[Q] Canadian Virgin WFS - HTC Wildfire S

Anyone unlock one of these? I seem to remember reading somewhere a few months back Bell (who now owns virgin) saying they will never unlock it.
However I see that there are "WWE" branded unlocks for my version, wtf?
Here is the url of the exact phone I have - http://www.virginmobile.ca/en/phones/phone-details.html?model=HTCWILD&colour=White
Please no "I unlocked my DerpCellular wfs, you can too!!" stupidity that most of these threads digress into, either you have the exact phone or not. Anyone who lives in Canada and deals with Bell will understand why this needs to be asked

Hey, another virgin canada user.
i have that exact phone (same colour too) with virgin. Mine unlocked just fine via the htcdev unlock. You just need to select the "Bell Mobility WWE" RUU when unlocking it.
unlocked and rooted. bye bye useless bell apps.
be sure to notice that the unlock does a factory reset. back your stuff (contacts!) up before you start on it.

So when you say unlocked using the DEV tool, does that mean its network and sim unlocked? Also just curious, I have a Bell SIM card, can I use this in this phone without unlocking the network/sim?

jhong88 said:
So when you say unlocked using the DEV tool, does that mean its network and sim unlocked? Also just curious, I have a Bell SIM card, can I use this in this phone without unlocking the network/sim?
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nope, the htcdev bit only unlocks the bootloader. the sim lock and all the other bits of s-on remain in place. you'll need an xtc clip or an unlock code if you want the ditch the network shackles.
as for the virgin->bell, no idea. there seems to be conflicting information on whether bell/virgin sims are interchangeable or not. some people report it works, other report it doesn't.

compro01 said:
Hey, another virgin canada user.
i have that exact phone (same colour too) with virgin. Mine unlocked just fine via the htcdev unlock. You just need to select the "Bell Mobility WWE" RUU when unlocking it.
unlocked and rooted. bye bye useless bell apps.
be sure to notice that the unlock does a factory reset. back your stuff (contacts!) up before you start on it.
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Excellent, I was NOT expecting to be able to do this.
And now for a stupid question, what is a good way to back everything up for a quick reinstall?

AFAIK, There isn't one really, other than exporting your contacts and writing down all your apps names, as all the real useful backup methods require root.
OTOH, unless you like customizing extensively, it should only take a day or two to get things back to normal.
sent from my rooted wildfire s

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[Q] Can you help me unlocking to have HOX working on another provider / operator ?

Hello,
I bought a second hand HOX last week. It was sold to me as unlocked from operator SFR (Vodaphone France, or CID VODAP203).
I bought an unlocking code from an internet shop, tried it, didn't work... I went into a shop specialized in unlocking phones they could not make it provider free...
So I went on to this forum. Plenty of nice things, and as I already rooted an Android tablet from TOSHIBA (FOLIO100), I tried a few things.
It appears that my phone is rooted. When I boot in bootloader it says "UNLOCKED", and it is also S-OFF!!! I am able to change the CID as much as I want, and I have set it to "11111111". As such I was told on a french forum that any SIM Card from any provider should work, but it doesn't...
I have been able to install Jelly Bean from one of the ROM developpers, thinking (and this is where I am a noob) that I will clear the part of the system that tells it is locked to one provider... Of course it didn't do anything more, or different than telling me it doesn't work on any provider.
