Anyone use nfc? I still have yet to find a use for it. If you use it then what do you do with it. If you don't then do you feel it is useless?
at least we have it... some dont
Not using it yet.....
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Yeah, for now it's pretty useless in the U.S. Other countries are using it though, we have just fallen behind as far as NFC goes.
NFC doesn't seem to work with CM7 on my phone, it just straight doesn't turn on. I haven't seen it in the list of "not working" stuff in the threads, but I'm not sure what I'd do with it yet, so I'm not too worried
I use it, I bought my own programmable tags from tagsfordroid.com , I have one stuck in my car mount so as soon as I put it in the car mount, it goes to driving mode , turns wifi off and bluetooth on ...
I made another so as soon as I get home it is right next to my desk, so it turns wifi on connects , turns bluetooth off .
Yeah these are mundane uses but until we get google wallet or something like it, real world uses are slim to none ...
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I use it, I bought my own programmable tags from tagsfordroid.com , I have one stuck in my car mount so as soon as I put it in the car mount, it goes to driving mode , turns wifi off and bluetooth on ...
I made another so as soon as I get home it is right next to my desk, so it turns wifi on connects , turns bluetooth off .
Yeah these are mundane uses but until we get google wallet or something like it, real world uses are slim to none ...
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I've been playing with it also with simple routine stuff like this. As soon as I get more tags i'm going to make some for checkins at my favorite hangouts... etc. But to date the most useful tasks I use NFC are checking the balance on my Clipper Card and Door entry access.
I've been trying the ports of CM7 but as soon as I've checked it out I bounce back to a backup because it won't work under CM7 and I need that door entry access.
Cheers
Everything is release first in other countries. Nfc sucks here in the US
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tcboo said:
I use it, I bought my own programmable tags from tagsfordroid.com , I have one stuck in my car mount so as soon as I put it in the car mount, it goes to driving mode , turns wifi off and bluetooth on ...
I made another so as soon as I get home it is right next to my desk, so it turns wifi on connects , turns bluetooth off .
Yeah these are mundane uses but until we get google wallet or something like it, real world uses are slim to none ...
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Ty for link and advice! cool now i know what i can use it for
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Everything is release first in other countries. Nfc sucks here in the US
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that´s not right, in the us you can already pay at Mc Donalds with nfc (Nexus S 4g). For example in Germany, we don´t even have nfc phones.
Is it some becauze I dont anything, anywhere that nfc ready in cali
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It's useless, I just turn it off...not worth mentioning if a phone even has it.
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It's a shame so many people think NFC is "useless" - they don't see the potential it holds. If the iPhone5 comes with NFC I guarantee we'll see real-world adoption very quickly.
I wrote a really big blog post on my personal blog about the potential of NFC.
There's also some great demos showing what it can be used for on this Google I/O talk.
Buy some blank NFC tags and let your imagination guide you.
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It's a shame so many people think NFC is "useless" - they don't see the potential it holds. If the iPhone5 comes with NFC I guarantee we'll see real-world adoption very quickly.
I wrote a really big blog post on my personal blog about the potential of NFC.
There's also some great demos showing what it can be used for on this Google I/O talk.
Buy some blank NFC tags and let your imagination guide you.
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It pains me to agree that if the next iphone (iphone 6? iphone 4sx?) has NFC that it'd become more mainstream. To be honest if I say that my phone is capable of nfc noone knows what the hell I'm talking about
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Everything is release first in other countries. Nfc sucks here in the US
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what do Euros and Asians use NFC for?
If the iPhone5 comes with NFC I guarantee we'll see real-world adoption very quickly.[/QUOTE said:
That is very true, everything comes first with iPhones. Just example, iPhone can start up some cars that are synced with.. Android doesn't have an app like that..
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jessejames111981 said:
It pains me to agree that if the next iphone (iphone 6? iphone 4sx?) has NFC that it'd become more mainstream. To be honest if I say that my phone is capable of nfc noone knows what the hell I'm talking about
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Worst part is iphone users will act like apple pioneered and invented NFC.
