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[Q] US T-mobile G2 in the UK? [SOLVED]

Hey guys, I looked on wikipedia at the G2 specs, and it lists
Connectivity: Quad band GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz and GPRS/EDGE as well as UMTS 1700 2100 MHz, and HSPA+
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I am interested in buying a T-Mobile branded G2 (unlocked of course) from the US, and need to know if it will work in the UK or not. From the specs listed there it will, but wikipedia isn't always accurate of course.
Can anyone please confirm wikipedia is right?

There was another thread about this a few days ago
check it out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11002555

Ah thanks, I didn't see that one when I tried to search.

Traveling to Korea with the S 3

Hey all. I am looking to purchase a galaxy s 3. Would a t mobile galaxy work over seas or do I need an international one? Thanks.

Yes, it will work. The T-Mobile S III has quad-band GSM/EDGE/HSPA+ support.

So in that case id be better off buying one out of contract and using one of the Korean providers when I go over seas? Do you know if the international one would work?

thegameksk said:
So in that case id be better off buying one out of contract and using one of the Korean providers when I go over seas? Do you know if the international one would work?
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Either version will work. Both are quad-band GSM/EDGE/HSPA+. The difference is that the T-Mobile version supports 1700 MHz HSPA+, while the international version ditches that, and supports 900 MHz HSPA+ instead.

aNYthing24 said:
Either version will work. Both are quad-band GSM/EDGE/HSPA+. The difference is that the T-Mobile version supports 1700 MHz HSPA+, while the international version ditches that, and supports 900 MHz HSPA+ instead.
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What exactly does 1700 MHz HSPA+ and 900 MHz HSPA mean??? Everything ive found says GSM phones dont work but those were outdated by a few years. Did GSM phones just start working there recently?

aNYthing24 said:
Yes, it will work. The T-Mobile S III has quad-band GSM/EDGE/HSPA+ support.
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You mean it's penta-band has the extra aws band and it should work in korea if they use the same bands like europe

htc fan89 said:
You mean it's penta-band has the extra aws band and it should work in korea if they use the same bands like europe
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It's not penta-band. It doesn't have 900 MHz HSPA+ support.
thegameksk said:
What exactly does 1700 MHz HSPA+ and 900 MHz HSPA mean??? Everything ive found says GSM phones dont work but those were outdated by a few years. Did GSM phones just start working there recently?
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Those are just bands that the phones support. And GSM is a world standard, it should work in Korea, and HSPA+ should work too as it supports the 2100 MHz band.

Wifi calling is an option too.

AT&T Galaxy Note II only Tri-Band 3G?! No FM Radio?!

So AT&T's website finally has the Note II listed, I noticed it only lists it having Tri-Band 3G (850/1900/2100 MHz) as well as the FM Radio not being listed as a feature. You guys think this is just AT&T software disabling the extra band and the radio or what? I'm kind of disappointed as I was hoping AT&T wouldn't be gimping the Note this time around...

It lists LTE right at the top of the specs.
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All of ATT phones have always been tri-band 3G, what are you complaining about again?

I have the AT&T Note II. How do I check for the FM radio?

I believe there would be an FM Radio app in the app drawer.
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Guys what I'm saying is that the AT&T Note II doesn't support Quad-Band 3G like the international does. I thought they were all supposed to be the same across carriers.

KosanRio said:
Guys what I'm saying is that the AT&T Note II doesn't support Quad-Band 3G like the international does. I thought they were all supposed to be the same across carriers.
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The att one supports LTE, international doesn't. How is that the same?
They are the same as far as CPU, ram, GPU etc. Not radios.

AT&T Note II Specs
I copied these specs, off AT&T'S premier site.
Specifications
Dimensions: 3.17 x 5.95 x 0.37 inches
Weight: 6.35 ounces
Display: 5.5-inch; 1280 x 720 HD Super AMOLED(TM) (264 ppi); 16 million colors
Device eco-rating: 5 Stars. Visit www.att.com/ecospace for additional information.
Operating System: Android(TM)
Processor: 1.6GHz quad-core
Battery: 3100 mAh (removable)
Talk Time: Up to 15 hours
Standby Time: Up to 12.5 days
Technology: GSM/GPRS/EDGE/UMTS/LTE*
Frequency: GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900MHz; UMTS: 850/1900/2100MHz; LTE:* Bands 4 and 17
Data Transmission: 4G
Internal Memory: Up to 16GB
External Memory Card: microSD(TM) up to 64GB (removable)
Near Field Communication (NFC): S Beam (Open)
TTY Compatible
Hearing Aid (HAC) rating: M3
*Limited 4G LTE availability in select markets. 4G speeds not available everywhere. LTE is a trademark of ETSI.
Seems to have all the GSM bands!