I went back to stock from Vodaphone France, and came to you in order to get some instructions or link to have on working on another network than the vodaphone one...
Thanks in advance for your help,
Alain
First off, it's great you have an S-OFF handset. You are lucky about that.:good:
On the other hand, unlocking bootloader doesn't have anything to do with SIM locks. So, whatever you did (as you experienced it yourself) doesn't work.
I suggest you search over here, because I know for sure there is a way to unlock SIM lock on HOX. I didn't have to do it, as mine was already unlocked (or SIM free, I can't tell now).
Don't worry, you'll find the way, just be patient.
A bientot!
Yeah everyone told me it was great to have it S-OFF, although I don't know what it can do for me... I guess this would be great for developpers ?
I hope I won't have to go through several unlock code providers...
S-OFF is giving you advantage in being able to flash any ROM, any RUU, any HBOOT, any radio... Good not only for developers.
Back to topic - I suggest you visit some mobile phone service, and pay ONLY after they finish the work. I guess there are whole lot of frauds online,, that would take you money for the "unlock code", and not care if it doesn't work.
I repeat, be patient, and keep searching. Here's what I found (you can do the same search yourself):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1654075
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25341694&postcount=71
it cost me a whole £2.79 to get mine unlocked.
I bought the code from ebay inserted an un supported sim and entered the code when asked. That's the main reason actually why I've stuck with HTC they are so easy to un lock
huxleypig said:
That's the main reason actually why I've stuck with HTC they are so easy to un lock
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Mate, nowadays most phones are unlocked through pw.... code. Usually, you get it for specific handset (IMEI and operator), and just type it in as you did.
BTW, Samsung Galaxy SIII is even easier to unlock - by an apk from Google Play Store.
Hello,
I went through one of Unlock Code providers that [email protected]|-|oR provided me through his links...
I had the exact same unlock code as the one I got in France... that doesn't work. But the guys were really professional, in reimbursing my money as they could not unlock my phone.
The strangest thing is that they asked me if the phone is rooted, and said that this is why I cannot SIM Unlock, because it is rooted... I reverted by to stock, and re-locked the phone but the result is still the same, it stays stuck to SFR...
I hope a solution will come out in the form of an application such as the one for Galaxy III, it looks so easy to do.
Have a good evening,
Alain
Hi my phone was branded by orange and obviously had a simlock what did with my hox and many others before is:root the phone ,get recovery,then flash custom rom and all that branded garbage with simlock is gone.I've done it before with galaxy S,S2,now with my hox. Don't never ever buy any codes online.
budensik said:
Hi my phone was branded by orange and obviously had a simlock what did with my hox and many others before is:root the phone ,get recovery,then flash custom rom and all that branded garbage with simlock is gone.I've done it before with galaxy S,S2,now with my hox. Don't never ever buy any codes online.
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Hello,
I already did that, (root, flash customer ROM), but simlock is still here... only thing I didn't change is recovery, but it is 5.8.xxx (aka I think it is the latest).
Can you guide me rapidly in return ?
Al1
SIM unlock is totally separate from rooting.

