Is it me or does it seem like Verizon is sabotaging this phone in favor of... - Samsung Galaxy Nexus

Is it me or does it seem like Verizon is kind of sabotaging the Gnex in favor of the Rezound and RAZR? When I went into Best Buy today, they did NOT have the phone on display, and the only accesory they had was the ZAGG invisible shield. When I asked a salesperson did they sell out of them, they said they haven't heard much about the phone.
When I went into a Verizon store, there were all kinds of RAZR and REZOUND posters and accessories but NONE for the Gnex! It was sitting on the display with the Rezound and RAZR and that was it! I wanted to get a case and there were none.
Furthermore, I have not seen a single TV commercial for this phone while I ALWAYS see Rezound and RAZR commercials. Its almost as if Verizon does not want this phone to outsell the other two.
What are your thoughts on this?

I'm assuming that the "Droid" name carries a lot more weight with your average consumer and a much bigger paycheck from Motorola's marketing team.

I thought the same thing when I went into the Verizon location near my house to pick mine up. There were no advertising posters for the Gnex up at all. I also haven't seen any advertising for it anywhere else either. Come to think of it I haven't ever seen any TV adds for any nexus device they've always had bad marketing. It definitely seems that they don't want it to sell as well as the rezound or the razr.
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that's OK. I don't want a bunch on crummy nubs using my phone. Android is open source and the people who know what they are doing know what phone to buy.
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You haven't seen the TV commercials? There have actually been a lot. They've been spending big money, putting GN commercials in NFL games too.
But are you surprised they're not pushing it as hard as the RAZR in store? The RAZR is an easy sell to anyone who's had a droid device before. Familiar interface etc. whereas the GN is new and different.
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The nexus isn't a mass market device. That is part of the reason you don't see any major advertising for it.
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Also, in Canada we do have gnex commercials from bell. But virgin mobile which is a bell owned provider still has iPhone 4s posters all over their stores
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Goat_For_Sale said:
that's OK. I don't want a bunch on crummy nubs using my phone. Android is open source and the people who know what they are doing know what phone to buy.
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You're the reason why people are intimidated by Android devices and just buy iphone.
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Must be by location. My Verizon store had a full display model out next to all the other 4g phones and I've also seen commercials for the phone. Website also had it on their front page with the scrolling deals.
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I've seen TV commercials both in Chicago and in Dayton, Ohio.. I saw four yesterday actually. The Verizon stores in Chicago don't have nexus cases because they're all sold out..

martonikaj said:
You haven't seen the TV commercials? There have actually been a lot. They've been spending big money, putting GN commercials in NFL games too.
But are you surprised they're not pushing it as hard as the RAZR in store? The RAZR is an easy sell to anyone who's had a droid device before. Familiar interface etc. whereas the GN is new and different.
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Yea guys, there are definitely TV ads... I just saw one a few hours ago on the Panthers-Saints game... They are very iPhone-esque as well...

Goat_For_Sale said:
that's OK. I don't want a bunch on crummy nubs using my phone. Android is open source and the people who know what they are doing know what phone to buy.
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The more "noobs" that use your phone, the more market share it gains which leads to popularity, demand, support etc. You want your phone to get a dock? There needs to be demand for it.
martonikaj said:
You haven't seen the TV commercials? There have actually been a lot. They've been spending big money, putting GN commercials in NFL games too.
But are you surprised they're not pushing it as hard as the RAZR in store? The RAZR is an easy sell to anyone who's had a droid device before. Familiar interface etc. whereas the GN is new and different.
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I saw a face unlock commercial with a kid sitting on the stairs, but the only other Google commercials I have seen lately were for Google+. There was a Beatboxing and a Bohemian Rhapsody commercial that had the Nexus in it, but I don't remember if it even mentioned the Nexus or focused more on Google+ Hangouts. I would like to have seen a lot more SGN/ICS commercials though for this phone launch just for the sake of accessories support (which only comes with device popularity i.e. the Droid line). I really want a horizontal dock for my nightstand. I saw it in a YouTube review from some .co.uk source, but I would really like to find it at the Verizon store so I can get my 30% discount.

