[Request] Use PS3 controller with Kindle Fire? - Kindle Fire Android Development

I was just curious if anyone had any ideas about if this would be possible. I know Sony recently released an update so one of their tablets could use it. Given the Fire's mini-USB port and the fact that Bluetooth is physically there, any chance we'll get to use a PS3 controller with Kindle Fire? I have never been into the touch screen controls for games like Zenonia. And I think being able to play it with a PS3 controller on Kindle Fire would be pretty sweet. I already did a few Google searches but couldn't find any information about this working.
Another great thing about this, would be that we could theoretically use the gyroscope in the PS3 controller for other stuff.
I'm still new to this scene so I'm not sure what all would be needed, but wanted to bring it up while I had it on my mind.

MichaelVash7886 said:
I was just curious if anyone had any ideas about if this would be possible. I know Sony recently released an update so one of their tablets could use it. Given the Fire's mini-USB port and the fact that Bluetooth is physically there, any chance we'll get to use a PS3 controller with Kindle Fire? I have never been into the touch screen controls for games like Zenonia. And I think being able to play it with a PS3 controller on Kindle Fire would be pretty sweet. I already did a few Google searches but couldn't find any information about this working.
Another great thing about this, would be that we could theoretically use the gyroscope in the PS3 controller for other stuff.
I'm still new to this scene so I'm not sure what all would be needed, but wanted to bring it up while I had it on my mind.
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It's a slim possibility only if someone finds a way of getting Bluetooth to work, but even then it's down to someone to write the the code to make the PS3 controller function, and then the game either has to support it, or there needs to be a driver layer that can emulate the screen touches/gyroscope.
However, as currently the KF only supports 2 finger touch, and nobody knows if that is a hardware or firmware limitation, that might also be a show stopper.
An external joystick would be nice, but I'm thinking there are quite a number of hurdles to overcome first!

IF u had cm7 installed on ur kindle and they got the bluetooth to work then u could use ur ps3 controller on ur kindle as cm7 lets u use a app called sixxaxis which lets u sync ur ps3 controller with bluetooth to ur phone and u can play games on ur phone with ur ps3 controller. It works perfectly on my sgs2 running cm7

movieaddict said:
cm7 lets u use a app called sixxaxis which lets u sync ur ps3 controller with bluetooth
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That is an interesting app for sure, never seen that before. It could be worth a shot if they overcome the Bluetooth limitation.
I might see if this works on my Droid, as I'm still skeptical about the button/touch emulation. However, it does have good reviews so it might be a good working solution.

sl0ttedpig said:
That is an interesting app for sure, never seen that before. It could be worth a shot if they overcome the Bluetooth limitation.
I might see if this works on my Droid, as I'm still skeptical about the button/touch emulation. However, it does have good reviews so it might be a good working solution.
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I forgot about that app, but I have heard good things about it. If they can get Bluetooth then as you said, could be our solution. In fact, I'd think it'd make the process fairly easy after that.

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PS3 controller possible?

