Like the title states. When I was doing the initial setup with the phone I actually had to connect it to wifi since the 3G connection hadn't been established. Roughly 3-4 minutes before it connected. Same issue across roms and even the leaked radio. This happens during android os startup and airplane mode.
Maybe I'm spoiled but my OG droid data connection was usually established within 30 seconds. The Droid Razr I was "renting" was the same way.
Is anyone else's LTE nexus this way? Is this another quirk of the phone. Or do I have a defective radio?
Mine takes maybe 30 or 40 seconds for a 3g connection. Way way longer than my Sprint phone does.
Try changing to cdma only, instead of cdma/lte, see if that helps. its possible the phone is looking for a 4g signal first, or if its too weak to connect, then reverts to 3g
I've found personally, that initially, turning off/on data, both 3g and 4g take longer to connect, but if left on and running, it switches back and forth as necessary & quickly
When I switch to cdma only, it takes a long time to connect . Same when I switch back to lte.
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I live in a strong LTE region running the leaked 4.03 radio. Where the signals are strong, eg in the middle of a street, the radios are great. But surprisingly, this combo experiences 3G+4G holes where my Sprint phone works fine on 4G.
Switching WiFi to strong 4G signal seems to take 20-30 secs.
Switching from no signal reception to good 4G signal seems to take well over a minute.
Btw, not sure how long it takes to switch to 3G. It does happen when I enter buildings but I am not watching the signal indicator change.
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But surprisingly, this combo experiences 3G+4G holes where my Sprint phone works fine on 4G.
Switching WiFi to strong 4G signal seems to take 20-30 secs.
Switching from no signal reception to good 4G signal seems to take well over a minute.
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i've been using the leaked radios for a bit, and have had significantly faster switching wifi->4g, its almost instant now, and even for 2-3 bars. No signal->4g does take me a bit too tho.
As for Sprint, they have different antennas, and could be covering different areas, and on different towers than verizon
I've noticed the slow switch on both 3g and 4g. This includes switching from 3g to 4g and vice versa. Inside buildings or in the streets, it doesn't seem to matter.
The city I live in was one of the test markets for 4g, and I can get a 4g connection pretty much everywhere but the outskirts. 4g speed tests aren't in the wow factor like the Droid Razr, I mostly manage 10-12mbps down and 1-6mbps up.
I think I'm going to take a little trip around my local Verizon wireless and hit their test units to see if the same thing happens.
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I have a problem with my Tmobile g2 running 2.2, it is all stock no modifications whatsoever other than handcent and fancy widget.
The problem is I can not connect to 3g or hsdpa network when I am at home. By this I mean the cell tower that provides service when I am at home. I have txt and calling capabilites but I have no data whatsoever. I have to manually switch to 2g or edge to check email or use the browser. I have called tmobile and they keep telling me that the problem is with my phone, however when I am 2 or 3 miles from my house and it goes to any other tower on the planet everything works fine.
I have searched the g2 forum here but could find no answers. I apologize in advance if this has been indeed covered or discussed to death and I have just failed to find it.
I did find the *#*#4636#*#* option and when it is on 2g I can run a ping test and it finds the server just fine, but on 3g it always fails to connect. Again this only occurs of course when I am sitting at home!
Thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this or point me in the right direction because leaving it up to tmobile has proven to be fruitless.
It might also be worth mentioning that i replaced the sim card today as well, this too had no effect on this phenomenon.....
My mom's nexus s has the same problem. Only difference is that when i walk out the door i get 3g. Once i walk back in, I get edge...... I think its might be just tmobile frequencies poor ability to pentrate walls.
Sounds like a problem with the 3G network in your area, or just a weak signal there.
I know its not the signal strength, I always have full bars at home Its something to do with the network....
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I know its not the signal strength, I always have full bars at home Its something to do with the network....
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Full bars on 3G or 2G ? If you have full bars on 3G then it sounds like a network problem.
I have the exact same problem, but my building is probably over 100 years old with 300 coats of lead paint on it. It depends on your building. Signals can bounce off of mirrors for example and other materials. The more material the signal has to go through, the more attenuation happens.