I disagree. I think you will see a lot of the users of older iPhones will upgrade and if NFC is incorporated into the phone those pesky Apple Fanboys you love to deride will be advocates for the cause. The monolithic platform will work in it's favor unlike Android phones that have NFC built in and functional but crippled because the platform is fragmented by the carriers. All those users coming online at once will be what gets us to critical mass... but I doubt they will claim it as an apple discovery.
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but I doubt they will claim it as an apple discovery.
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I disagree. I have an all out apple fanboy at work that swears the drop down notification bar was invented by apple even though it just got implemented in ios5. Swears that apple pioneered 4g. Invented the touchscreen. And a few others.
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I'm a bit confused. What exactly does this NFC chip do? What can I use it for on the daily? What apps are recommended for the chip?
right now nothing useful
after ICS 4.0 then we actually get to use it more often
Not 100% sure, but it might be useful for the latest version of Paypal. It seems to support NFC for transfers between friends.
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NFC (Near Field Communications) will allow you to pay for items via your phone instead of your wallet. Many foreign countries have already accepted their phones as credit cards replacements; Japan for example.
But, it does more than just pay for items. QR codes that we just started using, requires you to use the camera and it will bring you to a site or direct you to an advertisement. With NFC, you can simply hold your phone to an advertisement (that is NFC capable) and it will divert you to site/advertisement. If you are in the U.S, you can go to your nearest T-Mobile store and they should have a NFC sticker you can try it out on.
but in North America, we barely have any place that is actually using it for mainstream
it's such a rare view to ever see or find anything with a NFC tag to scan
We are still catching up. I hear in Japan you can walk up to a soda machine and buy a soda with your phone.
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but in North America, we barely have any place that is actually using it for mainstream
it's such a rare view to ever see or find anything with a NFC tag to scan
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Yeah, it's understandable why though. We are way behind in terms of technology compared to other countries. Just about 6 years ago, we didn't even have 3G yet, but we are slowly catching up.
NFC is not garnering alot of attention because Americans are so afraid of the consequences of such technology. They are worried about people stealing information through NFC or hacking their accounts through NFC, but many don't understand that it is much easier to pick pocket your wallet or rob you than it is to hack your phone to steal your accounts.
Hopefully we'll catch up soon though Google Wallet is currently testing NFC in various markets and offering a 10$ credit for you to buy anything in the store they are testing it in.
I think people don't realize is they have been using NFC for years with Paypass, now Paywave, and now Interac Flash is coming out based on the same tech.
Gas stations have been using it too like Petro Canada ... actually most places I've been too here in Canada have NFC pay terminals so we just need Google Wallet to be available here and we can go nuts.
I don't think that's NFC, the ones that are used in Credit cards are RFID.
Sorry if this seems like a dumb question, but something I was curious about...
Though it's still in the "anticipated" technology phase, there's a lot of buzz regarding NFC with various review sites praising or criticizing newly released phones for the inclusion or lack of NFC respectively.
NFC, like any other communications technology, needs both the hardware and software to control it, right? Our SGS2's seem to have the NFC "chips" (not sure what the appropriate term for the hardware is) in the battery (not just based on what's written on the battery, but what the T-Mo SGS2 manual indicates).
Based on this, couldn't any phone out there with a user-replaceable battery (read: any non-Apple phone) be pretty easily upgradable with a replacement battery pack and firmware update in the future? If that's the case, it doesn't seem like so much should be read into whether a phone launches with NFC capability or not.
But like I said, I don't know much about the technical aspects, so I might just sound like a moron.
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Sorry if this seems like a dumb question, but something I was curious about...
Though it's still in the "anticipated" technology phase, there's a lot of buzz regarding NFC with various review sites praising or criticizing newly released phones for the inclusion or lack of NFC respectively.
NFC, like any other communications technology, needs both the hardware and software to control it, right? Our SGS2's seem to have the NFC "chips" (not sure what the appropriate term for the hardware is) in the battery (not just based on what's written on the battery, but what the T-Mo SGS2 manual indicates).