antiochasylum said:
The att one supports LTE, international doesn't. How is that the same?
They are the same as far as CPU, ram, GPU etc. Not radios.
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I feel stupid now... I swear I though the International model had LTE for once.

KosanRio said:
I feel stupid now... I swear I though the International model had LTE for once.
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not US..

KosanRio said:
I feel stupid now... I swear I though the International model had LTE for once.
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The N7105 does have LTE, but it doesnt support AT&T bands. The N7100 does not have LTE. Both versions are international.
So you were correct in thinking - don't feel stupid

There are 4 versions of Note:
1. International (+LTE): SGH-7100 / SGH -7105
2. SGH-i317 : ATT+(Rogers+Bell + Telus): HSPA 850/900/1900/2100, LTE: 700/850/1700/1900
3. SCH-i605 : CDMA + LTE 700
4. SGH-T889 : T-Mobile+Mobilicity+Wind : HSPA: 850/900/1700/1900/2100, LTE: 700, 1700
These are from FCC filings
EDIT: I posted about it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1956264
T-Mobile's variant seems to be the better choice even if you are on AT&T based on the FCC filings anyway

According to GSM arenas review of the GN2 there isn't one!
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blognc said:
I have the AT&T Note II. How do I check for the FM radio?
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how? how do you have the phone ???

ianwardell said:
how? how do you have the phone ???
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He got it at the NYC launch event on the 24th. Nice to have press credentials.

ZedZardoz said:
He got it at the NYC launch event on the 24th. Nice to have press credentials.
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Lucky guy! Ill be waiting like the rest of us ,and a bit longer ...I want to make sure there are no bugs like my tf201 has lol.
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Hopefully AT&T didn't hardware disable the FM radio or something...
Anyone know where the FM radio is usually integrated on phones now a days? didn't it used to be part of the Bluetooth chip on smartphones?

Funk2641 said:
All of ATT phones have always been tri-band 3G, what are you complaining about again?
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mr mystery said:
There are 4 versions of Note:
1. International (+LTE): SGH-7100 / SGH -7105
2. SGH-i317 : ATT+(Rogers+Bell + Telus): HSPA 850/900/1900/2100, LTE: 700/850/1700/1900
3. SCH-i605 : CDMA + LTE 700
4. SGH-T889 : T-Mobile+Mobilicity+Wind : HSPA: 850/900/1700/1900/2100, LTE: 700, 1700
These are from FCC filings
EDIT: I posted about it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1956264
T-Mobile's variant seems to be the better choice even if you are on AT&T based on the FCC filings anyway
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Some info in this thread is just plain contradiction. For example, the above two quoted posts contradict to each other. Is AT&T tri-band or quad-band UMTS after all?
It comes down to what to believe, because FCC filings contradicts to what people say and what cellphone website says. For example, phonearena lists the band specs of i-317 as this:
GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz / UMTS 850, 1900, 2100 MHz / LTE 700 MHz Class 17, 1700/2100 MHz
Here, i-317 is quad-band GSM and tri-band 3G (not what FCC filing says).
Also, the website lists T889 as this:
GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz / UMTS 850, 1700/2100, 2100 MHz / NO LTE
Here, T889 has 3G 850, AWS, 2100, which also is not what FCC filing says, besides there is no LTE support.
Some information here has got to be misinformation, but which one is it?

cswithxda said:
Some info in this thread is just plain contradiction. For example, the above two quoted posts contradict to each other. Is AT&T tri-band or quad-band UMTS after all?
It comes down to what to believe, because FCC filings contradicts to what people say and what cellphone website says. For example, phonearena lists the band specs of i-317 as this:
GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz / UMTS 850, 1900, 2100 MHz / LTE 700 MHz Class 17, 1700/2100 MHz
Here, i-317 is quad-band GSM and tri-band 3G (not what FCC filing says).
Also, the website lists T889 as this:
GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz / UMTS 850, 1700/2100, 2100 MHz / NO LTE
Here, T889 has 3G 850, AWS, 2100, which also is not what FCC filing says, besides there is no LTE support.
Some information here has got to be misinformation, but which one is it?
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I agree on the contradiction for sure, what FCC tested vs what is being listed are different. The OP I had had the links to the FCC filings as well but I guess they we against the rules because mods removed the links.

