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Is there anyone who has made any headway in their research on cracking or unlocking the bootloader? My short research confirms that it is using a 256-bit encryption algorithm, but I've not identified the algorithm used, nor do I think it would matter, as I really have no intention of doing a cryptanalysis on something that strong and I doubt anyone else would, either. Out of curiousity, though: anyone know offhand?
I'm curious to know what methods you guys are attempting to employ and what, if any, other research has already been done. I'd like to help, where I can.
**** if i knew more about it id take a crack at it but unfortunately i lack the skills required. Guess its time to learn huh.
grayn0de said:
Is there anyone who has made any headway in their research on cracking or unlocking the bootloader? My short research confirms that it is using a 256-bit encryption algorithm, but I've not identified the algorithm used, nor do I think it would matter, as I really have no intention of doing a cryptanalysis on something that strong and I doubt anyone else would, either. Out of curiousity, though: anyone know offhand?
I'm curious to know what methods you guys are attempting to employ and what, if any, other research has already been done. I'd like to help, where I can.
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Vache and I worked on it yesterday for about 6 hours. We didn't get it cracked yet but we are making progress. Don't bother with trying to get your SBK (secure boot key) because A: you won't be able to crack the encryption & B: we have a "secret" way to extract it from the tablet (shhhhh!) (and no, we won't share it just yet, sorry )
timbrendelaz said:
Vache and I worked on it yesterday for about 6 hours. We didn't get it cracked yet but we are making progress. Don't bother with trying to get your SBK (secure boot key) because A: you won't be able to crack the encryption & B: we have a "secret" way to extract it from the tablet (shhhhh!) (and no, we won't share it just yet, sorry )
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Ahh. Yes, it looks like I noticed vache's call for test in the ROOTED thread a bit late, sent him a PM a couple hours ago.
If you guys need another "Linux guy" or a fresh set of eyes, feel free to PM me. I'll keep poking about the system on my own, in the mean time, as well. Good luck on the research!
This is great news!
This is awesome. Keep up the good work.
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timbrendelaz said:
Vache and I worked on it yesterday for about 6 hours. We didn't get it cracked yet but we are making progress. Don't bother with trying to get your SBK (secure boot key) because A: you won't be able to crack the encryption & B: we have a "secret" way to extract it from the tablet (shhhhh!) (and no, we won't share it just yet, sorry )
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reallllyy appreciate the times you guys are putting into this.
I'm curious how the bootloader is different from the acer iconia a500? If it is not, couldn't we use the same technique from there?
will this thing never gonna get unlocked?
i think i should just sell that piece of ****
TheUndertaker21 said:
will this thing never gonna get unlocked?
i think i should just sell that piece of ....
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Go for it, the Developers of the XDA community don't owe you anything and if this is how you are going to help (by complaining) then you are better off selling this wonderful device. Patience is a key thing with this device, just like the atrix its just a matter of time.
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I'm curious how the bootloader is different from the acer iconia a500? If it is not, couldn't we use the same technique from there?
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Yes, different bootloader, due to both having different versions of hc. The A100 is newer, has newer programming, and leaves us with a different place to start. I myself have tried putting every single script of my A100 into an emulator on my PC to attempt to "reverse engineer" the bootloader to try to decrypt it, but that was unsuccessful for many reasons.
ummmmm............ could you repeat that?
Rather new to androids but I would consider myself a Linux guru. I just picked up an A100 on an open box sale and I would like to get involved in cracking the bootloader on this device. I am a professional low level developer and I have contributed to the development of several major open source projects including Gentoo and Fedora.
I also own a new Samsung Nexus S. Whose working on this now? Is there anything you need help with?
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I also own a new Samsung Nexus S. Whose working on this now? Is there anything you need help with?
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Our biggest challenge with this device is the 256bit encrypted bootloader from hell.. if you know a cryptologist, or some one at acer, that would help a ton
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I tried not cracking the bootloader but loading a second init. This proved beyond my skills. I am more a infrastructure and SQL guy then developer.
I would love to have this thing cracked open but I must say with a few tweeks this is a fast stable tablet. I do not know what I would want changed other then the native bluetooth PAN menu.
I just received my a100 from best buy, order placed on black friday.
I would love to see the bootloader cracked.
Keep up the good work guys.
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I for one would love to see some development on the a100! If there is anything I can do to help just let me know. Im not a dev but I have been tinkering since ms-dos in 1982, and I am very eager to see some development on this tablet, especially usb host mode. good luck!!
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I tried not cracking the bootloader but loading a second init. This proved beyond my skills. I am more a infrastructure and SQL guy then developer.
I would love to have this thing cracked open but I must say with a few tweeks this is a fast stable tablet. I do not know what I would want changed other then the native bluetooth PAN menu.
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That's the route Im going as well, so far I've compiled 2nd-init and it runs, but it crashes right after initalizing the memory and reboots the tablet (I dont think I have the correct memory address of init for the hook to work properly so it reboots the device). I've also tried log's kexec hack and I dont think it works. Asks for a kernel to load, which I dont have but, I dont think our current kernel supports kexec, so a module would have to be compiled for it. Im no kernel developer (I understand how they work, and how to mod an existing one, but building onne from scratch not so much). With kexec, it requires a special kernel the starts up where your current kernel resides in memory, so it would be harder to get working than 2nd-init.
cracking the encryption
I am not sure what type of file this is but I am fairly experienced with cracking and have access to a small render farm with plenty of gpu power and john the ripper installed. I could give it a go at cracking the password. let me know if I can help.
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I am not sure what type of file this is but I am fairly experienced with cracking and have access to a small render farm with plenty of gpu power and john the ripper installed. I could give it a go at cracking the password. let me know if I can help.
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You can't really brute force this kind of thing, we need to use some sort of exploit, would take millions of years or something like that.
Lightsword1942 said:
You can't really brute force this kind of thing, we need to use some sort of exploit, would take millions of years or something like that.
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I have brute forced a lot before its worth a shot, I wouldn't say its our best shot but it's worth a look and gives me something to occupy my time.
Hey everyone!
I've been looking at the A100 lately, as I have the ability to obtain one (new) for $75 and change (after a credit with the store). However, after reading this thread a bit, I'm concerned about the emmc issue.
Has Acer released any updated models that don't have this issue, do they all have this issue (at some point)? It's the only reason I would avoid it and look at different models. Is there an assembly date to watch for? lol I'd like to get one, but would rather avoid an issue like this, as I enjoy modding devices and don't want to run into warranty issues trying to have faulty tech replaced.
Any help/clarification would be greatly appreciated!
heX79 said:
Hey everyone!
I've been looking at the A100 lately, as I have the ability to obtain one (new) for $75 and change (after a credit with the store). However, after reading this thread a bit, I'm concerned about the emmc issue.
