Windows Phone 8 concept - Windows Phone 7 General

I saw this on YouTube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZlMT3Z5v_s

Looks just like wp now, but more icons.... oops "tiles", more "tiles".
The concpet of keeping the ui devoid of a "sea of icons" can get misconstrued very quickly.
I'm waiting for the one big tile version that just says "START"

Seems pretty close to Windows 8 and a decent way to represent application grouping/folders

This would address several of the usability issues I have today with WP7. And it could easily be implemented in such a way that people who only want to see the current start screen only see that screen. Bring it on, I say.

wayy too complicated. why not 2 screens and then put the categories on the app list page.

Settings should not get it's own page, there's many more important things that could've gone there. Aside from that, it's enjoyable.

z33dev33l said:
Settings should not get it's own page, there's many more important things that could've gone there. Aside from that, it's enjoyable.
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I agree. But don't worry as this was just a 'concept' phone. I'm sure with wp8, they will better the UI.

Looks nice but tiles looks boring after three or four days

Ok, so where's the list of all my apps in one screen?
There needs to be a different way of presenting the long list of apps you don't use on a regular basis. I don't want a huge tile for every app I use - only for my important ones that I use in and out everyday.
Using that interface would get frustrating very quickly - I'd be searching all over the place trying to find apps I don't use as often.

The idea isn't that all these groups exist. It was more to show that instead of creating folders as a tile, you can create groupings like in Windows 8. So you don't need to have a settings group if you don't organizer your life that way.
Personally I would rather have a gaming group that I can swipe too, instead of having to click the xBox Live tile all the time.
If I feel motivated I will continue fleshing out this idea, but love the fact that it has spurred some discussion.
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tjramage said:
Ok, so where's the list of all my apps in one screen?
There needs to be a different way of presenting the long list of apps you don't use on a regular basis. I don't want a huge tile for every app I use - only for my important ones that I use in and out everyday.
Using that interface would get frustrating very quickly - I'd be searching all over the place trying to find apps I don't use as often.
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I just never got around to showing that. The concept was really just done to see how that kind of multi-page design would flow. I figured the long list of apps could still be there but I didn't think about how you could get to it.

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Confusing comment from iPhone user on available data on home screen