Would it be possible to link a PS3 controller to our phone? The only problem I could see would be linking them up... But it would be badass for emulators!
I'm breathing life back into any old thread I can find that has this question. I just got the EVO 3D and once my mhl cable comes, I'm gonna be rockin the emulator over HDMI to my tv, and would LOVE to be able to just use my PS3 controller. We need to get on this STAT.
I'm willing to help in any way possible.
just use a emulator and download the Ps3 drivers to your pc,then if you have a pc with HDMI you can connect it to your TV.....why would you use your phone when you can run any kind of console with your pc...lol
WONGLONGSOOK said:
just use a emulator and download the Ps3 drivers to your pc,then if you have a pc with HDMI you can connect it to your TV.....why would you use your phone when you can run any kind of console with your pc...lol
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Because I can't take my PC with me anywhere I go...
If I could do it through the phone I could play on my TV while I'm home, but also on the go anywhere that I have my phone, without having to export/import save files or play two separate games.
well...you will have to use bluetooth to connect the controller to your phone,the phone can't power that device on usb....
http://www.evo4gforum.net/htc-evo-4...n-we-get-the-wiimote-ps3-controller-to-work!/
sorry,but the only thing I can find is for the WII....
WONGLONGSOOK said:
well...you will have to use bluetooth to connect the controller to your phone,the phone can't power that device on usb....
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Yeah, that's the plan. Hoping to somehow link the controller for use with the phone. PS3 is tricky though because it requires a USB connection to a device in order to pair with it. I'm hoping to use a PC as an intermediary to 'introduce' them to each other and then it should (in theory) just be a matter of collecting/interpreting button press data and mapping it to the correct buttons in the phones emulator.
kinda old but has to be a way for Android.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mH_NBKtj0R8
WONGLONGSOOK said:
kinda old but has to be a way for Android.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mH_NBKtj0R8
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I'll check this out on my lunch. Thanks!
You are out of luck when trying to pair PS3 controller to Android. Can't be done at the moment.
Best bet is still the Wii remote (can use the classic controller as well) or purchasing a special type bluetooth gamepad off the net (just search Google and there are a few to choose from that do work well).
CCallahan said:
You are out of luck when trying to pair PS3 controller to Android. Can't be done at the moment.
Best bet is still the Wii remote (can use the classic controller as well) or purchasing a special type bluetooth gamepad off the net (just search Google and there are a few to choose from that do work well).
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I'm sorry, but I refuse to believe that two bluetooth devices based on Linux can't somehow be paired. Maybe extra hardware needs to be introduced, and there'll probably be some reverse engineering involved, but if they can connect a wiimote to Android, and a ps3 controller to a windows phone, there has to be a way to make this work...
CCallahan said:
You are out of luck when trying to pair PS3 controller to Android. Can't be done at the moment.
Best bet is still the Wii remote (can use the classic controller as well) or purchasing a special type bluetooth gamepad off the net (just search Google and there are a few to choose from that do work well).
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It may not be able to be done with the EVO yet but it can be done. I've done it natively on my Xoom with emulators many times.
http://www.androidcentral.com/using-ps3-controller-motorola-xoom
merak69 said:
It may not be able to be done with the EVO yet but it can be done. I've done it natively on my Xoom with emulators many times.
http://www.androidcentral.com/using-ps3-controller-motorola-xoom
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That's awesome. That's the kind of encouraging thing that makes me believe this can be done. Perhaps there's a way to force the pairing with one of those cables and then wirelessly sync from that point on. Were you able to try that at all with the Xoom?
merak69 said:
It may not be able to be done with the EVO yet but it can be done. I've done it natively on my Xoom with emulators many times.
http://www.androidcentral.com/using-ps3-controller-motorola-xoom
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you're doing it with a cable though, so at that point its just a standard usb input device.
danialhanson said:
I'm breathing life back into any old thread I can find that has this question. I just got the EVO 3D and once my mhl cable comes, I'm gonna be rockin the emulator over HDMI to my tv, and would LOVE to be able to just use my PS3 controller. We need to get on this STAT.
I'm willing to help in any way possible.
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How about just playing the games that you already have on available on your phone. I don't see this ever working especially with sonys ****ty products.
this is also why I have all manner of game systems and PCs hooked up to my tvs/projectors:
I like being able to take phone calls or respond to text messages without having to exit my game....lol
deathsled said:
this is also why I have all manner of game systems and PCs hooked up to my tvs/projectors:
I like being able to take phone calls or respond to text messages without having to exit my game....lol
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True but I like the idea of taking the game WITH me so if I'm stuck somewhere bored with nothing to do I can pick up where I left off.
danialhanson said:
I'm sorry, but I refuse to believe that two bluetooth devices based on Linux can't somehow be paired. Maybe extra hardware needs to be introduced, and there'll probably be some reverse engineering involved, but if they can connect a wiimote to Android, and a ps3 controller to a windows phone, there has to be a way to make this work...
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Pretty much I heard it comes down to being able to pair the thing with the phone. Maybe drivers too.
I'd say that, at least from a hardware perspective, all you should need is a wire that would plug into both of them. Haven't the slightest idea what you'd need from the software side though.
deathsled said:
you're doing it with a cable though, so at that point its just a standard usb input device.
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You have to use a cable. The ps3 controller may be Bluetooth but it uses a non standard protocol, rendering it completely incompatible with our evo's Bluetooth stack. People had to write custom drivers from the ground up to get the ps3 controller to work on the PC, but that jacks up your ability to use other normal Bluetooth functions (at least the last time I tried a month or two ago, it still did).
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danialhanson said:
I'm breathing life back into any old thread I can find that has this question. I just got the EVO 3D and once my mhl cable comes, I'm gonna be rockin the emulator over HDMI to my tv, and would LOVE to be able to just use my PS3 controller. We need to get on this STAT.
I'm willing to help in any way possible.
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Instead of necroing a thread in the Evo 4G forums, how about posting this in the Evo 3D forums. I mean, that is the phone you have. Just sayin'.

