Hi All,
I'm a little new to Android (being a long suffering WinMo users) and love the OS except for one little issue (which I can't find reference for any where!), the issue is:
When I receive meeting requests into my mailbox (via activesync) there's no way of previewing them in my calendar! With the latest versions of WinMo any new meeting requests in my inbox would also exist in my calendar so I could easily see if I can accept or decline the meeting. With my desire, it seems I have to accept, look in my calendar then send a decline if it's not right!
Please, any help would be most appreciated, am I missing something (configuration of app that will help!?)
Also, on the subject of calendar, does anyone know of a way to enter or view appointment timezones?
Unfortunately I'm a big traveler so I arranging/receiving meetings in other timezones is very common!
Cheers
Matt
PS. Can a mod move this to General... I've posted to dev by mistake!!!
I noticed there is no search option in GN default corporate email app. Did they took out search or am I missing something? Very important feature IMO.
I bought touchdown a long time ago. It is so much more full featured than the built in exchange client it's not even a contest. It's paid for itself many times over.
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There's a search option in the stock email app. Spyglass at the bottom of the screen, above the back button. It seems to actually search bodies as well, which the Gingerbread version did not IIRC. (This may be dependent on the version of Exchange you're connected to, we are on 2007 which does allow for mobile search but the phone has to implement it correctly.)
I used to use Touchdown a long time ago (OG droid release), but through several phone switches and steady improvement of the Exchange client, I've been able to stop using it. It is ugly as sin and I don't like having my corporate contacts split from the rest of the phone, as I use Exchange for all of my contacts and ignore GMail contacts.
The GNex version of the client is actually really good and pretty full-featured at this point.
Touchdown is great and I have been using it on gingerbread phone (best app that can do html email on exchange 2003).
But the default email app on GN is great. I love how the emails look and GAL lookup work.
ZPrimed,
I do not see the spyglass button on my app. Maybe because I am using exchange 2003. We are upgrading to exch 2010 , so hopefully the spyglass button will be available in that version.
One feature touchdown has that I use regularly is the ability to do a server search since I don't sync nearly as much mail down as my server holds.
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knightrider2k2 said:
Touchdown is great and I have been using it on gingerbread phone (best app that can do html email on exchange 2003).
But the default email app on GN is great. I love how the emails look and GAL lookup work.
ZPrimed,
I do not see the spyglass button on my app. Maybe because I am using exchange 2003. We are upgrading to exch 2010 , so hopefully the spyglass button will be available in that version.
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That's your problem.
The search is implemented by making a request to the Exchange server and asking it to perform the search (with its own full-text indexes of your mailbox). The server then spits results back to your phone. IIRC 2003 can't do this, or if it can, the option isn't enabled by default.
Exchange 2010 will allow you to do it.
IME, most phone e-mail apps that have a search and DON'T implement server-side search only allow you to look in the sender address and subject - you don't get full body searching, unless they are storing it all in a DB on the phone and indexing that separately (and even then, you only get 30 days worth of results or whatever you have it set to pull in your folders).
Touchdown Honeycomb version (Tablets) works on ICS
Existing Touchdown users. Dev modified it to work on ICS phones, MUST be using latest beta build until he finishes formal testing and releases to Android Market:
You can get that beta from here:
http://nitrodesk.com/tddownloads/nitroidbeta-honey.apk
Server Side search works great he also added a less pushy push implementation which is using less battery for me than the ICS mail app.
As above. Can't because there is no demand, can it? One of the big let-downs for me coming from PalmOS and Agendus is the really week Calendar app. Let's not get into the bizarre two week limit on past events! I also miss the tweakability of ChatterEmail. But that was then ...
So why no PIM or email apps? Is it a programming issue? Is the WP market entertainment, not enterprise? Will it change with Apollo/WP8?
Just wondering.
PS: other than that I love WP7. Just hoping for more.
truthfully the built in is so good and i use exchange so i never really thought about it. I also have yet to see anyone but you so far ask for it, so i am not thinking the demand is there yet. I have see in the marketplace a few task and calendar apps though.
