Sooo I despite the many times I reminded myself to unlock booloader as soon as I got my phone...yup I forgot . .I was so excited when I got my phone that started messing around with it. Now two weeks later I come to realize that I forgot to unlock it....****. sooo now question being; how can I make the transition painless as far as back up, restore, home screen widgets...I am aware of the any options but I want to see what was easier from experience...thanx
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Accept the pain.
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Make a backup, unlock, restore backup.
Not seeing too many difficulties with that concept myself...
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Make a backup, unlock, restore backup.
Not seeing too many difficulties with that concept myself...
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And what do u suggest I backup with? Google does that for me...I'm talking about my system data and app data.
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And what do u suggest I backup with? Google does that for me...I'm talking about my system data and app data.
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How about good old TitaniumBackup? It has been updated for ICS.
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How about good old TitaniumBackup? It has been updated for ICS.
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Titanium backup needs root. You cannot make a nandroid backup without root/custom recovery either. Unless you found a way around the bootloader, you need to unlock it before you have root access. So, you're in a pickle.
Honestly, I'd say to just use the built in screenshot function to save what your screens look like. Rely on the Market auto-restore feature to make the restoration quicker, and set it up over again.
If you want to save your texts, use SMS Backup and Restore (free app). Save your images and vid to your computer to stick back on there after.
Good luck!
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Couldn't you just flash clockwork mod through fastboot without root?
Or does fastboot only work once unlocked?
Sorry if I sound ignorant, I don't know the answer myself because I unlocked immediately. Therefore I don't know what would happen if you were to try and flash CWM via fastboot while locked.
Anyone know?
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Wait a minute...
Couldn't you just flash clockwork mod through fastboot without root?
Or does fastboot only work once unlocked?
Sorry if I sound ignorant, I don't know the answer myself because I unlocked immediately. Therefore I don't know what would happen if you were to try and flash CWM via fastboot while locked.
Anyone know?
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You have to unlock the bootloader in order to make changes to recovery.
With the bootloader locked, it won't let you make any changes to system image files.
On other phones, there are exploits available to trick the phone into unlocking the bootloader. On Nexus devices, all you have to do is "fastboot oem unlock"
Nothing bad will happen if you try to flash it with the bootloader locked. It'll just simply deny you the access to override the existing recovery with the one you wish to flash.
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Hi, just flashed the Google Factory Reset Image for GN (Android 4.0.2).
Should i lock the bootloader again (seems to be recommended from Google's side)..?
Im not gonna run custom software at this time.
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Hi, just flashed the Google Factory Reset Image for GN (Android 4.0.2).
Should i lock the bootloader again (seems to be recommended from Google's side)..?
Im not gonna run custom software at this time.
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No you should not. There is no reason to.
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No you should not. There is no reason to.
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What he said. Just leave the bootloader unlocked and don't flash anything. You'll still receive ota.
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The only danger of an unlocked boot loader comes from what you do with the phone from when it's unlocked .
If you feel confident with flashing etc then keep it open , if as you have stated you don't want to flash then you may as well just lock it . It's so simple to unlock in any case . Personal preference really
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The only danger of an unlocked boot loader comes from what you do with the phone from when it's unlocked .
If you feel confident with flashing etc then keep it open , if as you have stated you don't want to flash then you may as well just lock it . It's so simple to unlock in any case . Personal preference really
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Yes, but every time you unlock it wipes all your data...
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Yep it sure does . Best to clear all data if you flash anything anyway . Either way it's up to you , no advice here is wrong . Your decision )
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Yes, but every time you unlock it wipes all your data...
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+1... leaving it unlocked does no harm as long as you dont do any mods afterwards. Leaving it unlocked allows you to back up game saves / app data if you decide to root/modify again.
Just if you send it back for manufacturer purposes.. relock the phone.
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Yep it sure does . Best to clear all data if you flash anything anyway . Either way it's up to you , no advice here is wrong . Your decision )
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I agree with you, that you should wipe everything when flashing a new ROM. However, I don't think I expressed my point properly: if your bootloader is locked, and say you want to flash a new radio, or a new recovery image (which do NOT require wiping your data at all), you CANNOT easily without wiping everything.
OK, this method was out since long time ago, but since not a lot of people know about this simple method, I am thinking of posting this thread to help a lot of people
Source: http://www.androidcentral.com/how-i-back-my-stock-unrooted-galaxy-nexus
Just follow the instruction and you should be able to temporary use the Clockworkmod recovery and able to backup all of your data (Make sure you got ADB driver installed though)
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OK, this method was out since long time ago, but since not a lot of people know about this simple method, I am thinking of posting this thread to help a lot of people
Source: http://www.androidcentral.com/how-i-back-my-stock-unrooted-galaxy-nexus
Just follow the instruction and you should be able to temporary use the Clockworkmod recovery and able to backup all of your data (Make sure you got ADB driver installed though)
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1. Root is not required for backup through recovery, whether running recovery that is on the device or booting recovery from your PC. Being rooted and having a custom recovery installed are two different things. Title is misleading.
