--== Nexpresso 4G ==--
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**THE GOODS**
-ported from the T-Mobile Mytouch 4G
-android 2.3.4
-some T-Mobile apps (Myfaves, Media Gallery, etc..)
-Matr1x cfs 11.5
-Really smooth and responsive
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WORKING NOT WORKING LIST
working-
-calls
-data
-sms
-most things
not working currently
-wifi
-cams
-usb mount
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CHANGELOG
v1.0 (12/14/2011)
-alpha release
v2.0 (12/16/2011) - WIPE DATA/FACTORY RESET - BIG UPDATE
-fixed data
-cleaned up system
-updated from 2.3.3 to 2.3.4
-fixed root permissions
-more tmobile themes/apps
-much more stable, out of alpha
v2.5 (12/17/2011) -WIPE REQUIRED, SYSTEM CHANGED ALOT
-fixed gps
-dropped rom size 35 mb, removed unusable tmo apps
-updated boot.img, added Matr1x 11.5 cfs
-added nstools apk
-fixed 3g icon (doesnt show evdo anymore)
-system much more responsive
-added ICS screen transitions
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DOWNLOAD
Nexpresso 4G v1.0
Nexpresso 4G v2.0
Nexpresso 4G v2.5
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ADDONS IN SECOND POST
SCREENSHOTS IN THIRD POST
CREDITS
-xda members for being AWESOME
-htc, you make me miss my evo
-resetreflectt for the name !
-mobile_sensei for the nexpresso logo and wallpapers !
Addons
gotta fill some space while remodeling
Screenshots
View attachment 818060
Some awesome Nexpresso wallpapers done by mobile_sensei !
mobile_sensei said:
just posted 22 new wallpapers in the theme section that i made just for this rom :
* here *
preview :
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Oh SNAP! Can't wait!!
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RSVP
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Loved motoblur most likely will like this one also
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Thanks swap!
Whoa. Awesomeness.
Follow the leader @corythug
Awesome dude. Can't wait to play with this.
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Dude awesome!! If u do a great job like the motoblur ROM this is gonna be a daily for me. Can't wait
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Mmmmm mt4g... well look forward.
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I'm so god damn happy I left the Epic for this phone. The dev community here is amazing. I missed getting constant Ports just like I did back with the original Evo.
I will for sure be playing around with this.
Wow yu sure stay busy thank yu swamp goblin
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Sorry I just got a new snowboard so I had to shred it up a bit
And yeah I miss all my evo ports so I decided to bring some to the ns4g community, this port is fun I promise to get you guys something to play with when I get home
its pretty much going be a htc sense experience...sweet
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You rock, man! Can't wait.
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Way to go!! Thanks for bringing all the ports!!
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NS4G is getting do much love lately!
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alright im home, just some quick little edits and i will upload it
at the moment, data connectivity shows, but doesnt actually work. before i upload i am going to try to fix this..
ohh and i need someone to come up with a clever name, kinda like how the motoblur was named nexusblur.. hahaha im stumped
Sweet! maybe the same fixes can be used to patch up NexusSense also
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Screenshots are from the EVO 3D, need some nice screen shots from the NS4G once flashed
NOTE: OK guys, I don't like to work blind but i decided to make this because we had a few requests for this rom , I do not have a Nexus S 4G so i need some testers to let me know if it flashes, boots, works ect. I used a 100% stock rom as the base so wimax and all the standard stuff should work fine.
Xplod XE Alpha
The Goods
Code:
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-Sony Xperia Software
-Sony PSP Live wallpapers
-TimeScape widgets
-[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRAVIA"]Sony Bravia Engine[/URL]
-Custom Sony Xperia GUI by Team-Nocturnal
-Sleek System Transitions
-ICS Style Keyboard
-Swype beta
-Updated Market
-Titanium Backup
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Coming Soon
Code:
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-4 in 1 reboot
-CRT on/off animation
-Optimize the apk's
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Whats not working
Code:
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-Some Widgets
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Things to do
Code:
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-Finish updating the UI
-Reduce memory usage
-Make this rom lag free
-Anything else? Let me know
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Changelog
Code:
[COLOR="#FF0000"]Updated Changelog On Team-Nocturnal.com[/COLOR]
How to Flash
Code:
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-Wipe System
-Wipe Data
-Clear Battery Stats
-Wipe Dalvik/cache
-Flash rom
-Boot and setup accounts
-Reboot rom for widgets to apply.