[Q] How to determine which carrier I'm locked to when there are no bloatware apps?

I have a Canadian Bell S3 i747m which broke and I got some random guy to fix it for me. He frustratingly ended up installing a ROGERS circuit board(or so he says) without bothering to check the fact my phone was loaded with Bell bloatware or just asking me my carrier.
I now need to unlock the SIM in order to use it properly and I just want to be sure I have the correct information and I don't end up paying for an unlock code that will not work since I didn't provide the proper carrier.
My SIM card (not sure if that matters): BELL
My board/IMEI: ROGERS (Apparently)
I wanted to determine which carrier I was tied to but I see 0 bloatware in my phone which makes me think the guy is wrong/lying and it's not actually a Rogers board. Is there another way to determine which carrier my phone is tied to?
Cyclone112 said:
I have a Canadian Bell S3 i747m which broke and I got some random guy to fix it for me. He frustratingly ended up installing a ROGERS circuit board(or so he says) without bothering to check the fact my phone was loaded with Bell bloatware or just asking me my carrier.
I now need to unlock the SIM in order to use it properly and I just want to be sure I have the correct information and I don't end up paying for an unlock code that will not work since I didn't provide the proper carrier.
My SIM card (not sure if that matters): BELL
My board/IMEI: ROGERS (Apparently)
I wanted to determine which carrier I was tied to but I see 0 bloatware in my phone which makes me think the guy is wrong/lying and it's not actually a Rogers board. Is there another way to determine which carrier my phone is tied to?
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The carrier doesn't matter. Once unlocked, it's unlocked for every carrier (unless it's unlocked by code).
You could go check the APN to see which carrier it's from.
BWolf56 said:
The carrier doesn't matter. Once unlocked, it's unlocked for every carrier (unless it's unlocked by code).
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Oh really? I was looking at the gsmliberty site for unlocking and it asks for a carrier. I can't post the link since I'm a new account but here it is split:
gsmliberty(dot)net/shop/samsung-galaxy-s3-unlock-codes-p-3528.html
I then went into their Terms of Service and it specifies that if I provide an incorrect carrier and the unlock code doesn't work then I won't get a refund. Does this mean this site is BS and I should avoid it and find another?
EDIT: Oh I see you added info about checking the APN. Don't know what that is but I'll Google it. Assuming I find it should I still avoid gsmliberty or should I give them a shot?
BWolf56 said:
The carrier doesn't matter. Once unlocked, it's unlocked for every carrier (unless it's unlocked by code).
You could go check the APN to see which carrier it's from.
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I went to Settings > Connections > More networks > Mobile Networks and it tells me this: Insert SIM card to access network services
EDIT: Ok I finally found the AP and CSC by dialing *#1234# and then comparing it to sammobiles firmware to find out which carrier it is tied to. Still worried about the fact I get the SIM error above but hopefully that will go away when I attempt to unlock it
Cyclone112 said:
I went to Settings > Connections > More networks > Mobile Networks and it tells me this: Insert SIM card to access network services
EDIT: Maybe I'm looking at the wrong spot. Here is my phone's about in case that helps:
View attachment 2807396
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Umm I though you'd have access to it w/o a sim card.
I'm not sure how else you could determine which carrier the motherboard is locked to.
BWolf56 said:
Umm I though you'd have access to it w/o a sim card.
I'm not sure how else you could determine which carrier the motherboard is locked to.
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I just ended up editing my last post a minute before you posted this. I did determine the carrier and it is in fact Rogers. I was planning on just getting an unlock code through a website. You mentioned that means it will only be unlocked for them which I'm fine with but I'm just concerned about the fact I have a Bell SIM. Will that cause any problems with the unlock process or future dealings with BELL?
Actually I have a better question. Can I just put Bell's firmware on my phone instead of Rogers using Odin and then get an unlock for Bell and theoretically I'll be back to where I was?
What bootloader is on the phone? If you have the 4.3 bootloader, you'll have to buy an unlock code. If you have the 4.1.1 bootloader and you are running a stock ROM (doesn't matter about the carrier), you can use the free method to unlock it. If you have the 4.1.2 bootloader, downgrade to the Rogers 4.1.1 ROM and unlock it using the free method.
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What bootloader is on the phone? If you have the 4.3 bootloader, you'll have to buy an unlock code. If you have the 4.1.1 bootloader and you are running a stock ROM (doesn't matter about the carrier), you can use the free method to unlock it. If you have the 4.1.2 bootloader, downgrade to the Rogers 4.1.1 ROM and unlock it using the free method.
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I'm running 4.3 so I know I need an unlock code unfortunately. I have a Bell SIM card but have Rogers firmware. The site I was looking to buy an unlock code from asks for my carrier so I presume I need to use Rogers. Will that be fine or am I able to just throw Bell firmware on my phone and buy an unlock code specifying Bell as my carrier?
I am not sure of you can load the stock Bell firmware and change the phone so it is locked to Bell. If this were the case, owners could switch carriers by flashing different firmware.
Cyclone112 said:
I just ended up editing my last post a minute before you posted this. I did determine the carrier and it is in fact Rogers. I was planning on just getting an unlock code through a website. You mentioned that means it will only be unlocked for them which I'm fine with but I'm just concerned about the fact I have a Bell SIM. Will that cause any problems with the unlock process or future dealings with BELL?
Actually I have a better question. Can I just put Bell's firmware on my phone instead of Rogers using Odin and then get an unlock for Bell and theoretically I'll be back to where I was?
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Unlocking is permanent and unlocks to every carrier. Knowing which one you're locked to only matters to get a unlock code, after that, it's free for all.
BWolf56 said:
Unlocking is permanent and unlocks to every carrier. Knowing which one you're locked to only matters to get a unlock code, after that, it's free for all.
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Gotcha, so there's no point in flashing Bell firmware at all. I just need the correct one for getting an unlock code in the first place. Thanks for helping a noob out.