The commercials I've seen for the GN are usually thrown in the middle of a generic Verizon lineup commercial with only 5 seconds of face time and no spec rundown. The one commercial I did see that places the GN in the center spot, Verizon portrayed the phone primarily as a google+ phone. No other attribute was given. Just gave the "circles" rundown in the social media app. If I didn't know anything about this phone and saw the commercial, I would of thought the GN to be a teenie-bopper phone. Primaily targeted to the early teen crowd.

I did notice a bunch of Nexus commercials during the Panthers game today.
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Oh okay, must be region specific then. Ive seen the circles commercial where they were using face unlock but that was only once. But I always see that silly commercial for the rezound with the craptastic and overrated Beats by Dre.

I wish my name was Matt Flynn's Beard.
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Verizon store by me is definitely not pushing this phone. I went in the day it came out and it was in the back with no special display. IPhone is up front with huge display with razr setup right by it with its own display.
I also walked in with my GSM nexus version a week prior to them releasing it and most of the workers did not know anything about it. Stupid move on Google and Samsung to make it exclusive on Verizon as they suck. I am just glad that the GSM version was pentaband.
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Goat_For_Sale said:
that's OK. I don't want a bunch on crummy nubs using my phone. Android is open source and the people who know what they are doing know what phone to buy.
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Good call! You know what you're doing if you have a Galaxy Nexus
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Verizon is BFF's with Motorola and their "Droid" lineup. So they are obviously going to push that ahead of everything else. As for the Rezound, beats a side, it is a great phone. Definitely a contendor for the Nexus(and the only contendor). Don't take it personal, that's just how Verizon does things(backwards, f'ed up).

i can see where the op is coming from but imo they want the iphone to sell over the others cuz the verizon stores ive been in look as if apple owns them (apple posters everywhere and ipad2 and iphone accessory stands on their own)

