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Woohoo!

I successfully edited my first .png and ported it as a theme!
Colored Vibrating Phone!!
I want to appologize for being impatient to all the current theme developers specifically Manup. After spending an hour how to get the .png to save in the archive file, I can see that editing each individual icon could take hours and hours if you want it to look right.
Time for me to try at some more difficult stuff.
Hope to be posting my first theme within the next few months.

um..what did you do that took so long?

well....
Remember that this is my first self attempt at this.
I was having trouble getting it to save to the archive. The pop up was behind other applications I was running, so I didn't see it prompting me to save to the archive.
Next is just the editing of the .png itself. If I was just copying and pasting it wouldn't have taken any time. I had to find the icon I wanted to put there, then change the colors just right. It isn't really hard, just time consuming, but you already know that. This is why I was apologizing. Its my first time, give me a break.

Ok I went to edit the first android boot screen.
and of course it hung on boot screen in a loop. My file went from around 3k to 31k so obviously the file is too big. I can't seem to find an option to compress or deflate the file using 7zip.
Can any give me some suggestions?

You don't the .png images with 7zip you do it with Photoshop or whatever graphic design program. There is a post some where explaining how to compress the .png images i just don't know it of hand.

Yeah you want to save the file in photoshop using the save for web & devices...or the pngout program. read thru this here. has my way and the pngout way in the posts.
Ill give ya a tip, this is how i do it at least. i extract the update.zip then extract all the apks that i am going to change. I start editing all the files in framework-res, then move to Launcher, contacts and phone. After these are done i normally import them into the update.zip, sign it and test it.
When i import the images i just open the update.zip in WinRar, then double click the apk i need to import images into. It opens the apk in a new WinRar window, i browse tot he folder i need then just drag the images into it. Do that for each apk then sign it and test it.
Hope this helps.

I was using 7zip for extraction and paintshop pro for editing
I was doing fine. I was just excited to get that far. One of the problems I ran into was when I edited an image file it went from 3k to 30k when. I even used png crush and it only compressed to 24k. Not sure if it is even important yet.
I was only:
A) apologizing for expecting so much when it is so much work.
B) proud that I figured it out and am on my way to editing/creating my own theme.
I only ask one thing of some of the more senior devs. Please don't be so critical. All of us are at several different levels. What may seem juvenile to you might be a huge hurdle to others. This is why we are dependant on you for themes.

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I was doing fine. I was just excited to get that far. One of the problems I ran into was when I edited an image file it went from 3k to 30k when. I even used png crush and it only compressed to 24k. Not sure if it is even important yet.
I was only:
A) apologizing for expecting so much when it is so much work.
B) proud that I figured it out and am on my way to editing/creating my own theme.
I only ask one thing of some of the more senior devs. Please don't be so critical. All of us are at several different levels. What may seem juvenile to you might be a huge hurdle to others. This is why we are dependant on you for themes.
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Good job on getting going, im getting ready to make a go of it as well. I dont think they are criticizing you just being helpful. Have you seen how critical people are in the theme makers posts, cant believe half the theme makers still do it lol.

Brutal-Force said:
I was doing fine. I was just excited to get that far. One of the problems I ran into was when I edited an image file it went from 3k to 30k when. I even used png crush and it only compressed to 24k. Not sure if it is even important yet.
I was only:
A) apologizing for expecting so much when it is so much work.
B) proud that I figured it out and am on my way to editing/creating my own theme.
I only ask one thing of some of the more senior devs. Please don't be so critical. All of us are at several different levels. What may seem juvenile to you might be a huge hurdle to others. This is why we are dependant on you for themes.
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Hope i didn't come off that way...i was just trying to help. no ill intenet in that post at all =)

Thank you.
It always helps with reassuring words while trying something this complicated.

Thank you damnitpud.
I have been following the forums very closely since October. I have even followed your posts and tutorials. I am just trying to ride the wave crest and not fall in, because getting out is a *****. I have had to not only pick up the 'ol writing computer

Read through my post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3339701&postcount=6
It tells you how to edit the update.zip without extracting anything but the drawables folder. After a lot of time and effort I have streamlined the process as much as possible so maybe you can pick up a few tricks with that walkthrough. And I use gimp, I dont mess wtih compression or saving file for web. I take big images, save them as a png, resize them to 48x48 using the XP power toys resizing tool and drag-and-drop them into my update.zip. I dont know what is happening but everyone keeps thinking its way harder than it really is.
Then when I swap themes from ADP to RC33 or vice versa I open up my theme in 7zip and a blank theme in the version I want to convert too. I got to each apk and drag-and-drop the drawables folder straight into the other update.zip replacing the existing drawables folder. If you do it my way you can convert a theme in minutes or if you have all the artwork you can turn it into a theme in about 15-20 mins TOPS.
My biggest suggestion is to experiment with trial and error, use your nandroid backup and make mistakes, its the best way to learn and there is nothing that compares to hands on experience, that way you know what works and you can tell people from experience instead of hearsay.

7Zip is the best tip you gave B, I tried using WinRar but it wasnt as user friendly for this stuff. Especially as 7Zip saves as you swap and move up the file tree.