[Q] HTC one m9 unauthorized sim card

Hello guys, sorry to bother. I am contacting you to see if someone can help me, i´ve searched and searched the web without any luck. Almost three weeks ago i got here in Mexico an HTC one M9 from Telcel, I have two mobile phones two lines one telcel one iusacell. I needed to change the iusacell phone but did not like what they had. I got the telcel phone HTC one m9, and it was unlocked from telcel, i put my iusacell sim and worked great. Strangely after two weeks, the screen intact, with not a bump and a glass cover, internally failed and i sent it to a authorized center from the provider, they sent it to HTC and HTC sent me a brand new phone.
This new HTC one m9 works perfect with the telcel chip, i inserted the iusacell chip and it gave me message "UNAUTHORIZED SIM CARD, EC calls only". I assumed it was normal, went and bought the unlock code and tried to enter it, but i noticed it never popped the network unlock screen, it always pops the UNAUTHORIZED SIM CARD EC CALLS ONLY" message on the main screen and the only thing it lets me do with the iusacell chip is place emergency calls. no codes, not even to check imei.
I´ve been looking for support with no help, when entering the unlock code and hitting call (no ok button) it tells me its not an emergency call.
Searching i found that its probably that in the service menu (mode) they deactivated the network unlock screen, but i have not found how to get into the service mode of the phone, everywhere for older htcs they say its *#0011# but no luck, the only codes that work are the *#*#4636#*#* and the 3424 but none of them help me.
What can i do? I prefer to use my iphone for that line and use this phone for my other line which is on a different carrier.
Any ideas or help?
cheers and thanks
Ivan
They gave you a new phone, new motherboard and it's not unlocked. I would assume. It'll probably need to be simple unlocked again. With the first phone you had to request that it be unlocked right?
grim489 said:
They gave you a new phone, new motherboard and it's not unlocked. I would assume. It'll probably need to be simple unlocked again. With the first phone you had to request that it be unlocked right?
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Strangely enough the first phone i bought came unlocked, i had purchased online the unlock code but when i inserted another sim i did not require it. The problem with this replacement M9 is that although i´ve already bought the unlock code the screen never prompts for the network unlock code. When i insert a different sim that from the carrier (telcel) it prompts an "UNAUTHORIZED SIM CARD; ER CALLS ONLY", i´ve inserted IUSACELL MEXICO SIM, ATT USA SIM
TMOBILE USA SIM all with the same result.
cheers
Ivan
I know with the T-Mobile phones, or at least I'm pretty sure, we have to flash an international rom to get that screen to come up. Kinda sucks but maybe that's the problem?
grim489 said:
I know with the T-Mobile phones, or at least I'm pretty sure, we have to flash an international rom to get that screen to come up. Kinda sucks but maybe that's the problem?
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Thanks I was considering it, i think its a possibility, although, i havent searched much but there is still no way to free the bootloader of an HTC one M9 and im sure myne is pretty locked up =(
cheers Ivan
You can unlock it or s-off , but a-off is $25. Unlock is free on HTC Dev unlock. It's pretty easy, have you used HTC dev unlock before?
grim489 said:
You can unlock it or s-off , but a-off is $25. Unlock is free on HTC Dev unlock. It's pretty easy, have you used HTC dev unlock before?
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thanks yes i´ve used it before, but HTC still does not list as an option the M9, only the M9
cheers
Ivan
It works I've used it. You have to select the very bottom option, it says something like all other models
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I know with the T-Mobile phones, or at least I'm pretty sure, we have to flash an international rom to get that screen to come up. Kinda sucks but maybe that's the problem?
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I finally got the bootloader unlocked, root and s-off, now the question would be what rom should i flash in order to get the unauthorized sim card message out when i insert a different carrier sim, so the network unlock screen pops and i am able to enter the unlock code?
cheers and thanks
Ivan
ivanaesc said:
I finally got the bootloader unlocked, root and s-off, now the question would be what rom should i flash in order to get the unauthorized sim card message out when i insert a different carrier sim, so the network unlock screen pops and i am able to enter the unlock code?
cheers and thanks
Ivan
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I used ARHD to unlock my T-Mobile m9. Prior to that I also wasn't getting the option of putting in sim unlock code similar to yours. However once you flash and sim unlock it, you can flash any rom and the sim unlock will stick. Good luck.
Sent from my HTC One M9 using XDA Free mobile app
Thanks =) i did manage to get a new rom into it ARHD and interesting enough when inserting a different carrier sim now I do get the network unlock code screen. I tested the pin i had bought and it did not work, I asked and they told me they will try to find it out. I did try a few more services to buy the code but they all tell me that they cannot find my IMEI in their database. This i find really strange, does anyone know what can it be? I need to unlock since i will be travelling to the USA and want to put a prepaid card into my phone.
cheers
Ivan
I had the same problem as you. My HTC was originally from T-Mobile, I unlocked bootloader, flashed latest TWRP recovery, rooted and S-off'ed. After that I also set CID to BS_US001 and MID to 0PJA11000
After that downloaded Developer Edition RUU from http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-one-m9/general/att-developer-edition-ruu-how-to-t3086948 (use the 1.32.617.30 RUU.zip, using the 0PJAIMG.ZIP method), after that you will be prompted to insert unlock code and receive latest updates, hope it helps!
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This is for not found service, http://www.ebay.com/itm/HTC-not-found-Unfound-unlock-code-for-Telus-Kado-Wind-Bell-solo-AT-T-T-mobile-/281679367246?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item4195660c4e
If you already bought and received an unlock code there is a big probability that you had a typo with your imei maybe. Usually when you receive an unlock code they tend to always work. Hope it helps
Hold on there's a tested and working free sim unlock in here somewhere! I have used it and multiple others, let me try to get the link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3143333
Sent from my HTC One M9 using Tapatalk

How to Sim unlock HTC ONE M8?

