Ive been waiting and waiting to upgrade as ive been waiting for the GNex to hit TMo but i havent heard any news lately, am i just missing news? Did they announce anything at CES?
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Nothing...use your upgrade, sell that device on marketplace, craigslist or ebay + put additional money and get the unlocked gsm version.
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Does the unlocked version get TMo 4G?
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I'm pretty sure it does. It should be "4G" capable on both At&t and Tmobile. I can definitely say it works on At&t
Yes, we get "4G" on tmobile.
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Does the unlocked version get TMo 4G?
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Yes its HSPA+ 21mbps pentaband (working on T-mo and AT&T).
They did not announce anything. There isn't even a rumor about a T-mobile release. If you want the GN, hook it up unlocked.
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Nothing...use your upgrade, sell that device on marketplace, craigslist or ebay + put additional money and get the unlocked gsm version.
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Pretty much what he said. The only phone that T-Mobile announced was the Samsung Galaxy Blaze 4G which is definitely not the Galaxy Nexus.
Kind of disappointed in T-Mobile's lineup. We might see something at MWC but I wouldn't put my bets on it.
Is there some legal reason that t-mobile couldn't just bulk buy some off samsung and put it on their network?
Unless they're wanting their own version that is locked down - like AT&T is rumored to be doing.
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Is there some legal reason that t-mobile couldn't just bulk buy some off samsung and put it on their network?
Unless they're wanting their own version that is locked down - like AT&T is rumored to be doing.
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Where is the source that AT&T wants to "lock" down their device?
And that doesn't sound too logical to buy phones from a company and put it on their company. If T-Mobile was able to do that then they could just buy a bunch of iPhones and sell them. I'm sure the manufacturer and carrier needs to agree with the sale.
And honestly, Nexus devices are not your "everyday devices." The demand for them compared to iPhones or even Galaxy S2 devices are not as high.
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Where is the source that AT&T wants to "lock" down their device?
And that doesn't sound too logical to buy phones from a company and put it on their company. If T-Mobile was able to do that then they could just buy a bunch of iPhones and sell them. I'm sure the manufacturer and carrier needs to agree with the sale.
And honestly, Nexus devices are not your "everyday devices." The demand for them compared to iPhones or even Galaxy S2 devices are not as high.
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The AT&T thing is a rumor based on a new Nexus that went through the FCC (it was a while back) that had AT&T bands only, didn't have one of the AWS bands for TMO or something.
Also iPhone's aren't the same thing, because they're hobbled on that network, whereas a Nexus works in its full capacity. The people who use an iPhone there are masochist who love EDGE speed
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The AT&T thing is a rumor based on a new Nexus that went through the FCC (it was a while back) that had AT&T bands only, didn't have one of the AWS bands for TMO or something.
Also iPhone's aren't the same thing, because they're hobbled on that network, whereas a Nexus works in its full capacity. The people who use an iPhone there are masochist who love EDGE speed
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That's kind of silly if AT&T is trying to alter the Galaxy Nexus because the phone itself is "pentaband" wouldn't it be more expensive for AT&T to change the phone from pentaband to only their network? Weird.
iPhones are definitely hobbled but MANY MANY people still buy them off contract and unlock themselves to use it on T-Mobile's EDGE network. As much as I hate EDGE, people still do this rather than use Android devices. I honestly don't know why they would do this except to save money on their plan but it's not worth paying for a internet plan and being stuck with using EDGE.
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That's kind of silly if AT&T is trying to alter the Galaxy Nexus because the phone itself is "pentaband" wouldn't it be more expensive for AT&T to change the phone from pentaband to only their network? Weird.
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AT&T would want their own model with GSM and LTE anyways.
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Is there some legal reason that t-mobile couldn't just bulk buy some off samsung and put it on their network?
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There obviously has to be an agreement between T-Mobile and Samsung to properly set up supply chains and get everything working. T-Mobile can't just buy millions of these wholesale, put a T-Mobile logo on them and start selling them in-store. Its not that easy to launch a carrier device.
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That's kind of silly if AT&T is trying to alter the Galaxy Nexus because the phone itself is "pentaband" wouldn't it be more expensive for AT&T to change the phone from pentaband to only their network? Weird.
iPhones are definitely hobbled but MANY MANY people still buy them off contract and unlock themselves to use it on T-Mobile's EDGE network. As much as I hate EDGE, people still do this rather than use Android devices. I honestly don't know why they would do this except to save money on their plan but it's not worth paying for a internet plan and being stuck with using EDGE.
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It's not silly if you want to be a **** and jail everyone into your own Network so you make more $$, also AT&T will probably want LTE (though I don't think the FCC submission had one) on top of the HSPA radio.
Also like I said, people who switch with an iPhone KNOW what they're doing, once you open the flood gates and announce you're offering something - ton of people who don't really understand the issue will buy it and get pissed off.
Besides I doubt Apple would allow Tmo to sell it for that very reason - they don't want to be blamed for the 2G speed.
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It's not silly if you want to be a **** and jail everyone into your own Network so you make more $$.
