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International HOX HTC Service for USA awareness.

Greets all,
Just wanted to make some people aware in case no one wasnt about the HTC support with has left a extremely bad taste. Let me explain in short:
I bought the HOX international version and I live in the US, I wanted the quad core instead of the dual core. Long story short the screen got smashed cause I had lost my balance, so I called HTC and wanted to send it to them to replace the screen instead of me doing it. Mind you it has a 1 year warranty. So they took my info and then gave me an RMA to send it off, so far no problem. I packed up the phone sent it off to them and for a month I kept hearing when I would check up by calling, "we are waiting for the part to ship". I figured how hard is it to get a screen for their own phone. Well I got the phone call today and this is what they tell me:
We cant repair your phone because its an international phone based off the UK, and you are in the US, and because of the ITC court ruling in favor of Apple, we are not allowed to repair and send you back your phone. We have two options we can provide for you: 1) Replace the phone with a US ATT version unlocked, 2) or we can send the phone back to you unrepaired.
I told them why would I want a sub-version of the HOX with a dual core when I bought a quad core. I told them I'll buy the screen and send it to them and they can fix it, they said no they couldnt do that. So I told them, so your telling me that I have to buy the screen, replace it myself, which then voids my warranty instantly because I repaired it myself? They said basically yes.
So now I have to go find a complete screen replacement for the International HOX, replace it myself, and basically kill my warranty thanks to a BS ruling in favor of Apple. I cant believe instead of making a customer happy which was going to Pay for the repair, they wont touch it. I would have thought that it would be they couldnt sell the phone or something, not repair it!
So I would suggest to people who have the international phone in the US to beware of HTC, seems they wont fix the phone if its in the US.

It's always been like this with International phones. Warranties aren't valid in the U.S.. This is why you purchase 3rd party coverage like SquareTrade.
And, if you look near you, I am sure you can find cell phone shops that can repair your screen for well under $100. We have them here in Delaware.

AngelDeath said:
Greets all,
Just wanted to make some people aware in case no one wasnt about the HTC support with has left a extremely bad taste. Let me explain in short:
I bought the HOX international version and I live in the US, I wanted the quad core instead of the dual core. Long story short the screen got smashed cause I had lost my balance, so I called HTC and wanted to send it to them to replace the screen instead of me doing it. Mind you it has a 1 year warranty. So they took my info and then gave me an RMA to send it off, so far no problem. I packed up the phone sent it off to them and for a month I kept hearing when I would check up by calling, "we are waiting for the part to ship". I figured how hard is it to get a screen for their own phone. Well I got the phone call today and this is what they tell me:
We cant repair your phone because its an international phone based off the UK, and you are in the US, and because of the ITC court ruling in favor of Apple, we are not allowed to repair and send you back your phone. We have two options we can provide for you: 1) Replace the phone with a US ATT version unlocked, 2) or we can send the phone back to you unrepaired.
I told them why would I want a sub-version of the HOX with a dual core when I bought a quad core. I told them I'll buy the screen and send it to them and they can fix it, they said no they couldnt do that. So I told them, so your telling me that I have to buy the screen, replace it myself, which then voids my warranty instantly because I repaired it myself? They said basically yes.
So now I have to go find a complete screen replacement for the International HOX, replace it myself, and basically kill my warranty thanks to a BS ruling in favor of Apple. I cant believe instead of making a customer happy which was going to Pay for the repair, they wont touch it. I would have thought that it would be they couldnt sell the phone or something, not repair it!
So I would suggest to people who have the international phone in the US to beware of HTC, seems they wont fix the phone if its in the US.
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Blame Apple. Sounds like HTC is jammed up by a court decision, not because they want to piss you off.

Before the rage begins, I think offering to swap it with an ATT unit was a really good gesture. HTC US deal with the ATT model, and it makes sense that's what they offer!

Baldilocks said:
It's always been like this with International phones. Warranties aren't valid in the U.S.. This is why you purchase 3rd party coverage like SquareTrade.
And, if you look near you, I am sure you can find cell phone shops that can repair your screen for well under $100. We have them here in Delaware.
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That isn't entirely true. HTC has a global warranty so it doesn't matter which country you are in.
blackalice said:
Before the rage begins, I think offering to swap it with an ATT unit was a really good gesture. HTC US deal with the ATT model, and it makes sense that's what they offer!
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I thought it was better than them just telling him that he was completely screwed. Sure it isn't the same phone but in some circumstances it is better than no phone.

The problem here is its not a warranty issue, this is a out of warranty repair, this is like buying a BMW over seas, bringing it here and then something goes wrong and you needed it fixed, BMW here says sorry we cant touch it cause Ford wont allow it. A global warranty or even a out of warranty repair shouldnt be held subject to Crapple. I understand they cant offer the phone here in the states, but repairing? you got to be kidding!
Plus I'm not out of a phone, I have a second HOX international I got it after this one got smashed. But now I have to fix the white one when it comes in and fix it myself, but its wrong that my fixing it voids all warranties, I'd even accept if it was a warranty repair and it couldnt be fixed and they offered the US version as an alternative dur to the restrictions, but this is like going to a service repair shop and they wont fix it. It's BS.