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Godbye Rhodium

Loved you very much. Moved onto a Backflip. Couldn't take the lack of support for the speaker on Android. For those of you looking for an Android phone I recommend the Backflip... It's slicker, and even better: it's free with a new plan on AT&T
Even still good luck with this Android port.
If anyone wants to buy a used T-Mobile Touch Pro 2 I'm selling it on eBay and it's only at 125$ bidding so far...
The backflip is literally the worst Android phone made. Just trying searching google or side loading apps on it. You will be unpleasantly surprised.
Yeah, I'm moving to a iPhone next week and will also be putting my TP2 on eBay. Good luck on ur eBay auction.
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LOL
There is a reason that with a new contract the backflip is free and the TP2 is still $250....
Motorola makes crap.
wow
this thread is pointless
It's ok, I just got a TP2 so there will always be new users!
no one cares... what is this? craigslist? go advertise somewhere else.
wow just wow
andershizzle said:
Loved you very much. Moved onto a Backflip. Couldn't take the lack of support for the speaker on Android. For those of you looking for an Android phone I recommend the Backflip... It's slicker, and even better: it's free with a new plan on AT&T
Even still good luck with this Android port.
If anyone wants to buy a used T-Mobile Touch Pro 2 I'm selling it on eBay and it's only at 125$ bidding so far...
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ok honestly you just made the WORST decision in history! why the heck would you drop the TP2 for the crappiest phone on the planet? slicker and better is more like uglier and horrible, worst perfomance, and of course Android Market is locked down, you cant load any third party apps! and why you didnt get the Aria? its 10000x more better but whatever and moving to a backflip just because you couldnt get speaker support on the Android port is a real unacceptable excuse, its a PORT! TouchPro2 was made for Windows Mobile, dont expect the devs to make everything to work in one shot, it seems like you insulted the port project by moving to an actual android because lack of sound, dont worry youll regret the whole decision!
ugh my venting session is done -.- total pointless thread, sorry but i just had to rant, because thats the worst decision ive seen from a consumer
xero_racer, roast much lol, I agree with you and all, cause Im like big time trying my best to get the sound working, and I am a noob when it comes to all of this, but im still tryin cause I speak tiny amounts of C++.and I can usually figure stuff out, and this kinda upset me cause that just makes me feel like i'm wasting my time towards something that people wont appreciate...
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Yeah. I haven't heard anything good about the Motorola Droid or the Droid X. /s
Just because one phone cost more than another doesn't mean squat.
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I haven't heard anything good about the Motorola Droid or the Droid X. /s
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Odd. The droid is one of the best performing phones on the market, period. The build quality is unusually high for Motorola. I'm sure the Droid X follows suit, the specs are nothing to laugh at.
Motorola Android phones that have extremely LOW build quality and are also low spec'ed:
Cliq
Cliq XT
Backflip
always liked the nexus one for a native android phone, just not a phone i feel like buying though.
Nice. Motorola's cell phones almost shut their entire mobile division down. The droid was their saving grace, but the backflip and the cliq have been plagued with problems, including a possible lack of upgradability to eclair without rooting. Lack of sound is to be expected in a build that's still in development, I hope you didn't get this pone with the sole intent of installing android.
Sorry about your lack of taste, but you should expect to be flamed when opening a thread bashing an excellent piece of hardware.
ive been thinking about switching to an android phone. but not a backflip. its horrible. its slow, ugly, outdated, have you tried using that thing they call a keyboard? my brother has an aria and i love it, but id prefer something like a touch pro 2 with android. i might settle in the future for something like a nexus one with an htc sense rom. a sense rom is whats tempting.
Have u ever used a backflip or cliq?
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The backflip is literally the worst Android phone made. Just trying searching google or side loading apps on it. You will be unpleasantly surprised.
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Totally second that lol
what about the Samsung Epic 4G. It has almost the same form factor as the tp2 but a larger screen.
I cant wait to get that in gsm.
The Backflip is not that bad depending on what type of user you are. If you active in this forum then most likely it is not the phone for you. My wife got one and she loves it. She is not a power user though. She likes to make phone calls, text messaging, the occasional photo upload, very light web surfing and facebook. She has no interest in side loading apps or any of that other stuff. For her the backflip suites all of her need.
For anyone else here that would like to switch over to a native Android phone I suggest you take a look at the Samsung Captivate. It is a highly anticipated phone and is supposed to be just as powerful as the Droid X. It releases this coming sunday the 18th of July. For those of you who can't live without a keyboard then you maybe out of luck cause the Backflip is the only Android phone on AT&T witih a keyboard.
I myself am a power user who needs the latest and greatest in both hardware and software. I though have grown very tired of Windows Mobile and the daily reboots just to keep it running well enough to use. I am also out of patients waiting for a full working port of Android. The developers here do an awsome job and I am not puttingi them down. I just want to switch to Android and I want to do it yesterday. I to have put my Tilt 2 up on Ebay and will be purchasing the Captivate this coming Sunday.
Samsung Epic 4G/Captivate/Vibrant/Fascinate (all versions of the Samsung Galaxy S) looks like the go-to phone if you're leaving XDAndroid. I'll probably be getting the Vibrant once it's released on T-mo.
Nothing against the Rhodium, but mine's beat up (probably only good for parts) and I don't normally keep a phone as long as I've kept this one. If anyone needs a t-mobile Touch Pro 2 for parts or whatever, PM me after the 15th.
Woah
Am i missing something or did any one realize he spelled goodbye wrong?