Also like I said, people who switch with an iPhone KNOW what they're doing, once you open the flood gates and announce you're offering something - ton of people who don't really understand the issue will buy it and get pissed off.
Besides I doubt Apple would allow Tmo to sell it for that very reason - they don't want to be blamed for the 2G speed.
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Well obviously Apple wouldn't sell an EDGE only device directly through T-mo, but Apple does sell the iPhone 4 and 4S unlocked directly online. You can buy it and put a T-Mo SIM in it all you want.
People save a ton of money by going to T-Mo with their iPhone. They're willing to live with EDGE especially if they're on WiFi most of the time and don't care if they necessarily have 3G. EDGE still gets the job done unless you're doing lots of web browsing. Its not like you don't have data.
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Hm. If AT&T wants their GSM/LTE version then they might be adopting the same technology that the LG Spectrum has where it can use GSM and LTE (as announced by Verizon)
@wonshikee: Most likely. But it's all good because I don't want more consumption on the TMo network by iPhone users
@martonikaj: yeah pretty much do the SIM thing but iphone uses microSIM so thats the only thing you have to do which I believe you can just use a knife and cut it to be a microsim (or something like that)
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AT&T would want their own model with GSM and LTE anyways.
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There obviously has to be an agreement between T-Mobile and Samsung to properly set up supply chains and get everything working. T-Mobile can't just buy millions of these wholesale, put a T-Mobile logo on them and start selling them in-store. Its not that easy to launch a carrier device.
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Yeah I'm sure that's the reason, but it just begs to question, why?
I mean is there really some legal mumbo jumbo that says you can't buy the Nexus and resell it as part of your own service?
It's one thing - when the OEM has to specifically build a phone for the carrier, but another when it will work perfect fine. That's why I raise the issue.
I would assume the main reason is that, Samsung would be inclined to give a bigger discount with a formal contract agreement - which then allows Samsung to handle the supply chain aspect to provide the goods on their own terms. Plus they probably sold their soul to VZ for the current period saying we won't let any other carrier use it officially.
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Hm. If AT&T wants their GSM/LTE version then they might be adopting the same technology that the LG Spectrum has where it can use GSM and LTE (as announced by Verizon)
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No... They'll just use the technology they're already using on all other LTE phones on AT&T, like the Skyrocket, Vivid, and half a dozen other phones launched at CES. GSM/LTE chips already exist. They don't need anything new.
The Verizon phones with new chips have CDMA/LTE for Verizon US, then GSM for world roaming. That's a new feature, and does not apply to AT&T whatsoever.
@martonikaj: yeah pretty much do the SIM thing but iphone uses microSIM so thats the only thing you have to do which I believe you can just use a knife and cut it to be a microsim (or something like that)
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There are SIM cutters all over the internet. Its easy. Cutting a Mini SIM to a Micro (or putting a Micro in a Mini adapter) is the least of your problems.
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Yeah I'm sure that's the reason, but it just begs to question, why?
I mean is there really some legal mumbo jumbo that says you can't buy the Nexus and resell it as part of your own service?
It's one thing - when the OEM has to specifically build a phone for the carrier, but another when it will work perfect fine. That's why I raise the issue.
I would assume the main reason is that, Samsung would be inclined to give a bigger discount with a formal contract agreement - which then allows Samsung to handle the supply chain aspect to provide the goods on their own terms. Plus they probably sold their soul to VZ for the current period saying we won't let any other carrier use it.
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It is probably some "legal jumbo" and interests of the customer. If the device isn't officially supported by the manufacturer to sell to that carrier in bulk, then they can't fulfill the warranty as it's a "grey market."
I'm definitely not a lawyer but this would be a problem for the carrier if customers aren't able to get their warranty covered by Samsung and have to go through T-Mobile directly or something.
@martonikaj: Yeah I know it's easy to do. Was just correcting you a little bit there because a sim card isn't a microSIM.
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I mean is there really some legal mumbo jumbo that says you can't buy the Nexus and resell it as part of your own service?
It's one thing - when the OEM has to specifically build a phone for the carrier, but another when it will work perfect fine. That's why I raise the issue.
I would assume the main reason is that, Samsung would be inclined to give a bigger discount with a formal contract agreement - which then allows Samsung to handle the supply chain aspect to provide the goods on their own terms. Plus they probably sold their soul to VZ for the current period saying we won't let any other carrier use it officially.
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Verizon has an exclusive on carriers selling the Galaxy Nexus in the US.
T-Mo won't make nearly as much money if they were literally buying them and reselling. They need a contractual obligation with Samsung to produce phones and sell at a certain price.
Think about everything that goes into a phone launch. They need to educate sales and support staff, start a marketing campaign, setup their systems, start the supply chain management, etc. etc. etc.. They can't do all of this, and start selling phones then have Samsung run out or not fulfill orders because to Sammy, T-Mo is just another random buyer. T-Mo could be buying millions of phones over the life of its sale. Again, it REALLY isn't as easy as you think.