Based on this, couldn't any phone out there with a user-replaceable battery (read: any non-Apple phone) be pretty easily upgradable with a replacement battery pack and firmware update in the future? If that's the case, it doesn't seem like so much should be read into whether a phone launches with NFC capability or not.
But like I said, I don't know much about the technical aspects, so I might just sound like a moron.
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The NFC chip requires it to be integrated into the phone in order for it to work. The NFC on the battery most likely states that it is optimized for NFC, I don't think there is a NFC chip inside the battery.
There are already 2-3 threads discussing NFC in this forum. One of them includes some fairly detailed testing about what is working atm.
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The NFC chip requires it to be integrated into the phone in order for it to work. The NFC on the battery most likely states that it is optimized for NFC, I don't think there is a NFC chip inside the battery.
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if you replace the battery with another one that does not have NFC, your NFC option will get greyed out in Settings
so they battery might not be the NFC chip itself, but might very well behave like the antennae as found on the Nexus S battery door
I didn't know if I should start a new trad or ask here, but didn't want to clutter the forum.
So I'm seeing that they are making a big deal with the Galaxy Nexus for Verizon on not having Google Wallet in it.
My question is-
Is it part of ICS?
If not any idea of when it will be release?
Will it work on our phones since it has a NFC chip?
Not that there is alot of places to use it at, but it would be fun to have for the few places to show off, lol.
Wallet doesn't seem like part of ICS
already played with ICS on many devices, and don't see wallet included
you can always install the hacked version manually
yes it works
Link please
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last i saw it, it was on the Nexus S forum
the new Facebook app suppose to support tap to add friend with NFC, but I don't have any friend with NFC to try with.
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last i saw it, it was on the Nexus S forum
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Ok thanks, Ill take a look.
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Since there were people who were still asking questions about NFC I figured I'd throw together a quick video demonstrating real life NFC use. These are all real purchases (though I purposely kept the cost down lol).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ2pSzpnY_g
Nice video.
hmm everytime i try it at 7-11 nothing happens. Im using the extended battery and on cm9 kang rom
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Have you considered the dev broke nfc? Have you verified nfc works? Does your extended batery have an nfc antenna in it?
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Nice video.
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Thank you.
teng247 said:
hmm everytime i try it at 7-11 nothing happens. Im using the extended battery and on cm9 kang rom
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If you're using a generic extended battery that is most likely the problem, as I believe the antenna for the NFC functionality is located in the battery. If you are using the correct battery then it is quite possible that the dev of that particular ROM may not have it functional yet.
I use NFC all the time, alot more than I expected because of Wallet. Alot more places take it than you think and being able to add money to a prepaid card is cool too.
just wish there was a way to top it up internationally!
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just wish there was a way to top it up internationally!
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Why can't it be topped up internationally?
I'll never forget my first time I used it at a BP gas station to get smokes. The cashier did the WTF??!?!? Face expression when I took out my phone and paid for it. I tried to keep a straight face until I exited the place than I bursted laughing lol. I should have recorded it.
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Good vid, looks snappy. Cannot wait for this in the UK. Hopefully we won't have herpaderps behind the counter that don't understand that you can pay with your phone (and get funny about it), although sadly I can see this being a problem for a while
Another nice video of yours.
It went strait to my apple fan-boy friends in facebook, please don't sue me lol.
Krijs said:
Good vid, looks snappy. Cannot wait for this in the UK. Hopefully we won't have herpaderps behind the counter that don't understand that you can pay with your phone (and get funny about it), although sadly I can see this being a problem for a while
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Thought it could be used here, haven't people been using NFC at McDonalds. A few years ago there was a huge trial of NFC in London. I'm sure the stuff is still in place there. (I have GWallet on My nexus here in the UK but never used it)
There's a large scale trial in Nice (France) where I live, and they sell NFC phones (a modified Galaxy S II among others) with the ability to add your credit card, pay your bus fare with your phone bill, know exactly when the next bus arrives by tapping your phone on the NFC tag at your stop, or learn stuff about monuments and landmarks by tapping your phone on a NFC tag placed on a glass pane. Pretty cool stuff!
