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Can someone show a GS2/Nexus screen comparison?

I currently own a GS2 on AT&T (iPhone 4 on Verizon) and love it, I may buy a Nexus down the road when they are more readily available and not....800 effin dollars.
Anyway, I've seen a couple comparisons of a Super AMOLED Plus vs Super AMOLED HD screens, but they are done so close it almost seems silly to use as a comparison. I'm sure the higher resolution would help if I had my nose pressed to the screen, I just wanted to get an idea of what both screens look like close up, but not THAT close. Despite the lower resolution, the GS2 looks pretty sharp to my eye, not quite as clean as the iPhone 4, but still sharp.
If you have both phones (Nexus+GS2), can you sit them side by side and just take a few shots of the same text, icons, images. Close enough to see detail, but not right up to the screen since that's not how anyone looks at a phone.
Thanks

Point me to an image and I will do it.

Sweet thanks. I didn't have an image in mind really. Just maybe take a pic of this forums main page on both, a Gmail home screen icon with text...you know something with a smaller image like an icon and some text, or maybe a browser screen window with similar text at the same default zoom of each.
Is that making sense?
I'm not really concerned with color accuracy, more so with text and icon sharpness.

lol where are you getting the $800 price tag?? The phone is expected to launch at either $530, like the other Nexus phones, or $600.

hotleadsingerguy said:
lol where are you getting the $800 price tag?? The phone is expected to launch at either $530, like the other Nexus phones, or $600.
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I know, I said I would get when down the road when they are the price you mentioned. If I import one now, it would cost close to 800 I believe...

ferris2375 said:
I currently own a GS2 on AT&T (iPhone 4 on Verizon) and love it, I may buy a Nexus down the road when they are more readily available and not....800 effin dollars.
Anyway, I've seen a couple comparisons of a Super AMOLED Plus vs Super AMOLED HD screens, but they are done so close it almost seems silly to use as a comparison. I'm sure the higher resolution would help if I had my nose pressed to the screen, I just wanted to get an idea of what both screens look like close up, but not THAT close. Despite the lower resolution, the GS2 looks pretty sharp to my eye, not quite as clean as the iPhone 4, but still sharp.
If you have both phones (Nexus+GS2), can you sit them side by side and just take a few shots of the same text, icons, images. Close enough to see detail, but not right up to the screen since that's not how anyone looks at a phone.
Thanks
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Here you go, sorry for the delay. And please ignore the crappy camera did the best I could.
Galaxy Nexus on the left, SGS2 on the right.
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Galaxy Nexus Launcher and icons
SGS2 Launcher and Icons
Settings Screen

Those photos make the S11 look better than the nexus!
I think you need to get closer to the screen to do it justice.
you can see the green tint of super amoled on the nexus.
The truth is the screen is far superior on the nexus

Spinstorm said:
Those photos make the S11 look better than the nexus!
I think you need to get closer to the screen to do it justice.
you can see the green tint of super amoled on the nexus.
The truth is the screen is far superior on the nexus
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Are we looking at the same pictures!? I think the Nexus looks a lot better.

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Thanks.
jms.flynn said:
Here you go, sorry for the delay. And please ignore the crappy camera did the best I could.
Galaxy Nexus on the left, SGS2 on the right.
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Galaxy Nexus Launcher and icons
SGS2 Launcher and Icons
Settings Screen
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Excellent, thanks for posting those. The difference is about what I thought it would be, sharper than the GS2, still not sure it's as "clean" as the iPhone 4, but I do notice a step up in clarity. Not sure it's night and day, I imagine if the GS2 wasn't a plus the difference would be even more pronounced. Still a nice display, now I just need to find one of these close to retail price eventually. The browser at default zoom is noticeable, probably due to the larger screen size combined with a higher resolution.
Still a big fan of the GS2, I really can't pick a favorite between the two, each have strengths, ICS being a huge one for the Nexus. Samsung really has 2 amazing phones out right now. Now to find a Nexus that doesn't come close to being what I pay on my mortgage. :-/

I was sitting with a friend today who as a SII, he set his screen to max brightness and his wallpaper to microbes. I set my phone to the same settings, and it was obvious that the resolution helps as I saw more detail (smaller microbes and more of them) but the colours are better on the SII - more vibrant. most people know this anyway. It is only obvious if you hold them next to each other, every other time I use my phone the colours are fantastic!

qazax said:
I was sitting with a friend today who as a SII, he set his screen to max brightness and his wallpaper to microbes. I set my phone to the same settings, and it was obvious that the resolution helps as I saw more detail (smaller microbes and more of them) but the colours are better on the SII - more vibrant. most people know this anyway. It is only obvious if you hold them next to each other, every other time I use my phone the colours are fantastic!
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I read that Google purposely calibrated the screen to make the colours look less saturated and more accurately realistic. So are you sure that the reason the SGII looks more vibrant is not that the SGII colours are more saturated?