Has Acer released any updated models that don't have this issue, do they all have this issue (at some point)? It's the only reason I would avoid it and look at different models. Is there an assembly date to watch for? lol I'd like to get one, but would rather avoid an issue like this, as I enjoy modding devices and don't want to run into warranty issues trying to have faulty tech replaced.
Any help/clarification would be greatly appreciated!
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As far as we can tell they all have the same run of emmc memory, so in theory are all prone to it. Some protection can be found in the godmachine kernels and recovery, though. Mine hasn't bricked a second time since using a modified version of his kernels.
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As far as we can tell they all have the same run of emmc memory, so in theory are all prone to it. Some protection can be found in the godmachine kernels and recovery, though. Mine hasn't bricked a second time since using a modified version of his kernels.
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Thanks for the quick response! I've done some searching but can't seem to find any info on godmachine's recovery (unless I mistakenly overlooked it)? I can find his kernel (v2.0) and it appears to be installed via TWRP (which is fine).
This leaves me to assume that after unlocking the bootloader via the A200 replacement, I should just install TWRP, then flash godmachines kernel? (all this of course, after doing the ICS upgrade out of the box).
This is what I told a friend of mine who was thinking of getting one:
Depending on how much credit you are using, I would not spend more than $120 total for an A100 with all the new 7" tablets coming out with xmas and black friday on the way. I highly doubt you will get any more updates from acer with the new tablets they are releasing.
Pro:
Tegra2 chipset is great. ICS/JB runs really well. HDMI out works so this tablet acts as my portable media player (netflix, hulu, streaming from nas) to keep the kids busy. Games run well.
Con:
Emmc issue, bad viewing angle (even if it is only one really bad angle, the others are not so great either), low resolution, SOD, bad battery time (at least it charges really fast though), and worst of all, the touch screen issues. There are just some spots on the tablet that it takes 3-4 tries to work. build.prop also needs to be changed to show A500 for some games to be available.
As for development here on xda (with respect to pio_masaki and his private works) its safe to say that its pretty much dead. Good news is that the CM10 we have works almost flawlessly and Flexreaper rom is as solid as it gets.
Thanks for the feedback. I think, for now, I'll wait till the holidays arrive and see if other models come down in price. The Tegra 2 and dual core seemed a pretty decent combo for the price. The emmc issue is a complete turn-off, and was an absolute downer to read! But there is some possible hope for that with godmachines kernel.
I haven't read into it enough to have discovered the touch screen issues you mentioned, that is also going in the turn-off section.
Maybe I'll see what happens price wise with the Nexus 7 in December.
Thanks for the quick replies and helpful info! I'm still tempted, but will hold off on a purchase for now.
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Thanks for the quick response! I've done some searching but can't seem to find any info on godmachine's recovery (unless I mistakenly overlooked it)? I can find his kernel (v2.0) and it appears to be installed via TWRP (which is fine).
This leaves me to assume that after unlocking the bootloader via the A200 replacement, I should just install TWRP, then flash godmachines kernel? (all this of course, after doing the ICS upgrade out of the box).
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I let all the OTA ICS updates install, then rooted, then unlocked the bootloader, then installed TWRP, I then
used TWRP to install CM10, Jelly Bean optimized Kernel for A100, and pio_masaki's Gapps all at the same time,
I hope the "disabled MMC_CAP_ERASE function" does the job. :fingers-crossed:
I've suspected for a long time that custom ROMs have been the source of all my frustrations with the Gnex. I unlocked and rooted on the first day and even though there wasn't much in the way of custom Roms with 4.0 I was excited to try all the different mods that were slowly flooding XDA and RootzWiki.
This wasn't my 1st experience with root either. I owned the Dinc and loved the idea of tinkering with my device. I learned a lot. Mainly that you should ALWAYS MAKE A BACKUP. and take the extra minute to wipe everything. I don't even use TI backup anymore because I wanted to start over from scratch any time I flashed a new ROM.
I say this because I know there are ppl in the forums that are smarter than I when it comes to Android. There are also some of those same ppl that will assume that I made some sort of noob mistake and I should try "wiping data" or something. Trust me, I've tried that and it doesn't fix it.
My main issues have been:
*losing data connection for no reason and eventually having to reboot in order to restore data.
*Weak network/WiFi.
Now I know there is a thread on rootz that addresses the bars and how inaccurate they are. But when two identical devices sit down in the same place and run speed test. My Gnex can slow to a snails pace at times. The wierdest thing about this is that it only seems to do it sporadically, which makes recreating it almost impossible. Although it seems most frequent at work, but that maybe because I spend an ungodly amount of time at my office.
*Lag/freezes
I know its not gonna work perfectly all the time and sometimes you have to reboot your phone just to give it a chance to reset itself and that's cool but when you do that and it doesn't fix the sluggishness of the phone then I feel there is a problem.
* problems with certain system functions like Bluetooth or GPS
Now this may be only an issue with particular Roms which may be known to have problems with certain aspects of the system. For instance, it seems pretty common from what I've seen on the forums that GPS is an issue for some on 4.2. I was actually on 4.2 this morning until I went to punch in an address from a text msg to Navigation and it wouldn't lock on my location. I got frustrated and decided to wipe and install the AOKP milestone I had saved and when I set everything back up guess what? Navigation still wouldn't lock on. I ended up having to bail out on some guys because I could find there house. I got home and found a stock ROM online. I wiped, flashed and setup my phone for the second time today. I downloaded Maps and immediately went to find the address and it was insane how fast it locked on a location.
There are other issues but I'm becoming long winded so I'll try to wrap it up.
Now I'm not one to dismiss my own part in my problems. I've certainly tried to address them when/if they arise with what little knowledge I have and the ability to learn what I can. I e emailed devs amd talked to others and sometimes it helps, but sometimes like this morning you just want things to work when you need them to without wasting your time having to revert to a nandroid or doing some other wizardry.
"Well, why don't you just go buy an iPhone then?" you might say
I've actually contemplated it but I do really like android, Google Maps are the **** (I depend on Navigation a lot )and I like to be able to customize. And I also don't really want to pay the money to terminate my contract so I'm kinda just stuck. But I thought about doing one thing.
A couple weeks ago, I unrooted and relocked my phone and flashed stock images for JB on CDMA and from there all I did was unlock and root keeping it stock and I tell you I glad I did because all my problems no longer seem to exist. My battery life might not be what I was getting on 4.2 these last couple days but I think I'm willing to stick with this for now until Verizon gets off their ass and pushes an update to us.
I'm not trying to rant to the Dev community or complain that y'all aren't living up to my satisfaction. Hell, maybe somebody might have a solution I haven't tried yet. I'm just putting this out there in case someone was having the same trouble and could get some help.
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On ParanoidAndroid 2.54 + franco.kernel r300. None of the problems you mentioned are present or has ever happened with me. Perhaps if you didn't mod your phone so much as to NOT be able to pinpoint a problem is where you went wrong.