Ye I wasn't giving doubt on the credibility of your source. It's just that i'm kind of confused by all kinds of information. Both phonearena and pdadb (checked just now) shows that T889 has no LTE support and even more interesting, pdadb lists i317 as quad-band UMTS, which phonearena lists as tri-band... I know it sounds like a nerd but it's driving me crazy as I'm doing research and decide on which version to get LOL
For now, I guess I'll only need to know if it's ever possible to flash N7100 rom onto i317 or T889, if not, i'm giving up LTE and stay with faster/earlier European OTA updates, like *DBT* :good:

[Q] Difference between LTE and non-LTE, US and European version and LTE frequencies ?

Dear xda Members and / or galaxy note 2 Users,
I'm a bit confused about the various versions of the Note 2.
In a few days I'll visit Florida and intend to buy the LTE version from Walmart.
ht.tp://ww w.walmart. com/ip/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-II-Smartphone-Titanium-Gray/22374238
(I don't know if shoplinks are allowed, but you can't buy it directly here and i hope you can accept it anyway this time)
However, I need to know whether the phone works in Europe/Germany and with which communication standards.
Is there a difference between the US and European GT-N7105?
on ht.tp://e n.wikipedia. org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_Note_II i found various versions called
AWS phone
CDMA/EV-DO phone
TD-SCDMA phone
Dual-cell HSPA phone.
and the LTE where they tell that it would be kind of an "International" phone.
"Most of the variants support GSM/GPRS/EDGE in the 850 Mhz, 900 Mhz, 1.9 Ghz, and 2.1 Ghz bands; and UMTS/HSPA+21 in 850 Mhz, 900 Mhz, 1.9 Ghz, and 2.1 Ghz"
Does the version i found on the walmart page support UMTS? there are only specifications that it can handle GSM and LTE, but not which LTE Bands.
(I think I need support for 800 MHz, 1800 MHz and/or 2600 MHz in Western Europe)
correct me if i'm wrong with any statement and enlighten the confusion for me if pssible
Thanks in advance !
PS: I'm not allowed to post outside links here, so I addet space characters before .com and .org and in the www and the "en" and dots between the ht.tp's. remove them before copying.

F400S/K/L Versions (Hardware Comparison) and usage on AT&T

Hola folks!
After finding enough screenshots/video reviews, I am beginning to think that from a hardware perspective the S and L variants are identical (including supported bands), whereas the K is only slightly different from S/L.
Any images of the back cover off on the K models (Olleh) will show "F400 0425 K" indicating the hardware is the "K" variant. (If you watch the review video http://www.androidcentral.com/lg-g3-review, you will notice this info up at the top on the backside, right above the camera.) UPDATE: Here is another link with an image http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/06/lg-g3-review-a-great-phone-with-way-too-many-pixels/#image-4
On the S/L (SK Telecom, LG U+) models, they say "F400 0423 S/L" on the SK Telecom model ("S" variant), and "F400 0425 S/L" on the LG U+ model ("L" variant). You can find images of the "S" model with engadget's review (http://www.engadget.com/gallery/lg-g3-review/2676959/#!slide=2676963), and images of the "L" model with ubreakifix's F400L teardown (http://www.ubreakifix.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/ubif-g3-21.jpg).
(Thanks and kudos to the review sites and teardown site for the images.)
As an owner of the F400S, I can tell you that all 3 variants will run on AT&T LTE (as a lot of our LTE is on Band 17 - 700 MHz spectrum). I was able to load my F400S with the TOT and DLL files of all 3 variants (currently waiting on getting it back to the "S" variant once the DLL is posted), and all 3 variants will connect to AT&T with no issues (for those of you that plan on importing like I did).
So for those of you who managed to brick your new G3, as long as you can ADB into it, you can edit your build.prop file with the corresponding korean variant model info, and load any stock image. As @wolfgart has posted a great thread with the TOTs and DLLs, I recommend swinging through there for more info. If you have a K variant, load the K TOT and DLL, and you are fine.
For those of us with S/L variants--with the above info and enough tinkering in the hidden menus of all 3 variants, I can tell you that from a hardware perspective these two models are nearly identical. From a modem/supported frequencies perspective, the S and L variants support the exact same frequencies--meaning, if you bricked your S or L version, you can restore it with an S or L TOT and DLL (after editing build.prop if needed) and you will still get all of your original hardware supported bands/frequencies. This is critical for those of you using LTE Band 5 to connect to your data... (should not be the case for any US AT&T users...).
UPDATE: in the 'Android Development' section, wolfgart's thread with the TOTs and DLLs have been updated to now include the files for all 3 models. So unless you know what you are doing with a build.prop edit, probably best to stick with what came with the phones for those who are new to this stuff.
The main difference between the S/L and K phones in frequency/band support is that LTE Band 8 is supported on the K model only, whereas you will get LTE Band 5 support on the S/L models. All other bands and frequencies (WCDMA/GSM) are the same across all 3 models. All 3 also support LTE Band 17, and will connect to AT&T in the US.
Took me a while to figure this out, but I had a long weekend