Galaxy Nexus Screen - What's Normal, What's Not. (Photos!)

Got the Nexus today and having no experience with the AMOLED screens (iPhones and EVO before) I'm not sure what is considered normal and what is defective. I know there are plenty of threads about this, but very few examples.
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Viewing Angle - UPDATE: My new Nexus has much less tint when viewed at an angle. *Colors adjusted to match as close as possible in Adobe Lightroom - and they are very close.
Viewing Angle - At extreme angles the screen with produce an iridescent effect.
Courtesy of TAMIM2007 - Left Galaxy nexus / right Galaxy 1
Courtesy of iansmith
Galaxy Nexus OLED's with a black screen showing red and green pixels are indeed slightly lit even though it should be "black" (15 second exposure).
Galaxy Nexus "black" vs LCD "black" (15 second exposure).
THESE ARE DEFECTS Exchange these phones... You shouldn't have to live like this!​
Courtesy of asb123 - Tint Fade at 0% brightness.
Courtesy of staticx57 - Black spots on a dark screen. Very common issue, odds are your replacement screen will have these, too.
Courtesy of blackhand1001 - Image Retention issues.
Courtesy of tonnytech - Banding and Transparent Lines
If other people want to add their own pictures for analysis I'll try and add them to the first post so people new to the AMOLED world can feel better about theirs/exchange for a new one.

I'm seeing the same thing with the whites. They almost feel like they have a yellow hue to them.
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normal with a pentile display same thing happened with the nexus s the rgb settings arent exactly correct

Aye completely normal. It's what a high-definition Pentile screen looks like.

Well, that answers that then.
Thanks guys.

Is this really supposed to be normal? I'm not convinced yet.

I came from a SGS2 and I can say the banding/lines/grey dots are much worse. The S2 seemed more glossy and colours seemed richer than the matt styled newspaper type of screen that the nexus has. I am quite annoyed as this was not mentioned in any of then reviews.
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very useful post, thanks OP. i just picked up the gn two days ago, and the screen is bothering me as well. i havent done as rigorous testing as the OP, but i definitely notice similar banding at lower brightnesses. from what it sounds like, it is normal.
i came from a nexus s 4g and gs2, i've never noticed this problem with AMOLEDs in the past. very disappointing so far.

wadyas said:
I came from a SGS2 and I can say the banding/lines/grey dots are much worse. The S2 seemed more glossy and colours seemed richer than the matt styled newspaper type of screen that the nexus has. I am quite annoyed as this was not mentioned in any of then reviews.
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that's because the sgs2 does not use pentile, it uses full rgb, at the cost of a considerably lower resolution.

Updated post to include an up close look at the PenTile display pixels. Appears the same as all the others FWIW.

nice thread, i think you should change the title and have a mod to sticky it, this helps people not starting useless threads about their display showing tint of yellow/blue/grey etc.

I think the sticky is a good idea as well. Not sure what i would need to change in the title though.
Who knows a mod? LOL

I wish I had seen this thread sooner. It almost seems like no one else is complaining about this issue. I'm afraid to turn in my GNex for replacement because I'm afraid the replacement will be much worse than this.