I have a similar problem, my G2 can't maintain a consistent connection, I will go from 4 bars of HSPA+ to 4 bars of Edge to nothing (lost connection to network) and it will jump around wildly between these three states (every few minutes). My wife's MyTouch 4G doesn't do this, my G1 did not do this, our kids (dumb) phones have consistent connections.
I know it's some interaction between my phone and the TMO network, I'd say it was a defective phone except the only place it happens is inside my house.
I wish that TMO offered a microcell.
There is no reception problem, I have had the phone working here for awhile and it always has full bars, like I said I can hop in the car and drive a couple miles and it works just fine. Tmobile finally got back to me today and said they are having their Engineers troubleshoot the tower that provides service when I am home. I hope they get this fixed soon, they said 72 hours.......
It's that anti-cellphonereception chemical they put into paint!!
Hey all,
I'm curious to how your reception is on the VZ GNex. I still have my Rezound here and it seems like I'm getting about -20db worse on the GNex compared to the Rezound. I'm curious - has anyone else experienced this?
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Super
yeah, and it is killing me. In the same spot in my room I had my rezound, I had MUCH MUCH better signal strengh. I could keep 4G all day, which is why I switched from sprint to verizon. Thunderbolt, Droid Bionic, Rezound, all worked fine. The GN looses 4G consistantly. This might be a deal breaker for me. I am going to try a custom rom in a min when it finishes downloading, but I doubt that will help. Also am on 4.0.2.
on the thunderbolt there was a setting that allowed us to change when it "lost" 4G signal. I.E. it would allow the phone to pick up a weak signal. Does anyone know if there is a setting like this? I know the signal isn't weak in my house from the previous phones, so it is either a setting like this, or the GN has a really crappy radio...
The 3g and 4g on my Nexus is very bad and not even usable. It is either dropped or barely working. Without wi-fi my phone would have been useless today.
If this isn't correct quickly I will have no choice but to go back to my Thunderbolt which was great!
Service at my apartment just sucks but it's getting the same reception as my OG Droid
I had a rezound and was certainly getting a better signal, 2 things I noticed on the rezound was the battery door actually had antenna relays in it, and also there was 3 settings on the rezound for network performance (performance, normal, and battery saver)
I get horrible signal strength in spots, like on my way home from work there are several short distances where it just drops the signal all together.
At home, my phone seems to just drop connection completely and it's having a hard time picking it up again. Noticed this morning it had been without network access all night. Rebooted it and everything was OK (strong signal) in the exact same physical location.
does any body know how to update roaming with this phone I tried *228 but that didn't work
I am having similar issues in regards to network dropping out. I can understand why 4g would -being limited coverage and all- but 3g should seamlessly pick up where it drops off, plus my voice signal is much lower -100dBmw vs -85/-90dBm which I got with my OG Droid.
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does any body know how to update roaming with this phone I tried *228 but that didn't work
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You can't update roaming on LTE devices, as the sim card automatically does it. What you can do is a "sim reset" type thing.
Power off, and leave your sim card out for like 5 minutes. Put it back in and turn on the phone. According to multiple sources, this will cause the sim to have to re-register on the network, thus refreshing/updating your privs.
Rezound is way better reception wise. Matter of fact, the Rezound is better at a lot of key things! Ima give this a chance but I gotta say I miss my Rezzy!!
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WOW.... my Nexus data was very bad and almost unusable, but now it is fixed!
I didn't want to, but I did a factory data reset and it resolved the data issues. Everything is solid connections now and holding steady. Before the signal was bouncing all over the place.
Give the factory data reset a try if you are having issues. Yes you have to start over but it's better than having a phone that doesn't work.
Phew... now I am happy again! I really thought I was going to have to go back to my Thunderbolt.
OK. I did some digging. I recommend all users download an app called sensorly. It would appear that the reported signal strength by default is 4G. Currently, my 4G is is teetering at -100dBm to no signal and that shows on my phone as no bars. However, I discovered that my 3G is at -90 dBm (excellent coverage). From what I have researched it would appear that the phone has issues handshaking between 3G and 4G which I am sure will be corrected in an OTA update.
If I go to Settings-Wireless & Networks-More-Mobile Networks-Network Mode-CDMA/LTE and switch to CDMA only my bars come up and my dBm appears normal in settings.