Baldilocks said:
It's always been like this with International phones. Warranties aren't valid in the U.S.
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Actually, up until the Apple litigation, they did repair international phones in the U.S. (unlike Samsung). The problem is that they aren't permitted to reload the international s/w here in the U.S. because it contains features that have been banned. The U.S. XL for example doesn't have the traditional Android app picker; it's been replaced by a tabled menu. Anyone importing an international phone in to the U.S. really needs to fully investigate the down sides before making a purchase. And HTC U.S. deserves kudos for offering a One XL as replacement for a phone not even purchased in the U.S.
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If you want to keep the tegra one x i suggest sending it to a friend/family member in europe and get them to get it repaired.

Or, like I suggested, take it to a local cell phone repair shop. They can fix it fairly quickly, usually while you wait.

I'm confused why you are unhappy with HTC. You bought a phone from them and they offered you international warranty. In the meanwhile, the law of the land changed and the warranty is invalidated as a result. HTC recognizes this and offers you something within the purview of the law because you are their customer and want to keep you as their customer. I agree that this is actually a thumbs up for HTC to offer you an One XL in exchange for something which is not at all their fault.
Also you prolly are just another one caught up in the whole Apple, Samsung, HTC, etc patent-licensing bit and if the judgement was put out a little later, HTC would have repaired the phone. HTC warranty also states that you open the hardware without us being involved, we ain't gonna touch it, which IMHO is fair. Somebody buys my product, messes up the internals, bring it back to me to fix for free (or something close). So i do, since i promised on good faith and next thing i know, everybody around here doing exchanges.
The best thing is to send it outside the US where it can be fixed, hell, send it to India and i'll send it in for fixing and ship it back to you when its done. Or do what Baldilocks^^^ just suggested.

Baldilocks said:
Or, like I suggested, take it to a local cell phone repair shop. They can fix it fairly quickly, usually while you wait.
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akhileshp said:
The best thing is to send it outside the US where it can be fixed, hell, send it to India and i'll send it in for fixing and ship it back to you when its done. Or do what Baldilocks^^^ just suggested.
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won't both these methods still invalidate the warranty though?

But, it will be fixed.

Baldilocks said:
Or, like I suggested, take it to a local cell phone repair shop. They can fix it fairly quickly, usually while you wait.
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Got the name of the place in Deleware? And the problem with local shops is not all of them know what they are doing even if they say they do, remember alot just see dollar signs, so its hard to find a shop that actually knows what they are doing. Plus this being an international version, the other problem is finding the right screen that fits and is original, most will just take the cheapest they find and charge you double plus labor.
akhileshp said:
I'm confused why you are unhappy with HTC. You bought a phone from them and they offered you international warranty. In the meanwhile, the law of the land changed and the warranty is invalidated as a result. HTC recognizes this and offers you something within the purview of the law because you are their customer and want to keep you as their customer. I agree that this is actually a thumbs up for HTC to offer you an One XL in exchange for something which is not at all their fault.
Also you prolly are just another one caught up in the whole Apple, Samsung, HTC, etc patent-licensing bit and if the judgement was put out a little later, HTC would have repaired the phone. HTC warranty also states that you open the hardware without us being involved, we ain't gonna touch it, which IMHO is fair. Somebody buys my product, messes up the internals, bring it back to me to fix for free (or something close). So i do, since i promised on good faith and next thing i know, everybody around here doing exchanges.
The best thing is to send it outside the US where it can be fixed, hell, send it to India and i'll send it in for fixing and ship it back to you when its done. Or do what Baldilocks^^^ just suggested.
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The problem here is very simple, again I understand about not selling the phone in the states based on the ruling, but when you already OWN the phone whether its before the ruling or after, should NOT apply to repairs. Hence my example of BMW and Ford. Repairs of a phone isnt the same thing as buying or HTC attempting to sell the phone in the US defying the ruling. Its basic customer support and relations.
Its the same for example, you unlock the bootloader and leave the stock rom, or you flash a custom rom, then you break your screen, you call HTC for an out of warranty repair, and they tell you they cant fix it cause you unlocked the bootloader when the cracked screen has nothing to do with the unlocked bootloader. Or if there is a know defect in the phone and they wont fix it because of the ruling, or cause its unlocked. Once a phone is purchased the ruling should have no effect or implications to repairs, and I havent read the ruling, but I would be HIGHLY surprised if the ruling did include repairs, I can almost guarantee the ruling has to do with selling in the states.
lawrence750 said:
won't both these methods still invalidate the warranty though?
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Sending it to someone outside of the US and having them call HTC for repair no will not void the warranty, because you are having HTC do the repairs. Opening it yourself and doing the repair yes will. But when you dont know anyone overseas to send it to you have no choice, its either have a useless phone, or fix it yourself, and how many are going to let a $550 phone thats fairly new sit that way?
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But, it will be fixed.
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Agreed.

https://plus.google.com/112648899669966964704/about?gl=us&hl=en
There is a link to their Google+ page. Complete with address and phone number.

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You sent your "not for USA, not sold in USA" phone for an OUT of WARRANTY repair, yet they offered you an ATT replacement because of Legal issues. That is called GREAT customer service!
By the way, read the warranty booklet, it clearly states that warranty is applicable only in countries where the phone is sold in, and the Tegra3 HOX is NOT sold in USA.
If you still want to repair it through HTC, check from where you baught the phone, many UK online retailers (not sure of other EU) will gladly handle the repair of the phones they sell through HTC.