Some retailer or local shop could buy and resell, but T-Mobile USA can't do that.
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@martonikaj: Yeah I know it's easy to do. Was just correcting you a little bit there because a sim card isn't a microSIM.
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.... anyone spending $650+ on an unlocked iPhone (or ETF-ing, jailbreaking + unlocking) and moving it to T-Mobile should be smart enough to know how to cut cardboard. Like I said, Mini vs Micro SIM isn't even a problem. They are literally the exact same except the size of the cardboard around it.
Not to bump a stupidly old thread, but any news lately that I may have missed?
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LTE is defiantly Verizon. Also appears to cost $299 (w/ 2 yr. contract) on Verizon.
http://www.slashgear.com/galaxy-nexus-found-on-verizon-map-for-november-10-at-299-14188245/
Rumors have it going to AT&T & T-Mobile as well.... but those are just rumors.
LTE is technically AT&T as well, at least in some markets, but yes, I've heard the same rumors. That's what I'm trying to pin down, as Verizon's coverage in my area is spotty.
More/New Info:
http://www.gsmarena.com/galaxy_nexu...lity_surface_costs_north_of_800-news-3289.php
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More/New Info:
http://www.gsmarena.com/galaxy_nexu...lity_surface_costs_north_of_800-news-3289.php
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Lack of AT&T saddens me. Verizon has no coverage where I live.
God damn it, i don't care about verizon and their ridiculous pricing and lack of sim cards. Is this thing coming to T-Mobile?
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God damn it, i don't care about verizon and their ridiculous pricing and lack of sim cards. Is this thing coming to T-Mobile?
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I know how you feel, I feel the same way
I don't care if the f*cker costs $1000, just bring it to AT&T!!!!
Good news is..... wait for it.....
This info. seems dated, as this phone passed the FCC approval listings for AT&T and T-mobile.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/08/...s-through-the-fcc-possibly-heading-to-atandt/
So until we get an official Samsung or Google word on the actual carriers, I would just sum up everything to speculation.
The FCC testing reports and official spec sheets that have been floating around show the proper bands for both ATT and TMO. So, you can just order it where ever...
For those that are new to this line of phones, the nexus series has always ended up on all of the major carriers. Just be patient. I'm just as excited as you all are.
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I know how you feel, I feel the same way
I don't care if the f*cker costs $1000, just bring it to AT&T!!!!
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This info. seems dated, as this phone passed the FCC approval listings for AT&T and T-mobile.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/08/...s-through-the-fcc-possibly-heading-to-atandt/
So until we get an official Samsung or Google word on the actual carriers, I would just sum up everything to speculation.
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Yeah, that's just outrageous. It's typical phone pricing before the phone is actually released. When the dist settles, nothing but good news will come from it. There will be no way that this phone will be over $600. I'm thinking that $529 will be the sweet spot.
This is pentaband phone. I don't know why you need a carrier to have the SGN. I would buy it out right use it whatever carrier your on. Don't need a carrier to subsidies it even though it will be as cheaper way to go.
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This is pentaband phone. I don't know why you need a carrier to have the SGN. I would buy it out right use it whatever carrier your on. Don't need a carrier to subsidies it even though it will be as cheaper way to go.
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Ok, I;m gonna go out on my NooB limb here and just ask...
So, lets just say the Galaxy Nexus goes Verizon only in the U.S. (I don't think this will be the case, but for $hits & giggles, lets just say that's what happens)... I would assume that this Verizon version would be the LTE version of the Nexus. Ok, so since Verizon uses CMDA, I couldn't purchase one at full price from Verizon and just stick my AT&T card in it an expect it to work, could I??
So the other option (in this imaginary Verizon/U.S. only world) would be to order a over seas GSM version, use my AT&T sim card??? If so, would I need a unlock code??
Sorry for the stupid questions... just trying to get all my ducks in a row, so I know what to do when the official carrier info. is released by Samsung. This stuff just isn't my forte; usually just stick to a carrier phone, but am willing to make an exception in this case. Thanks.
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Ok, I;m gonna go out on my NooB limb here and just ask...
So, lets just say the Galaxy Nexus goes Verizon only in the U.S. (I don't think this will be the case, but for $hits & giggles, lets just say that's what happens)... I would assume that this Verizon version would be the LTE version of the Nexus. Ok, so since Verizon uses CMDA, I couldn't purchase one at full price from Verizon and just stick my AT&T card in it an expect it to work, could I??
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Not all LTE use the same frequencies just like the GSM issue with AT&T and TMobile in the US or even among some European countries where a 3g phone from one country will only have EDGE in another country even though both are GSM/UMTS. I haven't seen anything with the LTE frequencies being used, but you can easily Google to find the Verizon versus AT&T frequency problems as many have commented on it...prior to the release of this phone that is.
Now, it may be possible for Samsung to include many/all LTE frequencies in one radio. That sure would be good for the end user.
I don't care how much it would cost either, I just hope one of the models is ported to sprint
also, swiftks. Greetings from college station haha
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Ok, I;m gonna go out on my NooB limb here and just ask...