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truthfully the built in is so good and i use exchange so i never really thought about it. I also have yet to see anyone but you so far ask for it, so i am not thinking the demand is there yet. I have see in the marketplace a few task and calendar apps though.
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PIM was very useful on WM, I don't understand why there is no demand for it? I guess it is what it is, Don't want to even ask because I don't what to hear some [email protected]$$ fanboy comment about that feature is so 1999 or something.
The real reason is that everything is sandboxed.
You don't have direct access. You used to just import poutlook.dll Then you could send an email. It would go into the phone's outbox for the account you wanted to send with. It would get sent on the next sync.
Now, you will be asked if you want to send the mail.
Also, I don't think there is any way to programatically get at the content of your emails. This is actually a good security piece. Imagine a dev writing a pretty cool app. You use it. Only months later you find that the content of all email messages on your phone were being sent to the dev while you used the app through a http post.
This is the why. Now, Microsoft could provide controls that would access this information.
Back in Windows Mobile, I wrote an app for users of Sense that also used the Facebook tab that would go through all of your contacts that were linked to Facebook. It would let the user update the contact with the Facebook pic. It used poutlook.dll.
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truthfully the built in is so good and i use exchange so i never really thought about it.
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Built-in so good? I don't think so. Good as far as it goes maybe. I too use Exchange, that's the backend. It's the presentation of the PIM data that is so lacking.
Needs more views. Today summary. Ledger view for day. 5/7 day week view. A proper month view, with readable text and icons. Templates, filtering. Ability to duplicate events. Tasks in the tile. Lots of little things. When I think what could be packed into my little 320 X 320 Centro display ...
Have a look at the features in the iOS and Android versions of PocketInformant or Agendus.
While I'm at it, the email app needs customisable notifications per mailbox.
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The real reason is that everything is sandboxed.
You don't have direct access.
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The more I look, the more I'm getting that message. Just have to see what the future holds.
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Built-in so good? I don't think so. Good as far as it goes maybe. I too use Exchange, that's the backend. It's the presentation of the PIM data that is so lacking.
Needs more views. Today summary. Ledger view for day. 5/7 day week view. A proper month view, with readable text and icons. Templates, filtering. Ability to duplicate events. Tasks in the tile. Lots of little things. When I think what could be packed into my little 320 X 320 Centro display ...
Have a look at the features in the iOS and Android versions of PocketInformant or Agendus.
While I'm at it, the email app needs customisable notifications per mailbox.
The more I look, the more I'm getting that message. Just have to see what the future holds.
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PIM is only needed for sms and history. Exchange or hotmail backs up the rest when you put contacts in unless you don't have a data plan. And if you want it all backed up... here yah go (only for stock roms)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1346276
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Needs more views. Today summary. Ledger view for day. 5/7 day week view. A proper month view, with readable text and icons. Templates, filtering. Ability to duplicate events. Tasks in the tile. Lots of little things. When I think what could be packed into my little 320 X 320 Centro display ...
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Let me break this down for you...
Duplicate events... go to the event, scroll down, hit more details. press occurs, Choose once, everyday, every weekday, every saturday, every (Day number) of the month, ever month day (as in yearly)
For Tasks in the tile - while on agenda,
Week view? for someone that has a lot of appointments, weekview is never readable, same with month. At least in month you can tell there is an appointment and click on it.
For tasks tile that syncs with exchange try this one - http://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/apps/3455bef8-895d-49d6-9c71-131a8fd0106a
They do however show in agenda once you have opened the task
ROCOAFZ. Maybe you don't understand what I was trying to explain (BOTD). Also, please don't be so defensive, I'm not trying to diss WP. I'll be in for the long run. But if I see (IMO) a weakness I will point it out. And to me the functionality in the Calendar app is poor. Especially when other parts of the OS are so good.
Responding to your points ...
Firstly, forget about Exchange, etc. I'm not talking about backing up. I'm talking about the presentation and management of the data. I don't care where it's stored. Could be local, could be cloud - doesn't matter.
Secondly, when I use the term PIM, I mean it in the broadest possible way. I want to manage my personal info. Traditionally, on PDAs, that meant calendar, contacts and tasks. Smartphones have replaced PDAs, so now I want my current smartphone to do this at least as well.