Warranty Claim or Pay to Repair in the U.S.? Please help me. (SDS involved)

Hello people!
Looks like I might have become the first in the U.S. to experience the SDS issue, at least among those who attend this forum regularly? Because I searched and searched, read and read, and could not find a single sign that anyone in the U.S. has experienced this SDS issue and filed a warranty claim to someone/somewhere. I contacted Samsung USA and they said this device is not supported and they're not trained to provide the support to me, and directed me to their international website... I had not luck with their international website either, so I contacted Amazon seller who I bought my N7100 from. And they have not replied in the past couple days...
So I wanted to see if anyone here has imported his/her n7100 into the U.S. and happened to encounter any issue with the phone and successfully filed warranty claim against Samsung. If so, how can that be done?
Worst case scenario, I pay to repair n7100 in the U.S., who should I go to? Or do I have to send the phone overseas either way?
Many thanks in advance.

bump for help please :crying:

I did not import my phone, I got it from Sprint, BUT..................given the choice, ship it back to Korea for Warranty!!! Have you ever a conversation with repair tech's in most mobile shops here??? And even with TEP they will give you every excuse how YOU messed it up or dropped and and your claim is denied.
If you send it back and likely they will get you someone that actually BUILDS the note's, original part, or give you a brand new (not referb) Note!!
This is JMO! Good Luck!!

Thanks for your reply. However, who would I contact before I ship it to Korea? I'd guess I'll have to have Samsung open an RMA for me or something?

Hi
if you have N7100 SDS,,Usually You Need Replace eMMC....
I Have and i can replace eMMC ,,,Please Read :http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/9306319-post324.html
i'm product manager on RIFF-Jtag Box and I can do it,,,Plz Contact Me Via eMail or Sonork
[email protected]
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Thanks for the info. How much do you charge for the repair though? Also, where am I gonna send it to? Your location shown under your name or did you implicate (if you implicated at all) that you have stores in the U.S.?

How long have you had the phone? Is it within 30-day return period? For return/replacement reasons I only buy items from Amazon that are Prime Eligible even if the non-Prime ones are dirt cheap.

clearday said:
How long have you had the phone? Is it within 30-day return period? For return/replacement reasons I only buy items from Amazon that are Prime Eligible even if the non-Prime ones are dirt cheap.
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I wish! :crying: I've had it for well over 5 months. It wasn't prime even tho I do have prime membership, because at the time I bought it, only ones available are from all kinds of importers/sellers that sell THRU amazon. Even though it's prime (fulfilled by Amazon), im not sure if it's Amazon that you can contact for warranty claim after 5 months, because it is not sold by Amazon but only "fulfilled".
It's unlucky to say the least. It is essentially "mistake by mistakes" made by me. I shouldn't have assumed that there should be no issue like SDS on an Samsung device; I shouldn't have assumed that if something happens, it's easy as a breeze to just call Samsung UK to get things fixed; I shouldn't have assumed that the seller I chose on Amazon is willing to help me if Samsung UK and Samsung USA kicks me back n forth; etc etc...
Bad assumptions, bad luck.
If anyone had any experience with this, please please help me :good:. I swear I'm not gonna be so trusting next time. I will buy from a seller that's known to be helpful with their customers' warranty claim, i.e., expansys. I would even buy a carrier subsidized phone just for the sake of the proper support. I thought the worst case with this dead phone for me was to pay high bills to fix it and sell it to cover partial cost, but now it looks like the worse case is that I don't know where to go to fix it...

cswithxda said:
I wish! :crying: I've had it for well over 5 months. It wasn't prime even tho I do have prime membership, because at the time I bought it, only ones available are from all kinds of importers/sellers that sell THRU amazon. Even though it's prime (fulfilled by Amazon), im not sure if it's Amazon that you can contact for warranty claim after 5 months, because it is not sold by Amazon but only "fulfilled".
It's unlucky to say the least. It is essentially "mistake by mistakes" made by me. I shouldn't have assumed that there should be no issue like SDS on an Samsung device; I shouldn't have assumed that if something happens, it's easy as a breeze to just call Samsung UK to get things fixed; I shouldn't have assumed that the seller I chose on Amazon is willing to help me if Samsung UK and Samsung USA kicks me back n forth; etc etc...
Bad assumptions, bad luck.
If anyone had any experience with this, please please help me :good:. I swear I'm not gonna be so trusting next time. I will buy from a seller that's known to be helpful with their customers' warranty claim, i.e., expansys. I would even buy a carrier subsidized phone just for the sake of the proper support. I thought the worst case with this dead phone for me was to pay high bills to fix it and sell it to cover partial cost, but now it looks like the worse case is that I don't know where to go to fix it...
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Sorry about the warranty bro. By the way, I've successfully returned items to sellers without problems even when it was only fulfilled by amazon. One instance was an order of 750gb seagate xt HD, to which I received a 60gb HD instead. Contacted the seller, got no response, contacted Amazon and I was immediately issued an RMA.
As far as requesting support from warranty, knock on wood, I haven't such experience yet with items purchased from amazon.
Good luck man, hopefully someone can help you in this forum.

clearday said:
Sorry about the warranty bro. By the way, I've successfully returned items to sellers without problems even when it was only fulfilled by amazon. One instance was an order of 750gb seagate xt HD, to which I received a 60gb HD instead. Contacted the seller, got no response, contacted Amazon and I was immediately issued an RMA.
As far as requesting support from warranty, knock on wood, I haven't such experience yet with items purchased from amazon.
Good luck man, hopefully someone can help you in this forum.
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Thanks for the kind words man. If you have a note 2 just remember to update whenever it's possible and avoid ending up like me hah...