So, lets just say the Galaxy Nexus goes Verizon only in the U.S. (I don't think this will be the case, but for $hits & giggles, lets just say that's what happens)... I would assume that this Verizon version would be the LTE version of the Nexus. Ok, so since Verizon uses CMDA, I couldn't purchase one at full price from Verizon and just stick my AT&T card in it an expect it to work, could I??
So the other option (in this imaginary Verizon/U.S. only world) would be to order a over seas GSM version, use my AT&T sim card??? If so, would I need a unlock code??
Sorry for the stupid questions... just trying to get all my ducks in a row, so I know what to do when the official carrier info. is released by Samsung. This stuff just isn't my forte; usually just stick to a carrier phone, but am willing to make an exception in this case. Thanks.
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If you were to import a GSM hspa phone, no worries. All nexus phones are unlocked. You can use any GSM carrier. Previous nexus were either T-Mobile compatible or att compatible. But it seems the Galaxy Nexus is compatible with all GSM carrier.
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I don't care how much it would cost either, I just hope one of the models is ported to sprint
also, swiftks. Greetings from college station haha
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Seriously. I am contemplating switching to Verizon, but I just don't think that it is a good idea to switch carriers just for a phone. Guess I will just have to enjoy my E3D until the SGN comes to Sprint - if it does.
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Seriously. I am contemplating switching to Verizon, but I just don't think that it is a good idea to switch carriers just for a phone. Guess I will just have to enjoy my E3D until the SGN comes to Sprint - if it does.
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I'm in the same boat. My Sprint contract ended on Thur, my Evo's USB has broken off, so I'm in need of a new phone. I can move to Verizon - or perhaps stay with Sprint and grab a Galaxy S2 (and wait for ICS port).
Recommendations?
Thanks and Gig'em.
So this sucks.... I hate you Verizon.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/10/1...xus-in-the-initial-wave-other-carriers-later/
Later... How much later??? Maybe??? Jesus, might as well wait for the SGSIII if it's gonna be spring of next year or some ridiculous thing. Hopefully the Asus Transformer 2 comes out sooner, that way I can at least console myself.
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"Samsung Janel: My mistake, no U.S. carrier has been determined yet. Stay tuned for updates."
Galaxy nexus prices?
So,what are the off contract prices for the galaxy nexus( in other country's)
in The Netherlands.
it will be released in December(late in my eyes) and for advice price of 649 euros!
really expensive in my eye's.
thats:
887,57 dollar.
564,76 British pound.
so im looking into a solution to import it for a cheaper price than the dutch version.
we use GSM here and that means the HSPA+ version if im right.
Pricing list:
The Netherlands- 649 Eur-887,57 USD-564,76 GBP
belsimpel.nl- 649 Eur-887,57 USD- 564,76 GBP [32GB]
MOBICITY- 605,50 Eur-810,18 USD-520,69 GBP [Pre-ORDER]
British retailer Clove-588,38 Eur-813,61 USD-514.80 GBP [16GB]
Italy-599 Eur-828,30 USD-524,10 GBP [16GB]
T-Mobile-469,34 Eur- 649 USD-410,65 GBP[unlocked 32GB][Source unknown,not 100% accurate]
I don't think very long. A month at most....just my two cents but I'm pretty sure Google WANTS the Nexus on EVERY CARRIER....
Great....I respond to the post directly above and then you edit....
It's a tablet dammit! Not a BIG phone....
In Italy the 16 GB version is going to be released in the second half on Novembre/start of December for 599€ (825$).
But I'm going to buy the 32GB unlocked T-Mobile Galaxy Nexus (that works with European networks) for about 649$ (only 470€).
**** italian prices :-D
I had been thinking of switching to Verizon for some LTE goodness, but then T-mobile had to go ahead and create a $30 no contract unlimited data/texting 100 minute plan (I never use minutes).
I can buy the phone at $600 and save more than the Verizon subsidy in under 8 months...
Gah...so torn...
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God damn it, i don't care about verizon and their ridiculous pricing and lack of sim cards. Is this thing coming to T-Mobile?
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Actually all LTE phones require a sim card. I have the droid charge which has a sim thats needed for LTE
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New Best Buy ad confirms 2 year contract price at $299.99 and $799.99 no contract for Verizon.
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Phones are typically more expensive off contract when purchased at Best Buy.
Whew! Thank god. I used to work at best buy, i didn't realize phones were that expensive off contract. Still nice to finally hear about some pricing.
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$799.99 at BestBuy?
Means $649.99 through Verizon.
Any words on the GSM version @ Best Buy? Been searching for news on that but couldn't find anything...
Wow, I used to work for BB too but had no clue they were doing stuff like this. That's a $150 markup to buy nearly every phone off contract. I guess the Nexus S sold for under $600 there due to the deal they made with Google.
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Any words on the GSM version @ Best Buy? Been searching for news on that but couldn't find anything...
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Best Buy will only sell the US Verizon phone. All GSM/International models must be imported.
$800 unlocked is ridiculous. Ridiculous I say.