-Enjoy!
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Download Xplod XE
Video Review
How to flash and video review can be found here
http://team-nocturnal.com/forums/sh...Xperia-For-the-3D!&p=3906&viewfull=1#post3906
I'll be a tester
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Sweet, flash this rom for me and let me know any issues you run into. It should boot and work but like the OP says, I have no way of testing for my self.
I'm down!!! I've been waiting for you guys. I been flashing t.n's stuff on my evo for a long time. This is gonna be a great project.
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I didnt know we had fans over this way. I'm in uncharted waters lol
I p.m'd wolf yesterday asking if u guys were ever gonna do anything w the ns4g. I'm d/l now and I'll get the pics IP for ya.
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I'll just be happy to know it boots, thats my main concern. Screenshots would be a plus lol
I'm at work w no laptop, so o gotta d/l from my phone, so gimme a lil bit. At least I got good old wimax tho.
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tommy0823 said:
I'm at work w no laptop, so o gotta d/l from my phone, so gimme a lil bit. At least I got good old wimax tho.
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ah ok, well i got my fingers crossed lol. I'm not going to sleep till i know it works.
Makin a backup, and ill let ya know in a few mins. I have my other phone w me so I cam check mms, calls amd all that fun stuff. Lol. At least I have somethin to do till everyone gets here.
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Sounds good, let me know how it goes.
Sweet I used your guys Roms on my Evo 4g an Evo 3D...I'll give her a shot her in a bit...
It's definitely booting. I'm on it now. The AP drawer is off center, but mms, Wimax, wifi, sync is working. Calendar sync fced, but that's it so far. It tried to auto system update too, but I denied it. great work for an alpha man.
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Thats great, Everything is off center because i forgot to resize the home.apk. I'm going to do a quick update right now and fix that and try to remove that updater app.
If you want to keep runing the rom and not wait for the update, Push this app to system/app
http://www.androidfilehost.com/main...ical/Xplod_XE/Nexus_S_4G/Test Builds/home.apk
I included Es file explorer so you can use that to push it. Just reboot and everything should be fine.
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I didnt know we had fans over this way. I'm in uncharted waters lol
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Build it and they will come.
Thats the goal lol
I'll keep it going man. Like I said, I been waiting to see something from one of u guys. Lol. It's stable enough for me and I'll do everything I can to help.
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I just uploaded 0.2 with the fixed home screens. So as soon as you guys can shoot me the screen ****s that would be great. [email protected]
MIUI V4 (ICS)
This is a port of MIUI ICS to the Nexus S 4G. Thanks to Mark for giving permission to port this and to be a part of the miuiandroid development team
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HOW TO INSTALL
-Download ROM and place on SD
-Reboot into recovery and..
-If coming from another ROM, make sure you do a full wipe (cache/dalvik/data/system/boot)
OR
-If upgrading from a previous build, feel free to just wipe cache/dalvik cache. If you experience problems please consider doing a complete wipe before posting bugs
-Flash ROM
-Flash custom ICS kernel (A MUST FOR WIFI) (optional, but recommended)
OFFICIAL CHANGE LOG HERE
**TIPS**
IF GPS DOESN'T WORK TRY DOWNLOADING GPS STATUS & TOOLBOX AND DOWNLOAD A-GPS DATA UNDER TOOLS>MANAGE-A-GPS STATE. IF THAT DOESN'T WORK FOLLOW THESE INSTRUCTIONS HERE, WORKED WONDERS FOR ME
IF YOUR PICTURES/MUSIC ARE NOT SHOWING UP DOWNLOAD "RESCAN MEDIA" FROM MARKET AND RUN IT
I HIGHLY RECOMMEND FLASHING A DIFFERENT ICS KERNEL FOR PERFORMANCE IMPROVEMENT
NOT WORKING:
-4G (I don't have 4G, will probably not attempt to add for awhile. PLEASE DON'T ASK FOR AN ETA ON THIS. When I know, you'l know)
-Also, most themes made for MIUI are for MIUI Gibgerbread so beware! Make sure the theme your using specifies it's for ICS MIUI (MIUI V4)[/SIZE]
CREDITS:
Oodie, MarkHUK, rlasalle15
, Scott951 , kong(without these guys, this ROM wouldn't have been ported. Thank you so much guys)
MY CHANGE LOG (3/18/12)
-added 3 way reboot option (credit: kong)
-updated busybox
-fixed init.d issue
-added facebook contact sync
-modded services.jar for V6 Supercharger
-added new Project Vex icons (over 1000)
-added modified MIUI ICS LS (credit: Mr. Megi and myself)(double click center ring for music controls)
-Some build.prop tweaks
Sweetness!