Hey cswithxda, I have the same situation. Bought a N7100 from Amazon a few months ago (around November) and everything was fine until this afternoon when it was just off. Tried turning it on but I'm just getting the dim red light that flashes slowly when I press the power button. Charging light is off and the phone appears absolutely dead.
A while ago I checked to see if I have a vulnerable chip, and it was positive.
Samsung's live chat said they don't support international products.
I might go to one of those repair places tomorrow to see if they can diagnose the phone. Then I might see if Samsung USA will even look at it, or else I might send it to UK or Korea?
What have you done since your phone suffered from the SDS?

Gordon. said:
Hey cswithxda, I have the same situation. Bought a N7100 from Amazon a few months ago (around November) and everything was fine until this afternoon when it was just off. Tried turning it on but I'm just getting the dim red light that flashes slowly when I press the power button. Charging light is off and the phone appears absolutely dead.
A while ago I checked to see if I have a vulnerable chip, and it was positive.
Samsung's live chat said they don't support international products.
I might go to one of those repair places tomorrow to see if they can diagnose the phone. Then I might see if Samsung USA will even look at it, or else I might send it to UK or Korea?
What have you done since your phone suffered from the SDS?
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Sorry about your unlucky situation.
By repair places, do you mean Samsung support center or something? I talked to Samsung USA also and they wouldn't even talk to me if I tell them the model number (n7100). So I really don't know where I should go now. I contacted original seller and the help was minimal (telling me to contact Samsung).
I would like to send it to either UK or Korea, as long as it can be repaired, or even better, if it can be repaired under warranty.
Let me know what you find out with repair places.
Also, I did not know about SDS after my phone's dead. So I had been suffering from hangs/freezes but thought it was only software problem and was being lazy about re-flashing it. I wish I'd come here more often when the phone was in a good condition, not after it died... Anyway, after I got to know that it's been SDS'd, I contacted seller, SamUK, SamUSA without any luck. It is just amazing how much we are unsupported in this situation. As large as Samsung has become, how hard can it be for them to just provide global repair services (if not warranty services)

BABAK236 said:
Hi
if you have N7100 SDS,,Usually You Need Replace eMMC....
I Have and i can replace eMMC ,,,Please Read :http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/9306319-post324.html
i'm product manager on RIFF-Jtag Box and I can do it,,,Plz Contact Me Via eMail or Sonork
[email protected]
Thanks
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$150 for an emmc chip?
How much does whole motherboard itself cost

I'm about to go to a phone repair place for a diagnostic test and see if they can do anything. I'll let you know what I find.
I was surprised to read that Samsung UK didn't wasn't helpful, since this phone is sold there. As a last-case scenario I was thinking of sending my phone to a friend over there and sending it in for repair.

Okay, as of today I sent the phone to a friend in the UK who was kind enough to let me use his address. It really sucks from having the best, most powerful phone to nothing, but I will likely pick up a Nexus 4 to use. I don't regret purchasing the phone since I wanted to have the best and it needed to be unlocked, but in the future I will be more cautious about buying one without local warranty.
I just hope the phone is 'dead' enough so the fact that I rooted it isn't detected.
What have you done with yours? I imagine it'll take ~2 weeks for my package to get shipped across the pond, and then I'll calculate 1.5 months for repair. I'll keep you posted on how it goes; maybe it's an option to get yours repaired there too?

Gordon. said:
Okay, as of today I sent the phone to a friend in the UK who was kind enough to let me use his address. It really sucks from having the best, most powerful phone to nothing, but I will likely pick up a Nexus 4 to use. I don't regret purchasing the phone since I wanted to have the best and it needed to be unlocked, but in the future I will be more cautious about buying one without local warranty.
I just hope the phone is 'dead' enough so the fact that I rooted it isn't detected.
What have you done with yours? I imagine it'll take ~2 weeks for my package to get shipped across the pond, and then I'll calculate 1.5 months for repair. I'll keep you posted on how it goes; maybe it's an option to get yours repaired there too?
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I bought a nexus 4 as well lol. I really needed a phone and it was cheap! :good: The experience has been as good as on N7100. 4.2.2 is even smoother now.
I have been caught up with school works and sth else in life, so I haven't really tried anything else yet. Samsung UK sent me an email that I cannot reply (automated email system), gave me a link to the list of Samsung regional supports (hell, they think I cannot find that on my own?!), and nothing more. Samsung USA just slammed the door in my face, basically saying "no, good luck" when I tried live support on their website. So now I am still trying to get my original seller into this and help me, but they haven't replied in the past 2 weeks.
I wish I had a friend in UK!
BTW, when you bought your phone thru Amazon, did you notice where the phone came from? I'm not sure where my came from now.. It has German, French, and Italian user guide in it, but on the warranty card, it seems to be written in German and Slovenian. And Samsung Electronics Austria GmbH is the only thing I can read (those long, long german words are giving me a headache :silly: ) It talked about three regions - Austria, Slovenia, and Switzerland (thanks to Google Translate). So it looks like this phone might come from Austria. I am not sure if it still can be sent to UK for repair.

Well my friend in the UK really only has to drop it in his mail and then accept it when it comes back. I'll let you know how it goes because he might be able to help you too. I'm pretty sure mine came from California (Amazon seller WorldWide Distributors). But the firmware version on the phone was from Brazil or Panama.
I made an account on Samsung UK's site and it accepted the model number, serial number and IMEI number so despite not being from the region, it should be good. Did you do anything to your phone just before it died? I think that installing MIUI with kernel 4.1.1 was the insult that triggered it all for me. I should've realized the vulnerability but assumed the newest version would have the SDS fix included.
I was thinking about bringing it to a cell phone repair place for diagnosis, but it didn't have water damage or broken screen so I doubt they could have helped.
Being optimistic, not having a good cell phone is really allowing me to focus on my final USMLE studies!