For some reasons, the AMOLED on Samsung phones (GS, GSII, etc.) are not that great with the stock settings Samsung pre-set.
Just wait until supercurio (the guy behind voodoo project) works his voodoo magic on the GN's AMOLED.
You'll be amazed.

andythefan said:
I wish I had seen this thread sooner. It almost seems like no one else is complaining about this issue. I'm afraid to turn in my GNex for replacement because I'm afraid the replacement will be much worse than this.
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For what it's worth I actually took mine back for a replacement since I had what looked almost like a fingerprint under the glass - and my replacement is somewhat better.
The blue hue when seen at an angle is a little less blue and the "linen" effect is a little more subdued as well. It's definitely still there though but I think it's worth it.
Oh why didn't they just make it standard RGB like the Galaxy S II?

chjade84 said:
For what it's worth I actually took mine back for a replacement since I had what looked almost like a fingerprint under the glass - and my replacement is somewhat better.
The blue hue when seen at an angle is a little less blue and the "linen" effect is a little more subdued as well. It's definitely still there though but I think it's worth it.
Oh why didn't they just make it standard RGB like the Galaxy S II?
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i've returned my galaxy nexus three time to the shop, and been through 5 units in the shop, problems were bright pixels, scratched screen inside and outside, random movement of the screen (like someone has been touching the screen continuously), in all cases the screen looked ok, just like the photos shown in first post, except for one that had a tint of purple/pink along the top of the screen(can only be seen in grey settings and dark rooms).
about the RGB, i dont think they have the technology to make super HD amoled display with RGB at low cost yet, but thats by guess.

I went to my local Verizon store, and all of the display models looked like this. A sales person let me compare to his phone, and his looked like this also.
Seems like this is just the new standard I guess, or maybe some of us have sensitive eyes.

RickROM said:
I went to my local Verizon store, and all of the display models looked like this. A sales person let me compare to his phone, and his looked like this also.
Seems like this is just the new standard I guess, or maybe some of us have sensitive eyes.
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It's one of those things that once you see it you can't unsee it and it will always bother you. I had the rezound before my nexus and the capacitive buttons all leaked light onto the screens. I had to point out this fact to the sales guy cause he didnt see it. Once he did he checked all of the display models and they all had the same problem.
That being said, all phones now a days seem to have some "problem" with them and sadly you need to pick the problems that seem to bother you the least.

As excited as I was for this phone, the screen alone made me return it. It's awful. It was sad comping it to my Palm Pre Plus of all instantly being amazed at how much better that screen looked compared to the Galaxy Nexus. I was never expecting to see a grainy screen full of banding.
It's also annoying no review pointed this out. I've always been annoyed at how vague most phone reviews are and the fact so many reviews just seem like they really aren't tech savvy because issues like this should be pointed out. The fact that I've read numerous reviews say the screen is absolutely gorgeous really makes me wonder if these reviewers are scared to be critical in fear of losing review units. Reviews should be critical and be picky about specifics so we don't have to discover these things after we purchase the phone.

I'm really not that impressed with the screen overall. Every unit I have seen (9) has had some issue with color consistency across the screen, or banding that never goes away at any brightness (let alone the linen effect). The screen on my fascinate (galaxy s) is downright amazing, with whites as bright as an iPhone 4 and great vibrancy. The galaxy nexus screen (every one I have seen) is washed out and yellow in comparison, almost like it has a disgusting tan film covering the screen). By itself it looks pretty good, but side by side with any other device (IPS or my galaxy s's pentile amoled) it looks like complete crap. I really don't know how Samsung screwed this up so badly and can only hope the color temperature can be changed via software to get rid of the disgusting yellow tint.

[Q] Weird camera pictures. Should I exchange my phone?

I recently discovered this on a white lumia 900 and wonder if this is normal or if I need to get my phone exchanged.
The camera always gives a slightly discolored halo in the middle of a picture taken without a flash. I took a picture of a blank white wall and the effect can be seen clearly in the piture. (I adjusted the brightness a bit) (since i cant post links)
imgur.com/caiBu
Also, it doesn't take really good pictures in the dark. One weird thing that I saw is in this picture below. I took a picture with the phone in complete darkness and then opened the picture on the phone. The screen looks black but then when you pinch-to-zoom and increase the picture size, all sorts of weird dots and stuff appear and also can be seen if you auto-correct the final image using any picture software. I clicked the picture of the phone screen in a dark room.
imgur.com/bnp0F