I am pretty confident this is a LTE/3G handshake issue. Just like when you leave your home and you are still barely connected to wifi and the phone doesn't know what to use, so all of your apps fail trying to connect. I think it is just the same.
Anyway, I hope this helps others. It has made me less neurotic finding this out.
I had the rezound and returned it because of the headphone noise. Got the nexus and it gets terrible signal and speeds where the rezound was great. Called Verizon and they are sending me another Rezound and told me it shouldn't have the audio problems. We shall see. I just know that the nexus is unusable in my house due to reception.
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It seems whenever I don't have a 4g data connection, I'm not getting any data connection. Anyone else have this problem? When I'm in builldings I never get a data connection. Even when I'm outside I rarely get data connection unless it's a 4g spot. I know someone with a GN and side by side, he gets a connection at work while I have gray bars. Is this prevelant among most of you all? I'm on Verizon if that makes a difference.
Yes, I have this issue as well when I am at work but only when I have wifi turned on. With wifi on I get no 4g connection inside the building and the phone won't drop down to 3g, just gives me gray bars and no data. Manually switching from LTE/CDMA to CDMA restores my 3g data connection. Turning wifi off enables the LTE data connection. I assume it's trying to use the building's wifi network that I am not authenticated to for some reason. It's quite annoying and seems to be draining my battery.
My 4g reception sucks. I am rather disappointed. I canceled my ATT account and paid the ETF to switch to verizon for the GN. I am in plano tx which is in the Verizon LTE area and i dont get any signal except in a few spots on the highway. I work in Richardson, which is also in the LTE area, and i dont even have 3g in the building. I dont have any signal when i go deeper into the building away from the windows. I am running stock 4.0.2. I hope this gets better. I am already regretting dropping ATT.
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My 4g reception sucks. I am rather disappointed. I canceled my ATT account and paid the ETF to switch to verizon for the GN. I am in plano tx which is in the Verizon LTE area and i dont get any signal except in a few spots on the highway. I work in Richardson, which is also in the LTE area, and i dont even have 3g in the building. I dont have any signal when i go deeper into the building away from the windows. I am running stock 4.0.2. I hope this gets better. I am already regretting dropping ATT.
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Strange. I have excellent 3G and 4G signal in buildings, coming from Sprint I had non-existent data everywhere, especially indoors.
Just as an fyi. I went to Verizon to try to get a new phone. They told me my sim card was bad. I got the phone on the first day and they said they had issues with the first sim cards with the nexus. My wifes has the same problem.
New sim card, NO MORE connection issues. Yeah! Anyone else who has this issue might try this. I am now getting 3g and even 4g connections inside now.
ill go to the verizon store after work and switch sims. Just got it on 1/1. Ill go to a different verizon store to make sure its not a bad batch lol.
Wasnt the SIM card. Still getting crappy signal strength. I am going today and replacing the phone. If that doesnt work, i am going back to ATT skyrocket...
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Strange. I have excellent 3G and 4G signal in buildings, coming from Sprint I had non-existent data everywhere, especially indoors.
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In my office I get very weak to no 4G signal, so that the phone is constantly switching from weak 4G down to 3G and causing connection disruptions. I usually just disable LTE and use CDMA only mode to fix this. I have heard that a LTE signal should penetrate inside of buildings better, but apparently my workplace is almost impenetrable. We have a Verizon 3G repeater in the office or I would get no usable signal at all.
Spencer, what kind of speeds are you getting with LTE in the Columbia area? It seems like I got better speeds when I had my Rezound than I'm getting with my Galaxy Nexus.
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My 4g reception sucks. I am rather disappointed. I canceled my ATT account and paid the ETF to switch to verizon for the GN. I am in plano tx which is in the Verizon LTE area and i dont get any signal except in a few spots on the highway. I work in Richardson, which is also in the LTE area, and i dont even have 3g in the building. I dont have any signal when i go deeper into the building away from the windows. I am running stock 4.0.2. I hope this gets better. I am already regretting dropping ATT.