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$800 unlocked is ridiculous. Ridiculous I say.
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$800 unlocked? No, you mean $800 w/o a contract...
I'm sorry buy that price is flat out unacceptable. Looks like I'm hanging on to my nexus s for a while. I buy unsubsidized and I'm not paying 800 for a phone that's already being outspeced. Damn I'm disappointed. I love the nexus line. But I'll just wait for the next one. Hopefully it comes out with a bang like the nexus one.
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$800 unlocked? No, you mean $800 w/o a contract...
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THIS
You have to flash CDMA phones to get them to work on different CDMA networks, and then you have to call them to get it activated every single time. Some carriers even charge activation fees for this.
CDMA needs to be eliminated from phones, it's super slow and is a dead end in terms of architecture (no 4G on CDMA, LTE is GSM hence the SIM cards)
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THIS
You have to flash CDMA phones to get them to work on different CDMA networks, and then you have to call them to get it activated every single time. Some carriers even charge activation fees for this.
CDMA needs to be eliminated from phones, it's super slow and is a dead end in terms of architecture (no 4G on CDMA, LTE is GSM hence the SIM cards)
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CDMA/LTE phones do have SIM cards. But the CDMA device identifier is stored in the CSIM application on the card, which is different from the usual GSM SIM application, and we don't really know if this makes these phones any more portable across different networks. It's a moot point anyhow, there's really just Verizon and Sprint, and I doubt any Verizon subscribers are in a hurry to switch to Sprint.
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CDMA/LTE phones do have SIM cards. But the CDMA device identifier is stored in the CSIM application on the card, which is different from the usual GSM SIM application, and we don't really know if this makes these phones any more portable across different networks. It's a moot point anyhow, there's really just Verizon and Sprint, and I doubt any Verizon subscribers are in a hurry to switch to Sprint.
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I categorize a SIM card as being something that holds your data and information about your plan, like a driver's licence. It can go drive any "car" (readhone) as long as it knows the "roads" (read:bands).
...That was a weird analogy, I need to sleep before I type anymore...
Looks like FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski's request for a formal hearing on AT&T's proposed acquisition of T-Mobile may have had a bit of an effect. AT&T has announced that it and Deutsche Telekom have formally withdrawn their application related to the deal's approval that was submitted back in April. Interestingly, AT&T went on to say that because of the FCC's request for a hearing, it's added a $4 billion charge into its Q4 2011 financials to reflect the amount it would owe should the deal fail to be approved. That $4 billion breaks down into $3 billion in cash and $1 billion worth of spectrum.
All of this doesn't necessarily mean that AT&T and Deutsche Telekom are just giving up on the deal, though, as AT&T specifically says that the two companies are continuing pursuit of the sale of DT's assets. AT&T explains that it's withdrawn the FCC application in order to step back and reconsider all of its options with the government agency and will refile the application "as soon as practical." The carrier added that it plans to focus on winning the antitrust case that the U.S. Department of Justice has filed against it, either through the court case that's already pending or through alternate means.
Today's news is some of the biggest that we've seen come out of the AT&T-Mobile deal since it was announced back in March. Obviously the proposed acquisition is still very much on the table, but AT&T and Deutsche Telekom's moves give off the vibe that they're not quite as confident about the merger's approval as they may have once been. It'll be interesting to see how opponents of the acquisition react to today's news (I bet Sprint is having a happy Thanksgiving) and how the deal progresses going forward. As usual, we'll keep you up to date as the story continues to play out, so stay tuned!
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Good news, guys?
If it were over, it would be in the consumer's best interest. But they are withdrawing only their application to the FCC because the FCC has steadfastly resisted the merger (kudos to them). Now, ATT and the FCC get to fight it out in court. Hopefully the DOJ is not swayed by ATT's empty compromises. This deal would create a significant monopoly and stifle innovation while removing options the consumer has today. Remember that Deutsche Telekom is a non-US company and unlike ATT, everything it does, including its radio frequencies, is global.
Yah it's over
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Yah it's over
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Sure hope you are right -
but according to a communication analyst quoted in the New York times there is a low chance that At&T might still be able to pull it off
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/25/t...-mobile-takes-a-step-back.html?pagewanted=all
i actually welcome the idea
if ATT + Tmo merger went through, that will mean the end of the AWS phones
Tmo is the only mass network that attracts phone manufactures to make AWS 1700/2100 phones
the first thing ATT wanted to do is to take down the AWS network to use it for LTE
so hell no, i don't support that
If T-Mobile goes down all those 1700 phones will be gone. Then those of us in Canada who use Mobilicity/Wind will be stuck with crappy phones.
yup
Also, Rogers in Canada is following its Big brother ATT foot steps as well, is trying to kick out Wind, and snatch the 1700/2100 for LTE
once Wind is out of the market, Mobilicity will become easy pray to the, as Mobi doesn't have the funds to hold against fight vs RoBelus team
Wind can take the fight simply because it has multinational backing like Tmobile
So I'm a bit confused...in the quote in the op it mentions att has set aside the money for Tmobile, but does that mean they are paying out?