I am using your tutorial B.
I don't have photoshop, so I am using Paintshop pro PhotoX2 which works fine for me.
I was using 7zip, but I am used to using Winzip. I am currently using Winzip12 so thats serving my needs nicely.
What I was referring too isn't so much difficult in moving files around, it is more or less knowing WHICH files you can mess with. I have seen posted that don't mess with .9.png files at them moment as that can cause problems. I also do not know what size a theme is aloud to be in the update.zip. I also wanted to know If i have to include ever single file or if it is just neccessary to do just the things you want to change.
It isn't hard to actually do the file changing and such, the "HARD" part is more Time consuming then hard, and thats the artwork required to actually change the look of the component.
More questions will pop-up I am sure, but I am in the Trial and Error Stage right now.
Another question if anyone reads this, Where is the Clock Widget located? I see that every theme maker edits this, and lets be honest, If you use this widget, it is the center focal point of every theme. Just changing this gives the whole desktop another feel.

Brutal-Force said:
...Where is the Clock Widget located? I see that every theme maker edits this, and lets be honest, If you use this widget, it is the center focal point of every theme. Just changing this gives the whole desktop another feel.
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It's in the Launcher.apk.

All your questions are in the tutorials, if you drag the drawable folder onto your desktop you can see the pics when you doubleclick the folder.
Just my thought,
The clock is something that most people change, but I dont use the clock, that is why the time is in the corner constantly. I feel the clock just eats up space on my desktop. Of course I like it with as few icons as possible.

Thanx for the replies.
I had also found the clock in the Launcher.apk file, but for some reason, when I try and edit it and put it back into the folder it causes my phone stop at the boot screen. I just wanted to make sure I was trying to edit the right file.
I somehow expected it to be in a completely different place.
Yes a lot of my questions may seem to be repeats, but I had initially started this thread as just a Eureka thread. But as long as people who are in the know are reading it, I am glad to ask questions. Sometimes the Main threads and stickies are 150 pages deep and after not reading them for two days you kind of get behind.

well if we are asking questions....then can someone help me
when I go to update my phone with the update zip i get
E:Wrong digest
system/app/Launcher.apk
E:Verification failed
and yes I am new at this...

Have you rooted with RC29 yet?
Looks like what happens before you root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442480
Read this first.

I had the exact same "wohoo" feeling when I made my first theme mod and it was a success.

HTC Quietly Brilliant - Start Up WVGA CAB

The files for this Animation was providet by [ElCondor]
So what i did.. because at first i don`t like the Backround colour i modify the backround frames and make them full black and full white without any shadows also clear some pixels and make the animation faster and under 100kb
The final result is really cool looking animation, fast and smooth i think to make diferent colours and styles when i have more time.
Also here is Sound from the Windows 7 Start up but because in diferent ROMs sometimes the Start up sound is with diferent name i will post the sound separate and if anyone like it can just rename and copy in the Windows Folder.
I Already test it few times on my HD and the result is Amazing.
The file TSALTABlackWVGA.cab Including FULL BLACK animation and The Same Welcomehead.png
The file TSALTAWhiteWVGA.cab Including FULL WHITE animation and The Same Welcomehead.png
If you want WelcomeHead like this in the Last image you need to download:
DiferentWelcomehead.Zip unzip the file and copy the file Welcomehead.192.png in your Windows Folder --- NOTE this Diferent Welcomehead is only for the Black Version for NOW.
If you want to use only the Animation then download HTCBlackAnimation.zip
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Can you "clean up" the white version aswell?

Yes of course what kind of colour you need? i mean i can do it diferent colour if u want
I can clean it to be Super White or i can make it any diferent colour if u want let me know and i need around 10 minutes to make it

Super White version would be great!
No rush tho. Take your time.

You are ready chek out the 1st post and let me know how run in your HTC i can make it Whiter but i think this is enought white

Nice work
Well done

Excellent stuff! Works great. Alot faster than the previous version.
Thanks alot for that. Appreciated

Yes its faster, clear and lighter Enjoy
Later on when have more time will make diferent colours and maybe not only the backround colour will be diferent can add some more things etc

Just noting something here:
The whole animation is made by me and this guy distributes it without giving me credit.
Let this be clear: I just call this stealing. It took hours to make it, he grabbed it, enhanced it a bit (will be about 2 minutes to do) and uploaded it without asking anything...

[ElCondor] said:
Just noting something here:
The whole animation is made by me and this guy distributes it without giving me credit.
Let this be clear: I just call this stealing. It took hours to make it, he grabbed it, enhanced it a bit (will be about 2 minutes to do) and uploaded it without asking anything...
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Good work thanks