Who knows? I surely don't. Don't know you but I don't think I'll be noticing your absence. Good luck with everything!
automaddux said:
I've suspected for a long time that custom ROMs have been the source of all my frustrations with the Gnex. I unlocked and rooted on the first day and even though there wasn't much in the way of custom Roms with 4.0 I was excited to try all the different mods that were slowly flooding XDA and RootzWiki.
This wasn't my 1st experience with root either. I owned the Dinc and loved the idea of tinkering with my device. I learned a lot. Mainly that you should ALWAYS MAKE A BACKUP. and take the extra minute to wipe everything. I don't even use TI backup anymore because I wanted to start over from scratch any time I flashed a new ROM.
I say this because I know there are ppl in the forums that are smarter than I when it comes to Android. There are also some of those same ppl that will assume that I made some sort of noob mistake and I should try "wiping data" or something. Trust me, I've tried that and it doesn't fix it.
My main issues have been:
*losing data connection for no reason and eventually having to reboot in order to restore data.
*Weak network/WiFi.
Now I know there is a thread on rootz that addresses the bars and how inaccurate they are. But when two identical devices sit down in the same place and run speed test. My Gnex can slow to a snails pace at times. The wierdest thing about this is that it only seems to do it sporadically, which makes recreating it almost impossible. Although it seems most frequent at work, but that maybe because I spend an ungodly amount of time at my office.
*Lag/freezes
I know its not gonna work perfectly all the time and sometimes you have to reboot your phone just to give it a chance to reset itself and that's cool but when you do that and it doesn't fix the sluggishness of the phone then I feel there is a problem.
* problems with certain system functions like Bluetooth or GPS
Now this may be only an issue with particular Roms which may be known to have problems with certain aspects of the system. For instance, it seems pretty common from what I've seen on the forums that GPS is an issue for some on 4.2. I was actually on 4.2 this morning until I went to punch in an address from a text msg to Navigation and it wouldn't lock on my location. I got frustrated and decided to wipe and install the AOKP milestone I had saved and when I set everything back up guess what? Navigation still wouldn't lock on. I ended up having to bail out on some guys because I could find there house. I got home and found a stock ROM online. I wiped, flashed and setup my phone for the second time today. I downloaded Maps and immediately went to find the address and it was insane how fast it locked on a location.
There are other issues but I'm becoming long winded so I'll try to wrap it up.
Now I'm not one to dismiss my own part in my problems. I've certainly tried to address them when/if they arise with what little knowledge I have and the ability to learn what I can. I e emailed devs amd talked to others and sometimes it helps, but sometimes like this morning you just want things to work when you need them to without wasting your time having to revert to a nandroid or doing some other wizardry.
"Well, why don't you just go buy an iPhone then?" you might say
I've actually contemplated it but I do really like android, Google Maps are the **** (I depend on Navigation a lot )and I like to be able to customize. And I also don't really want to pay the money to terminate my contract so I'm kinda just stuck. But I thought about doing one thing.
A couple weeks ago, I unrooted and relocked my phone and flashed stock images for JB on CDMA and from there all I did was unlock and root keeping it stock and I tell you I glad I did because all my problems no longer seem to exist. My battery life might not be what I was getting on 4.2 these last couple days but I think I'm willing to stick with this for now until Verizon gets off their ass and pushes an update to us.
I'm not trying to rant to the Dev community or complain that y'all aren't living up to my satisfaction. Hell, maybe somebody might have a solution I haven't tried yet. I'm just putting this out there in case someone was having the same trouble and could get some help.
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Thats cool, you already tried your fair share of roms, if none of them worked for you the stock is the best with unsurpassed stability. Despite whats advertised about the nexus, the stock android firmware is excellent too, specially when you want something that just plain works.
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Great story brother. Thanks for sharing.
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bk201doesntexist said:
Great story brother. Thanks for sharing.
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Keep coming..it works if you work it
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goodbye person ive never seen post before. hope you figure out your problems
Stock is the way to go, but you don't have to leave the xda because you no longer run a custom ROM. there is a lot of useful information that is shared here that doesn't necessarily apply to custom ROM.
I am also running stock rom from now on.
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automaddux said:
I've suspected for a long time that custom ROMs have been the source of all my frustrations with the Gnex. I unlocked and rooted on the first day and even though there wasn't much in the way of custom Roms with 4.0 I was excited to try all the different mods that were slowly flooding XDA and RootzWiki.
This wasn't my 1st experience with root either. I owned the Dinc and loved the idea of tinkering with my device. I learned a lot. Mainly that you should ALWAYS MAKE A BACKUP. and take the extra minute to wipe everything. I don't even use TI backup anymore because I wanted to start over from scratch any time I flashed a new ROM.
I say this because I know there are ppl in the forums that are smarter than I when it comes to Android. There are also some of those same ppl that will assume that I made some sort of noob mistake and I should try "wiping data" or something. Trust me, I've tried that and it doesn't fix it.
My main issues have been:
*losing data connection for no reason and eventually having to reboot in order to restore data.
*Weak network/WiFi.
Now I know there is a thread on rootz that addresses the bars and how inaccurate they are. But when two identical devices sit down in the same place and run speed test. My Gnex can slow to a snails pace at times. The wierdest thing about this is that it only seems to do it sporadically, which makes recreating it almost impossible. Although it seems most frequent at work, but that maybe because I spend an ungodly amount of time at my office.
*Lag/freezes
I know its not gonna work perfectly all the time and sometimes you have to reboot your phone just to give it a chance to reset itself and that's cool but when you do that and it doesn't fix the sluggishness of the phone then I feel there is a problem.
* problems with certain system functions like Bluetooth or GPS
Now this may be only an issue with particular Roms which may be known to have problems with certain aspects of the system. For instance, it seems pretty common from what I've seen on the forums that GPS is an issue for some on 4.2. I was actually on 4.2 this morning until I went to punch in an address from a text msg to Navigation and it wouldn't lock on my location. I got frustrated and decided to wipe and install the AOKP milestone I had saved and when I set everything back up guess what? Navigation still wouldn't lock on. I ended up having to bail out on some guys because I could find there house. I got home and found a stock ROM online. I wiped, flashed and setup my phone for the second time today. I downloaded Maps and immediately went to find the address and it was insane how fast it locked on a location.
There are other issues but I'm becoming long winded so I'll try to wrap it up.
Now I'm not one to dismiss my own part in my problems. I've certainly tried to address them when/if they arise with what little knowledge I have and the ability to learn what I can. I e emailed devs amd talked to others and sometimes it helps, but sometimes like this morning you just want things to work when you need them to without wasting your time having to revert to a nandroid or doing some other wizardry.