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I don't have wifi so I'm using 3g to upload. About half way there.
This was a long time coming guys
@ flood, can I get you to post a change log? I forgot to grab second post lol
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!!!!
fergie716 said:
I don't have wifi so I'm using 3g to upload. About half way there.
This was a long time coming guys
@ flood, can I get you to post a change log? I forgot to grab second post lol
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Oopps sorry yea pm me
°•neXus S4G•°
Probably dumb question but.... any 4g?
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shinigami13 said:
Provably dumb question but.... any 4g?
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Never, okay maybe not today
°•neXus S4G•°
Yesssssssssss!!!
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I'll be testing as soon as the link is up! I'm Hella excited for this.
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FL0OD said:
Never, okay maybe not today
°•neXus S4G•°
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Lol.. its all good. I was hopeful due to the fact CM9 drivers were involved in the mix.. can't wait to check out..
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Fergie - You got it themed up and the whole 9? Loved what you had on GB MIUI.
shinigami13 said:
Lol.. its all good. I was hopeful due to the fact CM9 drivers were involved in the mix.. can't wait to check out..
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I was just going to to say NEVER but some one mentioned to me it could be done. So you never know.
°•neXus S4G•°
FL0OD said:
I was just going to to say NEVER but some one mentioned to me it could be done. So you never know.
°•neXus S4G•°
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Pigs will also fly, one day.
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4g ever have a shot at working on this? Only thing that's held me back from miui
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kalico17 said:
4g ever have a shot at working on this? Only thing that's held me back from miui
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Dood really?
°•neXus S4G•°
Well considering that MIUI is going open source it will be possible one day. until then, oh well. Lol.
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Links are up! Please follow instructions
I will theme this tomorrow for sure with my modded icon packs
So far this is my not working list:
MMS (received only)
4G (don't ask, don't plan on attempting that yet)
Enjoy guys!!!!!!!
I always wanted to try this but I heard it doesn't have 4g, is that still true?
Hi flood
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FL0OD said:
Dood really?
°•neXus S4G•°
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Hello everyone! This is a port of Brainmaster's MIUI ICS ROM
He has released an update on Twitter for MIUI ICS and I ported it to our devices
ROM FEATURES
-MIUI V4.0 (ICS)
-Brainmaster's tweaks (build.prop/boot.img/init.d tweaks)
-More info coming when Brainmaster lets me know more specifically what the tweaks are, but for anyone who has ran his ROMs before, you know he does a great job
-Some data apps pre installed
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WHATS NOT WORKING
-4G (don't ask for an ETA on this, when it gets worked out I will let you know)
Tips
-Re sync Google account a few minutes after initial set up to ensure everything sets up correctly
-Run GPS Status app and download A-GPS data under Tools>Manage A-GPS
-If all of your photos/media don't show up download "Rescan Media" and run it
-If you decide to flash Matr1x Kernel, delete the init.d folder inside his zip to prevent issues. The scripts in the kernel may conflict with brainmaster's scripts
DOWNLOADS
2.3.16_MIUI_BRAINMASTER_NEXUS_S4G.zip
HOW TO INSTALL
-Download all of the zips in the DOWNLOADS section
-Wipe cache/data/system/boot
-Flash MIUI_BRAINMASTER_NEXUS_S_4G
-Flash ICS kernel (OPTIONAL BUT RECOMMENDED)
-Reboot into system
-Enjoy!
I will update this if I can and when Brainmaster can. Enjoy!
CREDITS
-BRAINMASTER for being a great guy and giving me the go ahead to port this and all of his work in the android community
-Oodie for helping so much
-rlasalle15 and Scott951 for helping me so much, thank you guys!
Change log
3-18-12
-UPDATED TO MIUI V4 2.3.18
-Tweaked
-Nexus S Settings added
-Themed
-buil.prop, init.d Tweaks
-MORE INFO ON CHANGE LOG COMING ASAP
MIUI CHANGE LOG
Ohhh why must you do this to me XD
Trying this out too then. lol
reserved.........