[ElCondor] said:
Just noting something here:
The whole animation is made by me and this guy distributes it without giving me credit.
Let this be clear: I just call this stealing. It took hours to make it, he grabbed it, enhanced it a bit (will be about 2 minutes to do) and uploaded it without asking anything...
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ARE YOU CRAZY ?
I Give you Credit and on the same time i did it because im not a NUT what more credit you want? to make you a blow ..j....b ?
1st i was enought nice with you.
2nd i Write with Border that you provie the files for this Animation.
3rd This Animation that i UPLOAD is complate diferent in theAnimation have 64 Frames and REDUCE this GIF ANIMATION CLEAR it and Make it DIFERENT COLOUR also Your file is Over 200KB my File is Under 90KB
So The Peoples Who Already USE your Animation come here and Download this Animation i Spend Around a Hour to FIX this. When you pretend wil be about 2 minutes to do WHY THEN YOU DONT DO IT BY YOURSELF and WHY yesterday YOU ASK ME HOW IM MODIFY EVERY FRAME? Everyone can chek out what we write in the Forum to see for what im talking about. To ask you what...? 1st When i Give you the Animation to use it all was fine But when i post it then this become a problem.?!?!?! I grab it? YOU ANIMATION SUCKS really Its bad Colour Frames SPeed OHHH MYY GOSHH i Stole your PATENT....
Second Im Not Very SURE about that you own Animation Because this HTC Quality Briliant i saw already in few STOCK LEO ROM`s The diference with your Animation is ONLY the FInal WINDOWS PHONE ....
So i can REMOVE IT and you will tell again that you OWN this Animation?
YOU OWN THE RIGHT FOR "HTC Quietly Brilliant" ??? So if i wana make diferent kind of Animation HTC Quietly Brilliant AGAIN i can`t because its your PATENT or what?
Everyone is FREE to make what he WANT and what he LIKE and When Someone can do it Better than you ITS FINE.
Ask for example the member scotia_rfc Who use Your Animation and them come and ask me to make it Whiter and Clear ask him The diference betwen this Animation i Upload and This that you have there.
I was more than a nice with you and also i explain you how to modify everysingle FRAME to make your Animation Lighter and Faster and good Looking at all....
When you pretend is all yours WHY YOU DIDNT do it by yourself? Everyone can TRY and CHEK Witch Animation is Better and CLEAR
IF XDA THINK that im not RIGHT OK im not a HUNKS like you and HERE is Comunity WE ALL TOGETHER TO SPEND AND SHARE.
So I was Enought NICE with you and i give you credits and Like everyone can See i write with BOLD that you provide the files for the Animation... Yesterday all was fine but NOW you can`t SLEEP because YOU CANT LIVE that my Animation is better than your Animation and Come here and Post.. Sh...ts like this!!!
I CANT SPEAK WITH PEOPLES LIKE THIS and I dont wana sound RUDE but you are TOTTALY A NUT

you guys are right, I removed this post.

A 'thanks' is enough, you're doing ike you made it yourself.
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Maybe is Not enought that i write your name.. you need to tell you SPECIAL thanks for the reson that i re-build the files myself? and like you can see i NEVER PRETEND THIS IS MY OWN FILES and i wrote that the Files for this Animation are providet by You witch is the TRUTH.. and TRUTH is also that your Animation was SLOW and BAD Colour so i re-build this by myself because i don`t like your Animation how look like on my Phone i cant understand where is the problem? I can`t make something that i like or what? When i re-build it for myself and i saw is better than your post i POST it and u know about that and i write your NAME with BOLD in the post because here may have other peoples like me who want Smoother Faster and nice looking Animation.
Yeah files... okay... i think it's not clear enough, it sounds like I only gave you the 'quietly brilliant' image and not more.
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This is the TRUTH i write Files because this is FILES.. that i get.
Completely different? Just do a compare between these and the ones attached on my thread, nearly exactly the same. Fact remains that you are using the complete animation I made which took more than 3 hours.
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This is NOT True.. From how long time you have this POST???? and When Clear the Animation and also don`t forget that i Upload the Files Now you have the same files.. OF COURSE you will say you made them.. then how u pretend that my Files are the same with your files when i Upload the Clear Animation 1st? and When you pretend you know almost everything and this is a job for 2 minutes WHY you don`t do it by yourself for 2 minutes and all will be happy me too and i will not do it by myself will just Download yours.
Because it takes 2 minutes to do it for ONE resolution. I have to make it for 4, and also the white ones. And I do not need to update it so many times because it's simply a waste of time.
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I speak for the same so u are telling right now that you can do all this 4 times 2 minutes each time = 8 minutes total + 2 minutes Upload = 10Minutes total Im asking you WHY then when all this is for 10 Minutes your Post is ONLINE from 6 DAYS not Minutes.
Then everything went fine, untill you made this thread.
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So everything was fine untill i upload the Animation.. witch mean when the peoples don`t have what to compare of course will not know with for sure do this is Good or its BAD..
But when this person who download the Faster Animation he saw the diference and now there have a problem because NOW he can see that this Animation is better.
you haven't explained me anything, I know how to modify every frame with photoshop but I was just wondering how to change it when you don't have the PSd file. I am not a noob, otherwise I coul have not been able to make this animation - which obviously many people like, downloaded more than 4000 times.
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Many Peoples Like with SURE 4000 Downloads but they don`t have what to compare so don`t tell me right now that the Peoples LOVE Grey PIXELS animation than FULL BLACK.
MY FALES are totally DIFERENT from your FALES if anyone download BOTH and compare will see the Diference then why u pretend its your FILES AT ALL?
If Someone Make a NOT WORKING CAR with Defect for example Mercedes SLK and then Other Person make the Same CAR Mercedes SLK to work perfect what is this? Can this person pretend WOW you took my car???? NO he can`t because he DIDN`T MAKE A CAR THAT WORK.
I WILL NOT COMMENT ANYMORE TOO this is the FACTS