I got same problem

Vignetting, digital noise, and the laws of physics
randomlightspeed said:
I recently discovered this on a white lumia 900 and wonder if this is normal or if I need to get my phone exchanged.
The camera always gives a slightly discolored halo in the middle of a picture taken without a flash. I took a picture of a blank white wall and the effect can be seen clearly in the piture. (I adjusted the brightness a bit) (since i cant post links)
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Lulz. Welcome to the world of photography. You have discovered two things that have been discussed in photography for well over a century vignetting and noise/grain.
I have a $300 NONZOOM lens that if used on a $3000 camera will show vignetting if you shoot it wide open (f/1.4). Not sure why anyone would think the tiny lens on a mass produced phone handed out for free would be immune to that.
A guy bought a DSLR for $6,000 new and put a $1,500 lens on it. This is what he found...
randomlightspeed said:
Also, it doesn't take really good pictures in the dark. One weird thing that I saw is in this picture below. I took a picture with the phone in complete darkness and then opened the picture on the phone. The screen looks black but then when you pinch-to-zoom and increase the picture size, all sorts of weird dots and stuff appear and also can be seen if you auto-correct the final image using any picture software. I clicked the picture of the phone screen in a dark room.
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The Lumia 900 is an awesome phone but it has to obey the laws of physics. You can't cram eight megapixels into a space the fraction of the size of a fingernail and expect to get noise free images. That's why miniaturization and the megapixel race are an anathema to good photography. I'll put it to you this way one of the greatest photographers ever prefered to shoot his work with an 8x10 camera. That's right a camera with film that measured 8x10 per a frame. Now you are shooting in terrible lighting conditions with a sensor that is a fraction of the size of your fingernail. My question is what did you expect?
Here's a little primer on sensor sizes...
For professional photography Canon APS-C is really the minimum. Sigma Fovean can be used but it is a very unique technology. Four thirds cameras take some decent pictures as well but that is about the limit. FYI see that tiny green box on the left? The sensor you are critiquing is a fraction of the size of that. Also when I really want to take I nice shot I use a medium format FILM camera. It's negative is even bigger than the medium format sensor on that chart.
Arizona Highways is considered to be at the pinnacle of photographic magazines. It usually only uses images taken with FILM cameras like this...
So bottom line is that vignetting and digital noise are present to some degree in EVERY camera phone. Are they at an unacceptable level in your particular unit? I don't know. I would have to know a lot more about your testing methodology and see similar sample pics taken under the exact same conditions by a variety of phones. Your phone may be defective or you may just be one of those special people that really pays attention to the quality of photographs. Some people for whatever reason are just really tuned in to what looks good and what looks bad. I love showing people like that my pictures. They can actually appreciate them or at least tell me what looks bad.
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I got same problem
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Yeah so do people with three thousand dollar cameras. It's all a matter of degree.

Unfortunately, the camera on this phone sucks. I have one and it takes horrible pictures 90% of the time. 10% of the time you will be amazed at how great the pictures look, the rest of the time you will be disappointed.
Not sure how how Nokia screwed it up this bad.
randomlightspeed said:
I recently discovered this on a white lumia 900 and wonder if this is normal or if I need to get my phone exchanged.
The camera always gives a slightly discolored halo in the middle of a picture taken without a flash. I took a picture of a blank white wall and the effect can be seen clearly in the piture. (I adjusted the brightness a bit) (since i cant post links)
imgur.com/caiBu
Also, it doesn't take really good pictures in the dark. One weird thing that I saw is in this picture below. I took a picture with the phone in complete darkness and then opened the picture on the phone. The screen looks black but then when you pinch-to-zoom and increase the picture size, all sorts of weird dots and stuff appear and also can be seen if you auto-correct the final image using any picture software. I clicked the picture of the phone screen in a dark room.
imgur.com/bnp0F
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randomlightspeed said:
I recently discovered this on a white lumia 900 and wonder if this is normal or if I need to get my phone exchanged.
The camera always gives a slightly discolored halo in the middle of a picture taken without a flash. I took a picture of a blank white wall and the effect can be seen clearly in the piture. (I adjusted the brightness a bit) (since i cant post links)
imgur.com/caiBu
Also, it doesn't take really good pictures in the dark. One weird thing that I saw is in this picture below. I took a picture with the phone in complete darkness and then opened the picture on the phone. The screen looks black but then when you pinch-to-zoom and increase the picture size, all sorts of weird dots and stuff appear and also can be seen if you auto-correct the final image using any picture software. I clicked the picture of the phone screen in a dark room.
imgur.com/bnp0F
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Let me see if I can give a simple explanation..
For your halo effect or as you can see its yellowish in the middle a been a noted problem in the lumia phone ( Samsung SGS2 forums are filled with similar problems what they call as the pink spot).
Apparently the phone might have a problem of adjusting the white balance and hence giving the yellowish tint.
Solution : I would try and see if you can manually adjust the white balance on the camera setting and see if it makes a difference to you as people have seem to found better results then the auto settings.
Regarding the Second problem as mentioned above its Noise which you probably get with low light photography.
SOLUTION : Try using flash with lower iso if possible, The higher the iso the more the noise, the lower the iso the less the noice will be and also make your pictures more darker, best to use flash.
Just my humble thoughts... and I dont have the lumia yet, but hoping to purchase one soon.
There are quiet a number of bugs in the lumia 900 which nokia has acknowledged and will be addressed in future updates