**I'm an amateur at posting threads **
First I tried to SIM unlock by paying but none of those codes were working, after I rooted my phone, followed some threads and tutorials but none of them worked.
Any solution?
HTC ONE M8 :
-Android Version : 5.0.1
-Phone is European ( I am located in Europe)
Quantix said:
after I rooted my phone, followed some threads and tutorials but none of them worked.
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If you are trying tutorials for other phones, they won't work; and you should stop doing that.
The only "mod" or "hack" (free) method to unlock the SIM on the M8 required s-off. And it no longer works on Lollipop.
Paid unlock services are probably your best bet. What pay sites did you try? I've seen cellunlocker.net recommended by various XDA members, but I've never used it myself (and can't personally vouch for the service). And those recommendations were on the One X (EVITA) so I'm not sure how well they can unlock the M8.
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If you are trying tutorials for other phones, they won't work; and you should stop doing that.
The only "mod" or "hack" (free) method to unlock the SIM on the M8 required s-off. And it no longer works on Lollipop.
Paid unlock services are probably your best bet. What pay sites did you try? I've seen cellunlocker.net recommended by various XDA members, but I've never used it myself (and can't personally vouch for the service). And those recommendations were on the One X (EVITA) so I'm not sure how well they can unlock the M8.
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I tried UnlockRiver. They sent me the unlock code but it didn't work, It's because they said it is a newer version of phone.
Quantix said:
I tried UnlockRiver. They sent me the unlock code but it didn't work, It's because they said it is a newer version of phone.
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I'd suggest another service, possibly a few. They can be a bit hit or miss with getting a working code on some of these devices.
SuperCID
redpoint73 said:
I'd suggest another service, possibly a few. They can be a bit hit or miss with getting a working code on some of these devices.
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I am wondering about SIM unlocking my AT&T variant to use over sees. I currently have SuperCID but wasnt sure if that accomplished basically the same thing as SIM unlock. Thanks.
thelangosta said:
I am wondering about SIM unlocking my AT&T variant to use over sees.
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Go to AT&T's website, and fill out the form to get the unlock SIM code. I don't even think you need to be an ATT customer to do this. Although sometimes, folks have had problems with the device's IMEI not being found in the database.
I think a law was passed within the last couple years, that US carriers need to allow customers to SIM unlock their phones.
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I currently have SuperCID but wasnt sure if that accomplished basically the same thing as SIM unlock. Thanks.
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This worked (SuperCID gave SIM unlock) early on when the phone released, but hasn't been the case for quite a while now.
You can try S-OFF.
1: Unlock yoru bootloader with htcdev
2: Flash twrp and SuperSU
3: Install SunShine S-OFF apk ( from: theroot.ninja )
4: And your phone is Sim Unlocked
5: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2735235 use this to back 100% stock EU
6: Use One_M8_All-In-One_Kit_v and click Command: Return to S-ON
Your phone is 100% Stock, you have a waranty and your phone is Sim unlocked.
czifraj2 said:
You can try S-OFF.
1: Unlock yoru bootloader with htcdev
2: Flash twrp and SuperSU
3: Install SunShine S-OFF apk ( from: theroot.ninja )
4: And your phone is Sim Unlocked
5: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2735235 use this to back 100% stock EU
6: Use One_M8_All-In-One_Kit_v and click Command: Return to S-ON
Your phone is 100% Stock, you have a waranty and your phone is Sim unlocked.
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S-off does NOT automatically sim unlock the phone ! And next time read the comments above yours !!!
Mr Hofs said:
S-off does NOT automatically sim unlock the phone ! And next time read the comments above yours !!!
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I used S-OFF ago a 2 hours! I have got a Hungarian Vodafone phone and now this phone Unlocked I try Hungarian T-Mobile sim card and Hungarian Telenor sim card and worked! I can call and send sms and i have a mobile data... So?
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I used S-OFF ago a 2 hours! I have got a Hungarian Vodafone phone and now this phone Unlocked I try Hungarian T-Mobile sim card and Hungarian Telenor sim card and worked! I can call and send sms and i have a mobile data... So?
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Did you try other carrier SIMs before you were superCID? It may have worked then as well. It seems there is a good chance that you bought an unlocked phone.
czifraj2 said:
I used S-OFF ago a 2 hours! I have got a Hungarian Vodafone phone and now this phone Unlocked I try Hungarian T-Mobile sim card and Hungarian Telenor sim card and worked! I can call and send sms and i have a mobile data... So?
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So nothing, there is no proof that it was locked anyway. I know my stuff just like redpoint. My previous comment stays.
Who says it you haven't gotten a refurbished one, maybe it was factory unlocked already. Even new phones are shipped with s-off already !
I (we) have seen so many carrier locked threads here that i can tell you that s-off does not give you carrier unlock features. There is more needed and the tutorial that was active doesn't work anymore ! I'm long enough around here to say that with a 200%......
Have you even been reading up on this topic, did you have a read here about what's needed to achieve sim unlock ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708567
So.......
Mr Hofs said:
S-off does NOT automatically sim unlock the phone !
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I agree to this; and also to the notion that the device was probably just SIM unlocked to begin with.