Wow, you guys both need to grow up!
Hi tsalta and [ElCondor]
The fact of the matter is you are both posting modifications of material that has been copyrighted by other people (HTC and Microsoft). Neither of you could claim any kind of ownership over the images over which you are now squabbling.
Additionally, this is a forum where members post their work, making it public and while it is polite to provide credits/attribution (see my threads as an example), once you have posted something you have no control over how other members use it. If you have posted original material that is subject to copyright and/or a creative commons licence, and if you are earning enough, you can ask your lawyer to ask them to remove any material that might be "stolen". In this case, neither of you can steal something from the other when you have both in fact stolen the material from somebody else (as per first sentence above).
Finally, nobody wants to read your ridiculous arguement with each other so I suggest you continue via PM if at all.
Best wishes
andrew-in-woking

Wow, can't a moderator settle this?
Here's my opinion:
This situation seems to be similar to when someone "skins" a work originally created by another. From what I've seen on here, the person who enhanced the original work usually makes it clear that their work is only an ENHANCEMENT or MODIFICATION and includes a link to the original creator.
So I think it's only fair that tsalta edits his first post to make it more clear that his work is a modification and post a link to ElCondor's original post, which is at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=587867.
My opinion is only based on your exchanges and original threads...I have no idea what ElCondor had to do to create his work and what tsalta had to do to create his work, so my opinion could be wrong. I hope you guys can work it out.
EDIT: looks like andrew posted clearer information about these works while I was typing...

andrew-in-woking said:
Hi tsalta and [ElCondor]
The fact of the matter is you are both posting modifications of material that has been copyrighted by other people (HTC and Microsoft). Neither of you could claim any kind of ownership over the images over which you are now squabbling.
Additionally, this is a forum where members post their work, making it public and while it is polite to provide credits/attribution (see my threads as an example), once you have posted something you have no control over how other members use it. If you have posted original material that is subject to copyright and/or a creative commons licence, and if you are earning enough, you can ask your lawyer to ask them to remove any material that might be "stolen". In this case, neither of you can steal something from the other when you have both in fact stolen the material from somebody else (as per first sentence above).
Finally, nobody wants to read your ridiculous arguement with each other so I suggest you continue via PM if at all.
Best wishes
andrew-in-woking
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I Agree with you And everything you are saying i think the same way and for this reason we are in this forum.

goldsfool said:
Wow, can't a moderator settle this?
Here's my opinion:
This situation seems to be similar to when someone "skins" a work originally created by another. From what I've seen on here, the person who enhanced the original work usually makes it clear that their work is only an ENHANCEMENT or MODIFICATION and includes a link to the original creator.
So I think it's only fair that tsalta edits his first post to make it more clear that his work is a modification and post a link to ElCondor's original post, which is at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=587867.
My opinion is only based on your exchanges and original threads...I have no idea what ElCondor had to do to create his work and what tsalta had to do to create his work, so my opinion could be wrong. I hope you guys can work it out.
EDIT: looks like andrew posted clearer information about these works while I was typing...
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I Aree with you too and this is what im saying. The reason to don`t write that he made the Files is very simple because he really didn`t make the files that are uploaded here on this post.
Also i dont have any problem at all so like i say i made it for myself and then decide that i can share with other peoples who like it.
Anyway we are not kids here and i really think this is more than stupid for this Reason... The Moderators to remove this Thread and all to be fine.
All i want is to make better animaton like you can see i don`t win anything from this only headache and crazy conversation....

just a little bit explanation about the first idea & work from elcondor in your thread to skin htc stuff would be nice to him but guys ,i have the same thing in the past,just stop it and come back on topic,give the credits to elcondor and thanks for the work you also made,the best thing is to work togheter and not to fight on the same work
Moderator please clean up this thread

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just a little bit explanation about the first idea & work from elcondor in your thread to skin htc stuff would be nice to him but guys ,i have the same thing in the past,just stop it and come back on topic,give the credits to elcondor and thanks for the work you also made,the best thing is to work togheter and not to fight on the same work
Moderator please clean up this thread
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YES i want and mean the same i never pretend anything im just saying the facts so He Made the files and i saw it from him but i make them better and also i tell him about this and explain to him how to do it etc and he say Its Super he will edit the other files too and all was fine until the other day when he come and start to write in this Thread like i STOLE something...
Like andrew-in-woking we Both Stole something and here the 80% are stolen things if we think like this because we use corporate Logos and etc without official permission.
Also in this case we Are Both Right because The GIF Animation is Animation made from alot Images frame by frame.. so He made the Animation Its True but Its True also that This Animation is diferent from his because all 64 Frames are Edited not only one Image and on the final we Both are RIGHT and when all the Frames are diferent this is complate diferent animaton but i never pretend i do it by myself like everyone can see i write in the 1st post that He Provide the Files for that Animation and i write What exactly i to.. modify clear faster and thats it. No Need to fight

tsalta said:
YES i want and mean the same i never pretend anything im just saying the facts so He Made the files and i saw it from him but i make them better and also i tell him about this and explain to him how to do it etc and he say Its Super he will edit the other files too and all was fine until the other day when he come and start to write in this Thread like i STOLE something...
Like andrew-in-woking we Both Stole something and here the 80% are stolen things if we think like this because we use corporate Logos and etc without official permission.
Also in this case we Are Both Right because The GIF Animation is Animation made from alot Images frame by frame.. so He made the Animation Its True but Its True also that This Animation is diferent from his because all 64 Frames are Edited not only one Image and on the final we Both are RIGHT and when all the Frames are diferent this is complate diferent animaton but i never pretend i do it by myself like everyone can see i write in the 1st post that He Provide the Files for that Animation and i write What exactly i to.. modify clear faster and thats it. No Need to fight
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No problem you 2 have done good work

[Q] Totally Kill WinMo??