2. Method still requires unlocking the bootloader (which still wipes your phone), you might as well flash recovery anyway.
It is neat that this is possible, but it seems rather redundant and unnecessary once you realize the only difference between booting into recovery from fastboot and flashing recovery is where the recovery is stored. The bootloader still has to be unlocked, if I'm not mistaken. If it doesn't have to be unlocked, then I can see the significance
JaiaV said:
1. Root is not required for backup through recovery, whether running recovery that is on the device or booting recovery from your PC. Being rooted and having a custom recovery installed are two different things. Title is misleading.
2. Method still requires unlocking the bootloader (which still wipes your phone), you might as well flash recovery anyway.
It is neat that this is possible, but it seems rather redundant and unnecessary once you realize the only difference between booting into recovery from fastboot and flashing recovery is where the recovery is stored. The bootloader still has to be unlocked, if I'm not mistaken. If it doesn't have to be unlocked, then I can see the significance
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As much as you're right, some people just wants to get OTA and stuff... For example, 3 of my friend who owns android wants to get OTA. Of course this isn't the most recommended way, at least it is there for people who wants it
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kyokeun1234 said:
As much as you're right, some people just wants to get OTA and stuff... For example, 3 of my friend who owns android wants to get OTA. Of course this isn't the most recommended way, at least it is there for people who wants it
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I understand, it's just that the difference between the methods is negligible.
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I understand, it's just that the difference between the methods is negligible.
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I understand what you're saying too. It's just good to have choices you know?
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Titanium Backup is just so useful. Such a helpful utility. I guess the easiest without root would be through imaging of userdata?
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honesly I havent rooted or unlocked my bootloader yet, i dont really have a sense of urgency. at least not till aosp roms drop.
my question is, now that the boot loader has been cracked. we should expect an untethered recovery right?
also, from what i undrstand. i have to root first, then boot loader unlock, then i can flash the tethered recovery, right?
When you root and unlock the bootloader using the methods in the dev threads it will put in CWM.
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So I root. Unlock boot loader. N cwm is installed like magic?!
Is it the tethered version
sheek360 said:
So I root. Unlock boot loader. N cwm is installed like magic?!
Is it the tethered version
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I honestly have no idea what tethered version is, I am assuming you can only get into it by plugging your phone in and running some type of cmd? If so, then its untethered cause I can use it anywhere.
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I honestly have no idea what tethered version is, I am assuming you can only get into it by plugging your phone in and running some type of cmd? If so, then its untethered cause I can use it anywhere.
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Can you wipe, back up, etc? Exactly how did recovery wind up on your device? I'm confused.
sheek360 said:
Can you wipe, back up, etc? Exactly how did recovery wind up on your device? I'm confused.
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The Freegee bootloader unlock process installs it for you. You can wipe, mount, flash.... it gave me an error when I tried to back up but i'm pretty sure that can be done too.
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The Freegee bootloader unlock process installs it for you. You can wipe, mount, flash.... it gave me an error when I tried to back up but i'm pretty sure that can be done too.
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Gotcha. Thnx
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The Freegee bootloader unlock process installs it for you. You can wipe, mount, flash.... it gave me an error when I tried to back up but i'm pretty sure that can be done too.
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What he said ^
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You have to backup up to internal sd card or something like that, it's a few lines down from the normal backup.
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Will I be able to apply/receive software updates when root enabled? I am worried that I won't be able to apply google updates once root enable, is this an issue? Is there a workaround?
Thanks!
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Will I be able to apply/receive software updates when root enabled? I am worried that I won't be able to apply google updates once root enable, is this an issue? Is there a workaround?
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If you install the simple fix here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44597339#post44597339
You can install future OTAs successfully and keep root.
geocine said:
Will I be able to apply/receive software updates when root enabled? I am worried that I won't be able to apply google updates once root enable, is this an issue? Is there a workaround?
Thanks!
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Just rooting doesn't prevent updates. You just lose root and have to reapply after update.
Custom recovery means you probably need to download the update file and apply it via the recovery instead of the automatic updater.
Changing or removing system files will almost definitely prevent updates being applied.
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Just rooting doesn't prevent updates. You just lose root and have to reapply after update.
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Actually I was surprised also, but SuperSU does prevent the OTA from completing successfully.
Read the referenced link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44597339#post44597339
I JUST did this. I had TWRP and rooted. I has 15J. Booted my nandroid. Downloaded the 15Q update, restarted to install. TWRP caught the stock image and flashed it.
Then I booted into 15Q. I lost root and TWRP. Flashed over TWRP through fastboot and rooted.
No issues.
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player911 said:
I JUST did this. I had TWRP and rooted. I has 15J. Booted my nandroid. Downloaded the 15Q update, restarted to install. TWRP caught the stock image and flashed it.
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Are you rooted using SuperSU, what version, and can I examine the zip file.
Thanks guys, actually I haven't rooted this device yet. Because I am still reading on stuff here on xda how to do it the right way and the links you posted
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sfhub said:
If you install the simple fix here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44597339#post44597339
You can install future OTAs successfully and keep root.