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Since there were people who were still asking questions about NFC I figured I'd throw together a quick video demonstrating real life NFC use. These are all real purchases (though I purposely kept the cost down lol).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ2pSzpnY_g
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Nice video! I used mine the first time the other day at a 7-11. I was concerned because I had put the new extended battery in and my OtterBox case on. Worked like a champ. I really like being able to pay that way. I recommend downloading the PayPass Locator app from the market to help find locations.
Two questions though, at Home Depot when it said to show your card what did the cashier do? Also, did you hit cancel when it said to enter the pin and run it as credit?
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Another nice video of yours.
It went strait to my apple fan-boy friends in facebook, please don't sue me lol.
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LMAO! What did they say?
cyberpyr8 said:
Nice video! I used mine the first time the other day at a 7-11. I was concerned because I had put the new extended battery in and my OtterBox case on. Worked like a champ. I really like being able to pay that way. I recommend downloading the PayPass Locator app from the market to help find locations.
Two questions though, at Home Depot when it said to show your card what did the cashier do? Also, did you hit cancel when it said to enter the pin and run it as credit?
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I had to explain to her that there was no physical card to show. I explained to her how NFC works and she still wasn't buying it lol. So I had to open up the Wallet app and show her the picture of the virtual card to further explain it. Finally she understood (somewhat) and let it go through....the funny thing was it was only a 34 cent purchase! lmao.
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Good vid, looks snappy. Cannot wait for this in the UK. Hopefully we won't have herpaderps behind the counter that don't understand that you can pay with your phone (and get funny about it), although sadly I can see this being a problem for a while
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Wish we could use it in the UK, would be amazing to use as a Oyster card too...
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LMAO! What did they say? ..
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Not single a word lol
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Do you have the Otterbox defender series case? I didn't get the extended battery because I thought it wouldn't fit.
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How do you know the place your at accepts NFC payment? I really wanna try this out
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total360 said:
Wish we could use it in the UK, would be amazing to use as a Oyster card too...
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London Transport will be soon http://www.nfcworld.com/2011/07/12/38537/transport-for-london-to-accept-nfc-payments-from-2012/
The Barclay card trial of NFC in London a few years ago included London Underground etc.
Of course, not complicated programmed NFC cards like opening an app and executing an activity, but instead reading a simple.vCard or email or website address or quick connect to WiFi network.
Will those work cross OS? Isn't it just sending raw data which the OS uses? Or is this another gap between android and iPhone?
I suppose my question is what kind of compatibility are we going to see?
Also: I can't wait to watch how apple makes NFC so popular because everyone will have it thanks to apple's popularity, while android has had it for such a long time now. -_-;
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Of course, not complicated programmed NFC cards like opening an app and executing an activity, but instead reading a simple.vCard or email or website address or quick connect to WiFi network.
Will those work cross OS? Isn't it just sending raw data which the OS uses? Or is this another gap between android and iPhone?
I suppose my question is what kind of compatibility are we going to see?
Also: I can't wait to watch how apple makes NFC so popular because everyone will have it thanks to apple's popularity, while android has had it for such a long time now. -_-;
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Assuming Apple doesn't do something insane and sticks to standards, yes. Text, URI, vCard and Smart Poster tags are all standards.
Check out today's article on anandtech, it,looks like the iPhone 5 will not be sporting nfc.
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What.
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Check out today's article on anandtech, it,looks like the iPhone 5 will not be sporting nfc.
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This article focuses solely on how NFC antennas are implemented in Android. Take a look at Nokia's antennas for small antennas that have been implemented in the top of phones for a long time now as well as other compact antenna implementations.
I hope google patents nfc before apple sues them ..
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iOS6 doesn't support NFC thus the iPhone 5/6/New (w/e it's called) will not unless they have changed their mind lastminute dot com, apparently Apple prefers to not be in a first mover position, according to Wikipedia.