Is there a way to whip WinMo off the device and just run droid??
Yes droid has it's issues, but as long as I have wifi,gps and txting functions, I'm pretty much fine..lol
SOund wouldn't hurt but I think in the near future it will get fixed.
Any help??

as of now, no.
but i do got an idea that came to me the other day to make it a faster boot into wm so it wont stay there long. if it actually works, i dont know since i still like wm and dont feel like trying it out.
ok, here is what i thought of.
1. Install "HD Tweak" (google it or search xda)
2. Launch HD Tweak and go to section 12. startup (i beileve its what is called) and disable the startup animation and sound. and then close the program, if it ask you to restart DONT.
3. Go to settings and disable HTC Sense (or what ever your running) and have nothing checked on the boxes so its just pretty much the background as your home.
4. Go to file explorer (or what ever you use) and then go to the andboot file (or what ever you have it under) and create a shortcut and put the shortcut into the \Windows\Startup file
5. Restart your phone and hope it works.
what might also help is if your have a fast ROM that starts up on boot and if possible do a hard reset and dont install nothing so it will keep a fast speed and maybe boot. then follow the steps mentioned above.
just remember that this is just an idea so i dont know if this would actually work or if anything would happen to your phone. if it does work and you want to use wm again then just take out your sd card so the shortcut to haret wont work and wm should continue from there.

lilchicano said:
as of now, no.
but i do got an idea that came to me the other day to make it a faster boot into wm so it wont stay there long. if it actually works, i dont know since i still like wm and dont feel like trying it out.
ok, here is what i thought of.
1. Install "HD Tweak" (google it or search xda)
2. Launch HD Tweak and go to section 12. startup (i beileve its what is called) and disable the startup animation and sound. and then close the program, if it ask you to restart DONT.
3. Go to settings and disable HTC Sense (or what ever your running) and have nothing checked on the boxes so its just pretty much the background as your home.
4. Go to file explorer (or what ever you use) and then go to the andboot file (or what ever you have it under) and create a shortcut and put the shortcut into the \Windows\Startup file
5. Restart your phone and hope it works.
what might also help is if your have a fast ROM that starts up on boot and if possible do a hard reset and dont install nothing so it will keep a fast speed and maybe boot. then follow the steps mentioned above.
just remember that this is just an idea so i dont know if this would actually work or if anything would happen to your phone. if it does work and you want to use wm again then just take out your sd card so the shortcut to haret wont work and wm should continue from there.
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So this is to boot Android without booting into WinMo??
Looks interesting.
Gotta work in a bit and really don't have time to experiment right now but I will try it out and see what happens. Could it make me a new paperweight by chance??
Edit: Just did it...waiting for boot....HTC screen.....kk..Booted into WinMo but with Haret running...idk..Here's some shots
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If the shots arrnt clear enough I can explain em..lol
But yea...I followed the directions and got that..lol
I'm running the Energy rom..Theres like 5 things in my startup folder..should I take em all out and just leave Haret in?? And also, wouldn't Haret need a way to get directed to the kernel and stuff for droid?? Also..Was I supposed to add the Haret.exe file???? I looked for the andboot folder and I didn't add it to my sd card..All my files for droid were inside it and I just copied and pasted all of em out to my SD card.
This is interesting..Maybe we should start tinkering..lol

haha well you almost had the idea but you messed up. you werent supposed to copy the haret itself but where ever you have it located long click it and maybe in the normal file explorer it lets you create a shortcut (dont remember since i installed a cab called file explorer extension which gives it more options). with that short cut, move it over to the startup folder. and just in case make a copy of your startup.txt and rename the copy default.txt so if the start up ever ends up getting corrupted then you can just click on the run button.
but my theory shouldnt make your phone into a paperweight because all your really doing is just disabling your home to plain and adding a shortcut, nothing could make it a paperweight in general but haret still does have a verrrrryyyy little chance to make something go wrong which you should already know.
but my way doesnt kick wm out since it still needs to boot up to see the haret shortcut in the startup folder. just makes it quicker to boot into android on alot faster

Don't want winmo? Buy a driod phone. I don't think we will ever have sound on out Tilt2 with andriod.

some of us tried nand boot on the tp2. You can read on ppcgeeks.

It can and will be done

lot of changes to do to the kernel but yea.. it will be done.

If all goes well I should have one of these devices to test and hack on. Once I do I'll try my best to get android flashed to nand. How far is along is the android port for this phone? I'm getting the CDMA Sprint variant for very cheap.