Thank you very much!!
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Isnt this Brainmasters final work?
downloading right now man thanks
JPHoller said:
Thank you very much!!
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No problem enjoy!
Caballero777 said:
Isnt this Brainmasters final work?
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Where did you hear that? I know Brainmaster is taking some time from development to attend to personal matters, but no I do not think he is done with development permanently
solesonfire said:
downloading right now man thanks
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No problem enjoy!
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Ahhhhh man. Two beautiful MIUI ICS ROMS inn 24 hours. Lol. I think I'll stay with yours for now but I may try this one out too.
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so i got it set up and everything is working well... question fergie do you know if andys extended settings have been realesed for 2.2.10 ics i guess i tried 2.2.10 GB and it sent me in a crazy bootloop... TIA
solesonfire said:
so i got it set up and everything is working well... question fergie do you know if andys extended settings have been realesed for 2.2.10 ics i guess i tried 2.2.10 GB and it sent me in a crazy bootloop... TIA
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No, Andys extended settings are for GB. He released an ics version but idk when it was updated. I'll ask him tomorrow
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This ones running great so far, too... I'll keep updating feedback after battery calibrates.
So far no notable complaints that can't be fixed with what's included, apart from MMS but the gosms app will suffice
My phone fit to this version better than your oodie version, I will use this as my daily driver. Thank you so much Fergie
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Good Morning,
Does anyone got a mirror for the fixes zip?
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Thanks Fergie for porting this one since I have no clue how to do it.
I'm probably going to update the ROM once in a month and if you have the time to port it for the NS4G it would be great.
damn it
i finally got my phone to where I'm good now you guys go and release this lol
downloading now because I have to try it.
Thanks fergie and brianmaster for all your hard work
After flash air kernel I have found at nexus s GSM forum now this rom really smooth at my phone.
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Man!! Coming from an Evo, i was really depressed to see the lack of good MIUI stuff on the 4g!! THANK YOU FOR THIS!! CANNOT WAIT!!!!
MIUI looks great on the NS4G screen. Thank you for this.
Hey fergie your rom or oodies rom would be cool if the phone worked.
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[ROM][ICS][4.0.4](02/19/2012) nuhetri-reloaded-4G-v1.0.0 [QuadLock & Ext Power Menu
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ICS 4.0.4
Fastest ICS ROM to date, the proof is in this thread
Features:
-Extended Power Menu
-Quad Lockscreen
-battery mod
-rooted
-busybox
-deodexed
-gapps included.
Install instructions
-Reboot to recovery
-Flash
-Wipe Dalvik and Cache
- DO NOT WIPE DATA there is a bug and wont boot if u do. working to fix it.
What doesn't work:
-GPS seems to be a little off for some, others have reported no problems at all. Looking into it.
Whats to come:
-Status Bar widgets (i hope)
-v1.0.0 changelog
-Extended Power Menu
-Optimized some framework files.
-Bluetooth deep_idle fix.
-added T9 Dialer
-added Apex Launcher
-added nuhetri boot animation
-added quad lockscreen
-optimized a bunch of stuff.
-new battery mod
Download Here: -v1.0.0
-ROM
Credits:
- Google for 4.0.4
Help me buy a Galaxy Nexus by Donating
reserved for later
and again reserved.
Is this the same I tested or a little different .
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zackandethan said:
Is this the same I tested or a little different .
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Little different. I did a few more things before release.
There wont be any issues without wiping data?
should I format system and boot or no?
Another q lol, would it be best to clean install slim ics first then install this? (since its really simple)
joebarkho said:
There wont be any issues without wiping data?
should I format system and boot or no?
Another q lol, would it be best to clean install slim ics first then install this? (since its really simple)
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Does matter which rom I have done from all different roms
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any screen shots? also does this rom have the bt wifi gps etc buttons in the pulldown menu?
adamw1101 said:
any screen shots? also does this rom have the bt wifi gps etc buttons in the pulldown menu?
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No, read the OP
°•neXus S4G•°
Thank you sir. Flashing now
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Zoom, zoom, FLASH THIS!!!
°•neXus S4G•°
I'm getting Google map fc when I'm not even using it.
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Interesting......