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I've had the exact opposite experience in Dallas. I switched from AT&T a year ago. I couldn't even make calls in my house. (I live in Lakewood) I had to go upstairs or outside. As far as data goes even on just 3G the Verizon speeds are much faster. I've done quite a few AT&T vs Verizon 3G side by side tests and Verzion has won every time. 4G is just a bonus for me. When I get a 4G signal there is no comparison. My coworker and I did a speed test on Tuesday at DFW. His iPhone 4s on AT&T vs my Gnex. I was getting 10-15 mbits down and he was getting like 2-3
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I am having the same exact problem. I thought it was related to airplane mode, I have it turning on at midnight and off at 6am. In the morning, if there is no Wifi and the phone is in 3G, I can't get data. Restarting gets data back, but I'm looking for a more elegant solution than that.
I'm having HUGE data issues, see:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1421440
just a quick question. are you guys running custom ROMs/kernels? if so, please add that in your post.
none at all here.
Hello,
I have a Verizon edition of the Galaxy Nexus, and both my initial phone and my warranty replacement have had the same issue: specifically, they both will occasionally drop all data, be it 3G, 4G, or EDGE. Occasionally they will even drop voice signal altogether. (I've also had the second phone reboot randomly - not often, but it did when I tried to use Wifi Tether, for instance).
This does not happen everywhere, but since my job takes me all over town it happens a reasonable amount, (and notably, not with the Sprint EVO 4G work phone I have). I am based in Sacramento, CA.
My phone is rooted. I have heard that the phone may have issues with switching towers? It is able to reclaim a signal reasonably quickly once it drops, (10-15 seconds) although sometimes I have to do nonsense like switch in and out of airplane mode to force it to grab a 4G signal.
I'm coming up on my return and refund period within a day or so and would like to know if I should dump this phone for an HTC Rezound, or if this is something I can fix by installing the 4.0.3 leaked software.
Thanks in advance for your help.
I know that there is a newer base band you could try flashing, and 4.03 might also fix some of your issues, but be aware that you are pretty much beta testing new technology.
I've never had voice drop on my GNex, but I will occasionally have a drop of data. I believe in my case it is because I am on the cusp of 4g coverage at home, so sometimes it will (barely) connect to the 4g tower, and then disconnect and go back on 3g. When I'm at work and I have solid 4g coverage this issue doesn't present itself.
To remedy the situation temporarily I just switch to CDMA when I'm at home, and if I am in an area where there is 4g and I want faster connection speed I'll re-enable LTE. I know this sounds like a ridiculous solution, but I love my GN too much to return it...again, we are early adopters of new technology.
Only 0.6% of android users are even on ICS - all of this technology is very new.
I believe as Verizon rolls out 4g to more areas that currently only have 3g coverage we will see less and less drops in data (greyed out bars). Hopefully Google/Verizon/Samsung will improve on the radios, etc and make things more smooth for us.
As far as wifi tether goes, I know they JUST got it working on Galaxy Nexus recently, and it is still in beta phase, so I wouldn't count on it being bug free...I had a reboot once when using the beta 10 version, so I don't think what you are experiencing is all that uncommon.
I had a similar issue but only when I was in 4G coverage. I would randomly completely lose signal for about 30 seconds and then it would come back. Usually happened quite often..about 4-5 times an hour. I ended up taking it back for a new one and a new SIM card and haven't had that issue since.
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I've noticed a network behavior I did not have on my EVO 4G. The Note 2 can't switch to 4G when it's busy using 3G. You could be standing under a 4G tower and the phone won't switch if, for instance, you're downloading a file. My EVO 4G would switch between 3G and Wimax no problem.
Is this a hardware limitation? Software problem?
Could be a difference between Wimax and LTE connections. I have never noticed this issue, but I also only saw a Wimax signal a couple of times. I had the OG Evo and then the Evo 3D, but rarely ever saw a Wimax signal. With my Evo LTE, my entire area is blanketed with LTE, so I'm never switching between 3G and LTE in the middle of a download. I'll try to test out this scenario within the next few days with both my Note 2 and my Evo LTE. If I do have any weird findings with either, I'll call Sprint and activate my black Evo LTE and see how it handles the data connection transition. That way I will have tested the specific data transition with 3 different devices, and should be able to come up with a some what conclusive decision with what's going on. If someone else has a Wimax device and is in a Wimax area, it would be nice if they could compare that side by side with their LTE device! I still have my Evo 3D, but like I said earlier, I'm not near a Wimax area for testing...