[ACL] said:
lot of changes to do to the kernel but yea.. it will be done.
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But only if Android is deemed useable enough for day to day use I guess. The main problem is that almost all the devs have moved to HD2 android development, so apart from the in call volume fix we haven't seen a new functionality for at least 3 months (GPS), and no major breakthrough for ages. The only ones actively developing for TP(2)/TD(2) are working on the new topaz board and getting it to run on the Xperia IMHO and some dudes that reefermatters is in contact with, although reef hasn't posted an update from them for 2 weeks now
I really hope android will run smoothly on the TP2, but honestly I think we will never get it to work properly
Let's hope for a miracle soon

Star-Lite said:
But only if Android is deemed useable enough for day to day use I guess. The main problem is that almost all the devs have moved to HD2 android development, so apart from the in call volume fix we haven't seen a new functionality for at least 3 months (GPS), and no major breakthrough for ages. The only ones actively developing for TP(2)/TD(2) are working on the new topaz board and getting it to run on the Xperia IMHO and some dudes that reefermatters is in contact with, although reef hasn't posted an update from them for 2 weeks now
I really hope android will run smoothly on the TP2, but honestly I think we will never get it to work properly
Let's hope for a miracle soon
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you are preaching to the choir my friend. I'm one of the devs working on the tp2. Jonpry is still attacking sound and phh lending a hand as well. Fyi this is really nothing to do with android. All we do is kernel dev.

zenulator said:
If all goes well I should have one of these devices to test and hack on. Once I do I'll try my best to get android flashed to nand. How far is along is the android port for this phone? I'm getting the CDMA Sprint variant for very cheap.
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Right now we are craping out during the usb init. So we will be testing a custom kernel soon. I'm reading up on the diamond boards since they seem to have gone over all of this.

[ACL] said:
you are preaching to the choir my friend. I'm one of the devs working on the tp2. Jonpry is still attacking sound and phh lending a hand as well. Fyi this is really nothing to do with android. All we do is kernel dev.
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I hope your right, I would REALLY like to run android full time
And if theres anything I can help with to get anything working, I would love to!

[ACL] said:
you are preaching to the choir my friend. I'm one of the devs working on the tp2. Jonpry is still attacking sound and phh lending a hand as well. Fyi this is really nothing to do with android. All we do is kernel dev.
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Where could one take a look at the source for the kernel. I've been meaning to dive in and see if I could lend any assistance for a while. I figure I'm going to be stuck with the TP2 for a while (sprint user on sero, so no chance to get an evo) - so figure I should put some of my coding abilities to good use and give back some to those who've helped open my eyes to Android

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Where could one take a look at the source for the kernel. I've been meaning to dive in and see if I could lend any assistance for a while. I figure I'm going to be stuck with the TP2 for a while (sprint user on sero, so no chance to get an evo) - so figure I should put some of my coding abilities to good use and give back some to those who've helped open my eyes to Android
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go to htc-linux.org for the wiki.
The kernel is available
http://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm

[ACL] said:
go to htc-linux.org for the wiki.
The kernel is available
http://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm
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Thanks, going to dive in tonight. Hopefully I can contribute something. Thanks again to all those responsible for the current state that Android is in on the TP2.

a lot of progress tonight. We are slowly choking winmo to death with each line of code added

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a lot of progress tonight. We are slowly choking winmo to death with each line of code added
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[ACL] for President!!!

[ACL] said:
a lot of progress tonight. We are slowly choking winmo to death with each line of code added
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\o/
What would be the best place to look foor updates on whats being worked on apart to read all the IRC logs every day?

Star-Lite said:
\o/
What would be the best place to look foor updates on whats being worked on apart to read all the IRC logs every day?
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PPCG for now. We have a thread there. I'll make a buzz once we see android come up. Right no its too early to celebrate.

[Q] Themeing Help (Gimp problems)

I am having problems with gimp.
I can pull a png out of apk and replace it without editing and apk will install.
I pull png out of apk, open with gimp and save (without any actual editing) and apk WONT install.
So I have a good idea something is going wrong when I save the png. I have tried a variation of save settings (but not all). I've read gimp defaults should be fine, but this is not the case.
I have themed in the past and never encountered any problems of this sort..This was always the easy part!
Advice anyone?
edit: from comparing 2 images. one extracted, opened, and saved and one extracted there is a 50 byte difference. Although this might not be important

is it one of those .9.pngs that are supposed to stretch or whatever?

No. Standard png. I've tried the same process with photoshop and got the same results. I'm gonna try Linux and see if that fixes my problems

What exactly are you trying to edit? Are you editing an image form a rom? Or are you trying to edit something from a third party program?

Logcat says something like "no certificates at entry raw-hdpi/image-name.png"... if that's useful for anyone. I did a thorough search but couldn't find anything that helped much.
@N-force, it's a third party app that I have successfully themed many times on my old computer (windows 7 32b).
I'm starting to wonder if it doesn't have something to do my windows 7 64b OS. To test this hypothesis I tried the entire process in Linux, but this didn't work either. This could be flawed however because I used wubi to install a 64b version of Ubuntu. I should probably retry with a live version of Linux.
Also I failed installing apk themed from my brothers computer, which has the same OS as mine.
Anyone else had problems themeing on 64 bit OS?
Edit: I've successfully edited the apk's smali and recompiled. It's just these damn PNGs

Make sure you resign the apk after editing the pngs.
Sent from my pimped out phone

I haven't signed the apk after I just dropped edited PNGs into 7zip; but I have decompiled, switched out PNGs, recompiled, and signed. This gave me same end result. I'll try sign apk after 7zip modification, but I'm skeptical. Thanks for the advice tho, I'll let you know if it's the ticket

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I haven't signed the apk after I just dropped edited PNGs into 7zip; but I have decompiled, switched out PNGs, recompiled, and signed. This gave me same end result. I'll try sign apk after 7zip modification, but I'm skeptical. Thanks for the advice tho, I'll let you know if it's the ticket
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ok. are you deleting the png from the apk before adding your modded one?
if not then you are doing it right.
is this an apk from market or from system?