Perhaps with the iPad 4 (aka the New New iPad) they'll bring NFC and an update to iOS6.
Who cares anyway. It's Apple.
Apple won't be able to sue them because NFC has been around quite a while and there are plenty of companies "in" on the technology, even if they purchase the patent(s) there is prior art and thus would (in a normal, non-Applefied country) nullify their patent claims.
How does apple paybook or whatever it is work if not by NFC?
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How does apple paybook or whatever it is work if not by NFC?
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It's just an App you sign into and add different services and use wirelessly, a sort of work around until they eventually shove NFC in their phones.
i suppose any NFC reader is able to read any NFC tag...whether it understands what to do with the instruction is another story. NFC Task Launcher should try to get its instruction set to become a standard and then all phones could at least attempt to follow the standard.
Based on the information provided today at the Apple event, i would say that information written by an Android device will NOT be able to be read by the iPhone5. That POS will not have any NFC capabilities.
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Based on the information provided today at the Apple event, i would say that information written by an Android device will NOT be able to be read by the iPhone5. That POS will not have any NFC capabilities.
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Maybe they will invent NFC next year. Lets give them time, its not easy to be revolutionary. Invention takes patience.
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Maybe they will invent NFC next year. Lets give them time, its not easy to be revolutionary. Invention takes patience.
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I'm not sure if you're serious, sarcastic, or a retard....in that order.
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I'm not sure if you're serious, sarcastic, or a retard....in that order.
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Sarcastic.....
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I got sarcastic too
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Apple prob avoided it so google couldn't pull an apple move and say 'make your own phones'.
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Iphone 5 haven't NFC! :highfive:
Having Cross OS NFC would be pretty cool.
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Having Cross OS NFC would be pretty cool.
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Some blackberry phones have NFC.
Windows Phone 8 supports NFC, but I don't know which handsets support it.
Sounds like Apple is last to the party.
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Apple won't be able to sue them because NFC has been around quite a while and there are plenty of companies "in" on the technology.
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That's what we thought about rounded corners.
Ive been thinking over this past couple days over a few things since the launch of iphone 5. One thing which caught my attention was lack of NFC in iphones 5th edition.
So I have NFC in my GS3 and its a cool feature to tell people about but I havent used it for anything. It's an upcoming technology and for now its nothing more useful than playing with nfc tags (which is fun). But would lack of NFC hurt anyone. How much would u have missed it if it wasnt in ur GS3?
I know some of us have been able to hack gwallet but i dont think a company like samsung makes decison based on some of us who can fully utilize a technology
(If u dont like my qn dont hate me, dont call me isheep or other names as ive never owned any iphone)
Looking for a healthy discussion
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I haven't used it either. Don't feel bad its not that big of a deal. What's the point of putting technology in a phone if it can't be used in practical life situations.
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the people that work at Apple are smart. Their stock is up right, now. But, they are on their way out.
They don't have the vision. Especially without Jobs to keep the public happy overpaying for apps and songs
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Well, I think NFC is an upcoming technology, and like any other before that, the success of a new technology depends on various factors such as adoption rate, business value added, ease of use, and the support of technology consumer in his case merchants and end user.
If Apple put NFC in their latest iphone, that will boost the adoption rate as like it or not they have millions users. However even without apple's support of NFC, if most of other smartphone manufacturer especially android put NFC in the phone and merchants start to accept NFC as mode of payment, I believe apple will put NFC in the next release of iphone.
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It's better to have it not need it.. than to need it not have it..
What bad is it doing us?
Very good point but I guess apple likes to prepare its user for an upcoming technology and then gradually guide them into its usage and then make money off of them, which they r doing thru passbook. Which isnt a bad way of selling a service coz my 60 yr old dad wont understand nfc netime if I throw my gs3 at him.
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I love NFC. I use my Google wallet wherever I can and using android beam is really cool.