Sim unlock options for GSM Variant

So, after searching the forum, I haven't found anything that really answers my question...
I have the GSM Variant of the HTC 10. It's currently locked to Bell Mobility in Canada. I am looking to unlock this phone without paying Bell the fees they charge for unlocking. From the XDA searches and reading I've done, it looks like there may be a free way of accomplishing this... I found a post that indicates that the Sprint method may or may not work, but you need S-Off...
I found another post that suggests its the exact same as the HTC One M9 and I can use the directions from there. It also indicated that it was only for the Sprint HTC 10 too...
My question is, is there a free unlock method for the GSM HTC 10? Or does it only work with the Sprint version?
According to some googlling, you share the same phone as US unlocked model, based on MID (model ID). You would need S-off to flash a different modem though. modem partition is blocked by s-on feature. sunshine app and java cards are the only way to S-off. both are paid though, sunshine $25.
CID: BM 001
MID: 2PS650000
proceed at your own risk and research well :good:
Right. I think I knew that... ...which means that changing the CID would allow me to flash any RUU for Model 2PS6500, and should theoretically work period.
Which leads to another question I had after posting... Would flashing the US Unlocked RUU remove the sim lock on the phone? I've heard that an RUU replaces everything on the phone with pristine, shiny new code straight from HTC... Would this also replace the code that effectively locks the phone to Bell?
If that is the case, this could be far too good to be true...
Edit: Almost forgot. Perhaps slightly off topic, but what is a java card?
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Right. I think I knew that... ...which means that changing the CID would allow me to flash any RUU for Model 2PS6500, and should theoretically work period.
Which leads to another question I had after posting... Would flashing the US Unlocked RUU remove the sim lock on the phone? I've heard that an RUU replaces everything on the phone with pristine, shiny new code straight from HTC... Would this also replace the code that effectively locks the phone to Bell?
If that is the case, this could be far too good to be true...
Edit: Almost forgot. Perhaps slightly off topic, but what is a java card?
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I've read that changing the MID/CID and flashing a modem is enough but.... since I can't quote it I cannot help you with that unfortunately. but should give you a running start, good luck
Thanks a bunch for the info. The thanks button didn't seem like enough thanks for the info.
Also, I'll post my procedures and results here, so if it doesn't work, at least we have a record.
atirox said:
Thanks a bunch for the info. The thanks button didn't seem like enough thanks for the info.
Also, I'll post my procedures and results here, so if it doesn't work, at least we have a record.
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you're welcome and I just google searched quickly and didn't find anything solid but again I'm sure you'll figure out a way.
So, just an update.
I used a website that allowed me to use trialpay to get my SIM Lock code, which worked beautifully.
Unfortunately, Bell Mobility seems to be in the market of continuing to cripple their phones... I've inserted my Rogers sim card and found that voice and text both work on Rogers. Data, does not (cannot set APN settings, not don't know how), along with LTE. Given that the phone supports all the bands that Rogers uses in Canada, I would not be overly surprised to find out that Bell crippled the radio firmware to ensure that the phone would perform it's best only on the Bell network. Heck, they did it with the CDMA Nokia phones, and with the old school Blackberries to ensure their revenue stream...
atirox said:
So, just an update.
I used a website that allowed me to use trialpay to get my SIM Lock code, which worked beautifully.
Unfortunately, Bell Mobility seems to be in the market of continuing to cripple their phones... I've inserted my Rogers sim card and found that voice and text both work on Rogers. Data, does not (cannot set APN settings, not don't know how), along with LTE. Given that the phone supports all the bands that Rogers uses in Canada, I would not be overly surprised to find out that Bell crippled the radio firmware to ensure that the phone would perform it's best only on the Bell network. Heck, they did it with the CDMA Nokia phones, and with the old school Blackberries to ensure their revenue stream...
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Maybe now is the time for that s-off and flashing of U.S Unlocked ruu.
The other thing you can try before spending the cash to s-off is unlocking your bootloader, flashing a custom rom and seeing if you can add a new apn from there. I'm very much surprised Bell would block that btw, I've unlocked Bell gsm phones and added new apn settings in the past.
While with XDA im all for free unlocking etc, if you are not S-off then it might be a bit hard
https://sim-unlock.net/site/HTC/10/
Ive had a stupid amount of phones and ive used these guys everytime ive needed a SIM unlock done.