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AllGamer said:
i actually welcome the idea
if ATT + Tmo merger went through, that will mean the end of the AWS phones
Tmo is the only mass network that attracts phone manufactures to make AWS 1700/2100 phones
the first thing ATT wanted to do is to take down the AWS network to use it for LTE
so hell no, i don't support that
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That's a good reason for Canadians to oppose the merger, but your neighbors to the south have other good reason to oppose the merger -
higher prices for rate plans
crappier customer service
tendency to cripple their phones unnecessarily
There is some speculation that t-mobile might disappear even if this merger fails (the parent company, T-Mobile International AG, may sell t-mobile for parts) and if that happens I am moving to Sprint.
kenvan19 said:
So I'm a bit confused...in the quote in the op it mentions att has set aside the money for Tmobile, but does that mean they are paying out?
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ATT still needs to pay aprox 1 Bil even if the merger does not come through as they hoped.
that was on the original proposal, it was all over the news
so either way Tmo comes out on top either way
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That's a good reason for Canadians to oppose the merger, but your neighbors to the south have other good reason to oppose the merger -
higher prices for rate plans
crappier customer service
tendency to cripple their phones unnecessarily
There is some speculation that t-mobile might disappear even if this merger fails (the parent company, T-Mobile International AG, may sell t-mobile for parts) and if that happens I am moving to Sprint.
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we here up north have pretty much the same issues, so we would like to keep as many competitors as possible
before Windmobile and Mobilicity the prices were ridiculous over here
they are still ridiculous on Rogers (ATT), Bell, and other big guys
also the Rogers/Bell customer service it has been the worse for like 20 years straight...
if Wind and Mobi gets shuts-down in the near future, then i think i'll stop using cell phone all together, it's simply not worth it at the insane prices over here
Canada has the worse rate world wide, it's been documented in many research on the news from UK and USA
The merger is not dead but its on life support. Tmobile is looking to get out of the USA market and is willing to wait for AT&T work it through the courts or a Republican wins the presidency. DOJ and FCC are run by poltical appointees.
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Not to mention ATT has no interest in UMA.
This does not mean they are not moving forward. I believe they are going to try and get DOJ approval, then if they do, resubmit. I actually work for T-Mobile, and if it's either merge, or have DT look at other options for use, I kinda hope the merger goes through lol
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I would love to see this merger fail. If T-Mo got all the money from that breakup fee, it's just a matter of wanting to stay in the US because that would give them enough to keep going for awhile. I can already imagine having to upgrade to an AT&T phone with way higher prices and slower 3G speeds...LTE is probably comparable to T-Mo's HSPA+ 42 (Verizon's LTE is virtually identical), then there's data caps..so it would just be all around bad...
Tmo gets 4 Bil for breakup fee, that's super rich
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204449804577068562250634398.html
AT&T has acknowledged that the deal is more likely to fail than succeed and set aside $4 billion to cover the breakup fee it would owe T-Mobile USA owner Deutsche Telekom AG.
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I am glad this failed cuz now it puts tmo in the perfect position to be bought out by Google. The idea is being called the first fully integrated information company/network. Scary on one level because it lends itself ripe for corruption and sensoring but on the other hand it is Google, who has never given me reason to worry. Were it Facebook or yahoo looking to purchase tmo I would be very wary.
AllGamer said:
Tmo gets 4 Bil for breakup fee, that's super rich
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204449804577068562250634398.html
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They also suppose to get some spectrum from at&t and a roaming agreement. At&t is going through everything necessary to get the spectrum t-mobile has. Even in talks about selling off 40% of tmobile customers with leap mobile who ever they are.
I think its just a ploy to wait till after the election and then resubmit the application if a republican president gets elected (very likely). Conservatives tend to support mergers such as this as they believe in the free market determining everything, even if its not in the interest of the pubic. Allowing the merger would result in the last affordable post paid carrier being dismantled. We'll all be at the mercy of AT&T and Verizon. Sprint will probably merge too if this goes thorough, I mean why not if you allow this.
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cbinvb said:
I am glad this failed cuz now it puts tmo in the perfect position to be bought out by Google. The idea is being called the first fully integrated information company/network. Scary on one level because it lends itself ripe for corruption and sensoring but on the other hand it is Google, who has never given me reason to worry. Were it Facebook or yahoo looking to purchase tmo I would be very wary.
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I would love to see google buy tmo. we would probably stay seeing a lot more AOSP phones.
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So I'm on an att unlimited data plan and on a corporate account so I don't want to change carriers. Also I really don't want to pay $500.00 for a phone. I'm hoping after verizon's 90 days of being exclusive with the nexus other carries will being selling it, but I can't find any info about it. Has anyone heard anything.
i only heard of Sprint officially getting the Galaxy Nexus. no att or tmobile
sliment said:
So I'm on an att unlimited data plan and on a corporate account so I don't want to change carriers. Also I really don't want to pay $500.00 for a phone. I'm hoping after verizon's 90 days of being exclusive with the nexus other carries will being selling it, but I can't find any info about it. Has anyone heard anything.