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Hmmmm. Interesting. I never noticed that behaviour on my NII or EvoLTE. I still have my E4GT laying around so maybe I'll activate it and see what happens. I've been lucky in my area seeing as we had WiMax coverage even before the release of the OG Evo and are pretty well covered with LTE.
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I've noticed OPs issue. The same kinda thing will happen when I am driving away from my home and my phone tries to hang on to my signal booster. Once I actually loose the connection my phone will jump onto 3G and usually by that point I have Pandora opened and trying to play. It wont switch to LTE until either the song is fully buffered (witch in this case doesn't happen because the 3G at this point sucks (connected to tower)) or I go to Airplane Mode and shut off all radios and then turn off Airplane Mode. The LTE will come right up and I have no data issues.
If I'm not near my signal booster, like at work, and I am at my desk getting LTE, when I put my phone in my pocket and walk around it will drop to 3G. When I come back to my desk and try to start using an app that requires data, it wont jump back to LTE until I either close the app that is pulling the data, or do another Airplane Mode toggle.
I think all it is, is just the scan times between searching for an LTE signal (I think like 30 seconds and not every 1 second) to save battery. I could be wrong though. It is annoying to have to go through this routine every day though.
I've never payed attention to it before but now I do see what the op is talking about. Mine won't switch either
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I think it's a bit random in my experience. It's it currently downloading something, it'll stay. But I've seen it switch it though while streaming a movie/show/event. I've had the GN2 get suck where it switch towers, but wasn't really connecting, which required the airplaine mode on/off trick.
spotopolis,
You hit right on the kind of scenario I am experiencing. I'm in the car listening to a streaming podcast or streaming music. And because the car is moving, the phone sometimes switches to 3G and will not get back on to LTE unless I kill all network access. It's like the phone needs a moment to breath before attempting to connect LTE.
This would not bug me so much if 3G had a data rate better than 50kbps. When I'm stuck in 3G, forget streaming or downloading anything. Very frustrating.
Trying to figure out if this is a limit of Note 2, LTE, Sprint's LTE or a bug.
It's an LTE issue. I've experienced the same behavior with 4G when I was in NY last weekend. Soon as I stopped Pandora and 3G went idle 4G came on. And no that is not an issue with Wimax devices. Coming from an E4GT and Evo 3D covered in Wimax coverage here in Hartford CT 4G automatically connects and overrides 3G even if 3G is active. However that's an issue too because the 3G to Wimax handoff sucks which leaves your data hanging for a sec. I usually have to stop my downloads and restart them while on the new 4G connection lol
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It's an LTE issue.
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I thought this was advanced technology. Seems to be a huge detail to miss.
However that's an issue too because the 3G to Wimax handoff sucks which leaves your data hanging for a sec. I usually have to stop my downloads and restart them while on the new 4G connection
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That would be a software issue, not Wimax problem. I had some apps that handled network switches very well. That includes going from cell networks (3G/4G) to WIFI. Perfect example is what I noticed using streaming music on my EVO 4G. (The follow is true for these apps many versions ago.)
1. Slacker, terrible making switch. 99% would stop playback.
2. Pandora, better than Slacker. Could pause during playback but would pickup if network regained soon.
3. Google Music, best of the bunch. Can handle network jumps very well. I think partly due to caching the next song while playing current song.
I thought i was the only one having this issue.... good to know.
I've never had this problem. My n2 has no problem switching from 3g to 4g. When I'm driving while listening to Pandora, I hit areas that only 3g and phone shows 3g. Then afterwards it goes back to 4g with no problem. It does it effortlessly and on a daily. I live in Chicago and we are lte for the most part but I know certain suburbs do not have 4g and my n2 switches without a problem. Guess I'm lucky.
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Interesting thread. I'm seeking an answer too. FWIW I don't own a Note 2 but also noticed this behaviour, with my SGS3. I created a thread some time ago (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1989176) but there was little interest, which surprised me, considering how annoying it can be.