Anyone aware of an app that makes your phone a remote keyboard

I know I am not the first one to think of this but I was wondering if anyone is aware of development of a remote control/keyboard app for use with the PS3 and 360 (wii gets no love)? I would love to have the functionality of using my phone for both devices at home.
I was playing around with a remote play option on the PS3 and app called BD remote but it doesnt seem to pair the two. I got the idea after downloading pocket blu app and I was able control Inglorious Basterds via wifi. That in of itself was cool but I craved more control.
I dont write code so Im of no help here. I could try but I dont think that will be fruitful.
epidemike said:
I know I am not the first one to think of this but I was wondering if anyone is aware of development of a remote control/keyboard app for use with the PS3 and 360 (wii gets no love)? I would love to have the functionality of using my phone for both devices at home.
I was playing around with a remote play option on the PS3 and app called BD remote but it doesnt seem to pair the two. I got the idea after downloading pocket blu app and I was able control Inglorious Basterds via wifi. That in of itself was cool but I craved more control.
I dont write code so Im of no help here. I could try but I dont think that will be fruitful.
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This should probably be in Q&A or Apps section, so try posting there next time.
As for your question, it would be virtually impossible on the 360. The 360 doesn't use bluetooth or wifi, and it would be virtually impossible to have a server application running on it anyway. Maybe if you hacked your 360, added wifi and did a lot of jerryrigging, you'd get it to work. PS3 uses both bluetooth and wifi, but I don't know if its possible to port applications to it without hacking. Again, I think the real challenge is to run some sort of server on the device. The app for your phone is easy, the server side would be really tricky. Don't have a PS3, so I don't know much about it, but 360 is definitely out.
Maybe this will give you a hint. I've successfully tried it in Windows.
h**p://htcevohacks.com/htc-evo-hacks/how-to-use-htc-evo-4g-as-a-wireless-multi-touchkeyboard/
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Not the same as what you're looking for specifically, but Gmote and Remote Droid will do that.
Gmote is awesome. I love how it turns your phone into a laptop like trackpad for your PC.

Dualshock 3: Is rooting REALLY mandatory?