bitemydonkey said:
Unfortunately, the camera on this phone sucks. I have one and it takes horrible pictures 90% of the time. 10% of the time you will be amazed at how great the pictures look, the rest of the time you will be disappointed.
Not sure how how Nokia screwed it up this bad.
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If your Lumia 900 is taking "horrible" pictures 90% of the time it is either defective our you aren't using it correctly.
There are several adjustments on the camera. I suggest playing with them. I definitely change the color balance depending on the lighting conditions and I mess with the scene settings as well.
When you say the pictures are "horrible" what are you comparing them to? Frankly I've never been impressed with the low light capability of sensors smaller than Canon APS-C. Especially if you decide to go pixel peeping the way the OP did. I pixel peeped an image from a point and shoot camera years ago... I never did it again. You see all kinds of things you don't really want to know about.

[Q] gnex camera vs...

I've read a lot or reviews and post saying that gnex camera is junk... but actually how is it? compare let said to an iphone 4 which is has same 5mp camera? or a SG2? or a Xperia arc? anybody has an idea which phone has a camera similar to the gnex and how bad really is it?

I've read a lot or reviews and post saying that gnex camera is junk..
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how does anything less than awesome = junk? Misstatements and exaggerations are not the good way to start a thread..

And that's why I'm asking... every single thread here and review said that "the camera sux" "the camera is useless" etc... since I dont own one, I was wondering how is compare to cameras that I've own in the past...

I think the camera is great. There may be better, but I'm coming from a droid 1 which had a pretty bad camera. The zero shutter lag is amazing.

The Camera is decent, not really "bad" by any means but of course it will be bad compared to the new generation of phones like the GS3 or iPhone 5.
Im actually quite surprised sometimes even if the shots are a little grainy. My friend even took a few decent pics in a club with the flash, so it will be good for most needs.
Its probably on par with the iPhone 4 camera. Maybe slightly better than it.

a few of my galaxy nexus photos..
anyone who says that the camera is bad just doesnt know how to use a camera
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^ Exactly. A camera is only as good as the photographer.
My friend can't use the "awesome" camera on his HTC 1s to save his life.
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btw, every one of those locations where these photos were taken, were under 4-7 feet of water monday night due to hurricane sandy

those pics look really good... if the camera is the same or more efficient than the one on iphone 4, is a good camera too me... I just wanted to be sure before buying this phone...

As a former S2 owner I can say that the picture quality of the Nexus is lower. I don't say that it's junk, but the difference is visible. What I like about he GNexus's camera is the zero shutter lag, it's quite helpfull in some ocassions. If you want good quality pictures use a dedicated camera, a smartphone is a smartphone. The pictures that I take with it are used mainly for Facebook and other social sites, the resolution or quality isn't that important.

simms22 said:
a few of my galaxy nexus photos..
anyone who says that the camera is bad just doesnt know how to use a camera
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Out of curiosity, are you using the stock app? or another? I agree for the most part this phone takes pretty good pictures...yours are excellent though.

Let's not exagerate. They are abover average, but they can't be compared with the ones taken by an S2, I4... they are of lower quality.