Rant Here about Verizon not giving a date and pushing this back every week

now im not on verizon and the only reason im coming over is for this phone. (BE WARNED - RANT COMING)
I've been on sprint for about 10 years now, the past 3 years i have been on an employee plan paying 30$/month for unlimited everything. The sad thing is, i feel bad for the people paying full price on sprint because im located in Rochester NY and sprint service should be great here but i rarely get service indoor's recently. 4G is a joke and Rochester was one of the first places to get it turned on. So im happy to move to a better network and brought myself to pay the extra $ for the service.... so enough about how sprints network is going down hill and on to how Verizon F***ED this launch up royally.
Maybe i hate Verizon for not mentioning a word about this phone. Maybe its because the Galaxy Nexus has been out for almost a month overseas. Maybe its because i feel like not only have i been waiting for this phone but i've also been waiting for Google to release an exciting new OS. Maybe it's the fact that i KNOW this phone can compete in the market as one of the best phones and not to mention its the flagship phone from Google that can kick start features like NFC and such. but then i think to myself... What did i just see when i turned on the TV or when i went to that website. ADs for the RAZR... THE RAZR.... ARE U KIDDING ME?
okay okay, i understand, back in 2003 it was the coolest phone on the block. TIMES HAVE CHANGED, Verizon knewwwwww they were getting the Nexus, and they hate they can't call it Droid. the name droid (personal opinion) is UGLY. Im not saying Galaxy Nexus is any better but i dont want to feel like i have a robot in my pocket. The Razr just came at the wrong time and VZ spent to much money with s$itty advertising like they always do.
I was really really hoping to see some type of great marketing strategy by verizon starting this week. Something along the lines of this:
Mon Night Football. 5 to 10 second commercial, completely white background and just out the nexus right in the middle of the high def screen. no music. mahyeb a piano key or smething, with just a shot of this beauty... then at the very end, flash Verizon so people know, that phone is coming to VZ, wow!!?? (and yes i would love to see a "with Google" slapped in there somewhere but we all know Verizon would have a heart attack promoting anyone but themselves)
and keep showing the commercial every day with a count down until the release date (which i was hoping the 9th) so it would have been even sweeter to see that commercial knowing i can freakin get that this week!?!
people know the verizon brand, they like the verizon brand becuase its associated with a good network. FOCUS ON YOUR PRODUCT, THE BEST ONE U HAVE. make people say, woahhhhhh what was that???? and im not talking about the people like us who wait and wait and wait knowing we will hold out for this, im talking about your average consumer, the one who see's a product and says, damn thats good looking, i WANT that. i WANT THAT NEOWWWZ!
(hell i even made a s$hitty youtube video to get my point across)
but no. No commercials, no internet Ad's, only one spot on thier website to put your email in a box (which NO ONE likes giving out) for more information....
Verizon, you messed up. You had a chance to make a boat load even more of cash and you missed out. im not even your customer yet and i dread the fact ill be stuck with you for two years.
and now we have this, no Google wallet. im highly confident once developers get their hands on this phone they will find a way to make it work, but instead Verizon points the finger and says its not them. WHY IN THE HELL WOULD GOOGLE NOT WANT TO HELP ITS OWN NEW SERVICE?!? It just doesnt make sense.........
alright, i just blacked out with anger/frustration while typing this so i hope it makes sense and i hope other people see what im seeing...
oh, and one last note.. This ones for you Google. i hope you paid attention to this whole launch. i hope you learned your leson about dancing with the RED DEVIL. They will take your masterpiece and piss all over it.
In my opinion the main problem with this launch is that Google and Samsung allowed Verizon to take control of it. I hate to compare to Apple, but they take full control of their product launches and do not allow the carriers to tamper in any way. Samsung and Google should have grown some balls and had the phone launched their way. If Verizon did not want to play ball then they just release the unlocked version here as they did in the past.
Cool story bro. Lol @ video. Lame but funny.
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No rant here
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special treatment for business account holders! My rep always takes care of me with devices before they come out. My company has over 650 lines with them... I give them a lot of money each month this is the least they can do!
had a couple problems with it once i got it but i worked everything out. Yup already rooted and bootloader unlocked! new facebook app is bad ass! had the Rezound do miss the sync contacts
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special treatment for business account holders! My rep always takes care of me with devices before they come out. My company has over 650 lines with them... I give them a lot of money each month this is the least they can do!
had a couple problems with it once i got it but i worked everything out. Yup already rooted and bootloader unlocked! new facebook app is bad ass! had the Rezound do miss the sync contacts
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Maybe I should talk to my account Rep.
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No ETA on this yet how sad just got off the phone with Costco district manager he just received an email about the push back could be awhile
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jfgirard0423 said:
special treatment for business account holders! My rep always takes care of me with devices before they come out. My company has over 650 lines with them... I give them a lot of money each month this is the least they can do!
had a couple problems with it once i got it but i worked everything out. Yup already rooted and bootloader unlocked! new facebook app is bad ass! had the Rezound do miss the sync contacts
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Hmm, that's weird. My company spends just shy of $100k a year on Verizon devices (somewhere around ~800 lines currently)...and my rep is just as unable to get one to sell as anyone else.
And he is the rep for 5 other companies around our size.
I think there's a much better chance you're a Verizon employee or were able to play with one in the immediate vicinity.
Your bigger rant should be how a company the size of VZW can hose their entire LTE network with each introduction of a new device.
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Your bigger rant should be how a company the size of VZW can hose their entire LTE network with each introduction of a new device.
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Yeah, and you can bet that the resolution will be quiet and nothing else ever said of this outage.
"Isolated" will be the spin. I was going to head over to Verizon and eBay the GSM GNEX I have, but I just can't fork over $85 for a tiered plan when I have unlimited on ATT for $40 after taxes (2nd line on plan).
Oh well.
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Hmm, that's weird. My company spends just shy of $100k a year on Verizon devices (somewhere around ~800 lines currently)...and my rep is just as unable to get one to sell as anyone else.
And he is the rep for 5 other companies around our size.
I think there's a much better chance you're a Verizon employee or were able to play with one in the immediate vicinity.
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sitting at home watching tv more than happy to post another pic! but promise you business rep got it for me! it will be released next week. I know because i did 10 upgrades for a couple of co-workers. thats when he said they will get them. but doesnt matter. dam phone has NO 4g LTE have this bad boy on wifi. But i own a company in the healthcare industry! not Verizon. give you another hint its in TEXAS!
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sitting at home watching tv more than happy to post another pic! but promise you business rep got it for me! it will be released next week. I know because i did 10 upgrades for a couple of co-workers. thats when he said they will get them. but doesnt matter. dam phone has NO 4g LTE have this bad boy on wifi. But i own a company in the healthcare industry! not Verizon. give you another hint its in TEXAS!
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Man, you are one posting maniac about your Verizon GNEX.
Congrats I suppose.
Had my GSM version for 3 weeks. Welcome to the club and keep letting everyone know how your business rep put you on a pedestal, lol.
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Man, you are one posting maniac about your Verizon GNEX.
Congrats I suppose.
Had my GSM version for 3 weeks. Welcome to the club and keep letting everyone know how your business rep put you on a pedestal, lol.
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Sorry. Just excited about the phone. Don't mean to be out of line.
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Sorry. Just excited about the phone. Don't mean to be out of line.
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Haha, I don't blame you. Didn't mean to come off as a jerk if I did.
Hell, I'd be doing the same. Enjoy it!
lol the op is a joke. He probably wasted 15-20minutes of his life to complain to a whole bunch of people he doesn't eve know ... ahhaha
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sitting at home watching tv more than happy to post another pic! but promise you business rep got it for me! it will be released next week. I know because i did 10 upgrades for a couple of co-workers. thats when he said they will get them. but doesnt matter. dam phone has NO 4g LTE have this bad boy on wifi. But i own a company in the healthcare industry! not Verizon. give you another hint its in TEXAS!
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Not saying I necessarily don't believe you, just saying the "don't sell yet" thing is pretty hard...they probably aren't even allowing the devices to activate on the network yet.
Beyond that, not a single person knows the date it's releasing now. The update said "indefinite", meaning nobody knows for sure. It's just suspected for next week, at the moment.
I won't promise anything but I will call rep tomorrow for some info
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Thanks for the reply king shady, u prob just wasted 5 mins reading even tho u don't care lol. All in good fun tho, just pissed at vz, ill get one sooner or later
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I disagree.
Seriously. Think about it from Verizon's perspective. Why would they put money and advertising behind the Nexus phone when they have the Rezound and Razr that just came out and are of similar specs? They control the user experience on those devices and can put their subscription apps preloaded on them. Not true with the Galaxy Nexus. Of course they're going to market the hell out of the devices that make them more money.
That said, I agree that Samsung/Google should have taken more charge with this launch. Nexus devices are about no compromise, pure Android experiences, and no carrier/OEM tampering. What I've seen of the Verizon version has contradicted this in a few ways before the phone is even out. Makes me very happy I got the GSM version. But at least the LTE one is unlocked and there will be plenty of ROMs and support for it.