Cool! nice to know, thanks for the well explained post

Any thoughts about the L/S version suporting LTE Band 7?
Thanks

gsanches said:
Any thoughts about the L/S version suporting LTE Band 7?
Thanks
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Unfortunately, I don't connect to LTE with band 7 so I can't say much on that. However, just based on the hidden menus in both (I am using the L version on my S variant phone at the moment), they both have the same listings of 1,3,5,7 for supported bands.
LTE 700, 850, 1800, 2100, 2600 (Band 17, Band 5, Band 3, Band 1, and Band 7 respectively)
UMTS 850, 1900, 2100
GSM 800, 900, 1800, 1900
The above are the fully supported bands on the S and L variants.
The below are the fully supported bands on the K variant.
LTE 700, 900, 1800, 2100, 2600 (Band 17, Band 8, Band 3, Band 1, and Band 7 respectively)
UMTS 850, 1900, 2100
GSM 800, 900, 1800, 1900
I don't have the K variant on my device now, but I recall the only band difference is that it supports LTE band 8 (900 MHz) instead of LTE band 5 (850 MHz), but other supported bands are the same. LTE Band 5 is one of the primary bands for both SK Telecom and LG U+ (which partially explains why the two phones have nearly identical hardware, including modem support).
Hope this answers your question. As support for those frequencies are built in (and it makes sense on LG as a mass manufacturer--They can use the same modem and just rebrand it like they did in Korea for the S and L variants).

Why is the S one more expensive than the L?

gsanches said:
Why is the S one more expensive than the L?
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That, my friend, is a question you will have to ask LG and SK Telecom. We sorta see that in the US every so often with "special editions" that aren't really that special and they will add an extra 100ish.
Off-contract, LG U+ is the most affordable right now, with SK Telecom right around $700 USD. With markup and shipping, etc. eBayers are selling it for $750-800.
Also, you have to remember the G3 is a hot commodity even in Korea right now. Had some friends who thought it was funny I got a phone overseas before they even bothered joining the bandwagon.
So though I can't say for sure why exactly it's more expensive, I can definitely say it has to do with the fact that the phone is still only 3 weeks old

And none of those 3 will work on T-Mobile LTE which needs 1700 and 2100Mhz most of time.
There are some spots with 900Mhz support though.
But as much as I want G3, I'll wait for the T-Mo version.

Yeah...I'm a proud owner of a Htc One M7...I have been thinking a lot and decided that it's time to change. I'm comparing the M8, the Z2, the G3 for a long time and finally think that this last one will be the one...unfortunately it's still very soon to easily find information regarding this phone online...
Your information helped me a lot...now I know exactly which variant to buy :fingers-crossed:...thank you guys very much

gsanches said:
Yeah...I'm a proud owner of a Htc One M7...I have been thinking a lot and decided that it's time to change. I'm comparing the M8, the Z2, the G3 for a long time and finally think that this last one will be the one...unfortunately it's still very soon to easily find information regarding this phone online...
Your information helped me a lot...now I know exactly which variant to buy :fingers-crossed:...thank you guys very much
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It looks like you are planning on doing the same upgrade I did. I still have my M7 as my backup , but definitely gotta say I am loving my G3.