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thanks but no thanks. I dont need it and dont want it. If your that lazy that you cant carry a wallet , you deserve to have your financial and personal data stolen which can happen if you lose your phone. you dont even need to have your phone stole for your info to get stolen. It happens all the time eith nfc chips on credit cards.
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thanks but no thanks. I dont need it and dont want it. If your that lazy that you cant carry a wallet , you deserve to have your financial and personal data stolen which can happen if you lose your phone. you dont even need to have your phone stole for your info to get stolen. It happens all the time eith nfc chips on credit cards.
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Well I pray to God that doesn't happen and thankful it hasn't. So far I am enjoying my NFC chip
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kobe4rings said:
thanks but no thanks. I dont need it and dont want it. If your that lazy that you cant carry a wallet , you deserve to have your financial and personal data stolen which can happen if you lose your phone. you dont even need to have your phone stole for your info to get stolen. It happens all the time eith nfc chips on credit cards.
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You could make an argument like that about anything. If you take vitamins for instance, I could say "If you're too lazy to eat the proper foods to get your vitamins, you deserve to die of malnutrition".
Back on topic, I don't ever use NFC but mainly because no one accepts it. Apple could have changed that, it'd have been a "magical" and "revolutionary" new technology.
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I don't have an S3 but I do know a little bit about the nfc card. As stated people who know what they are doing can steal your info from the chip. But the answer is aluminum. The chips cannot be read through it. Just like the "Aluma-Wallets" shown on tv, and the aluminum and tin mixture that is used prevents any connections to the chip. If someone could come out with an aluminum case for the S3 (there may already be one knowing this flaw) the chip would be safe. Or even a belt holster, that way you can still use the function of it but only when you want to.
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kobe4rings said:
thanks but no thanks. I dont need it and dont want it. If your that lazy that you cant carry a wallet , you deserve to have your financial and personal data stolen which can happen if you lose your phone. you dont even need to have your phone stole for your info to get stolen. It happens all the time eith nfc chips on credit cards.
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Google Wallet ins't broadcasting your CC data over NFC all the time; you have to login to it and select the card you want to use. Then you swipe your phone by the reader and confirm the charge on the screen.
If my phone is lost/stolen, I have a PIN to login to the phone, another PIN to activate Google Wallet, and Cerebus running under root to allow me to remotely find it, take pictures of the person holding it, and wipe the phone's internal and SD memory; I don't have any kind of that security on my $10 wallet.
I would also much rather use NFC for purchases than to hand my credit card over to a restaurant server and let them go in the back and take pictures of the front & back of it with their cell phones.
And if you have a good enough bank it takes 5 minutes on the phone to put those funds right back where they belong if someone stole your credit card information from your phone like that. I stopped carrying cash 6 years ago. If this technology takes the only thing I'll need to carry is my phone with my driver's license wedged in the case.
Credit card data isn't stored on the phone. Purchases are authorized through a virtual Mastercard through Google and then Google processes that payment to your card. Your personal CC info is never transfered from the NFC on your phone.
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kobe4rings said:
thanks but no thanks. I dont need it and dont want it. If your that lazy that you cant carry a wallet , you deserve to have your financial and personal data stolen which can happen if you lose your phone. you dont even need to have your phone stole for your info to get stolen. It happens all the time eith nfc chips on credit cards.
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What if you loose your wallet? To use Google wallet you need a pin to log in, plus Google wallet it's not on all the time, you need to log in and choose which card to use, but if you loose your wallet, most places don't ask for I'd so they can use the crap out of your card before you realize you lost it.
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I Definitely Think nfc is still a burgeoning technology, that just hasnt hit its stride, but its picking up, and now is the right time to have it, as its adoption rate will build over the next two years... The general life expectancy or our phones.
The thing ng with apple is they dont take risks ... They are slow and safe to adopt, and usually only do it, after a technology and its usefulness have been proven. Theyre strength is their ability to take a proven technology and reinvent it in away that is simplified and easy to use for the masses. So they wont take a risks on nfc yet... But they are slowly building the services to rely on it, once they do deploy. And deployment will only be after devices like ours have proven its usefulness.