Does anyone recognize your phone?

So i been a android user and for almost two years, my first phone was the Samsung moment on Sprint, rooted the phone still suck! Got me an evo 4g and was the best phone I ever had (came from bb and iPhone), alot people got to know the evo, but some people still asked me "is the a Droid?" verizon marketing did a lot for Android, move forward a few years anyone knows and iPhone or android, but no phone is famous at all, or at least that's what I thought, now I had my gs3 since launch day, and just in this past weeks, 5 people been able to recognize it, from walmart store, to grocery store and gas station (specially when you pay with nfc), so it looks like the galaxy s III brand is recognized and Samsung did a good job by putting the same phone on all carriers, makes me wonder has anyone else recognized your phone? And I'm not talking about tech people, just regular consumers?
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People have no clue...I am surrounded by Iphone fan boys.
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People have no clue...I am surrounded by Iphone fan boys.
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Lmao funny thing I got a few friends that have iPhones and they want to trade it for my gs3,I had the 4s like it but I can't have it as my Daily driver I use for work tho, and I hate the small screen, the OS feels slow somehow, it does have more animations but it feels slow
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I have nothing against Iphones, I had one and loved it. I just prefer androids now. The fan boys that I work with have just blind loyalty. 5-6 years ago Iphones were better...now, androids have made incredible improvements. They refuse to even listen, very close minded.
I'm with you...hate that small screen.
Why do most people just call it "droid" or "android"? It sounds really silly if you ask me and it's all because of verizon's marketing.
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I have nothing against Iphones, I had one and loved it. I just prefer androids now. The fan boys that I work with have just blind loyalty. 5-6 years ago Iphones were better...now, androids have made incredible improvements. They refuse to even listen, very close minded.
I'm with you...hate that small screen.
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90% of apple owners don't wanna hear about android. People buy iphones just because its an iPhone. Its like shoes, people buy nikes because they are nikes if you get a Nike and put the sketchers logo on it, no ones going to want it. Truth is gs3 kicks the iPhones asssss. I think the gs2 kicked the iPhones ass.
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For years I was a huge Nokia N series fan and bought euro unlocked phones with symbian, so I have always gotten the ”what kind of phone is that?" question... Around the time the original tmobile mytouch I switch to android and haven't looked back since. Bought a gs3 about 2 weeks ago and for the first time it's not "what phone is that" but "how do like that phone... I want one real bad". Personally I love tmo and love my gs3. Now iphone I have never liked but I get why it's huge... Great for what most people do with their phone but iphone may have been out played by the gs3 and could lose a healthy share of their market. Just my 2¢ though...
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Some lady asked me if my phones was like the iphone to which I just looked at her dumbfounded and walked away.
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depends on where I am. Tech savvy people know what is. Drunk girls think it looks cool. Good enuf
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I finally ran into someone who had the exact same phone as me yesterday. We had a bit of fun with that. She said her battery life was pretty good. I disagreed, but then again I also have mine overclocked to 1.9Ghz.. So I'm happy

What if Apple wins?