Thirdly, the intent of the original post was to query why there are no 3rd-party PIM-type apps available for WP7. There are for iOS and Android, even BB. There were for WM6 and PalmOS. Why not WP7? A couple of replies confirmed what I suspected. The OS doesn't provide the access programmers need. Everything is very hands-off. Maybe this will change in future releases. there are indications that this may be so.
Finally, some specific comments -
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Duplicate events... go to the event, scroll down, hit more details. press occurs, Choose once, everyday, every weekday, every saturday, every (Day number) of the month, ever month day (as in yearly)
For Tasks in the tile - while on agenda,
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No, I'm talking about duplicating existing appointments. Not recurring events, i.e., I had a meeting today at 2pm. We agree to meet again on Friday at 4pm. All other details the same. Previously I would quickly duplicate the event, update the date/time and I'm done. Now I must create from scratch. I right-click drag in Outlook, Google Calendar has Duplicate in More Actions - so it's not just me.
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Week view? for someone that has a lot of appointments, weekview is never readable, same with month. At least in month you can tell there is an appointment and click on it.
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My choice to decide, but at least give me the choice. In month view I want to see better indicators. Maybe the smallish Lumia 800 display is at fault, or my chosen theme, but I really have difficulty noticing the existing (pretend) indications and they give no indication of what's there (task, appointment, all-day event). There is plenty of room to show boxes and bars for an 'at a glance' overview of my time. Especially in landscape view. BTW, what happened Categories?
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For tasks tile that syncs with exchange try this one - TaskTask
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Thanks. That, and some others, look interesting. But comes back to the issue raised by others. The only way to get at the tasks data is to go direct to the server. Shouldn't have to do that. It does work though, but should be in sync with inbuilt, not duplicating functionality.
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Responding to your points ...
Firstly, forget about Exchange, etc. I'm not talking about backing up. I'm talking about the presentation and management of the data. I don't care where it's stored. Could be local, could be cloud - doesn't matter.
Secondly, when I use the term PIM, I mean it in the broadest possible way. I want to manage my personal info. Traditionally, on PDAs, that meant calendar, contacts and tasks. Smartphones have replaced PDAs, so now I want my current smartphone to do this at least as well.
Thirdly, the intent of the original post was to query why there are no 3rd-party PIM-type apps available for WP7. There are for iOS and Android, even BB. There were for WM6 and PalmOS. Why not WP7? A couple of replies confirmed what I suspected. The OS doesn't provide the access programmers need. Everything is very hands-off. Maybe this will change in future releases. there are indications that this may be so.
Finally, some specific comments -
No, I'm talking about duplicating existing appointments. Not recurring events, i.e., I had a meeting today at 2pm. We agree to meet again on Friday at 4pm. All other details the same. Previously I would quickly duplicate the event, update the date/time and I'm done. Now I must create from scratch. I right-click drag in Outlook, Google Calendar has Duplicate in More Actions - so it's not just me.
My choice to decide, but at least give me the choice. In month view I want to see better indicators. Maybe the smallish Lumia 800 display is at fault, or my chosen theme, but I really have difficulty noticing the existing (pretend) indications and they give no indication of what's there (task, appointment, all-day event). There is plenty of room to show boxes and bars for an 'at a glance' overview of my time. Especially in landscape view. BTW, what happened Categories?
Thanks. That, and some others, look interesting. But comes back to the issue raised by others. The only way to get at the tasks data is to go direct to the server. Shouldn't have to do that. It does work though, but should be in sync with inbuilt, not duplicating functionality.
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1st, not being defensive, just pointing out the way others like myself do it. What i say may or may not work for your situation but it's good to see another way to do it.
For contacts, calendar and tasks - without exchange - they are synced to the cloud hotmail. You don't need to back them up in that case. Last time i hard reset my phone, i didn't even restore via Zune. I put in my hotmail account. That brought in my local contacts and birthdays + vet appointments for my dog. i then synced facebook. That brought in all my friends. then exchange which brought my work contacts, email calendar, tasks ect. You have to get a windows live when you 1st bring up the phone. It is an automatic backup. Now what i did lose was my app list and saved games + contact history.