That said, i myself am weary of using it for cc purposes... But i love it for other purposes such as data transfer, i.e. Android beam, S-beam, etc... Ive found them very useful and have used my nfc chip ti share data from my device to others with ease, more often than i expected. Also i believe with nfc, itll make wireless charging our devices possible, and im waiting to try that as well... So even w/o the cc stuff.. Nfc is proving itself to me everyday... Its just up to the user to determine the best use of it, for themselves.
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Much like every other new technology... why spend (and waste) money implementing it when it'd be nothing more than a novelty with no practical use. It's the reason they just now added LTE to the iPhone; until now no company has had a respectable LTE network. Apple doesn't need to gamble.
Back to the topic though, NFC is useless right now. It's nothing more than a novelty that you need to go out of your way to use on a daily basis. I absolutely love the idea of never having to carry a wallet again and would definitely adopt NFC into my day to day life... once the technology is mainstream.
Apple tries to dictate what people need...
Also i believe with nfc, itll make wireless charging our devices possible, and im waiting to try that as well...
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Third party charging pads may already be available, they come with a new back cover to make it work.
What bothers me about this post is the fact that one piece of technology is being judged over an entire list of more important key advancements that clearly makes a huge difference between the two devices. I'm not trying to sway anyones thoughts and im not going to point out the obvious but to isolate one feature and try to get people to ground the future development if it is underhanded.
In a year from now if NFC takes off and is supported everywhere Apple will change their tune and add it themselves with a better encryption feature of some sort and claim that NFC is only better due to Apple supporting it. Either way it comes down to what company finds it more relevant and who puts a better twist to the advertisement, what most people don't read is the fact its not new technology at all and agencies have been using it for years.
I don't know but its all drama no matter how its brought up it all depends if you the user can use it and if it makes your life easier, just the fact that you can put your medical info on it and hospitals can scan it in the event you can't speak for yourself at the ER makes a huge difference in my book.
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Will Note 7 have IR blaster and if not.. do anybody know any 3.5mm jack IR sender/receiver so that I can control my climate air and TV's etc...
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I too need to know as this is one of my favorite features on the note 7
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i actually just got confirmation from @askdes(official tmobile unboxing guy) it doesn't have an IR blaster he confirmed it on Periscope
Yes.. it is confirmed now that there is no IR blaster...
On Unpacked event they speaked about how they listen people.. what a huge lie..
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On Unpacked event they speaked about how they listen people.. what a huge lie..
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Eventually the XDA Community will realize they're not considered people.
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Ur joking right? No IR blaster!!
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Ur joking right? No IR blaster!!
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It doesn't have an IR blaster... but it does have an IR LED that is used for the Retinal Unlocking. I wonder if someone will be able to write an app that uses that as an IR blaster. Since it is front facing, it might be a challenge to use the screen and blaster towards a device, but its better than nothing.
Why would it be removed? Makes zero sense! !!
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It doesn't have an IR blaster... but it does have an IR LED that is used for the Retinal Unlocking. I wonder if someone will be able to write an app that uses that as an IR blaster. Since it is front facing, it might be a challenge to use the screen and blaster towards a device, but its better than nothing.
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It's iris not retinal these are two different types of technology just a FYI
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Why would it be removed? Makes zero sense! !!
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Percentage of people that use it against cost. It wasn't in the 5 either. Even if it only costs them 5 bucks to add it, 5 dollars times 1 million units (they'll sell more but for easy math) is 5 mil $$. Since usage is likely around 1% of users, they'd rather keep those funds for other features, R&D, or just profit.
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IR Blaster is the biggest none argument ever.
Does your TV, DVD etc not come with a remote? If so use that...
What a dumb argument this is....
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IR Blaster is the biggest none argument ever.
Does your TV, DVD etc not come with a remote? If so use that...
What a dumb argument this is....