I got a new red s3 a few days ago and other than not being able to check for ot updates, I really like it. However, I have one big concern that has me wondering if maybe I should swap it out for a One X ($79.88 at wal mart). If Apple ends up winning the court case against Samsung, what will happen as far as future updates/upgrades/support? If Apple wins, apparently th s3 will be banned from future sales. And since they have already taken the local search function away, what other features are we likely to lose just to appease Apple?
Samsung and Apple will battle in court for the foreseeable future. The sgiii isn't going to get barred from being sold, at least not for any significant amount of time.
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I got mine
Apple already put a stop to sales of one of Samsung's tablets. The s3 is next on their list. But I already have one so that part doesn't concern me. What does concern me is support for the s3 if Samsung is banned from selling it. It is hard to imagine them supporting a product that they can't sell. Plus, if the software is also banned (local search), will they even be able to support it if they want to?
Umm they really don't have anything to go after the SGS3 for. It is not rectangular, it does not have uniform corners, and TouchWiz does not look like iOS, so what could the possible ban it for?
I know
I feel the same way. But you know how it is. I couldn't believe that Samsung took away the local search but they did. Apparently, pretty much everything from the icons to the touch screen is copied from Apple. But the s3 with its physical home button is the first Android powered phone to outsell the iPhone. Therefore it must go. Like I said, Apple got the Nexus tablet banned because it was too much like the iPad. I just don't want to be stuck with a phone that is constantly being stripped down bit by bit or completely removed from the market and nit supported at all. It's funny, though. The Apple TV sure looks like a Samsung to me. I wonder if Samsung will sue Apple?
Becouse they are afraid of the sgs3...
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lordjan1986 said:
Becouse they are afraid of the sgs3...
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With good reason.
Sweet we will be only ones with s3. lol. It won't happen.
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catchesbass said:
I got a new red s3 a few days ago and other than not being able to check for ot updates, I really like it. However, I have one big concern that has me wondering if maybe I should swap it out for a One X ($79.88 at wal mart). If Apple ends up winning the court case against Samsung, what will happen as far as future updates/upgrades/support? If Apple wins, apparently th s3 will be banned from future sales. And since they have already taken the local search function away, what other features are we likely to lose just to appease Apple?
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You are on xda, you shouldnt worry about that. Devs here will do everything to add features back. atleast the common sense ones.
Even if something as far-fetched as banning the S3 does occur, I doubt that they would simply just stop supporting a device that sold over 10 million units.
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I mean really, Apple does not have nothing to stop the SGS3. The phone was designed to avoid being stopped by Apple. and even then, if they try to stop it via software, they cant, because all it takes is a software patch. hence the Galaxy Nexus.
When it comes down to it, Apple is scared. Android is light years better and they know it. They know that Google made an OS to rival theirs and did it better. So, if you can't beat the competition, then sue (sp.) their butt off! Apple will ALWAYS be a fanboy market...meaning all the die-hard robots that will do/buy whatever Apple tells them too. Meanwhile, Google will keep innovating and making their mobile OS truely the best on the market today.
ahh the beauty of living in canada us patents dont apply here! yippee! never have to worry about any of these stupid lawsuits. :good:
though even if they win, they cant really touch the sgs iii, apple is mainly targeting older samsung phones which imo did blatantly copy apple (talking about like the galaxy s originaly) , they have changed a lot since those days. id be surprised if they had any dirt on the siii.
They are scared of Samsung itself. They know that Samsung copied the iPhone, and lets be honest here, they copied the dam iPhone, but they produced a product a million times better than the iPhone.
Samsung has some great technology, which is why its one of Apple's "Key Partners". I have owned three Samsung devices in the last year and they all were really good. Samsung has what it takes, but it is being limited by Apple. Why do you think the SGS3 is so ugly looking? To avoid Apple and its lawsuits.
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They are scared of Samsung itself. They know that Samsung copied the iPhone, and lets be honest here, they copied the dam iPhone, but they produced a product a million times better than the iPhone.
Samsung has some great technology, which is why its one of Apple's "Key Partners". I have owned three Samsung devices in the last year and they all were really good. Samsung has what it takes, but it is being limited by Apple. Why do you think the SGS3 is so ugly looking? To avoid Apple and its lawsuits.
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Looks better than the HTC X and the iPhone itself.
Apple deserves to win this case. Look at the points and cases they are bringing up against the Galaxy S 1. The UI was completely ripped off of them. In addition, Samsung's lawyers are a bunch of jackasses in court (read the Verge if you dont know what Im talking about). Now... some of the new patents Apple is getting are utter bull****. I was pissed when they tried to ban the GNex because of the search patent .
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megagodx said:
Looks better than the HTC X and the iPhone itself.
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I lol'd. The Galaxy S3 pales in design when comparing it to those two
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Guys you cant ban something that already has tens of millions in the wild. Apple is definitely worried, because Steve only left them so much on his notes he kept and the iphone train is going to run out of steam after the next 2 iphones you mark my words, that is all he left them.
Buy another phone if you want, nothing in life is certain, but I would not worry one minute and use the phone you want now. Its already the best thing out there as is, once JB rolls out its a done deal. They have a removable battery and SD slot, doesnt sound like an iphone clone to me...And who cares if they ban the S1, its a totally different phone and old as hell to boot, it aint gonna happen. They must stop it before its released or it just doesnt work.
catchesbass said:
Apple already put a stop to sales of one of Samsung's tablets. The s3 is next on their list. But I already have one so that part doesn't concern me. What does concern me is support for the s3 if Samsung is banned from selling it. It is hard to imagine them supporting a product that they can't sell. Plus, if the software is also banned (local search), will they even be able to support it if they want to?
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Why do you need support from Samsung? Just root and install custom roms, my old HTC Hero on Telus took over a year to get an update from 1.6 to eclair, but by then I was already running a custom rom.
I didn't mean to start an apple vs Samsung vs one x discussion. Honestly, I am amazed at how far mobile phones have come since I got my first Motorola Star Tac when I was in the military. I am just concerned about the future of my s3 in the event that apple wins in court. That said, I can see where apple is coming from. However, without competition from other manufacturers, there will be very few more advancements in the industry. Especially if every time someone produces a product that may or may not be better than apple, apple sues that company into submission. Imagine how it would be if car companies did the same thing. Or even something as simple as clothes detergent. My concern is not whether or not Samsung "will" support the s3 but whether not they will be able to due to restrictions placed on them by the courts that may prevent them from having the ability to support and improve on the s3
King Shady said:
I lol'd. The Galaxy S3 pales in design when comparing it to those two
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i lol'd at your lol. ur crazy dude

Is the Galaxy Nexus still good?