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I was in your same boat. Got tired of waiting to hear if att was going to carry the gnexus so I splurged and bought one luckily my s2 and cappy provided me enough funds to cover the cost.
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Most likely it will be the same case with the Nexus One.. other carriers suppose to pick it up.. but in the end only two will and the rest will pick up something they think is better.
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Most likely it will be the same case with the Nexus One.. other carriers suppose to pick it up.. but in the end only two will and the rest will pick up something they think is better.
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Well... T-Mobile and AT&T never officially sold the N1 in their stores.
OP, Don't count on it.... just buy it unlocked. you're gonna be waiting so long to have the possibility of it being sold here that it'll be old news by the time it does. There hasn't even been a plausible rumor of it coming to T-Mobile or AT&T in the US since it was launched. Its been months.
I agree with these posts. AT&T never themselves sold the Nexus One or the Nexus S, so it seems highly unlikely that they will a subsidized Galaxy Nexus.
Unlikely that we will see AT&T officially carrying the Galaxy Nexus, you're better off getting a Galaxy S2, selling it and then adding a bit of cash on top to get an unlock GNex. It really is a great phone.
You cant get a carrier any less "Android friendly" than Att.
note
They do have the galaxy note... I'm on verizon with the gnex and if the note came to verizon I would have seriously considered it...
So many people have AT&T but I never hear anything good about them. I only hear bad things about their call quality, dropped calls and crappy unstable data. So why do people actually stay with them? Just because it is GSM. If you live in the US and don't travel out of country often, what would any other advantage be to stick with a crappy provider?
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So many people have AT&T but I never hear anything good about them. I only hear bad things about their call quality, dropped calls and crappy unstable data. So why do people actually stay with them? Just because it is GSM. If you live in the US and don't travel out of country often, what would any other advantage be to stick with a crappy provider?
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Agreed, but like the sliment mentioned. He's on an unlimited plan which no longer exists on many carriers. I suspect a lot of folks are "stuck" with att because they don't want to lose their unlimited plan. I'm sure if Verizon still had an unlimited plan that many unlimited att users would jump ship.
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So many people have AT&T but I never hear anything good about them. I only hear bad things about their call quality, dropped calls and crappy unstable data. So why do people actually stay with them? Just because it is GSM. If you live in the US and don't travel out of country often, what would any other advantage be to stick with a crappy provider?
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You only hear bad things cause people only complain when they have problems. When things are good then people just go on with life like nothing is wrong.
Ive had att for 7 years and have great service in cali, new jersey, pennsylvania.
RogerPodacter said:
You only hear bad things cause people only complain when they have problems. When things are good then people just go on with life like nothing is wrong.
Ive had att for 7 years and have great service in cali, new jersey, pennsylvania.
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Precisely this. The ones w/ bad experiences will be those who spout off on XDA.
AT&T doesn't universally suck across the country, its extremely region dependent. People just have problem with some of their practices and plans, which makes people say they hate AT&T.
What I did is, I bought the samsung galaxy note from amazon for only $250 instead of $300 from ATT without tax. I resold the phone and bought the galaxy nexus from negri.
GL man, i'm growing to like my galaxy nexus more and more, making me not regret keeping the note even though it has LTE and 8 mp pixel. :>
martonikaj said:
Precisely this. The ones w/ bad experiences will be those who spout off on XDA.
AT&T doesn't universally suck across the country, its extremely region dependent. People just have problem with some of their practices and plans, which makes people say they hate AT&T.
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The technical terms for this only-hear-complaints thing is called "silence on success". Yeah, ATT works fine in most areas.
RogerPodacter said:
You only hear bad things cause people only complain when they have problems. When things are good then people just go on with life like nothing is wrong.
Ive had att for 7 years and have great service in cali, new jersey, pennsylvania.
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I agree completely. I have had AT&T for almost 2 years now and my experience with them has been a 100% better than T-Mobile and Verizon.
With that said my gnexus comes today!!!!
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Like any carrier, AT&T is great in some areas of the country and bad in others. In my hometown in Western Massachusetts, AT&T is a god compared to Verizon. However, down in NJ where I am currently living, it is the opposite.
As for AT&T getting the Galaxy Nexus I doubt it. By the time they get things figured out, a new phone with ICS, that has better specs would have come out. Plus, AT&T has the Galaxy Note, which I know they have been pushing pretty heavily in new england due to the number of commercials I have seen about it.
The concept of Nexus (untainted, easily-hacked Android devices) is a foreign one to AT&T. If your heart is set on a Nexus, you'll have to buy it outright. Otherwise, as others have mentioned, the Note looks like a hell of a device.
Hey everybody my Verizon contract is up this year and I was wondering what other people's experience is with other carriers. I love having a nexus but I doubt VZW ever gets another one. Also, I'm grandfathered into unlimited data so I'd never be able to upgrade without paying full price.
To sum it up, what are people's experience with GSM carriers that have unlimited data? Do you think Verizon ever gets another Nexus?