"Well, why don't you just go buy an iPhone then?" you might say
I've actually contemplated it but I do really like android, Google Maps are the **** (I depend on Navigation a lot )and I like to be able to customize. And I also don't really want to pay the money to terminate my contract so I'm kinda just stuck. But I thought about doing one thing.
A couple weeks ago, I unrooted and relocked my phone and flashed stock images for JB on CDMA and from there all I did was unlock and root keeping it stock and I tell you I glad I did because all my problems no longer seem to exist. My battery life might not be what I was getting on 4.2 these last couple days but I think I'm willing to stick with this for now until Verizon gets off their ass and pushes an update to us.
I'm not trying to rant to the Dev community or complain that y'all aren't living up to my satisfaction. Hell, maybe somebody might have a solution I haven't tried yet. I'm just putting this out there in case someone was having the same trouble and could get some help.
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I hope you really didn't write all of this from your nexus lol. But just go to stock...simple :thumbup:
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I see how you feel abouyt this. I have had issues as well. It really stems from what Roms are and what we expect from them. The term Night lies have lost a little bit of its worry recently because they are fairly bug free. But that doesn't mean that little tweaks and mods aren't killing battery life and deteriorate over time due to bad patches and coding.
That said I would highly recommend checking out BuglessBeast. They are not night lies by any means. They are highly stable AOSP Roms that perform much better then anything else on the market. He has few commits aside from under the hood tweaks. Reboot menu, emoji and a slight few other things are it. I have never had an issue with them and recommend checking them out. Also they are pretty much the only VZW app compatible ROM. Peter has been building BuglessBeast since Eclair on the Droid1 (almost 3 years now). Always providing an excellent experience.
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Flashaholics anonymous?
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Stock + root is the way to go for me on Nexus phones. On my last non Nexus (SGS3) I was always flashing new roms trying to look for something that just works, but I am tired of it. On my Nexus S and GNexus, stock rom is amazing, I don't need anything else.
automaddux said:
I've suspected for a long time that custom ROMs have been the source of all my frustrations with the Gnex. I unlocked and rooted on the first day and even though there wasn't much in the way of custom Roms with 4.0 I was excited to try all the different mods that were slowly flooding XDA and RootzWiki.
This wasn't my 1st experience with root either. I owned the Dinc and loved the idea of tinkering with my device. I learned a lot. Mainly that you should ALWAYS MAKE A BACKUP. and take the extra minute to wipe everything. I don't even use TI backup anymore because I wanted to start over from scratch any time I flashed a new ROM.
I say this because I know there are ppl in the forums that are smarter than I when it comes to Android. There are also some of those same ppl that will assume that I made some sort of noob mistake and I should try "wiping data" or something. Trust me, I've tried that and it doesn't fix it.
My main issues have been:
*losing data connection for no reason and eventually having to reboot in order to restore data.
*Weak network/WiFi.
Now I know there is a thread on rootz that addresses the bars and how inaccurate they are. But when two identical devices sit down in the same place and run speed test. My Gnex can slow to a snails pace at times. The wierdest thing about this is that it only seems to do it sporadically, which makes recreating it almost impossible. Although it seems most frequent at work, but that maybe because I spend an ungodly amount of time at my office.
*Lag/freezes
I know its not gonna work perfectly all the time and sometimes you have to reboot your phone just to give it a chance to reset itself and that's cool but when you do that and it doesn't fix the sluggishness of the phone then I feel there is a problem.
* problems with certain system functions like Bluetooth or GPS
Now this may be only an issue with particular Roms which may be known to have problems with certain aspects of the system. For instance, it seems pretty common from what I've seen on the forums that GPS is an issue for some on 4.2. I was actually on 4.2 this morning until I went to punch in an address from a text msg to Navigation and it wouldn't lock on my location. I got frustrated and decided to wipe and install the AOKP milestone I had saved and when I set everything back up guess what? Navigation still wouldn't lock on. I ended up having to bail out on some guys because I could find there house. I got home and found a stock ROM online. I wiped, flashed and setup my phone for the second time today. I downloaded Maps and immediately went to find the address and it was insane how fast it locked on a location.
There are other issues but I'm becoming long winded so I'll try to wrap it up.
Now I'm not one to dismiss my own part in my problems. I've certainly tried to address them when/if they arise with what little knowledge I have and the ability to learn what I can. I e emailed devs amd talked to others and sometimes it helps, but sometimes like this morning you just want things to work when you need them to without wasting your time having to revert to a nandroid or doing some other wizardry.
"Well, why don't you just go buy an iPhone then?" you might say
I've actually contemplated it but I do really like android, Google Maps are the **** (I depend on Navigation a lot )and I like to be able to customize. And I also don't really want to pay the money to terminate my contract so I'm kinda just stuck. But I thought about doing one thing.
A couple weeks ago, I unrooted and relocked my phone and flashed stock images for JB on CDMA and from there all I did was unlock and root keeping it stock and I tell you I glad I did because all my problems no longer seem to exist. My battery life might not be what I was getting on 4.2 these last couple days but I think I'm willing to stick with this for now until Verizon gets off their ass and pushes an update to us.
I'm not trying to rant to the Dev community or complain that y'all aren't living up to my satisfaction. Hell, maybe somebody might have a solution I haven't tried yet. I'm just putting this out there in case someone was having the same trouble and could get some help.
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I'm with this guy as well... I upgraded to a stock 4.2 rom (with root, but not a custom build).. and I have been smooth sailing since. It seems with all these custom roms and kernels there are nothing but issues. Sure, they're a TAD faster or offer little tweaks but when you need to use your device in the real world and it f*cking reboots while navigating somewhere because of a stupid tweak you made.. well, I can't see why it's even needed.
This phone runs very well with Stock+Root. I normally root devices because of different apps I like to use, and the ability to make custom backups...but I dont normally try anything bleeding edge...lol.
Partly because of my experience on an HTC phone...hated Sense and bought the GNex because of the AOSP.
akira02rex said:
I'm with this guy as well... I upgraded to a stock 4.2 rom (with root, but not a custom build).. and I have been smooth sailing since. It seems with all these custom roms and kernels there are nothing but issues. Sure, they're a TAD faster or offer little tweaks but when you need to use your device in the real world and it f*cking reboots while navigating somewhere because of a stupid tweak you made.. well, I can't see why it's even needed.
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No need to bash the custom roms that some devs here work so hard to make, i agree that stock is amazing but android would be a boring scene without the custom roms out there
We would just be like Ios, Wp and blackberry users, stuck with what we've got
Others wouldnt even have the chance to use a newer OS version because their phone has been abandoned by official support.
Or many of u guys would have crappy colors or other issues that custom roms and kernels DID fix
I use stock but i love the fact that there are custom roms around
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No need to bash the custom roms that some devs here work so hard to make, i agree that stock is amazing but android would be a boring scene without the custom roms out there
We would just be like Ios, Wp and blackberry users, stuck with what we've got
Others wouldnt even have the chance to use a newer OS version because their phone has been abandoned by official support.