Hey synisterwolf, good to hear from you. I definitely just replaced old PNGs when I drop them into 7zip, which is what I've always done. When I was monkeying around with decompiling and recompiling I think I just replaced old PNGs. May have deleted them though.
It's shapewriter. Not really from market anymore but not a system. Me and my brother (Funkencool) made dozens of themes for it a couple summers ago. Then I got busy for awhile and bought a new computer and now nothing works.
I got the tracer ICS blue, recompiled, signed, installed. It's purely PNG problem
Would it help if I uploaded one of these broken APKs...I got more than enough on my desktop
Edit: Not one .9 in the entire APK

Yeah. Some none system apks are signed with a different key. If the 7zip trick doesn't work you will need to deconpile it once. Then resign it. Then you will be able to do the trick from there on out.
Upload the file if the decompile trick doesn't work. Ill look at it for you.
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Another thing to add is once decompiled, delete the public.XML the one that gives the id's to the png. Apk tool should give them new keys.
Sent from my sexy assistant. (AMOLED HTC Incredible)

Didn't quite get her for me...here's my steps
1)decompile
2)delete res/values/public.xml
3)recompile (system apk? N)
4)sign
This apk installed fine and worked...except one weird thing I noticed is the keyboard works fine, but the cute little instructions you get when clicking the app in the app drawer would cause a force close.
5)replace qwerty.png by dropping it into apk (res/raw-hdpi) (7zip)
Install fails
here is my result as of step 4
here is my result as of step 5
Edit: After talking to my bro (funkencool) tonight I'm getting real convinced it's OS related. We have the identical PB cracked OS and both are encountering this same issue (with much different hardware specs).I know it doesn't seem logical but it doesn't seem to be happening to anyone else. I'm just hitting my head against a wall now. By the way thanks for the help Synisterwolf, I know your a master of the trade. Next I'll try all editing on a live version of linux, and if that doesn't work...I don't know
Edit2: Or like N-forced said, resign apk after the nifty 7zip drop... regular PNGs have never been an issue... I can edit smali and install but PNGs ruin everything, I dont get it

luke1987 said:
Didn't quite get her for me...here's my steps
1)decompile
2)delete res/values/public.xml
3)recompile (system apk? N)
4)sign
This apk installed fine and worked...except one weird thing I noticed is the keyboard works fine, but the cute little instructions you get when clicking the app in the app drawer would cause a force close.
5)replace qwerty.png by dropping it into apk (res/raw-hdpi) (7zip)
Install fails
here is my result as of step 4
here is my result as of step 5
Edit: After talking to my bro (funkencool) tonight I'm getting real convinced it's OS related. We have the identical PB cracked OS and both are encountering this same issue (with much different hardware specs).I know it doesn't seem logical but it doesn't seem to be happening to anyone else. I'm just hitting my head against a wall now. By the way thanks for the help Synisterwolf, I know your a master of the trade. Next I'll try all editing on a live version of linux, and if that doesn't work...I don't know
Edit2: Or like N-forced said, resign apk after the nifty 7zip drop... regular PNGs have never been an issue... I can edit smali and install but PNGs ruin everything, I dont get it
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dont hate me. but it worked for me. decompile replace the png compile and sign.
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i am getting an fc when trying to go into settings. dont know what is causing that. i need my home pc to figure that out
Fixed the FC problem. so use mine and try to change a png with 7zip. it should be good to go for you.
Edit: nvm fc is back after a reboot.
Going to try without the tracer edit. Maybe that's the cause.
what tools are you using to decompile the apk?

also i was wondering if you would share how you edited the tracer for another memeber.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1438135
we couldnt figure that out for the life of us. if you could do that. that would be most excellent.
edit: looks like your brother already did. -_- to early here i need coffee.

ok so this is a fresh shapewriter with only the png change. no FC or anything. works just fine. take this and try your tracer edit. let me know what you come up with.

Well I kinda feel like a fool after all the struggling, but you got me thru it synister, thanks alot. I was using apk manager, but this time around I used MultiTool. I must have been deleting the images before replacing and compiling last time, or something. I gave up on 7zip trick. But here's what I have so far. I still need to fine tune.
ICSshapewriter

BTW, the tracer color is in SWI_KeyboardViewTrace.smali ... we were stuck with red green or blue for awhile, but funkencool had a stroke of genius and added a few variables to give us any color we want.

luke1987 said:
Well I kinda feel like a fool after all the struggling, but you got me thru it synister, thanks alot. I was using apk manager, but this time around I used MultiTool. I must have been deleting the images before replacing and compiling last time, or something. I gave up on 7zip trick. But here's what I have so far. I still need to fine tune.
ICSshapewriter
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i was using apk manager for the png swap. do you get an fc when going into settings?

Seems to be running fine so far. Rebooted once

luke1987 said:
Seems to be running fine so far. Rebooted once
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wonder what i did to break it lol but anyways im glad you got it working.

Noticed this today, gonna take some serious digging to find the culprit. Atleast the tracer was half identifiable by the filename. I don't know what you'd call this, or even why it happens. I'll find her though
Edit: Think I found where key (character) color and that green highlight are defined. Wish I didn't have a mountain of homework to start so I could test!