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Fyi irtehun GPS locks perfectly for me now.... great work
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joebarkho said:
I'm getting Google map fc when I'm not even using it.
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Not having that problem. What rom did you flash over? Did you try clearing the apps data?
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Flashing now! Thanks for this.
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Yeah I'm running good too . Everything working here . Also flashed my favorite mods and working like a charm.
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zackandethan said:
Yeah I'm running good too . Everything working here . Also flashed my favorite mods and working like a charm.
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What mods do you run?
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Neckberg said:
What mods do you run?
I like the inverted people, mms, gtalk and toggles from Gomez . I like the black on the inverted .
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I just love new ROMs. Downloading now. A little reserved about no pulldowns though i use mine quite a bit. Thanks man!
Team D.I.R.T and most of Savoca present...
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Features:
-Based on CM source
-Stable UI, OS
-Modified Launcher (Trebuchet)
-Modified Settings
-Integrated DSP/Development into Settings.
-Integrated tweaks
Bugs:
-You tell me
Credits:
-Lithid (Helped me through all my life troubles)
-Mazda (Insight, you are a hero)
-preludedrew
-Team DIRT
Screenshots:
Changelog:
Code:
[1.0.4b]
-Initial release on Nexus S 4G
-Re-based to CM Source
-Toolbox is now CM system settings (Titled "Advanced")
-Performance activity now accessed directly through Settings[CM]
[1.0.3]
-Removed Launcher preferences from Settings (Enabled in launcher)
-Modified default workspace
-Renamed Toolbox app
[1.0.2]
-Replaced Launcher2 with Trebuchet
-Added Trebuchet preferences's activity to Settings.apk
-Added Development, DSPManager, both accessible through Settings.apk
-Added Terminal Emulator
-Added Team DIRT Wallpaper app
[1.0.1]
-Added Themes functionality
-Removed duplicate default wallpaper
-Edited Torch.apk
-Cleaned up build.prop
Download!
v1.0.4b
Disclaimer: Not responsible if you break your phone blah blah.
is this version 4.1.1r4?
Thanks
Man bro, you guys are making me wanna turn the ns4g back on real bad. Lol. I finally get a new phone, and there's more stuff pop pin out in here than I've ever seen.
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Gapps included?
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mikegleave13 said:
Gapps included?
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Yes they're included!
jblazea50 said:
is this version 4.1.1r4?
Thanks
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This isn't Jelly Bean.....look at the screenshots bro!
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TEAM DIRT IN THA HOUSE!!!
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My bad Just read op looks like it does
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Been running this all day & seems really smooth so far. No real hiccups as of yet great work
Looks nice I will try it.Thanks
no clear label in title as to what os this is -1
ebs512 said:
no clear label in title as to what os this is -1
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Clearly States its aosp.. screen shots show its ICS and so what's the problem?
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evol4g said:
Clearly States its aosp.. screen shots show its ICS and so what's the problem?
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No big deal but aosp is available for ICS and jellybean, I was confused when I first saw this thread posted because I thought it was for jellybean until I read one of the other users comment not trying to down your team or product
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ebs512 said:
No big deal but aosp is available for ICS and jellybean, I was confused when I first saw this thread posted because I thought it was for jellybean until I read one of the other users comment not trying to down your team or product
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it's called seductive advertising
curiosity will have you check it out at least
evol4g said:
it's called seductive advertising
curiosity will have you check it out at least
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Lmao good one bro
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dl'ing now it looks cool I still like ICS since 4g is still working with most apps. I'll let u know ...
Suntar said:
dl'ing now it looks cool I still like ICS since 4g is still working with most apps. I'll let u know ...
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Same still on ICS as well till apps get updated for jb and other issues get sorted out. And trinity kernels get better
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So does everything work. Because the op says you tell me and there is nothing there. Thanks in advance. And sorry for the noon question.
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Can anyone respond to my question?
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just try it for yourself... no rom is perfect but nearly everything is working, if something isn't working it's some small little issue that won't kill your user experience... and that's the case 99.9% of the time when someone puts "you tell me" just for future reference.
evol4g said:
just try it for yourself... no rom is perfect but nearly everything is working, if something isn't working it's some small little issue that won't kill your user experience... and that's the case 99.9% of the time when someone puts "you tell me" just for future reference.
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Thanks a lot for the information and sorry for asking such a nooby question. P.s. thanks for the you tell me thing evo
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