That's amazing man...I've been a HTC fan since the Sensation...but currently I feel that they are been left behind...
I'm really sorry, but other brands are offering a lot more for the same price.
The HTC will always win in design and the quality of the phone's body, screen and, of course, sound!...but they are losing in the rest...UI, camera, battery life definitely...it's just sad
Nice to know that you're enjoying your G3...I hope I'll be as happy as you are in a few weeks...and judging by how much I've researched about it...I'm sure I'll love it!!!
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question
sorry, which of these three variants brings FM radio? K, L, S, and if for example buy the K version, if you install the L or S variant fm radio works?

I´m about to buy a G3 and found some model have an antenna, is that correct?, anybody knows what tv frequencies can handle?. Thanks!

G3 HAPPY said:
sorry, which of these three variants brings FM radio? K, L, S, and if for example buy the K version, if you install the L or S variant fm radio works?
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From my research, none of the korean models (F400 S/K/L) support FM radio. Instead of an FM radio tuner, they are offered with Korea's DMB tuner, for korean DMB support.
I have only seen DMB function while in Korea and Japan. Anywhere else in the world, you will have to check with local providers, as some countries will charge for DMB as a service (just like satellite television).
Hope this helps

ferluci said:
I´m about to buy a G3 and found some model have an antenna, is that correct?, anybody knows what tv frequencies can handle?. Thanks!
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The only frequencies it can support is anything broadcasted as DMB. Certain countries offer DMB subscription services, but you will have to research if it is offered where you live.
In the US, DMB is unavailable so I just have a nice long antenna that people crack up at in the year 2014, but completely unusable where I am. I just tell them its for better service as a side joke lol

mikeythedude said:
The only frequencies it can support is anything broadcasted as DMB. Certain countries offer DMB subscription services, but you will have to research if it is offered where you live.
In the US, DMB is unavailable so I just have a nice long antenna that people crack up at in the year 2014, but completely unusable where I am. I just tell them its for better service as a side joke lol
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OK! Thank you

Anyone know which one is the best for AT&T
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salvador1980 said:
Anyone know which one is the best for AT&T
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Any of them will do. I would say go for the one that gives you the best price. At this point, enough AT&T users have gotten their hands on all 3 variants. Most can get LTE through band 17 (700 MHz) which is available on all 3 phones.

Will the D855 variant (with LTE 700MHz) be able to use on AT&T (band class 17) or Verizon (band class 13)?
Or to be more specific, will the D855 cover all 700MHz US band class (12, 13, 14, and 17)?
Thanks!

kittiyut said:
Will the D855 variant (with LTE 700MHz) be able to use on AT&T (band class 17) or Verizon (band class 13)?
Or to be more specific, will the D855 cover all 700MHz US band class (12, 13, 14, and 17)?
Thanks!
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You would have to check which specific band class of 700 MHz the D855 would be capable of connecting to. As I do not have the D855, and specs are varied on the internet right now, I cannot say for sure.
The FCC had ruled four separate band classes to operate on the 700 MHz spectrum in America--Band 17 700 MHz capable modems cannot connect to any of the other 700 MHz band classes and vice versa. (It was claimed that they did not want to have any network interference issues. Carriers purchased the rights to access certain chunks of the 700 MHz spectrum, and they are isolated to those carriers only.)
I am seeing 700MHz (B28) support on D855 models, but I believe that might be related to certain LTE-A rollouts in Europe (meaning it may not be able to connect to current 700 MHz bands in the US (as the US does not have LTE-A networks at the moment) and new band classes are issued for LTE-A (i.e. Band 28).

mikeythedude said:
The only frequencies it can support is anything broadcasted as DMB. Certain countries offer DMB subscription services, but you will have to research if it is offered where you live.
In the US, DMB is unavailable so I just have a nice long antenna that people crack up at in the year 2014, but completely unusable where I am. I just tell them its for better service as a side joke lol
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Does the antenna stand out much? Or is it hidden? Thanks