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hi sfhub, do I need to do
fastboot oem unlock
before doing
fastboot boot twrp.img ?
I've been rooted since day one and gotten ota updates fine.
I use twrp and just make sure to flash supersu each time and call it good. Not a single problem on my end.
Even still if you bork it just flash factory image. It's pretty simple to get out of a pinch. But rooting and ota should work fine as long as you keep stock image. Just reflash supersu each time and you're good to go.
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hi sfhub, do I need to do
fastboot oem unlock
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fastboot boot twrp.img ?
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If you aren't already unlocked then, yes.
Most people will already be unlocked though if they are rooted.
fastboot oem unlock process will force a factory reset for security purposes so backup anything important.
sfhub said:
If you aren't already unlocked then, yes.
Most people will already be unlocked though if they are rooted.
fastboot oem unlock process will force a factory reset for security purposes so backup anything important.
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I haven't rooted my device yet , I am on all stock. Does 'fastboot boot' just loads the twrp image and not flash it?
How will I be able to backup stuff, are there any other options aside from titanium backup that requires root .
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geocine said:
I haven't rooted my device yet , I am on all stock. Does 'fastboot boot' just loads the twrp image and not flash it?
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Yes.
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How will I be able to backup stuff, are there any other options aside from titanium backup that requires root .
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There are some backup apps that don't need root, but probably need to restore.
You can also try adb backup, but it may not backup 100% of your stuff.
I'm not the best person to ask on the backup as I always unlock before I do most of the software installs just so I can avoid losing customizations later on.
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Yes.
There are some backup apps that don't need root, but probably need to restore.
You can also try adb backup, but it may not backup 100% of your stuff.
I'm not the best person to ask on the backup as I always unlock before I do most of the software installs just so I can avoid losing customizations later on.
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Thanks, I am currently backing up using adb., a non 100% backup is better than no backup at all. I hate redoing things.
sfhub said:
Yes.
There are some backup apps that don't need root, but probably need to restore.
You can also try adb backup, but it may not backup 100% of your stuff.
I'm not the best person to ask on the backup as I always unlock before I do most of the software installs just so I can avoid losing customizations later on.
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While we are it, I just want to ask if it is also possible to bring back the bootloader to a locked state. thanks.
geocine said:
While we are it, I just want to ask if it is also possible to bring back the bootloader to a locked state. thanks.
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Yes, very simple, just type
fastboot oem lock
I would advise against doing so unless you plan to return the unit though, as if you ever need to do stuff to your system (even factory restore) then you'd need to unlock again, which would factory reset again.
sfhub said:
If you install the simple fix here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44597339#post44597339
You can install future OTAs successfully and keep root.
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Here is a post from sfhub
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geocine said:
Here is a post from sfhub
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BTW the author of SuperSU recently implemented the change I made so starting in v1.55 the separate fix is no longer necessary.
sfhub said:
BTW the author of SuperSU recently implemented the change I made so starting in v1.55 the separate fix is no longer necessary.
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The 1.55 update doesn't appear to want to install properly for me from Google Play. Is this an issue of having the OTA fix installed?
Nevermind...i guess i needed to reboot...but, this does beg the question, is there anything related to the OTA fix that needs to be "uninstalled" in general?
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Nevermind...i guess i needed to reboot...but, this does beg the question, is there anything related to the OTA fix that needs to be "uninstalled" in general?
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No, there is nothing to uninstall. It is very clean.
sfhub said:
BTW the author of SuperSU recently implemented the change I made so starting in v1.55 the separate fix is no longer necessary.
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Is there anything I should do if I already have your fix installed?
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For some reason the top half of my phone's screen won't response to touch. If anyone has a way of fixing it, I will appreciate it. If not I'm gonna take it to sprint, but I need to make the phone completely stock again. I don't have a pc tho.
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For some reason the top half of my phone's screen won't response to touch. If anyone has a way of fixing it, I will appreciate it. If not I'm gonna take it to sprint, but I need to make the phone completely stock again. I don't have a pc tho.
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You could boot into recovery and install cwm recovery if your recovery is unlocked. Just use the volume and power keys. Then install ZVC Stock rooted and use FreeGee to relock it.
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engine95 said:
You could boot into recovery and install cwm recovery if your recovery is unlocked. Just use the volume and power keys. Then install ZVC Stock rooted and use FreeGee to relock it.
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Would that take away the google image everytime my phone turns on?
cjay15 said:
Would that take away the google image everytime my phone turns on?
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When you relock with FreeGee it'll go back to LG logo.
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nice thinking engine95
I noticed if I used freegee to unlock my device with the mako unlock. then try and relock and restore it via freegee it don't work. it will soft brick the phone for some reason.
Rmontoya83 said:
I noticed if I used freegee to unlock my device with the mako unlock. then try and relock and restore it via freegee it don't work. it will soft brick the phone for some reason.
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That is probably because you changed something. If you remove any system apps or make any changes to the system and re-lock it will soft brick. It has to be untainted for the relock to work. That's why you're supposed to make a backup before making any changes and then restore the backup before re-locking the BL.