My friend is an avid iPhone user and doesn't even bother looking at other devices really, but took a look at my omnia 7 and stated that while the interface looks far better, the home screen contains LESS information than the static icons with numbers next to them...
How do other users feel, do the vast amount of icons with numbered notifications, i.e. 20 icons on page 1, feel like more useful data than having about 6 tiles which can potentially hold more data overall and have the data be dynamic, more than just that there is a change in the app.
So simply, large amounts of static data or smaller amounts of dynamic data?
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My friend is an avid iPhone user and doesn't even bother looking at other devices really, but took a look at my omnia 7 and stated that while the interface looks far better, the home screen contains LESS information than the static icons with numbers next to them...
How do other users feel, do the vast amount of icons with numbered notifications, i.e. 20 icons on page 1, feel like more useful data than having about 6 tiles which can potentially hold more data overall and have the data be dynamic, more than just that there is a change in the app.
So simply, large amounts of static data or smaller amounts of dynamic data?
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you open up a can of worms
it's personal taste I believe. I personally prefer the tile UI. I have relatives who currently own an iPhone and are very impressed with the WP7. The OS is only a year old and can only grow in user experience and performance. iOS seems to be an outdated OS IMHO. Very often it's what you got used to that works best for you and it's difficult to change to something new. iOS dominated the smartphone market for a long time. Give it 2-3 years and WP7 or WP8 will look outdated....
A poll in a Forum topic dedicated to WP7 that asks which UI is preferred will not provide any insight because most of us here decided to use WP7 for the very reason.
derausgewanderte said:
you open up a can of worms
it's personal taste I believe. I personally prefer the tile UI. I have relatives who currently own an iPhone and are very impressed with the WP7. The OS is only a year old and can only grow in user experience and performance. iOS seems to be an outdated OS IMHO. Very often it's what you got used to that works best for you and it's difficult to change to something new. iOS dominated the smartphone market for a long time. Give it 2-3 years and WP7 or WP8 will look outdated....
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I like both, though, if the double sided tiles are used properly, tiles will win in my eyes. Having only a number as a notification got bland quickly to me, I liked that I knew exactly what had updates, but to do anything, I had to open an app. Tiles allow for you to see something, see if you want to reply now, or just leave it.
Smaller tiles woildn't work though, tiles will always have less items on the main display than icons.
I guess that it depends on how quickly you want to access your apps! I mean there are only about 5 notifications I can think of that are important tbh. App updates(that can rather be on the lower segment, news possibly weather possibly, messages, IM app email phone.
I was attracted to wp7 because of c#, and the panoramic UI, the tiles were a non-sequitor. At least it was fast, unlike the home screen of the 5800 I usd, which gives me nightmares still!
Michael_W_L said:
My friend is an avid iPhone user and doesn't even bother looking at other devices really, but took a look at my omnia 7 and stated that while the interface looks far better, the home screen contains LESS information than the static icons with numbers next to them...
How do other users feel, do the vast amount of icons with numbered notifications, i.e. 20 icons on page 1, feel like more useful data than having about 6 tiles which can potentially hold more data overall and have the data be dynamic, more than just that there is a change in the app.
So simply, large amounts of static data or smaller amounts of dynamic data?
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The iPhone home screen isn't static icons. When you get notifications in, there's a ticker by the application icon similar to the stars that appear by icons on a Blackberry. Android skins like TouchWiz 4.0 and Sense 3.0/3.5 use similar tickers.
It really depends on how you look at it, TBQH.
Tiles are big so you cannot see as many application icons/tiles on one screen in WP7 as you can icon on an iPhones, so if they have all their most-used applications on their home pane, they may very well see more information on their home screen than you do.
*Most* WP7 "Live Tiles" are nothing more than a number that appears on the icon.
iOS5 will have a completely revamped Notification System, though, so things get interesting when you look forward. Heres to hoping Microsoft gives us a useful notification system cause Tile Counters/Live Tiles and Toasts aren't nearly enough. Apple seems to have found that out, so hopefully Microsoft will - eventually.
Not voting in the poll cause the options are ignorant.
N8ter said:
The iPhone home screen isn't static icons. When you get notifications in, there's a ticker by the application icon similar to the stars that appear by icons on a Blackberry. Android skins like TouchWiz 4.0 and Sense 3.0/3.5 use similar tickers.
It really depends on how you look at it, TBQH.
Tiles are big so you cannot see as many application icons/tiles on one screen in WP7 as you can icon on an iPhones, so if they have all their most-used applications on their home pane, they may very well see more information on their home screen than you do.
*Most* WP7 "Live Tiles" are nothing more than a number that appears on the icon.
iOS5 will have a completely revamped Notification System, though, so things get interesting when you look forward. Heres to hoping Microsoft gives us a useful notification system cause Tile Counters/Live Tiles and Toasts aren't nearly enough. Apple seems to have found that out, so hopefully Microsoft will - eventually.
Not voting in the poll cause the options are ignorant.
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I see icons with tickers as static data. I see tiles with just numbers in the same way. Sadly alot of tiles are just oversized icons with tickers. Double sided tiles should make for more active tiles, but I completely agree that most are just basically icons with tickers.
The poll isn't wp7 vs iPhone, the poll is static data vs dynamic. The static data type gives consistent data which can be viewed in only one way. This is a nice general type, combine that with the ios notification system, or bada's current one and you have glanceble data with the possibility of seeign it all quickly.