For apps go to https://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/my under get my apps and you will find a list of everything you purchased or got for free. you can send each app to your phone from there. So only thing is lost is contact history and saved games. Zune sync brings back pictures and music. I wanted to change what i had on my phone and didn't care to keep the exisint pics since they were on my pc anyway so i opted not to do this.
But if you want full local backup i highlighted a homebrew way to do it that doesn't require you to be unlocked.
Tasks - for your example, if you created the event, i normally would just edit it and change the date. Granted it's not copy but does the same functionality, unless you need a record of the event that passed.
I have a Titan so my display it pretty big. I probably could show a week view but on some weeks there are so many appointments that it would have to be bars. They should allow month view to zoom into calendar even if pinch to zoom to satisfy everyone.
Categories i didn't miss because i didn't use them but someone else asked me about them before purchasing a phone. That is when i noticed they were not there. Instead of categoris, i add to the subject.
example = Meeting with consumer - Billable
Instead of a billiable category which i can't do much with i add the text because outlook will allow me to search for it. at the end of the week when i bill out, i just enter in outlook's search (i do billing from pc) billable and it will show all my Billiable appointments in a list with time and date. it works way better that way for me. I haven't quite figured out what people use categories for yet though but i do know that they are not on the phone. Probably because each calendar has it's own color.
Thanks again. But, really, I have no issues with backing up, syncing, etc
Yes, I do keep old events. Which is why I can't believe you can only go back two weeks. Thank goodness for web access.
Second half of post is interesting. I may just have to change my habits. Certainly the idea of using different calendars for colour coding sounds good.
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Yes, I do keep old events. Which is why I can't believe you can only go back two weeks. Thank goodness for web access.
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Hmm i never notice that. In the hotmail calendar it goes back further. I always thought it followed the email since i have it for a month but i never look back that far.
I didn't know if you knew this but if you change IE to Desktop version in settings you can do full outlook web access with all calendars including shared. (i know this works on 2010 exchange at least). One thing the iphone can't do as you are locked to mobile version and Outlook has no link to change out of it.
Now I'm on 4.0.2 stock. But the same problem was with my new device with 4.0.1.
When I'm getting a new meeting request, I don't see it when I press Calendar in the meeting request. I don't even see in the message a date/time when the meeting will take place.
Here's a meeting request:
As you see - no date/time details. But the meeting should take place at 16:00 (I checked that in the MS Outlook).
When I press Calendar, I don't see a meeting reservation there as well:
In other words: I have no chance to know when is the meeting without accepting it. If I accept - when the meeting appears in the calendar. But I can't accept it before knowing when it will take place.
Could anybody confirm they have the same issue? Thanks!!
I use the touchdown app from nitrodesk - amazing - albeit a bit expensive - but worth every penny ! (not affiliated)
Program is great and they give you a bunch of widgets - they also do a tablet version too - which works for me.
They have a free trail - give it a go.
Stephen
Thanks for advice. But I expect stock app to work correctly.
Is there a place where I could report bugs?
Is somebody from google or android dev team reacting to bug reports?
This looks like a clear bug to me. Post it in googles issue/bug tracker site.
I registered an issue here:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=25565
Somehow I don't think somebody will read it
This question is really users who use the Android Calendar app sync'ing with Exchange calendar.
How many of you wish there is a way to reply or reply-all to the meeting attendees from the Android Calendar application? This one (lack of) really annoys me b/c if I'm running late for a meeting, there is no way for me to send reply to the organizer or other attendees I'm running late. Instead, I am forced to create a new email, type in & look up the organizer, type in a new subject line & message to notify other attendees.
Interestingly, my co-worker with a AT&T Samsung Galaxy S (not S2) recently got a gingerbread update from ATT and his updated calendar app (although appears identical to one on my T-Mo GS2) offers this feature. So, when he is in the calendar item, he selects menu... the android calendar app presents you with Reply or Reply All as options. On my phone, I get a Delete or Send Via... and those, IMO, are totally useless.
Anyone know if there is a ROM that has the ATT GS calendar app with the Reply | Reply All option that would work on the TMO GS2?
Thanks!