Gordon. said:
Well my friend in the UK really only has to drop it in his mail and then accept it when it comes back. I'll let you know how it goes because he might be able to help you too. I'm pretty sure mine came from California (Amazon seller WorldWide Distributors). But the firmware version on the phone was from Brazil or Panama.
I made an account on Samsung UK's site and it accepted the model number, serial number and IMEI number so despite not being from the region, it should be good. Did you do anything to your phone just before it died? I think that installing MIUI with kernel 4.1.1 was the insult that triggered it all for me. I should've realized the vulnerability but assumed the newest version would have the SDS fix included.
I was thinking about bringing it to a cell phone repair place for diagnosis, but it didn't have water damage or broken screen so I doubt they could have helped.
Being optimistic, not having a good cell phone is really allowing me to focus on my final USMLE studies!
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WOW good luck with the exam, i used to do premed but changed my major my GPA wasn't good enough
Anyway, that's for sure a better news. It looks like Samsung UK does not screen off phone bought outside of UK support region (if yours was from Mid/latin america.
Please definitely update this, if this works out I'll follow your path. Thanks for being the first in this case and helping the rest of us!

Gordon. said:
Hey cswithxda, I have the same situation. Bought a N7100 from Amazon a few months ago (around November) and everything was fine until this afternoon when it was just off. Tried turning it on but I'm just getting the dim red light that flashes slowly when I press the power button. Charging light is off and the phone appears absolutely dead.
A while ago I checked to see if I have a vulnerable chip, and it was positive.
Samsung's live chat said they don't support international products.
I might go to one of those repair places tomorrow to see if they can diagnose the phone. Then I might see if Samsung USA will even look at it, or else I might send it to UK or Korea?
What have you done since your phone suffered from the SDS?
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How did you check for vulnerable chip?

Gordon. said:
I made an account on Samsung UK's site and it accepted the model number, serial number and IMEI number so despite not being from the region, it should be good. Did you do anything to your phone just before it died? I think that installing MIUI with kernel 4.1.1 was the insult that triggered it all for me. I should've realized the vulnerability but assumed the newest version would have the SDS fix included.
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Oh btw, I don't think anything triggered the issue, it was just there from the beginning I didn't even install anything new for at least 2 months before the phone died. Just normal daily use - web browsing, call, SMS, mobile IM, etc. I did start experiencing random freezes about 2 weeks before the phone died, and it became much more frequent towards the end of its life.
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How did you check for vulnerable chip?
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Search "SDS xda" on google, and you'll find a ton of info. I didn't know about this issue before my phone died, so I never bothered to check if the chip in my phone was defective hehe..

autopumpkin.com service?

Hello,
I have two hardware problems with my HU from Pumpkin. Should I send it back to autopumpkin in China or could it be, that I will never see it again?
Has anyone experience with the Pumpkin service?
Thank you!

My touchscreen died (1 month old unit). Jammy on their forums said they would need to ship me a new screen... then nothing. I've emailed twice without response. I'm not thrilled with them.

Also mine has problems with the screen. It is flackering sometimes and often the screeen switches off.
So it is better to life with it, then to send it back to China.

I came onto here to write about my experience with pumpkin just yesterday. my HU is a few months old pumpkin brand bought off amazon. I started getting random phantom touches on the screen and it would swipe/touch icons and stuff i never touched it! So i decided to email pumpkin and ask for suggestion to fix. They replied within 24 hours and offered a free screen replacement along with video instructions on putting it in. The new one is on its way to me now at no cost. Their english is very "broken" but they DO have good customer service and want a satisfied customer, they also gave me links to the latest factory firmware for my unit too. Very nice
Thought i'd share my experience with them

Skater4599 said:
Their english is very "broken" but they DO have good customer service and want a satisfied customer, they also gave me links to the latest factory firmware for my unit too. Very nice
Thought i'd share my experience with them
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Ive found the same, Poor english but quick responses and very willing to help when they can.
I would buy from them again.

My response was not as good. Flickering/dark issues. They tried to say it was software, so I did all they said. When that didn't work, they wanted me to pay shipping for a screen (over $100) and would offer no guarantee that it would work.
Nice to see that other people had good service, though. I wonder if they are friendlier to Amazon customers because they fear Amazon coming back on them. I bought directly from autopumpkin and feel that their hardware support was lacking.