Dynamic data on the otherhand would be like pinning a person and seeing their latest updates OR their latest pictures. Multiple possible data types which contain more information immediately. But it uses far more real estate as well.
Next version of apple's os will steal android's notification system so its a moot point imo. Tiles are cute, but as the cornerstone of the wp7 notification system its pretty terrible. I'm still in awe that they did nothing to improve notifications in mangos. I just cannot believe it.
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Its personal taste (as someone else said). For me the best notifiactions system came with WebOS, I also like the android system and the WP7 system. I don't like the current ios notifications (on my ipad) but I guess when ios 5 comes (with android style notifications) that will be OK too. For me, the main plus point of WP7 over the other UI's is the simple uncluttered view. I am forever "losing my place" on my ipad screens, it was the same with my Android Desire too.
How can you lose your place when you have dots that tell you what pane you're on?
N8ter said:
How can you lose your place when you have dots that tell you what pane you're on?
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Could never remember which pane I had pinned an app on, my eyesight is not brilliant and the small app icons (even on the ipad) are difficult for me to pick out sometimes - like I said though, it is a personal thing.
One thing remind me.
Windows Phone 7 + Apple's Store apps = WIN.
Apps is one of the main reason people choose iPhone.
Strike_Eagle said:
Apps is one of the main reason people choose iPhone.
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And, unfortunately, one thing that is starting to come out more and more in customer surveys is that most people who own iPhones are reluctant to switch to another platform because of their investment in their apps. Not only have they paid for them, they spent the time to learn how to use them (and let's face it, most apps behave differently on WP7 than they do on iOS, because of the differences in the OS itself).
Yep and developers give ios versions preferential treatment on top of that. Faster feature updates, bug fixes, etc.
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EDIT: And this is a big issue since developers do not allow you to transfer licenses you've already bought on one platform to another. With some apps costing $9.99 or more in some cases (really once you get to $4.99 people start feeling locked in if they have to repurchase), this becomes an issue quite quickly.
Bought 10 apps over the span of 2 years on another platform that you use a lot. When you move to another one, you have to repurchase them immediately. You don't get 2 more years to do it, unless you want to cripple your usage patterns for inordinate amounts of time. That can be anywhere from 10 to 100 bucks, more in some cases, right off the bat.
One thing that isn't true with mango anymore, and I love it, is the one to one mapping from app to tile/icon.
Now I only map the content that I care about from apps to my main screen. Even multiple things from one App. Instead of having just huge app Icons.
So for the first time, Tiles start to be really different to being just big App-Icons. They start to be Content-Tiles. It's a huge difference, and something the iPhone right now does not provide.
RoboDad said:
And, unfortunately, one thing that is starting to come out more and more in customer surveys is that most people who own iPhones are reluctant to switch to another platform because of their investment in their apps. Not only have they paid for them, they spent the time to learn how to use them (and let's face it, most apps behave differently on WP7 than they do on iOS, because of the differences in the OS itself).
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Yeah, i still remember the version of Angry Bird on Android and iOS are free. and we have to pay for it.
N8ter said:
Bought 10 apps over the span of 2 years on another platform that you use a lot. When you move to another one, you have to repurchase them immediately. You don't get 2 more years to do it, unless you want to cripple your usage patterns for inordinate amounts of time. That can be anywhere from 10 to 100 bucks, more in some cases, right off the bat.
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It's unbelievable how cheap people can get to see this as a problem.
vangrieg said:
It's unbelievable how cheap people can get to see this as a problem.
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Most people (as in, the overwhelmingly vast majority) don't have unlimited disposable income. They get their phones on contract, so they can get heavily subsidized prices. Further, most people aren't thrilled at the prospect of paying a second fee for their apps, just to move from one phone platform to another. Purchasing a second license to add a second device would be a different matter, but that is not what we are discussing here. It would be paying an additional fee simply to maintain what they already have. When faced with that choice, most people will stay where they are. It is basic human nature.
So if purchased apps keep someone glued to a platform Microsoft must be betting on getting the lion's share of users coming from a 'non' smartphone; like me.
Unlimited income? We're talking $10-100 here, and since you mention subsidized handsets, "first world" countries. I understand that people don't like paying (twice) but this isn't money we're talking about, it's pocket change.
What a world.
That's the thing, iOS notification on the home screen isn't changing. It will still be static little bubbles. Live tiles could change how they work, what they do and show, they already are animated and double sided and get push notification. And I have mango and some changes on how they work is great to see.
I have my tiles set up like this: phone and alarm tiles on top, messaging and people hub, my personal linked email accounts and then my work, xbox hub with 7 more tiles of the games I am playing, Zune and resco radio, calendar, ie9 and maps, arkwords, weather apps with live tile, and so on. 40 tiles in total, and all of the info I need on one screen that scrolls smoothly. I love it ^_^
All I have to say is that I have purchased Fruit Ninja on ios,iPad ios,windows phone,android,android tablet tegra version. People need to stop being cheap. Plus it's not like if you don't use it, you lose it lol