Never failed once and if you can spend the money, it might be worth it in your case here... Against s-off - $25...
For me its a no brainer... I mean for 9 euros?....
But if you have already unlocked and they have crippled it like you say, then deffo go for s off
Fellas, correct me if I'm wrong, but if the SIM is unlocked, then all that's needed is to unlock the bootloader. That can be done for free via HTC Dev if you have tech chops, or via Sunshine (probably the better choice anyway). Then all that's needed is to change the CID and MID, and flash a WWE RUU. That would solve the problem, no?
BillTheCat said:
Fellas, correct me if I'm wrong, but if the SIM is unlocked, then all that's needed is to unlock the bootloader. That can be done for free via HTC Dev if you have tech chops, or via Sunshine (probably the better choice anyway). Then all that's needed is to change the CID and MID, and flash a WWE RUU. That would solve the problem, no?
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Yeah that's what I was suggesting as well. Bootloader unlock and flash a custom rom first to see if he's able to add new apns that way, and if that fails just go full s-off and run the unlocked RUU (unlocked is the better option here over wwe, same mid I believe and better support for updates).
BillTheCat said:
Fellas, correct me if I'm wrong, but if the SIM is unlocked, then all that's needed is to unlock the bootloader. That can be done for free via HTC Dev if you have tech chops, or via Sunshine (probably the better choice anyway). Then all that's needed is to change the CID and MID, and flash a WWE RUU. That would solve the problem, no?
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This is my thinking... I wanted the US Unlocked version anyway, but got the Bell one since I live in Canada, and was with Bell anyway. Actually, the SIM lock and the bootloader lock are two different locks. You don't have to remove the Simlock to remove the bootloader lock.
Tarima said:
Maybe now is the time for that s-off and flashing of U.S Unlocked ruu.
The other thing you can try before spending the cash to s-off is unlocking your bootloader, flashing a custom rom and seeing if you can add a new apn from there. I'm very much surprised Bell would block that btw, I've unlocked Bell gsm phones and added new apn settings in the past.
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I thought about it, but in the end I want US Unlocked due to speediness of updates as well as no more Bell tainted android.
Here is why I suspect Bell blocked it... When I go to view available APN's, all it shows on screen is a message essentially saying APN's cannot be added for this provider.. Also (took me a bit to clue in), LTE doesn't work on Rogers. If I had to guess, Bell wanted to make sure all the HTC 10's it sold stayed on it's network. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest... The Nokia 6275i was a kick butt awesome CDMA phone back in it's day. AMAZING call quality. Think VoLTE quality on 1xRTT. I don't know how they did it, but it must be a mix of pixie dust and unicorn blood... Anyway, every 6275i Bell sold was severely crippled. No Nokia Maps, just Bell's lame interpretation. Google maps wouldn't work either because it couldn't access the GPS, only Bells navigation app could. Couldn't set a custom ringtone unless it was purchased from Bell. Yet every other 6275i didn't suffer from these issues... Just ones sold by Bell.
So, an update to those interested....
I am now S-Off running US Unlocked firmware.
CID: BS_US001
MID: 2PS650000
Flashing to US Unlocked firmware seemed to do the trick for data. I can now set APNs and data does work. YAY!
Things to do:
1) Figure out why LTE signal sucks...
For whatever reason, the HTC 10 doesn't get LTE at home... I had a Samsung Galaxy S7 (SM-G930W8) briefly which didn't always get LTE at home, but it at least had useable signal, whereas the HTC 10 doesn't, at least not on Rogers. When flashed with Bell firmware it worked as good as the S7 did. I have a theory that when I ran the RUU to change firmware variants, it didn't update the modem firmware... Also, upon further research, it looks like there are partitions that store configuration data for the modem called modemst1 and modemst2, which I'd bet are still configured for Bell, which means they probably set it up to never use LTE on another Canadian network unless you can't get signal on anything else...
2) Figure out how to change Device Certification back to certified.
I'm pretty sure this is because the bootloader is still unlocked... I'm going to try setting it back to locked which shouldn't make a difference to my ability to flash because the phone is S-Off anyway but it may make the difference to Google's Device Certification
3) Maybe try an aftermarket rom, etc... Basically whatever I want.
I actually quite like HTC Sense... Not sure I want to get rid of it just yet. Was thinking of going with Viper due to Wi-Fi Calling being enabled/supported since Rogers supports Wi-Fi Calling, and I refuse to believe I can't make it work on here... It worked on the S7 (same model my wife had on Bell), so why can't it work here? I am also open to suggestions as to good roms to use, so if you think it's good, let me know what rom and why and I may just give it a shot...
atirox said:
So, an update to those interested....
I am now S-Off running US Unlocked firmware.
CID: BS_US001
MID: 2PS650000
Flashing to US Unlocked firmware seemed to do the trick for data. I can now set APNs and data does work. YAY!
Things to do:
1) Figure out why LTE signal sucks...
For whatever reason, the HTC 10 doesn't get LTE at home... I had a Samsung Galaxy S7 (SM-G930W8) briefly which didn't always get LTE at home, but it at least had useable signal, whereas the HTC 10 doesn't, at least not on Rogers. When flashed with Bell firmware it worked as good as the S7 did. I have a theory that when I ran the RUU to change firmware variants, it didn't update the modem firmware... Also, upon further research, it looks like there are partitions that store configuration data for the modem called modemst1 and modemst2, which I'd bet are still configured for Bell, which means they probably set it up to never use LTE on another Canadian network unless you can't get signal on anything else...
2) Figure out how to change Device Certification back to certified.
I'm pretty sure this is because the bootloader is still unlocked... I'm going to try setting it back to locked which shouldn't make a difference to my ability to flash because the phone is S-Off anyway but it may make the difference to Google's Device Certification
3) Maybe try an aftermarket rom, etc... Basically whatever I want.
I actually quite like HTC Sense... Not sure I want to get rid of it just yet. Was thinking of going with Viper due to Wi-Fi Calling being enabled/supported since Rogers supports Wi-Fi Calling, and I refuse to believe I can't make it work on here... It worked on the S7 (same model my wife had on Bell), so why can't it work here? I am also open to suggestions as to good roms to use, so if you think it's good, let me know what rom and why and I may just give it a shot...
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FYI you can clear the modem settings using the following from bootloader mode:
fastboot erase modemst1
fastboot erase modemst2
Tarima said:
FYI you can clear the modem settings using the following from bootloader mode:
fastboot erase modemst1
fastboot erase modemst2
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I tried with HTC_fastboot and normal fastboot but:
Code:
htc_fastboot v3.0.9.2 (2015-05-29)
erasing 'modemst2'...
FAILED (remote: Partition modemst2 erase not supported)
finished. total time: 0.001s
htc_fastboot finished. total time: 0.235s
nightauthor said:
I tried with HTC_fastboot and normal fastboot but:
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From bootloader mode?
Tarima said:
From bootloader mode?
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Yeah, I found the bootloader thing in another thread, thanks for the follow up though.
I've tried flashing US Unlocked, was prompted for a sim unlock code when I put a Verizon sim in my Tmobile phone.
So I tried flashing Verizon firmware, it told me that my verizon sim... was not a verizon sim.
Did the modem reset, didnt make a difference. Not sure what else to try.
Updates
So, as an update to any parties interested,
I've resolved some of the data issues I was having, where data didn't seem to work unless I was using LTE.
It seems that it's a joint problem between me and Rogers.
My problem was that even though the US Unlocked variant appears to be using the same radio firmware as the Bell variant, the Bell variant seems to have better programming, since I've been getting stronger signal in more areas, as well as slightly better throughput on HSPA connections. The issue I had with APN's and Bell firmware seemed to sort its self out after flashing back to the Bell variant from US Unlocked.
The Rogers end of the problem, is the Rogers network in Manitoba appears to have been a joint venture between Rogers and MTS, prior to MTS being bought out by Bell Mobility. Now that Bell has taken control of MTS, it sounds like Bell realized a lot of the MTS equipment was outdated, and has been attempting upgrades, which seem to be causing more problems than what they're worth. A co-worker is with MTS, and has been having a heck of a time with all of his services from MTS, and the technician's he's spoken to have led on to some deeper issues than what he's seeing. I would imagine that since the agreement was between Rogers and MTS originally, that Bell will have to honor that agreement for at least some time, which (to me) says that my HSPA data slowness could be due to Bell attempting to update the shared hardware between MTS and Rogers.
nightauthor said:
I've tried flashing US Unlocked, was prompted for a sim unlock code when I put a Verizon sim in my Tmobile phone.
So I tried flashing Verizon firmware, it told me that my verizon sim... was not a verizon sim.
Did the modem reset, didnt make a difference. Not sure what else to try.
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I'm not sure that flashing the VZW firmware would write to RFG_8 (the simlock partition)... If that simlock partition hasn't been rewritten, you're phone is likely still locked to T-Mobile, but with no way to unlock it though the VZW firmware since AFAIK T-Mobile uses an app to remove the simlock. The modem reset would only reset the parameters of the modem, not remove the sim lock...

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