Or many of u guys would have crappy colors or other issues that custom roms and kernels DID fix
I use stock but i love the fact that there are custom roms around
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No I get that, it's good to see support for older devices but c'mon have you counted the amount of 4.1.2 roms that are available for the gnex? If I build android I'm automatically called a developer? Because that's the way it seems here...
I don't know why people keep bringing up the so crappy colors. In reality, the crappy colors are the ones custom ROM offer.
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Soldier 2.0 said:
I don't know why people keep bringing up the so crappy colors. In reality, the crappy colors are the ones custom ROM offer.
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its the kernels that offer the colors(the kernels that the ROM developers include too). of all the kernels available, only a very few distinguish themselves from the stock crappy colors.
This is ridiculous... who obligated you to install a custom ROM? F*cking emos.
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I've suspected for a long time that custom ROMs have been the source of all my...
Blah blah blah.....
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No, please stay! We'll never survive without you! [/SARCASM]
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This is ridiculous... who obligated you to install a custom ROM? F*cking emos.
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Alright Captain, you keep Franco deep in your throat.
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Hi All,
I'm from India and I'm planning to get a Kindle Fire HD 8.9' tablet. A friend will be getting it over as he's coming down. I'm an advanced android user with a couple of android devices and i've got experience in rooting, installing custom roms etc.I have a few doubts regarding the tablet. This tablet will be mainly used by mom, and i plan to make it as user friendly as possible.
I've gone through the FAQs, but i'm still a little confused.
1)I've read a lot about the 2nd Gen KF HD, will this affect me a lot? Is there a high possiblity of me getting the 2nd gen if i order it from amazon?
2)Since warranty is out of question, is the build quality good? I can manage with software glitches as there will be better custom roms addressing the issues, i want to know how sturdy it is.
3)Since there is no google play, i plan to remove the whole amazon eco-zone, as it's technically of no use here in india. So I've seen some CM 10 roms, although i'm not sure if they apply to the 2nd GEN.
4) Should i buy the ad supported one and then use the KindleFree Pro app? Or will the custom roms remove the ads by themselves. I'm asking this because 15$ makes quite a lot of difference.
I do have some more questions which I'll ask later on as they come up.
Regards,
CD
1) You will certainly get a 2nd generation Kindle Fire if you order it directly from Amazon, but if you plan on getting an HD8.9, it will be 2nd generation regardless of where you get it.
2) Google search "Kindle Fire drop test", "Kindle Fire stress test" or something similar and you will find plenty of reviews and videos showing how solid and sturdy the tablet is. I'm sure you will find that it meets or exceeds your expectations.
3) Development is still in it's earliest stages. There are CM10 or JB based Android ROMs for both the KF2 and the HD8.9, and are very solid with a few minor bugs that are still getting worked out on the kernel level. The Google Play store can be installed to a rooted stock device rather easily, so if the bugs involved with the custom ROMs is too much of a problem, there is no real reason to instal one unless you absolutely hate the stock UI.
4) The lockscreen ads are specific to the stock Kindle Fire firmware and never on any custom ROMs, but they can be easily be removed on a rooted stock device
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1) You will certainly get a 2nd generation Kindle Fire if you order it directly from Amazon, but if you plan on getting an HD8.9, it will be 2nd generation regardless of where you get it.
2) Google search "Kindle Fire drop test", "Kindle Fire stress test" or something similar and you will find plenty of reviews and videos showing how solid and sturdy the tablet is. I'm sure you will find that it meets or exceeds your expectations.
3) Development is still in it's earliest stages. There are CM10 or JB based Android ROMs for both the KF2 and the HD8.9, and are very solid with a few minor bugs that are still getting worked out on the kernel level. The Google Play store can be installed to a rooted stock device rather easily, so if the bugs involved with the custom ROMs is too much of a problem, there is no real reason to instal one unless you absolutely hate the stock UI.
4) The lockscreen ads are specific to the stock Kindle Fire firmware and never on any custom ROMs, but they can be easily be removed on a rooted stock device
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Thank you very much.
So I'll go ahead and purchase it
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Thank you very much.
So I'll go ahead and purchase it
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Enjoy. Whilst we wait for fully functional CM10 ROMs (i need bluetooth) , the screen should be well enough to win you over - it is fantastic.
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I've ordered the Kindle Fire HD 8.9", fingers crossed as there isn't any warranty or service centres in my country.
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I've ordered the Kindle Fire HD 8.9", fingers crossed as there isn't any warranty or service centres in my country.
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live in argentina, they sent me a new one and i sent the not working one, you could pay nothing or only some dollars, a bit. where do you live
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persano said:
live in argentina, they sent me a new one and i sent the not working one, you could pay nothing or only some dollars, a bit. where do you live
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I'm from India
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Sold
soupmagnet said:
1) You will certainly get a 2nd generation Kindle Fire if you order it directly from Amazon, but if you plan on getting an HD8.9, it will be 2nd generation regardless of where you get it.
2) Google search "Kindle Fire drop test", "Kindle Fire stress test" or something similar and you will find plenty of reviews and videos showing how solid and sturdy the tablet is. I'm sure you will find that it meets or exceeds your expectations.
3) Development is still in it's earliest stages. There are CM10 or JB based Android ROMs for both the KF2 and the HD8.9, and are very solid with a few minor bugs that are still getting worked out on the kernel level. The Google Play store can be installed to a rooted stock device rather easily, so if the bugs involved with the custom ROMs is too much of a problem, there is no real reason to instal one unless you absolutely hate the stock UI.
4) The lockscreen ads are specific to the stock Kindle Fire firmware and never on any custom ROMs, but they can be easily be removed on a rooted stock device
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Now I'm sold. Must be best bang for buck
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Now I'm sold. Must be best bang for buck
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Certainly best screen for buck!
Hi All,
I didn't want to start a new thread, so i felt I'll post here...
I received the KFHD 8.9" today, and i started it and first thing i noticed is that i have to register it with the amazon account, without that i couldn't use the tab like a normal android device with an app drawer. I have a few questions as a first time user of a kindle:
1) I couldn't find a way to skip the registration part, is it possible to skip it?
2) If i have to register my device with amazon, will it auto update to the latest firmware? Currently i can see the device version as v8.3.user_XXXXX is this 8.3.0 or 8.3.1?
3) Initially i want to just root the device and disable the OTA updates. I assume @soupmagnet's SoupKit will do this.(Although it's gonna be interesting as i've not used linux before)
Hope i made my doubts clear.
Regards,
CD
CosmicDance said:
Hi All,
I didn't want to start a new thread, so i felt I'll post here...