Here's the thing: I'm in high school, and love developing. I love the android platform because it's so much more open than, say iOS. I currently have an iPhone 4S, and my mother is going to get a new phone tomorrow. This will be her first smartphone. I know iOS is more user-friendly and Siri would be a great help to her, since she drives a lot but also likes to text/talk to her friends. So what I'm wondering, is should I give my mom my iPhone, and get a Galaxy Nexus? Are they still top of the line devices? I've been longing for android ever since my samsung continuum broke and I was talked into getting this piece of garbage. I know that my mom's interested in smartphones, and I was thinking that my iPhone would probably be the best thing for her instead of an android. Or, should I let her get an android and then keep my iPhone? Thanks for taking the time to read this, I appreciate it.
well has she tried to use your iphone yet? let her try it. and the nexus still seems to be a live and licking device i just bought mine last night and i love it.
if your momo doesnt like the iphone take her in to the store and look at some of the lower end android phones. im not sure what cell provider you have though or i could recommend some to you.
Is the nexus top of the line? Not anymore. Is it a great phone? Most definitely. And it's still a very relevant device. Plenty of development, and will continue for quite some time.
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I'm guessing mom's would like the iphone. Give it to her! Then get the phone that Google built. Oh and developed ICS and JB on FTW!
whoot said:
I currently have an iPhone 4S, and my mother is going to get a new phone tomorrow. This will be her first smartphone. I know iOS is more user-friendly and Siri would be a great help to her, since she drives a lot but also likes to text/talk to her friends. So what I'm wondering, is should I give my mom my iPhone, and get a Galaxy Nexus?...I've been longing for android ever since my samsung continuum broke and I was talked into getting this piece of garbage. I know that my mom's interested in smartphones, and I was thinking that my iPhone would probably be the best thing for her instead of an android. Or, should I let her get an android and then keep my iPhone? Thanks for taking the time to read this, I appreciate it.
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Well, you'd be doing her a disservice but it depends on a lot of things, not the least of which is budget.
My thoughts: if you can get her a "powerful" android (as in, Galaxy Nexus or better, using your judgment and keeping in mind that some newer devices don't quite have the software edge) then do that. But, if it means you have to keep your iPhone.. well, I can't make that decision for you, it depends how much you like her I guess :laugh:
whoot said:
Are they still top of the line devices?
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GN is probably the best bang for the buck at this particular moment, especially if you custom ROM the hell out of it. Plus, it's relatively cheap so good if you're on a budget. (Make sure you take full advantage of its unlocked pentaband and go prepaid, preferably for the $30/month plan, which results in massive savings over time.) That said, it's about a year old and will be succeeded by the next Nexus within a few months.
Well is your mom tech-savy? No? Give her the iPhone. Yes? Buy her the next iPhone, it is just around the block.
Is Gnex top-of-the-line smartphone RIGHT NOW? NOPE. If you want top-of-the-line hardware, GS3 or HTC One X.
Is Gnex still an amazing phone? YUP! Despite the lower specs, Gnex runs smooth and fast.
Should you get it over GS3? I dunno. If you don't mind lower hardware or maybe you're on a budget, Gnex. If you definitely need top-of-the-line hardware, GS3.
My dad got an iphone4 and likes it my mom has had, palm Pre(my old) 3vo, and droid RAZR, and a touchpad cm9.
Now my dad its his first smartphone so iPhone is good for him. Mom on the other hand doesn't like iPhone.
On side note the nexus s(2010) is getting or got android JB. so I would imagine the gnex will get android K&L
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I got my mom an iPhone for her birthday. She isn't to into tech but she somewhat knows what she's doing. She loves it mostly for its simplicity. And lucky Me I got my gnex.

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