New to modifying files, so need some assistance and advice

I will start off saying I am new to this as the title , so I will probably ask a lot of redundant questions and noobie questions, I hope that's ok.
What I want to do (for now):
I am attempting to do is modify the systemui.apk file. I would think that would be a fairly easy task, but with my VERY limited knowlege of things I'm not sure.
The file has a lot of icons for customizability, but I want to add some of my own, or rather this phones icons(samung epic 4g) default icons. I have the icons I grabbed from a stock rom, and saved them.
I have the toggles, and battery icons, which are what I want to add into the systemui.apk. Iwill probably call it something like Samsung default, since default name is already taken.
So all that said, how easy would it be for me, someone who has never even attempted this before, but has a small amount of knowledge of what stuff is, ie: difference between odex and deodex, where the files are located at, etc?
Stuff like what file/files to edit, what to put in the xml files as in what line coding or whatever they call it. Stuff like that.
I'm very simple in nature, so if there is a way to do what I want to do, please direct me in the right direction, and please, keep it simple if possible.
I do realize there are tutorials about how to theme and how to make or edit a systemui file but I can't seem to find a more specific way/thread to do what I want to do, not that I have found anyways.
My guess is I will have to edit some xml files and add some lines, I just an not sure what exactly to put in those lines, or what files to edit.

First of all: wrong section - this belongs to Q&A.
About modifying APKs, I'm also not much familiar, but I believe that apktool and those GUI tools that includes it can be fairly helpful. I personally use APKChanger to do all my APK-related mods.
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AndyYan said:
First of all: wrong section - this belongs to Q&A.
About modifying APKs, I'm also not much familiar, but I believe that apktool and those GUI tools that includes it can be fairly helpful. I personally use APKChanger to do all my APK-related mods.
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Awesome it looks like a good start, I will give it a go, and report back.
Hope this works, as I am not really doing much to the systemUI file, all I am doing is adding in, what's not there, so the rest can stay in tact, just I want to add some preferred icons/png files I have on hand already. I'm not diescting to make a rom or anything, so I can't see this as being really hard thing to do.....for those that have done it could probably do this in about 5 mins work without breaking a sweat....me however it seems it's takeing awhile lol.

easyrider77 said:
Awesome it looks like a good start, I will give it a go, and report back.
Hope this works, as I am not really doing much to the systemUI file, all I am doing is adding in, what's not there, so the rest can stay in tact, just I want to add some preferred icons/png files I have on hand already. I'm not diescting to make a rom or anything, so I can't see this as being really hard thing to do.....for those that have done it could probably do this in about 5 mins work without breaking a sweat....me however it seems it's takeing awhile lol.
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Very cool program, thanyou for the info. I kinda messed around with it a bit, and it's vvery nice for those not so smart at heart people like me.
I still have a snag though. I know where the icons are, I'm just not sure how to activate them via the like settings and such.
Take the battery mod within 3mini for example, you open 3minit, and under the battery part it you select it and it has a bunch of icons you can pick, but the stock ones aren't there. I am wanting to add stock icons, which are in the res/label-dhpi folder, (I think that's what it's called), but it's the folder that has the icons in it. Now, to access those icons, you have xml file you have to point to to tell it to actually see the icons in said folder, via a code line as I call it.
There is my problem, I am not sure really WHAT code line to put in said xml file/files, so I'm running into a wall.
So I can extract/decompile the apk file fine, and I have a folder/files with some more folders and files under that. I have looked at the stuff but since I'm not a programmer at all, and not to get off on another rabit trail here, but I cannot even do simple plain html....yes I know it's a text thing, but if you don't understand the if's and waits and the language of it all, well it might as well be german.
People always say "what's the problem, it's easy" well I suppose it is, if you are savvy to that stuff, but for those that have a hard time with one thing, it comes oh so simple for another, but it doesn't mean someone is stupid, it just means it's not their thing. Some atre meant to be some things, some are not. Not everyone is meant to be a doctor, yet some are because they understand those sorts of things better.
Anyways, I am sorry for trailing off, in short I am saying if you have a hard time with what I call coding, and yes it is a coding in some form, just as html is, even though it's still text, it's still a code that tells things what to do, IE: code
In short, I am nt sure what file/files to edit,. and even then I am not sure what lines to put in them.
Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2032614 is a good example of what I mean. While I appreciate this persons hard work and efforts, people like me it may as well be written in a foreign language of sorts, because while I understand editing a certain file, and I get the concept of CODE: that's where I end up getting lost. I have opened the said xml file, and see the code, but when they say code, well I have to ask things like what line to I edit, where do I cut/paste the lines in that post to, do I delete another line and replace it with that code, etc..etc..
I in NO way am trying to trash people for their posts and efforts, so I hope it's not taken that way, I just sometimes have to be drawn a picture for things, like a child. As hard as I might try, I just am not grasping what to do after the point of opening the file and editing it.
I suppose I will just give up this quest I have for what I want to do, unless I fin somone kind enough, and patient enough to go a little further into explanation of what I need to do to further go on. it can be hard for some people, especially if you are a programmer to explain a little more in depth about what a person needs to do, I have friends that have that mind set, and they to get irritated at people like me .....I guess it is what it is.
Thanks again for the info, I appreciate all that xda and the people here do, and all thier time and effort towards the mods.

Well I can't provide further help then... My ability stops at making navigation bar mods which only involves modifying 5 lines of xml. Good luck with learning from scratch :beer:
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