I received the KFHD 8.9" today, and i started it and first thing i noticed is that i have to register it with the amazon account, without that i couldn't use the tab like a normal android device with an app drawer. I have a few questions as a first time user of a kindle:
1) I couldn't find a way to skip the registration part, is it possible to skip it?
2) If i have to register my device with amazon, will it auto update to the latest firmware? Currently i can see the device version as v8.3.user_XXXXX is this 8.3.0 or 8.3.1?
3) Initially i want to just root the device and disable the OTA updates. I assume @soupmagnet's SoupKit will do this.(Although it's gonna be interesting as i've not used linux before)
Hope i made my doubts clear.
Regards,
CD
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I was in your position a few months ago. I got the tablet because of the price. They were offering it to students for $250...which was the same price as two of my books. I then found out that I couldn't even use my own e-reader. It's such a power device, but it has a terrible UI and they give you next to no control over it.
You really have no choice but to root it. After you root it, please make sure that OTAs are disabled. I spent hours trying to get my kindle back to how it was after getting caught by an OTA. A few months ago, KFfirstaid was by far the easiest root tool, but I'm not sure if it's still supported.
Once you root, you can install google play and a new launcher. That should suffice for most users.
If you want, you can install hashcode's second bootloader/TWRP . It's not that hard to follow his directions, but it's more difficult than rooting. Then you can install custom roms, but most of them are still in trial phase.
URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2128175"]Hashcode's instructions[/URL]
It's well worth it to root it, but it might be more difficult to deal with than you're used to.
Hi all. I am also planning to buy one of these to use as a regular tablet. Couldn't care less about the Amazon stuff, to be honest. I'm just interested in the bigger, higher resolution screen compared to the Nexus 7.
So is it safe to assume that, once you root, disable OTA updates, install Google Apps and a new app drawer (ADW, GoLauncher, etc) this would act like any other Android device? Or are there any other quirks to take into account?
Sorry to highjack the thread, but I felt there was some common ground here
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Hi all. I am also planning to buy one of these to use as a regular tablet. Couldn't care less about the Amazon stuff, to be honest. I'm just interested in the bigger, higher resolution screen compared to the Nexus 7.
So is it safe to assume that, once you root, disable OTA updates, install Google Apps and a new app drawer (ADW, GoLauncher, etc) this would act like any other Android device? Or are there any other quirks to take into account?
Sorry to highjack the thread, but I felt there was some common ground here
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Yes but I would install the CM10 ROM - the amazon stock Rom is slower and has lots of unnecessary bloat (if you do not need those features, which most do not).
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Yes but I would install the CM10 ROM - the amazon stock Rom is slower and has lots of unnecessary bloat (if you do not need those features, which most do not).
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Thanks, but no thanks. At least not until a stable version is released.
I plan to use the stock OS and change the UI experience by using a different drawer, add some of my favorite apps and maybe even remove some of the Amazon garbage if i'm feeling adventurous, all without compromising stability, to use it as a general android tab. I was just wondering whether this would be possible, or if there's something I'm missing.
I'd like to know now, before I shell out the 300€
anacondo said:
Thanks, but no thanks. At least not until a stable version is released.
I plan to use the stock OS and change the UI experience by using a different drawer, add some of my favorite apps and maybe even remove some of the Amazon garbage if i'm feeling adventurous, all without compromising stability, to use it as a general android tab. I was just wondering whether this would be possible, or if there's something I'm missing.
I'd like to know now, before I shell out the 300€
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It's possible. You'll need to root it. You'll find it works fine (but not particularly responsively) with stock OS and a separate launcher. If you're rooting anyway and want rid of the amazon cr!p, why not install a decent ROM? it is, of course, your choice and Hashcode's CM10 has some minor issues but I use it very happily as a daily driver.
There's no recent apps button in stock but there are ways around that in the forums.
Good luck!
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apd said:
It's possible. You'll need to root it. You'll find it works fine (but not particularly responsively) with stock OS and a separate launcher. If you're rooting anyway and want rid of the amazon cr!p, why not install a decent ROM? it is, of course, your choice and Hashcode's CM10 has some minor issues but I use it very happily as a daily driver.
There's no recent apps button in stock but there are ways around that in the forums.
Good luck!
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Because i won't be the only person using it and i'd rather have a stable product that works just fine than the latest, bleeding edge in performance. Also, i'm a bit worried about voiding the warranty, so i'd rather not go too deep until things are more certain (proper roms, 100% support for all functionalities, etc).
How bad is responsiveness, though? This is the first time i hear of this, and the last thing i want is a laggy device. Are there any tests or reviews out there, with hard numbers?
Thanks!
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Because i won't be the only person using it and i'd rather have a stable product that works just fine than the latest, bleeding edge in performance. Also, i'm a bit worried about voiding the warranty, so i'd rather not go too deep until things are more certain (proper roms, 100% support for all functionalities, etc).
How bad is responsiveness, though? This is the first time i hear of this, and the last thing i want is a laggy device. Are there any tests or reviews out there, with hard numbers?
Thanks!
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Let's take this step by step. To install Google play and the launcher properly you will need root. You will also need root to remove amazon crap because some of it is system crap. As with all devices, that probably voids your warranty unless you return it to stock before getting a repair done (ie so they don't find out). So I'm not sure I see the logic of the warranty issue. If you read all the rooting threads, you will gain root first time and won't have any issues.
As for responsiveness with a third party launcher on top of stock, it is still responsive and usable, but less responsive. You will also have two launchers installed because the pure Amazon apps (eg kindle) are only accessible through the Amazon launcher if you are still on stock. There are no 'hard numbers' as each person's set up will be different and, also, the benchmarks are really quite useless.
Your starting point was to use the kfhd as a regular android tablet with the stock ROM. It will act like an android tablet but one with some quirks based on the stock ROM. If you want a stock android tablet, you need to go to cm10, which requires root (which you will have already) but also a second (removeable) boot loader. Again, read the threads before doing anything and you will not have issues. Look at the issues list for cm10 on the kfhd - the only real issue now is audio input and some people complain about 3d gaming.
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apd said:
Let's take this step by step. To install Google play and the launcher properly you will need root. You will also need root to remove amazon crap because some of it is system crap. As with all devices, that probably voids your warranty unless you return it to stock before getting a repair done (ie so they don't find out). So I'm not sure I see the logic of the warranty issue. If you read all the rooting threads, you will gain root first time and won't have any issues.
As for responsiveness with a third party launcher on top of stock, it is still responsive and usable, but less responsive. You will also have two launchers installed because the pure Amazon apps (eg kindle) are only accessible through the Amazon launcher if you are still on stock. There are no 'hard numbers' as each person's set up will be different and, also, the benchmarks are really quite useless.