Hey Simms22
How do you take pictures like that. Mine come out fuzzy. Like it looks good before I take it, and then boom it looks so bad and ugly.
Sometimes I just take a screenshot Cuz that comes out Better then the picture. Why is it better before the actually taking a picture???
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sdmark said:
Out of curiosity, are you using the stock app? or another? I agree for the most part this phone takes pretty good pictures...yours are excellent though.
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stock camera app. but i do have to admit, photography has been a hobby of mine for over two decades. the place where most normal camera phone users dont look at is lighting. taking the right kind of photo for the lighting available, or finding ways to get the kind of lighting thats needed. many times its just a simple matter of tilting the phone at different angles, like sunset photos. when shooting sunset photos i tilt the phone at about 20-40 degrees. if you shoot the photo with the camera phone pointing stright at it, colors get washed out or photos are too dark(except the sun). by tilting the phone up, you get to see all the wonderful colors in the sky. there are lots of little tricks like this that could be learned. also, using a flash in daylight, i do this to bring out bright colors in flowers instead of letting the sun "bleach" the photos with overly bright light. also, very important in camera phones, is cleaning the camera lens cover before shooting. almost no one does this. photos appear slightly blurry or smudged if you dont.
same photo with and without a flash, completely changes the mood...
and a few more, all stock camera

I usually never use the flash. I agree with the screenshots solution but never tried that. For example the other night I wanted to take pictures of my lit pumpkins. The image was nice and dark and just showing the glowing faces. Snap a pic and it come out like a deep purple background and nasty. The image on the screen looks great but sucks once it captured it. I'm sure it would do the same thing with any other phone though.
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player911 said:
I usually never use the flash. I agree with the screenshots solution but never tried that. For example the other night I wanted to take pictures of my lit pumpkins. The image was nice and dark and just showing the glowing faces. Snap a pic and it come out like a deep purple background and nasty. The image on the screen looks great but sucks once it captured it. I'm sure it would do the same thing with any other phone though.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA Premium HD app
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the samoled screen of the gnex is pretty, but misleading. it tends to oversaturate colors and blacks. thats why photos look better on the phone, but not as vivid on other screens.

simms22 said:
the samoled screen of the gnex is pretty, but misleading. it tends to oversaturate colors and blacks. thats why photos look better on the phone, but not as vivid on other screens.
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you do great work!

Gnex camera is not so good on low light. I previously owned a galaxy note and the pics taken from that phone is better at low light. Not that surprising as the gnote is 8mp. Then again i literally suck in taking pictures. Gnex cam is not that good but not that bad either
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Photo quality

Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Samsung Galaxy Note 7 come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

10. Photos are amazing!

10... Would use for professional purposes.
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10 - Photos are great! No complaints here!
Example.

i've been testing the Note 7 camera side by side with the OnePlus 3 and Xiaomi MI 5 and Huawei P9 cameras, and while the Note 7 is slightly better, it's just very, very slightly, and it's mostly in low light setting. i don't see much difference in day time shots. i think in 2016, all smartphone cameras are pretty damn legit. so all these tech reviewers saying the Note 7 has "hands down the best camera by far", i don't agree with them. (it's worth keeping in mind all those other phones i mentioned cost literally HALF AS MUCH as the note 7)

I think I can safely retire my Sony NEX-6 now for majority of uses. The photos coming out of this camera are amazing.

Amazing even compared to my Fuji X T1.
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NIKKOTUASON said:
Amazing even compared to my Fuji X T1
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Please fix this.

I'm impressed so far.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-dYQXNfPs7UeGdhR2JSQ05HMGc/view?usp=drivesdk

S6 and S7 had white balance/colour temperature issues indoors.
Also overexposure.
S7 was noticeably soft in any conditions.
Does the Note 7 fix any of those?
Waiting to see way more side by side reviews.