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My response was not as good. Flickering/dark issues. They tried to say it was software, so I did all they said. When that didn't work, they wanted me to pay shipping for a screen (over $100) and would offer no guarantee that it would work.
Nice to see that other people had good service, though. I wonder if they are friendlier to Amazon customers because they fear Amazon coming back on them. I bought directly from autopumpkin and feel that their hardware support was lacking.
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Seems like you need to get in touch with the rep that Skater4599 talked to

NYCAR said:
My response was not as good. Flickering/dark issues. They tried to say it was software, so I did all they said. When that didn't work, they wanted me to pay shipping for a screen (over $100) and would offer no guarantee that it would work.
Nice to see that other people had good service, though. I wonder if they are friendlier to Amazon customers because they fear Amazon coming back on them. I bought directly from autopumpkin and feel that their hardware support was lacking.
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I did get mine from Amazon and contacted them through amazon messaging, maybe that's the difference i don't know, but they at one point sent me a new screen under warranty even no shipping charges. (more than I thought was going to happen at least)

Be nice to support and realistic to yourself.
Many companies that sell global have different warranty and support/service. I.e. when you buy in Europe the same unit costs additional % to pay for repairs/warranty/replacement.
The same goes for every company I know. I can buy from Hong Kong, Russia, etc. and don't have to pay for those extra % on warranty, but of course that also means that I get no warranty if I don't pay for it.
When you buy from the Pumpkin website, you pay the price for the local market wherever they are. If that's in China and warranty there doesn't cover replacement or global replacement but only repair in the country you bought it, than you as international customer have no warrenty.
I.e. when you buy a device with warranty in Europe, you have bad luck trying to claim that warranty later in the USA or Japan or Russia. It all depends on where you buy it, local warranty, extended global or not, etc? The moment you buy from a store in your own country it's clear, you know what you pay for, or not. But whenever you go online and shop global, either you learn about the over 1.000.000 global regulations and laws or you simply live with a yes/no and don't know on forehand what you get for an answer.
Some larger companies have better support, i.e. Dell. I had a broken Screen bought in Europe that broke down when I was a few years in Russia. Dell send me the newest version cost-free across the globe to replace my broken screen. But that might not be covered by standard warranty, just a nice guy at the helpdesk. I've had with Canon the same once. But first support I got told me I was in bad luck. I called again, and than again, and third time I got a lady at the phone that was very helpful and said of course she'll prepare everything and I got a replacement within 1 week.
Same happened to me to German Telekom once when I had a broken phone. I called, called again, every time nothing. At one point, I got a Manager on the phone, a real manager from the top! Later I read in the newspaper they do that sometimes, the managers at the top working half a day the job of those below them to know about their work they are doing. And this manager said immediately of course we replace the device, next day I got a new iPhone upgraded version in my hands.
So it really matters which country, which law, which support representative, how nice do you ask, etc..
generally it's good to make the support representative feel like you are a poor person, in need of help and only him/her personally can save you. Some people I noticed called with a tone/way of speaking like:" I'm a customer, I'm the king, you are my slave, you must replace, you must for me, I paid and so you must crawl through the mud for me" of course people who talk like that get NOTHING!
So it's also how you represent yourself. Be nice, be gentle, let them know you are in need, they CAN but not MUST help you, start your conversation with:"i've had such great experience in the past..."
And if you don't have luck with 1 support representative, try again! That's no guarantee of course. Sometimes you are simply out of luck. I mean, when your printer dies after 12 years of loyal service, or your carkit dies after 6 years of service, you really think the product you bought isn't already written off economically? Of course it is. So be realistic with your claims.

Cracked screen/outcome?

Hey folks, had my OP3 for just over a month and wouldn't you know that I dropped a tool on the phone just at the earpiece and the whole screen spider cracked! Totally bummed out.
When talking to customer care they said it could take up to 10 working days, but once creating an RMA they would pay for shipping and then give me an estimate for materials and labor once they finish inspection. Does anyone have any prior opinion with this approach?
On a second option, I purchased a 1 year insurance plan from OnePlus that they offered through a company called Assurant.."On Gard Plus 24".....but when talking to One Plus, they had no contact number for claims!! Only an email for North America. Luckily the email was real and I got a responce, and they will be forwarding my claim to the appropriate division. Has any one gone this route?? (BTW if needed the email is " [email protected] " ).
Or how about just taking it to a phone repair spot and have them order the needed glass? Any one do this with the OP3?
I look forward to hear what options you took and how much was the repair and how long were you with out your phone.
Cheers!

I know I'm not the only one with butter fingers here......

Cracked my screen too, cost was €104 (screen, shipping, work) and the phone was gone for 20 days.
When asking if I can do it on my one they told me the screen isn't sold by OnePlus. So if you find one it's not genuine...

superiscch...thank you for that...that is what I was hunting for. Funny how when my SGS5's screen cracked, it was just one line. Now you compromise the glass and it just shatters!

Update
I got to talk to the insurance provider that was sold with the purchase of the OP3 and customer service was excellent...located in Canada. With the purchase of the insurance, the customer is allowed 2 replacement devices for damages regarding screen or water. This also includes manufacturer defect with unlimited replacement! They will replace your device with either a new one or refurbished model.....so
It's $80 for the insurance.....$75 for the claim. They then send out a replacement to you (2-3 days) and you get to move all your info from the damaged one to the new one and you then send out the damaged one! So your not left without a phone!
At this point I'm thinking this is the best service I have seen in a while! Hope this helps anyone else who has had damage their OP3.
I did receive an 1-800 number but it is with my notes that I don't have access to right now, but if it is needed I will post it LTR.....take care :highfive:

RMA Hell with Google Support (Non Google Play device)

