon.
pro/con:
cheaper (at least it would be for myself)
no bull**** over hotspot; tmobile includes it with all plans
throttle data after using allotment (no overcharge )
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con:
some people say reception is worse (don't know never used it)
some people say reception inside is worse due to higher frequency (both data and celluar) don't know never used it
some people say gsm can be a lot worse for voice (don't know I've always used cdma but people who call me on iphone at&t always sound very poor (broken up speech; though with the note 4 it is not nearly as bad as it was with the note 2 - not sure why)
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I've never used t-mobile but been very tempted to switch to not deal with the hotspot bull**** (verizon actually SPENDS money to block samsung/google built in hotspot). Then again my plan on verizon is pretty cheap and it works and their customer support people have been very nice so 'cept for hotspot i have no reason to switch (I do not have an unlimited plan).
If you're using 40 gb a month on a grandfathered unlimited you're pretty much stuck. If you want that much 4g on T-Mobile it's going to cost a lot. If you don't care about speed, T-Mobile gives you unlimited 2g data after you use up your plan's 4g allocation
Cons. No good reception. Period. My brother has T-Mobile, Note 4 too. His 4G is a joke. I leave by the beach in south Florida, so as soon as he gets near my house, he loses data...
Its not just the fact that you will have no service, its that T-Mobile has admitted multiple times that they have no plans for rural coverage expansion for the future.
Source- I have reached out to the Office of the President John legere 3 seperate times and all 3 times I was told,
"we have no future plans to expand service in your area"
So unless you live in a bubble somewhere in the city your beat.
asjassar said:
In tmobile 4 lines for $100 that includes 2.5gb each and $30 extra each line for unlimited 4g data.
And verizon note 4 is actually unlocked and tmobile is locked.
U can use verizon note 4 on tmobile only problem is doesn't work on lte only on hspa with speeds 6mb down and 2.5mb down (that's what i get) or u can root ur phone and unlock the band 4 and use lte but it will trip knox and void warr8.
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When you said your phone, is it the Note 3 or 4? Because my vzw Note 4 works out of the box with tmo LTE and I get over 60Mbps download right now. I use both networks. Tmo works fine if you live in the major cities where they have good LTE coverages. In the small towns, you better stick with vzw.
Being a tmo customer for the last 10 years, their network has improved a lot. Most of my friends have switched to tmobile because their home and work now have better coverages and you can't beat $100/4 line with no overages.
My grandfather plan has unlimited minutes for 3 lines with unlimited LTE, sms, jump and insurance for 1 line and I'm paying around $95.
Things have changed now with the Verizon.....
doctor-cool said:
I'm on Verizon's unlimited grandfather plan.
Nationwide Talk Unlimited $69.99 I actually use 1200 min / month
Email & Web Unlimited $29.99 I actually use 40 GB/ Month most of the time.
Total Equipment Coverage - Asurion $8.00
After taxes I pay $121.51 and I don't use Text messaging. I have no complaint about Verizon's service. Except my Note 4 is locked down.
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Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Developer Edition http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...izon-galaxy-note-4-developer-edition-t2914717 We now have Team Win Recovery and Root on the Verizon Network with the Note 4 Developer Edition
Just switched from T-Mobile here in San Antonio:
Better call quality everywhere.
Slower LTE speeds in town.
NO signal out of town. I travel a bit and I noticed that TMobile is great as long as you are not going anywhere. If you travel outside of any major city, you will be lucky to send a text message. My phone was completely inoperable outside of the city limits here.
robbyr said:
Just switched from T-Mobile here in San Antonio:
Better call quality everywhere.
Slower LTE speeds in town.
NO signal out of town. I travel a bit and I noticed that TMobile is great as long as you are not going anywhere. If you travel outside of any major city, you will be lucky to send a text message. My phone was completely inoperable outside of the city limits here.
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Did you use a Verizon Note 4 ? I can't seem to get AWS (UMTS band IV) to work on my phone. Is there any where I can unlock the band IV? NOT THE LTE ONE but the 3G/4G.

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