Your starting point was to use the kfhd as a regular android tablet with the stock ROM. It will act like an android tablet but one with some quirks based on the stock ROM. If you want a stock android tablet, you need to go to cm10, which requires root (which you will have already) but also a second (removeable) boot loader. Again, read the threads before doing anything and you will not have issues. Look at the issues list for cm10 on the kfhd - the only real issue now is audio input and some people complain about 3d gaming.
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I know i'll have to root, and I know it'll void my warranty. But i'm somewhat more at peace by doing just that and staying stock (maybe even removing some apps) than completely wiping off the system and installing a 2nd bootloader. I may be wrong, but wouldn't it be simpler to revert to factory settings that way, in case I need to send it back?
I've been using android for a while now. I have used several roms with three different phones. Some were great, some others not so much. I've experienced its idiosyncrasies when things are still experimental, and I'm fine rebooting my phone every once in a while, or resetting the wi-fi because the driver is not working properly, if it's all for a greater good. But as I said before, this device won't be for me only, so I'd rather have stability and functionality at the cost of raw performance, at least until a stable rom with 100% functionality is released and the process is reasonably risk-free and fool proof. The other users of this device are non-tech savvy and I'd like to keep things as simple and smooth for them as possible.
That's why I'm interested in the quirks of the amazon firmware with another drawer app on top. What would be different from stock android? We will be using it mainly for web browsing, ebook reading, video and music reproduction, emailing and the casual game. I haven't had the chance to try one of this devices yet, so I don't know what could go wrong. Maybe the back and home buttons won't work with another drawer? You mentioned something about not having access to the recent opened app list. Those are the little things I'm interested about: they may not be show stoppers but they can make the day to day experience a little bit painful.
I've also been thinking about the ipad mini because of the ui and general ease of use, but since I can get one of these for 20eur less, with double the disk space and a far better screen, I would rather not. I just wanna make sure the kindle lives to my expectations
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I know i'll have to root, and I know it'll void my warranty. But i'm somewhat more at peace by doing just that and staying stock (maybe even removing some apps) than completely wiping off the system and installing a 2nd bootloader. I may be wrong, but wouldn't it be simpler to revert to factory settings that way, in case I need to send it back?
I've been using android for a while now. I have used several roms with three different phones. Some were great, some others not so much. I've experienced its idiosyncrasies when things are still experimental, and I'm fine rebooting my phone every once in a while, or resetting the wi-fi because the driver is not working properly, if it's all for a greater good. But as I said before, this device won't be for me only, so I'd rather have stability and functionality at the cost of raw performance, at least until a stable rom with 100% functionality is released and the process is reasonably risk-free and fool proof. The other users of this device are non-tech savvy and I'd like to keep things as simple and smooth for them as possible.
That's why I'm interested in the quirks of the amazon firmware with another drawer app on top. What would be different from stock android? We will be using it mainly for web browsing, ebook reading, video and music reproduction, emailing and the casual game. I haven't had the chance to try one of this devices yet, so I don't know what could go wrong. Maybe the back and home buttons won't work with another drawer? You mentioned something about not having access to the recent opened app list. Those are the little things I'm interested about: they may not be show stoppers but they can make the day to day experience a little bit painful.
I've also been thinking about the ipad mini because of the ui and general ease of use, but since I can get one of these for 20eur less, with double the disk space and a far better screen, I would rather not. I just wanna make sure the kindle lives to my expectations
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I'm not sure what else I can add without repeating what I've said. CM10 will do exactly what you want and smoothly. Amazon stock will behave as I;ve already set out. This is no contest with the iPad Mini which is too small, with a crap screen and no ability to customise.
CosmicDance said:
Hi All,
I didn't want to start a new thread, so i felt I'll post here...
I received the KFHD 8.9" today, and i started it and first thing i noticed is that i have to register it with the amazon account, without that i couldn't use the tab like a normal android device with an app drawer. I have a few questions as a first time user of a kindle:
1) I couldn't find a way to skip the registration part, is it possible to skip it?
2) If i have to register my device with amazon, will it auto update to the latest firmware? Currently i can see the device version as v8.3.user_XXXXX is this 8.3.0 or 8.3.1?
3) Initially i want to just root the device and disable the OTA updates. I assume @soupmagnet's SoupKit will do this.(Although it's gonna be interesting as i've not used linux before)
Hope i made my doubts clear.
Regards,
CD
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How's your experience been so far? Did you root using SoupKit for Linux in the end? Was it succesfull at removing the ads with version 8.3? Are you still using stock, or moved to CM10?
I seem to be in the same situation you were before buying the kindle, so I'm quite interested Would you still recommend the tablet?
Thanks!
I was so excited to get a different phone. I had been contending with the insufferable Galaxy Note 2 for 9 months. I really believed that getting the LG Optimus G Pro would be great.
Now I come to find out that there is this locked bootloader? yes before you even start typing: I already know about Freegee. I put it on my phone, it did its work. I have CWM on my phone. I cannot install a different rom. It aborts every time.
And nobody here can help. Its not like you don't see my posts. You see them. You just see them and decide to go on to something more interesting figuring that someone else will help the poor guy.
Hey guess what. I took programming in college. Only one course in VB but I did take it. And I've put up several websites back in the day. ("back in the day is a United States colloquialism")
My point is, even though I have a bit of experience with computers (linux distros, html, visual basic) I still can't figure out the quagmire that is Android.
Once the iPhone 6 comes out, I really have no reason to stick with Android anymore. I mean, if rooting and rom-ing the phone is more boringly laborious than jailbreaking, then what is the point of Android?
For example, lets say I do clear the hurdle and then flash a rom so I can get decent sound? THEN my wifi won't work. Or Some other crucial functionality will be fubar-ed. Okay okay... you say you have a fix for that? Well when its all said and done, the time/energy costs just aren't worth it, now is it?
0 #!*! Given ?
That's interesting because I never took any classes and have never had a problem rooting or doing Roms on any android phone. Sorry your experience has been bad but my questions have always been answered by somebody in the related thread. I would try asking again in the ROM's thread to see what is happening.
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G pro is the note 2 killer...... Just follow instructions of any op to the T and you should be fine.... It's simple lol
2SHAYNEZ
I agree. I don't post often but I really do hate Apple. Android kicks Apple's you know what many times over. Talk about being locked down.... If I've ever had a problem with a Rom someone has always helped me figure it out. Sorry about your problems though.
sent from my lgog pro. I just had to go bigger.
@Perry2547,
If CWM doesn't work then try TWRP, even i had problems with CWM.either install it from freegee or install this
copy this to sd card and then flash it in CWM and reboot.
I believe the OP just wanted to start a thread...
So you all may ignore him
Thanks @sukesh.
I tried the twrp you linked to and now my phone will let me flash.
Unfortunately, Camera has stopped.
Close thread please.