Hopefully, I will find help here.
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- Phone was bought from a local shop which is an authorized Bell dealer. The phone was bought off contract at full price. The phone was not bought from Google Play Store
So since I've opened the case with Google Support (from the settings menu on the phone). It's been almost two week. Here's the rundown.
I’ve contacted them three times, I have to repeat the same issues over and over. Google Support confirmed me that they were a call center located in the Philippines.
-Call #1: Talked to Nate (amazing dude) said that he was going to print me the RMA to send the labels to my email. I have to send the phone first and then I'll get the replacement soon. There was a problem to produce my RMA labels. He said he will call me back with a solution. He called me back saying there was an issue will escalated the issue.
Waited 3 days
-Call #2: I contacted them another time since I didn’t get any updates since. They ask to verify my account by providing them the 4 last digits of my credit card? Again, repeat the same thing. They can't generate the RMA tag. The issue has been escalated since the day of the call.
-Call #3: They asked me the IMEI of my Nexus 5 (lol what ?)... Again guy can't generate the tag. The issue has been escalated since a while now. I’m super sad.
- Chat session #1 and #2: Talked with a supervisor says he will get back to me with a solution. Sent me two emails, then silence. Same deal.
So far… very disappointed with Google. I mean, I didn’t buy it from the Google Play store, but I was expecting some premium level of customer service at that price tag. Hell, I could walk into a Apple or Samsung store and get it replaced.
I cannot believe that I'm getting this kind of service from a company like that.
UPDATE of January 30th
- Label was finally processed on January 24th
- Phone was shipped on January 25th
- Google received my Pixel on January 27th
- Google Shipping department confirmed they approved the replacement, I should expect my shipping tag in 1 -2 business days.[/I]
UPDATE of February 07
- I did not receive my phone. I have many exchanges with Google but nothing sent out yet. Just support saying its 'in process or has been escalated'

I feel the same way when I try and chat amazon support. I work in tech support for the other A company so I know how to be clear and simple when contacting support. I tell them my issue and provide ant details they will need like my order number. They respond back asking for my order number..

Don't ever use email or chat with Amazon. Call them. It's not easy to find the number on their site but its there. BTW, their # 1 (888) 280-4331
To the OP, if you didn't buy from Google did you buy from VZ? If not, where did you get it? If not an authorized seller, that may be your problem.
Just curious, what is the problem with the phone?

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Hopefully, I will find help here.
So since I've opened the case with Google Support (from the settings menu on the phone). It's been almost two week. Here's the rundown.
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I cannot believe that I'm getting this kind of service from a company like that.
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Why do you think you will find help here? This is XDA not Google. Something is missing in your story and I'm not sure what it is. I'm also not sure what Apple and Samsung have to do with this. Or then again...

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Why do you think you will find help here? This is XDA not Google. Something is missing in your story and I'm not sure what it is. I'm also not sure what Apple and Samsung have to do with this. Or then again...
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I'm looking to see if others did an RMA with a non-Google Play purchased phone to sum it up. Also, if they had the same troubles that I got.

Mike02z said:
Don't ever use email or chat with Amazon. Call them. It's not easy to find the number on their site but its there. BTW, their # 1 (888) 280-4331
To the OP, if you didn't buy from Google did you buy from VZ? If not, where did you get it? If not an authorized seller, that may be your problem.
Just curious, what is the problem with the phone?
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Massive burn-in on the three softkey buttons. I can see them everywhere except the home screen. Indeed, I bought the phone from a local shop downtown which isn't Verizon.

I hate I have to ask this... but is it real? I mean buy a super popular phone from a random vendor for all we know the guy could have dropped it in the toilet then repackaged, could be flipping damaged units from ebay, **** there might even be fake ones idk. The point is without a vendor we know anything about it's hard to say with certainty that it is google's fault.

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Massive burn-in on the three softkey buttons. I can see them everywhere except the home screen. Indeed, I bought the phone from a local shop downtown which isn't Verizon.
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Well that clears it up a bit. You might want to go down to your local shop and demand a refund or open a BBB case against them if they refuse. I, personally, have never seen a local shop selling a Pixel or an XL. Why would you do that? Nonetheless, you can't blame Google, as you did in the OP, if they won't warranty a third party sale. Apple would repair and replace it for free? I think not.

Regardless of where it was purchased, Google should back up their hardware as it still has a Manufacturer's warranty. Besides, Google themselves already took responsibility of the replacement in the first call with Nate.
This is somewhat pathetic customer support.

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I hate I have to ask this... but is it real? I mean buy a super popular phone from a random vendor for all we know the guy could have dropped it in the toilet then repackaged, could be flipping damaged units from ebay, **** there might even be fake ones idk. The point is without a vendor we know anything about it's hard to say with certainty that it is google's fault.
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It's 100% legit. The phone isn't a cheap Chinese knockoff. I verified the model number with my friend and they both match. Google says there is no problem with the warranty of the phone just it can't generate the shipping labels for me to send back the device.
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Well that clears it up a bit. You might want to go down to your local shop and demand a refund or open a BBB case against them if they refuse. I, personally, have never seen a local shop selling a Pixel or an XL. Why would you do that? Nonetheless, you can't blame Google, as you did in the OP, if they won't warranty a third party sale. Apple would repair and replace it for free? I think not.
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I will try to contact the local shop where it was originally purchased but it's past the 30 days warranty. I bought this phone second hand and the previous owner has been a real gentleman by constantly providing me info and receipts one his purchase. It has been 3 weeks, and he's still contacting me to know if the issue as been resolved. The local shop is an authorized Bell dealer and carries the Google Pixel XL and Pixel. He bought it off contract, full price.
I dunno why you get so fired up with this, I'm not dishing anything on Google, I'm just trying to find someone with the same issue. Plus, even if let's the phone has "something" wrong with it... 2 weeks and no answer from a company is unacceptable. Also, why I purchased from secondhand? Because I've saved over 500$ instead of purchasing it through Google Play store because here in Canada they go for 1207.05$ with taxes.
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Regardless of where it was purchased, Google should back up their hardware as it still has a Manufacturer's warranty. Besides, Google themselves already took responsibility of the replacement in the first call with Nate.
This is somewhat pathetic customer support.
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I agree. But even if I call them up, it's still the same discussion over and over. I can't even escalate this issue, I don't know where to find a mailing address for it.