I had no problem with indoor white balance under LED, but since you can have so many different variants in lightning I don't think there is a camera that would do it right all the time in auto mode, but you can switch to manual WB if you want.
overexposure, sure if you really work hard on it, like shoot from inside tunel against sun, but you can use spot meter in tricky light condition to keep what you need properly exposed, but auto works fine most of the time for me.
soft in any condition: are you talking about selfie cam? Because yes, that has fixed focus and will be soft, but rear cam doesn't seem soft when properly focused and again you have control where it should be focus on.
Have you actually used any of those cams, or just read about it somewhere, because I haven't so couldn't compare.
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radioraheem2 said:
i've been testing the Note 7 camera side by side with the OnePlus 3 and Xiaomi MI 5 and Huawei P9 cameras, and while the Note 7 is slightly better, it's just very, very slightly, and it's mostly in low light setting. i don't see much difference in day time shots. i think in 2016, all smartphone cameras are pretty damn legit. so all these tech reviewers saying the Note 7 has "hands down the best camera by far", i don't agree with them. (it's worth keeping in mind all those other phones i mentioned cost literally HALF AS MUCH as the note 7)
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Can OnePlus3, MI5 or P9 do underwater photography? Because I'm planning to, this weekend with N7.
Do any of those have something similar to s-pen? Because I use it everyday can't live without it and it would be nice to have other options.
Can I see the screen on other phones with sun shining directly on it? Because so far Note7 is the only screen I've seen that I have no problem seeing in full sun. But I haven't try any of the ones you mentioned.
And very very slightly better, so it is actually better?
Maybe there are reasons why N7 is more expensive, otherwise nobody would buy it? And with the discounts, free giveaways etc. maybe N7 is not as expensive as it first seem.

pete4k said:
I had no problem with indoor white balance under LED, but since you can have so many different variants in lightning I don't think there is a camera that would do it right all the time in auto mode, but you can switch to manual WB if you want.
overexposure, sure if you really work hard on it, like shoot from inside tunel against sun, but you can use spot meter in tricky light condition to keep what you need properly exposed, but auto works fine most of the time for me.
soft in any condition: are you talking about selfie cam? Because yes, that has fixed focus and will be soft, but rear cam doesn't seem soft when properly focused and again you have control where it should be focus on.
Have you actually used any of those cams, or just read about it somewhere, because I haven't so couldn't compare.
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Can OnePlus3, MI5 or P9 do underwater photography? Because I'm planning to, this weekend with N7.
Do any of those have something similar to s-pen? Because I use it everyday can't live without it and it would be nice to have other options.
Can I see the screen on other phones with sun shining directly on it? Because so far Note7 is the only screen I've seen that I have no problem seeing in full sun. But I haven't try any of the ones you mentioned.
And very very slightly better, so it is actually better?
Maybe there are reasons why N7 is more expensive, otherwise nobody would buy it? And with the discounts, free giveaways etc. maybe N7 is not as expensive as it first seem.
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The camera is slightly better. Here are photos to prove it (http://www.forbes.com/sites/bensin/...better-photos-than-far-cheaper-chinese-phones)
Of all the other bonus note features you mentioned, waterproofing is the only real universal useful feature that everyone would want. Hundreds of millions of people use a phone without a stylus and they couldn't care less. Plenty of people use the one plus 3 outdoors and sees the screen fine.
Using note 7's sales numberse to show the phone's supposed superiority is also a flawed argument, since a lot of that is branding and name recognition. It's like saying nike shoes are for sure the best because they sell the most.
I'm not really bashing the note 7 here, I have the phone and I like it a lot, I'm merely saying it's probably not worth more than double the price of the one plus 3, that's all I'm saying. 450 dollars more is not a small deal. 450 bucks can buy a lot, a lot of things.

It's tough to use the note front cam after using the 6P. The front cam on the 6P is an absolute monster, typically producing photos nearly as good as the REAR camera on my wife's iphone 6.
Vs the note 7 and S7e, the selfie cam pics are noticeably much less sharp and focused. A quick google search for blurry selfie pics for the Galaxy 7 devices yields countless forums of people complaining about this.
No idea if it's the software or the actual hardware that is the problem but it's absolutely there.

I am totally satisfied with the camera. (considering s4 and zenfone 2 were my previous devices.) I guess note 7 will be enough to handle daily shots for even business purposes. Any questions?

So, what's the difference between Bokeh (on the new iphone 7...after a software update) and what our phones do now....where the background is blurry?

meboy said:
S6 and S7 had white balance/colour temperature issues indoors.
Also overexposure.
S7 was noticeably soft in any conditions.
Does the Note 7 fix any of those?
Waiting to see way more side by side reviews.
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I confirm that the camera is perfect. I have Exynos version

I'm satisfied

AdrianR2016 said:
I confirm that the camera is perfect. I have Exynos version
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saturation and colors are great but oversharped a bit on my opinion

I think all photos a "yellow-ish" a bit and expose are too high in some difficult scenarios like front sun etc

If Samsung can decrease/eliminate the oversharpening part, it will be a perfect camera here.