I'm gonna buy a Nexus 7 (2013) tomorrow, the Wi-Fi only model, and I'm pretty excited because I'm looking foward to making that my ultimate emulation machine and, of course, a good joystick is needed for that.
The thing is, I scavenged around google and this very forum, but I couldn't find anything that answers my question, and if it did, well it was about another tablet: is rooting really required for a Dualshock 3?
I'm a total noob in this, I know there is a full guide to rooting this device but I'd really prefer not to. I don't even need a custom rom, I'm perfectly fine with the default. I know there is an app in the Play Store but it requires rooting, and I read in some place that rooting is needed only if you want to connect it via bluetooth, in an other place it says not, in another video I see somebody just linking it with usb OTG and playing...
So how can I connect without rooting? Even if I have to keep it linked to the OTG, I just want to know the very basic way to use a Dualshock 3 on a default Nexus 7 (2013).
Thanks in advance.
PS I really don't need support for Android games, as I said I'll use it just for emulation. And I'm writing this in the accessories section because I saw another thread about the Dualshock 3 in the Accessories forum (of another tablet of course), is it ok?
The only app i've seen use it is sixaxis. It requires rooting as far as i know.
But i have to ask, why the hesitation to rooting to begin with?
hypergreatthing said:
The only app i've seen use it is sixaxis. It requires rooting as far as i know.
But i have to ask, why the hesitation to rooting to begin with?
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Because I need this tablet for school too, I keep there my school books, so I'm paying half of it while my parents pay the other half. So, I can't really risk doing something that would remove my warranty. Of course, I can tell'em nothing about rooting, but what if I need to repair the tablet? I'm taking it to school everyday after all, that isn't exactly a church.
Then it seems like a long thing to do that I don't even need, and I always end up screwing something up during these things, so I don't wanna risk bricking it either.
Finally, I know I'd lose everything if I root, I know it's fresh out of shop, but I don't even want to bother about re-installing the basic things: I don't even know how much of that is removed anyway, so I don't certainly want to end up searching drivers or something.
This might work too, although I've no experience with it:
(I tried to post the link, but don't have enough posts to do so)
Go to the Play store and search on Sixaxis Enabler
guagnedb careless
jwats01 said:
This might work too, although I've no experience with it:
(I tried to post the link, but don't have enough posts to do so)
Go to the Play store and search on Sixaxis Enabler
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That's the thing we were talking about, it requires rooting. It even says so in the description.
If you just use the PS3 controller connected to a OTG cable then you don't need to root. If you want to use it via bluetooth you need to root. There are quite a few all in one kits that can root your device for you easily but if you're not comfortable then use OTG cable or buy something like the Moga where you don't need to root.
biggiestuff said:
If you just use the PS3 controller connected to a OTG cable then you don't need to root. If you want to use it via bluetooth you need to root. There are quite a few all in one kits that can root your device for you easily but if you're not comfortable then use OTG cable or buy something like the Moga where you don't need to root.
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Rooting only voids your warranty if ASUS finds out. Which they won't. Just use Wugs Toolkit or something to root it, then if you need repairs hook it up and return it to stock the same way(you can do this even without the screen being on if it is broken). Or as posted above use a wired XBOX 360/PS3 controller, and look lamer but stay stock
Thanks i bought the tablet. i have another question, what kind of otg is compatible? I saw some at the ludicrous price of ten euros, the shopkeeeper even said otg aren't compatible with tablet (so yeah he was pretty clueless)
Just simply use a OTG cable like this one: http://www.amazon.com/eForCity-Micr...UTF8&qid=1377771242&sr=8-3&keywords=otg+cable and connect your PS3 controller with the ps3 usb cord to it.
Heres another link that helps explain it: http://www.realdroidgaming.com/2013/03/09/how-to-use-a-dualshock3-with-an-android-device/
cloudropis said:
That's the thing we were talking about, it requires rooting. It even says so in the description.
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This is actually not what you are referring to, which is why I posted it. Straight from the description of Sixaxis Enabler:
Many Android devices support connecting PS3 DualShock 3/Sixaxis Controller natively in wired mode but don't work out of box, this app come to help. NO ROOT, NO PAIRING, all you need is an Android device which supports USB Host, and connection cable (USB OTG cable is needed if your device doesn't have built-in USB Host port).
I believe you were referring to the Sixaxis Controller app, which does require root, as the description says.
jwats01 said:
This is actually not what you are referring to, which is why I posted it. Straight from the description of Sixaxis Enabler:
Many Android devices support connecting PS3 DualShock 3/Sixaxis Controller natively in wired mode but don't work out of box, this app come to help. NO ROOT, NO PAIRING, all you need is an Android device which supports USB Host, and connection cable (USB OTG cable is needed if your device doesn't have built-in USB Host port).
I believe you were referring to the Sixaxis Controller app, which does require root, as the description says.
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I totally didn't sede that, I thought you ere talking of tue sixaxis Controller app ad you said. Sorry for me being rude, I'm sorry.
Anyway bought the OTG the controller works with no problems. At first it didn't work with android games, but I just had to edit the game, and now Dead Trigger seems like a decent game :V
Thanks for the help guys!
cloudropis said:
At first it didn't work with android games, but I just had to edit the game, and now Dead Trigger seems like a decent game :V
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What do you mean by "edit the game"? What did you have to do?
i connected the DS3 via otg cable, do i need another app for the nexus 7 to detect it? i think it moves some of the icons on my home screen, i tried one game and it doesn't work air attack hd SHOOTING game
the 4 redlights on the DS3 are flashing on off tho
Caelrie said:
What do you mean by "edit the game"? What did you have to do?
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I mean that I hadn't disabled auto-correction yet. I meant Exit, lol.
And cobyman, not every android game supports gamepad. You can move the cursor in the home and the four lights are flashing? Then it's working, now you can only hope that the games you want support it.
Rooting is nothing more then and administrator account with admin privileges. I don't know why some people freak out about this stuff. Its reversible and you can always flash a stock image to go back to 100% stock.
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Is anyone using the Sixaxis app on the new Q release wirelessly? Mine worked on J but now it won't see the controller.