Something still just doesn't seem right. Not generating a shipping label is no reason to not have an RMA number. (wow triple negative) Meaning you should have an rma number nonetheless. Ship it yourself at that point. I don't believe they ever had a return authorization for you which is why you are now stuck with the device. Second, you bought it from a Bell authorized store yet you have the contact of the original seller? So this store sells second hand / used phones? What the heck kind of store does that, a consignment store? It's time to either realize that you have a defective device and live with it (after all you did save $500) or contact the store and/or seller for a refund. I believe Google has figured out what happened and will not support a second hand device. Could be wrong and you will magically have some luck but I wouldn't count on it. That's why they are avoiding your calls.

I had this problem with the first gen Moto 360, I bought it off Amazon but apparently not from Amazon and they wouldn't repair a screen defect under warranty. They verified it was genuine but they wouldn't fix it.
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Link to Google's Warranty document:
https://support.google.com/store/troubleshooter/3070579?hl=en#ts=7168940,7169349
Google warrants that a new Phone (including any ancillary parts that may be packaged with it) will be free from defects in materials and workmanship under normal use in accordance with Google’s published user documentation for one year from the date of original retail purchase in its original packaging by you. If a Phone has been refurbished, Google warrants that the Phone (including any ancillary parts that may be packaged with it) will be free from defects in materials and workmanship under normal use in accordance with Google’s published user documentation for ninety days from the date of retail purchase by you (these warranties are collectively referred to as our “Limited Warranty”).
This Limited Warranty is only valid and enforceable in locations the Phone is sold and will apply only if you purchased your Phone from Google or its authorized resellers. This Limited Warranty only applies to hardware components (and not any software elements) of the Phone, and this Limited Warranty does not apply to damage caused by normal wear and tear, accidents, misuse (including failure to follow product documentation), neglect, disassembly, alterations, servicing other than by Google authorized technicians, and external causes such as, but not limited to, water damage, anomalies in the electrical current supplied to the device, and extreme thermal or environmental conditions. This Limited Warranty does not guarantee that use of the Phone will be uninterrupted or error free.
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Based upon this it seems to me that used devices aren't covered under warranty, there's no mention of transfer of warranty that I can find in the document though local laws may govern here. I could imagine things would be even more dire if a phone was purchased within the US and sold outside of it.

Time to get your money back. Maybe the original owner can get it fixed and then sell it back to you. Good luck.
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Time to get your money back. Maybe the original owner can get it fixed and then sell it back to you. Good luck.
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I think you're out of luck. Google can rest on its warranty fine print.
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It's a simple fact Google is no apple but have the nerve to charge the same price. Wannabe apple!
I've had issues with Google before and have lost confidence in their customer services.
Keep pestering them until they sort out even write to them. Speak to manager demand to speak to managenent, it's completely unexceptable ignoring your issue.

riz157 said:
It's a simple fact Google is no apple but have the nerve to charge the same price. Wannabe apple!
I've had issues with Google before and have lost confidence in their customer services.
Keep pestering them until they sort out even write to them. Speak to manager demand to speak to managenent, it's completely unexceptable ignoring your issue.
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He did not buy it from an authorized dealer. He is SOL. Check the warranty. It sucks for him but no one here can help him. He needs to work with the seller, not Google. The warranty was violated. That's game over from a Google perspective.

riz157 said:
It's a simple fact Google is no apple but have the nerve to charge the same price. Wannabe apple!
I've had issues with Google before and have lost confidence in their customer services.
Keep pestering them until they sort out even write to them. Speak to manager demand to speak to managenent, it's completely unexceptable ignoring your issue.
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Apple would not do anything different than what Google did. Don't kid yourself. They also have a right to sell their phones for whatever price they want. You don't like it, don't buy it. We got spoiled with the older devices but that ship has sailed. The OP needs to realize he got screwed in order to save a few hundred bucks. It was a gamble that he lost.
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Mike02z said:
He did not buy it from an authorized dealer. He is SOL. Check the warranty. It sucks for him but no one here can help him. He needs to work with the seller, not Google. The warranty was violated. That's game over from a Google perspective.
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You can walk into Apple store whether you bought it from your uncle or an alien, as long as it's not reported stolen and within warranty your issue will be resolved.
Google is a bit of a joke simple as that, btw I'm an android fan but not a fanboy of any particular company. I just don't like people being ripped off.

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You can walk into Apple store whether you bought it from your uncle or an alien, as long as it's not reported stolen and within warranty your issue will be resolved.
Google is a bit of a joke simple as that, btw I'm an android fan but not a fanboy of any particular company. I just don't like people being ripped off.
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Really? Walk right in and get an exchange? You mean after you have to schedule with a "genious"? So I make my appointment and they run the IMEI and find it has a block? Think they will replace it? You may not like the Google warranty but you accepted it when you purchased the phone. I know most don't read it but that is Google's fault?
And what does the OP think anyone here can do to help him except to suggest he take it back? They saved some money and now he has a problem. Saving money is great but it comes with a risk.