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that is totally your opinion....and if you're going to pay 850 bucks for a phone it should have everything and more that your had in your last note 4.....i mean its like you going to your favorite restaurant and ordering your favorite thing and poof one day the restaurant doesn't use the same recipe on top of that they charge you more......some people use there phones way more than just for being phones
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that is totally your opinion....and if you're going to pay 850 bucks for a phone it should have everything and more that your had in your last note 4.....i mean its like you going to your favorite restaurant and ordering your favorite thing and poof one day the restaurant doesn't use the same recipe on top of that they charge you more......some people use there phones way more than just for being phones
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Fair enough but I still think it's a load of bellyaching over nothing. It's not there, doesn't need to, so move on & live with it.
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Fair enough but I still think it's a load of bellyaching over nothing. It's not there, doesn't need to, so move on & live with it.
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I"m doing exactly that with the locking of the bootloader for US builds in combo with this I"m done with samsung and I'm not the only one as I've heard others as well....that is an Apple move if you don't like move on.....I'm on android for a reason
wow so much passion over a little issue. buy a htc phone which can also learn ir signals, or another phone that does have IR if you cant live without it... id pay $10 extra for the IR blaster edition but im not to going to stress over it
there are devices to plug into the audio jack and can send IR signals, most are crap but im sure one of them will work with most appliances... why dont you guys direct your efforts in that direction and then share your findings instead of making posts on every new phone that comes out.... just a suggestion.
here's a head start.
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Base...ter-Universal-for-iPhone-iOS/32705259798.html
http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale...y&initiative_id=SB_20160804030617&needQuery=n
I have a Harmony Smart Control remote. Nice thing about that is it can work with its included RF remote or any iOS/Android device.
Works way better than any IR Blaster I had built into a phone (for one, it was RF & WiFi - the base station sends all the IR commands). Pointing a phone at the TV to control volume is so outdated.
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It's been gone since the Note 5 so it's not to much of a surprise. HTC also took it out of the One this year. Looks like LG is the only sticking with it for now.
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that is totally your opinion....and if you're going to pay 850 bucks for a phone it should have everything and more that your had in your last note 4.....i mean its like you going to your favorite restaurant and ordering your favorite thing and poof one day the restaurant doesn't use the same recipe on top of that they charge you more......some people use there phones way more than just for being phones
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so if i pay $45,000 for a car it should have everything like a launch button that can take me straight to the moon
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so if i pay $45,000 for a car it should have everything like a launch button that can take me straight to the moon
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....you ask a smart ass question i give you a smart ass answer why the **** not?
It's amusing when people cling to the past. The past two product cycles there were huge arguments over the absence of FM radio. Granted there were valid points (EG: emergencies where cell lines are down, free music without data use) but at the end of the day FM radio on cell phones is dying.
IR is going the way of the Dodo too being replaced at a minimum by RF but more prevalently by BT and Wi-Fi. Seriously, as wireless tech has advanced what value does a line-of-site protocol still hold? The remote app I use on my phone to control my Galaxy View is BT. My TiVo Bolt's remote is RF and the app on my phone and tablets controls it by Wi-Fi. My thermostat is controlled by Wi-Fi. Amazon's Echo and other IoT devices use Wi-Fi. Sorry IR fans, your technology is dying. If you must have it then Samsung's phones aren't for you. Complaining about it isn't going to bring it back.
The point many are missing... Replaceable battery gone.. "don't cling to the past" (lol dumbest argument EVER... its like 2nd child is born without a nose.. and you expect 3rd..."nose...a thing of the past.. dont cling to the past).. so lol again. Moving on... Sd card gone... "don't cling to the past"...thank god people do still have a brain (and we got SD back)... now IR gone... again" don't cling to the past"... lol... do you notice a pattern here?
In this case I'll await the day phone function is gone and I'll be right there with.. "don't cling to the past"... lol
The point why the freck are we paying more and more money while functions are less and less.
You know what the bottom line is... for 5$ per unit they saved... they lost 900$ from me... and from others can they lose clients enough to make them lose overall... yes... if not this year... in the near future with next 5 features dropped.
Over and out
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