2SHAYNEZ
I don't even remember how I rooted this phone... I know I found a thread that had comprehensive instructions, links, etc and believe it was as simple as downloading/extracting an executable file on my PC and plugging the phone into USB at the right moment. I've flashed CM, stock 4.4, Slim and always find my way back to stock 4.1.2, modded to my liking. If you can't flash something in a custom recovery, it's likely your phone is protecting you from failure to completely read/follow a prior mod or a prerequisite to the ROM/Mod you wish to flash.
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But seriously y'all, I'm just glad I have another two hours if battery life left. That means I will vhave to recharge this phone only 3 more times today.
Unfortunately, Camera has stopped.
I too just got new lg ogp phone. Been trying to customize it to my liking for the past 3 days and night. All I can say about android is it is not for everybody. Sure, you can use it as it is when you first get it as a stock device, and it will work as advertise. But there is a reason that you try modifing it regardless of breaking the manufacturer's warranty (yes, once you start rooting it, you violate the agreement.) You have personality of the kind that thinks you can fix anything by yourself. Nothing wrong with that, I'm in same personality group too, many Android owners are. After all, what is the point if you can't modify the phone to your liking? Might as well get an Iphone right? Sadly though, it seems the new android trend is just heading the way of iphone, where users have to be protected from harming themselves. I noticed all the difficulties when I tried to root this LG phone, as compared to the phone I had two years ago. But android users are a persistent lot, more securities mean inventing more ways to break them. If you have problem installing ROM, try cm11 nightly build, it works for me. Post the specific problems and situations. We should be able to help each other. After all, android owners are together in a special community where we can relate to each other because of ideas we have for our phones. My advice to you is make sure you have the newest recovery and you are properly rooted. I can't use the script method where you run a msdos batch file. Since atnt suppose locked the boot.img file or something. Had to use a program called root master.
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Nobody gives a damn, get life!
Antigen said:
Nobody gives a damn, get life!
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Haha
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hawkwind212 said:
I too just got new lg ogp phone. Been trying to customize it to my liking for the past 3 days and night. All I can say about android is it is not for everybody. Sure, you can use it as it is when you first get it as a stock device, and it will work as advertise. But there is a reason that you try modifing it regardless of breaking the manufacturer's warranty (yes, once you start rooting it, you violate the agreement.) You have personality of the kind that thinks you can fix anything by yourself. Nothing wrong with that, I'm in same personality group too, many Android owners are. After all, what is the point if you can't modify the phone to your liking? Might as well get an Iphone right? Sadly though, it seems the new android trend is just heading the way of iphone, where users have to be protected from harming themselves. I noticed all the difficulties when I tried to root this LG phone, as compared to the phone I had two years ago. But android users are a persistent lot, more securities mean inventing more ways to break them. If you have problem installing ROM, try cm11 nightly build, it works for me. Post the specific problems and situations. We should be able to help each other. After all, android owners are together in a special community where we can relate to each other because of ideas we have for our phones. My advice to you is make sure you have the newest recovery and you are properly rooted. I can't use the script method where you run a msdos batch file. Since atnt suppose locked the boot.img file or something. Had to use a program called root master.
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Exactly.
If android is going to be locked down, what is the point? With iPhone bringing in 3rd party keyboards and phablet size phones, might as well go with them instead of utilitarian design devices made by dictator led countries where creativity is frowned upon.
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Perry2547 said:
Exactly.
If android is going to be locked down, what is the point? With iPhone bringing in 3rd party keyboards and phablet size phones, might as well go with them instead of utilitarian design devices made by dictator led countries where creativity is frowned upon.
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Oh lawdy... Then go to iPhone buddy .. Lol see ya
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But Apple has been implicated in planned obsolescence as well.
Does that matter to you?
To me, it makes me a bit upset that I could work on my vehicle twenty years ago, but now it's not possible. Planned obsolescence.
Make everything sweepstakes m disposable. Lock it down too. Keep every one buying the upgrades.
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Are you still having problem installing the ROM? You have never tell us what kind of problems you ran into specifically. You just ventted your frustration here, nobody wants to hear that. If you want people to help, describe the issue. Go to this site and download the program vroot.
http://www.mobilepoint.us/2013/10/android-root-master-one-click-vroot.html#.U9XRXYfwJGo
The program is in Chinese, so you may want to watch youtube videos on the master root program first. Do a factory reset, clean wipe, run master root program, and hopefully you should be able to install the recovery. Once the recovery is properly installed, you can install the custom rom. Since there aren't many, I suggest you try cyanogenmod.
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hawkwind212 said:
Are you still having problem installing the ROM? You have never tell us what kind of problems you ran into specifically. You just ventted your frustration here, nobody wants to hear that. If you want people to help, describe the issue. Go to this site and download the program vroot.
http://www.mobilepoint.us/2013/10/android-root-master-one-click-vroot.html#.U9XRXYfwJGo
The program is in Chinese, so you may want to watch youtube videos on the master root program first. Do a factory reset, clean wipe, run master root program, and hopefully you should be able to install the recovery. Once the recovery is properly installed, you can install the custom rom. Since there aren't many, I suggest you try cyanogenmod.
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I got a ROM to install. I indicated so in the thread. It was the E988 rom on the E980 thread.
I do a lot of whining and complaining but its for the best.
I hope that the complaining I did about Samsung's crappy products has saved a few people from buying...that is the only way that company will learn their lesson. Why pay $800 for a device only to get screen burn in.
But I never ever never ever BRICKED my Note 2.
I've bricked this OGP more times than I can count.
We should have the options to remove the locked boot loader. I would gladly sign an agreement acknowledging the risks.
We're going backwards. We're not making progress.
Same things is happening in desktop/laptop computers. I had to do something unusual to remove the UEFI on a Windows machine I bought last year just to install Lubuntu.
Speaking of Lubuntu, I had an ASUS Netbook with Windows 7 and an Atom processor. Needless to say, it ran slow. So I installed Lubuntu. Then , wow, the device ran so fast and smooth, and the already good battery life got three times better.
Why can't we have an option like that for our smartphones? I want to run the equivalent of Lubuntu on my OGP.
And another thing: Why are some custom roms dimming the display? Is it to make it appear as if the rom is giving better battery life?
Peace out bro.. but yeah, I'm not stopping my rants. If you don't like what I've got to say, simply don't read it.
This phone is not much more difficult to root than any Samsung phone I used. Also why didn't you do research before buying the phone? It was stated clearly that the boot loader was locked. However since day one of purchase I was able to follow a thread and have my phone rooted in ten minutes. It is really not that hard. Now there are a bunch of one click roots. This phone installs custom Roms every time with ease for me. I am no expert but I can read instructions. If you follow them, 99% of the time things will work. I love android for the fact that I have options. I am running a rooted stock ROM now but I love knowing that in ten minutes time I can have a new ROM flashed. This community has been so helpful and responsive.
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