[Q] Playstation 4 controller not working.

I've read over the internet that the Playstation 4 controller will work with the aftv but when I try and sync it up with it the controller just blinks white and then turns off and the aftv says fail to pair. Does anyone have this same problem and know of a workaround?
Thanks
I have the same problem. I can't get it to sync up no matter what I do. It does work while plugged into the firetv. I don't have a PS4 though so that's the only thing I can think of why mine doesn't work. Maybe it has some kind of software update that it needs from the PS4. I did buy my remote right when it first came out because it was a really good deal. I think it was priced wrong. Do you have a PS4?
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I have the same problem. I can't get it to sync up no matter what I do. It does work while plugged into the firetv. I don't have a PS4 though so that's the only thing I can think of why mine doesn't work. Maybe it has some kind of software update that it needs from the PS4. I did buy my remote right when it first came out because it was a really good deal. I think it was priced wrong. Do you have a PS4?
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Yeah I have a PS4, and with mine even if I plug it into the fire tv it still does not work.
Anyone Get This Working?
I am having the same problem . Not Rooted and the controller works through USB just wont with Bluetooth
Thanks!.
cidco80 said:
I am having the same problem . Not Rooted and the controller works through USB just wont with Bluetooth
Thanks!.
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Same here, is there a USB dongle like the one for the xbox controller.

[Q] A few questions about Fire TV

Here is what my needs are :
Netflix
XBMC reading files off a NAS/SMB or USB drive, or some other video player
Some emulators using a Ps3 controller.
Is this still a good solution for this, or should I just go with something like this - http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00OTK8OZ0/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1F1P6OW46LBLQ
My wife is in the States this week so I can get her to pick a Fire TV up.
Thanks.
Netflix/xbmc/smb/nas all fine and run great. I would recommend spmc over kodi/xbmc though, but try both.
videos from USB drive can be done but only with root and StickMount. Root is only possible on older fire tvs. If this is something you want/need, maybe ask your wife to check the serial numbers on the boxes shes finds (my gf would just laugh at me if I asked ;P). Here is a guide: http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-decode-an-amazon-fire-tv-or-fire-tv-stick-serial-number/
PS3 controller can be paired with an aftv, but also required root access and has some slight annoyances (like needing to launch the sixasis app first before each use and stopping it after each use, plus the remote doesn't work at the same time). Thread about it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2710632
But you have other options. PS4 controller works better, and I think does not need root. 360 controller (which I know has a crappy d-pad for emulators) or the official controller. Or even something like the NES30.
I can't speak to the box you linked, but I love my fire tv! If you are flexible on the PS3 controller, then you I think you're good to go.
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Netflix/xbmc/smb/nas all fine and run great. I would recommend spmc over kodi/xbmc though, but try both.
videos from USB drive can be done but only with root and StickMount. Root is only possible on older fire tvs. If this is something you want/need, maybe ask your wife to check the serial numbers on the boxes shes finds (my gf would just laugh at me if I asked ;P). Here is a guide: http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-decode-an-amazon-fire-tv-or-fire-tv-stick-serial-number/
PS3 controller can be paired with an aftv, but also required root access and has some slight annoyances (like needing to launch the sixasis app first before each use and stopping it after each use, plus the remote doesn't work at the same time). Thread about it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2710632
But you have other options. PS4 controller works better, and I think does not need root. 360 controller (which I know has a crappy d-pad for emulators) or the official controller. Or even something like the NES30.
I can't speak to the box you linked, but I love my fire tv! If you are flexible on the PS3 controller, then you I think you're good to go.
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Thanks for the info, for what I want it for root will most likely be needed. I will have to order it from Amazon.com and get it delivered to her hotel so checking the serial is out of the question. I am sure it is answered somewhere, but why has no root been found for newer versions?
In that case you may be lucky and get a rootable one. There are reports that Amazon.com are still shipping them, but that was a while ago (maybe 2 months ago).
I don't know the specifics as to why newer ones aren't rooted yet, but from what I understand the original firmware versions had a old Android exploit that allowed root, which was eventually patched. A new exploit hasn't been found, but awesomely dedicated people are working on it There is a hardware root, but I have no experience with it. There's a thread about it here on xda.

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