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only GSM carrier with unlimited data is T-Mobile, they offer unlimited and "limited" plans.
do i think verizon will get another one? i dont know, just wait and find out. next nexus devices will be announced soon.
regardless i wouldnt want a vzw nexus device as it isnt a true nexus device in terms of ota. if you dont get otas then vzw nexus is alright. (vzw still has to approve of the update before it gets OTA'd to VZW Nexus devices)
Google is probably pissed off at Verizon by now.
Verizon: So, where's my new Nexus?
Google: Screw you. Talk to the hand, b****h.
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Google is probably pissed off at Verizon by now.
Verizon: So, where's my new Nexus?
Google: Screw you. Talk to the hand, b****h.
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If there isn't another Nexus on Verizon it'll be because that's the way Verizon wants it, not the other way around.
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Kazba1626 said:
I love having a nexus but I doubt VZW ever gets another one.
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Unless you are a decision maker at Verizon or Google, it really makes no sense to speculate about future smartphone offerings. Do tech sites paint a negative picture for the future? Always, but that shouldn't matter if you are happy with everything in the present. There is no definitive details on the nexus line so wait and see is your best option.
Remember, when the galaxy nexus came out, it was announced that it would be exclusive to Verizon, and that turned out to be wrong in the end.
I left Verizon after being with them for about 10 years, for the Google Play GSM Nexus. I am using it on Straight Talk Sim (Att). I get updates, have no contract, have a lot of data, unlimited calls and text...and I am only paying $45 per month. Couldn't be happier. Verizon sux big time, I am so glad I don't have to deal with their BS anymore.
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Unless you are a decision maker at Verizon or Google, it really makes no sense to speculate about future smartphone offerings. Do tech sites paint a negative picture for the future? Always, but that shouldn't matter if you are happy with everything in the present. There is no definitive details on the nexus line so wait and see is your best option.
Remember, when the galaxy nexus came out, it was announced that it would be exclusive to Verizon, and that turned out to be wrong in the end.
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Pretty sure that this exclusivity was within the U.S. only as internationally phones were distributed.
I guess the contract ended and expanded to Sprint and ultimately their Play Store devices section.
I agree with you that exclusivity was stupid on both Google and Verizon's part. Never a fan on why two companies would even bother doing phone exclusivities.
stelv said:
I left Verizon after being with them for about 10 years, for the Google Play GSM Nexus. I am using it on Straight Talk Sim (Att). I get updates, have no contract, have a lot of data, unlimited calls and text...and I am only paying $45 per month. Couldn't be happier. Verizon sux big time, I am so glad I don't have to deal with their BS anymore.
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That's an awesome deal. Gonna have to look into that in the future, if that will indeed exist in the future.
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phaze one said:
That's an awesome deal. Gonna have to look into that in the future, if that will indeed exist in the future.
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I am pretty sure it will. Works on either Att or Tmobile networks. Straight Talk is one of the bigger no contract carriers. Here is a link to Straight Talk Sim
Here is a link from my sig on prepaid sim carriers, there are a good amount of them now.
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I am pretty sure it will. Works on either Att or Tmobile networks. Straight Talk is one of the bigger no contract carriers. Here is a link to Straight Talk Sim
Here is a link from my sig on prepaid sim carriers, there are a good amount of them now.
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Yup works on both AT&T and T-Mobile. HSPA+ (4G) compatible.
Line it up with a 2000 mAh extended battery (~$35) from shimshop on eBay. Comes with a extended battery cover that makes the phone feel much much much better in the hand.
Version will most likely be then first CDMA carrier to receive the nexus. Especially with the Optimus G launching on Sprint. I doubt ATT or T-Mobile will offer it subsidized on contract. That's leave Verizon or Unlocked versions
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Run away and don't look back!
I switched from Verizon to T-Mobile to get the Sensation and then finally the Galaxy Nexus. I'm happy and I have no regrets leaving Verizon.
Main points are: having an unlocked phone with no contract gives me peace of mind. I hear people talk about their "contracts" all the time.. not having to worry about this is great. Verizon has good service, but T-Mobile's is no slouch for me. My service has been great.. and better in some areas where Verizon didn't work. And it's cheaper. Finally, my phone is cutting edge tech.. even after being a year old. I have the latest software and every feature I could ask for. It's also nice being able to go to another country, pop in a SIM and go on your way (if needed).
When I heard Verizon got the Nexus first after I left, initially I was upset.. but then I found out Verizon was still Verizon and they screwed the whole Nexus experience up the only way they know how. I'll never go back to that mess.
I switched to ATT and back to VZW, the service here in my area is just way better on verizon. On top of the service being better, 4G here is widespread and very fast, not even available with ATT.
I too left Verizon for Straight Talk. LTE is fast and sweet, but hspa+ is good enough for me. If I have to download something large I do it at home on wifi. I had the t-mobile $30 prepaid plan and their hspa+ speeds are amazing, but their coverage is very spotty where I live. I love not having a contract and also am paying less than half of what I paid Verizon.
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