official suggestions for WP7 improvements!!

Hi,
I've only just found the official feature suggestion website, it amazes me that so few people have been shouting for the same three things I want to see:
As it's a bit of a search/tag based site, I'm going to link to the three features I thinking EVERYONE should jump on and vote for, and hopefully they'll get some weight behind them:
1. Allow Zune to Analyse WP7 "Space reserved by other devices"
2. Drag and Drop files
3. Device backup
the last one's already got big support, so please spare 3 votes for each of the first two, and ask your friends to do likewise if they agree...
I've linked to these 3, as hopefully this might avoid repeated feature requests for the same thing, and all votes can be concentrated in one place. As people vote, these suggestions will rise to the top of "most recently voted on", and consequently snowball and gather more votes.
The homepage for the feature request forum is here, should you want to request anything else:
Feature requests
If this was a sticky, I might have known about this earlier
I've never experienced that first one; what's the issue?
Device backup would be great. But I think I'd rather see some type of notification center; if you miss a third party app toast notification there's no easy way of knowing which app it was. Also, skype integration would be nice, assuming they integrate skype messaging as a bbm alternative.
Are you kidding, OP?
I've never heard of this "space reserved" issue. I've got a couple movies, tons of songs, tons of videos, tons of apps, and still have 5gb free.
This obsession with drag and drop is reaching critical mass of annoyance. I mean, how hard is it to open up the Zune software?
And device backup? Is that a joke? You can do that any time you want. In the Zune software.
My goodness man. If you're gonna troll this forum please bring your A game.
I actually think it's a good idea to link to that list and make people aware of this.
sure haven't. He sure hasn't acted like a troll. I do not understand why you have to attack him for something he'd like to share. Ok, if you don't like it, but don't make it personal. The "joke" is shared by at least over 1000 other people on the feedback page btw (>4000 votes). If you want to take this to the next level why don't you convince those that it's a joke?
Can you please tell me how you backup everything on your device (apps, app settings, os and media) via the Zune Client?
Not knowing or trying to understand what somebody is saying and then acting like that person is a fool - that is trolling to me.
keep it civil
Troll? Maybe google a bit first, follow the links, or at least research before you throw that out there
Point 1.: If you've not come across the "reserved space" issue then, then I doubt you've ever hooked your WP7 up to several PCs, as it will happen sooner or later if you do.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1104921
The above is my first post on the issue. I had no idea how bad it was going to get from there. In trying to fix the issue by changing sync setting on the 2 PCs I'd used, nearly all of my device is now taken up with "reserved Space".
There are LOTS of posts all over the internet with users having the same issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=904321
http://blog.spencen.com/2011/04/05/windows-phone-lsquoreserved-spacersquo.aspx
http://forums.wpcentral.com/windows-phone-7-os-discussion/178895.htm
http://makingwindowseasy.com/2010/03/02/zune-reserved-space/
there are many more, including a massive page on Zuneinsider trying to decipher it:
http://zuneinsider.com/?s=reserved+space
Basically, my WP7 now shows currently as having 200 MB free, with virtually the whole phone taken up by reserve space.
If I "delete all content" from both PCs I've used, this leaves me with between 6GB and 7GB still used in reserved space, and I've certainly not used that with Apps and email (and i don't use GMaps). For a day after Mango update I actually had 13GB reserved space, not bad for a phone with only 8GB
Currently, the only way to sort this is a factory reset. But because the Windows Phone website doesn't work for me, I can't even check to see which Apps are in my history and whether I'd have to manually reinstall them all along with resetting everything else.
So.. brings us to Point 2. Drag and Drop. I hate Zune. I do not want it to sync anything for me automatically anymore. I also want to drag media from a PC without Zune installed, or running Linux, or a Mac. Not too much to ask.
Point 3. Well, point 1 wouldn't be such a major issue if Point 3 existed. If WP6.5 can have a simple backup (even if 3rd party), then why can't Wp7? And choose which to backup from contacts, email, and apps at will.
A simple image backup is going to backup the same issue I'm trying to get rid of.
Hope I'm not trolling too hard here...
i like to have a livetile with a clock like the htc sense
Livetile with a clock
@boma23
Good luck, just remember on this forum talking about WP7 problems = troll
Drag & Drop would be great, this automatic sync drives me nuts too.
It was getting dark in the cave, so I came back to add this one:
Make Windows Phone a 1st class citizen in Windows
Rather ambiguously titled, but this one combines a few of my suggestions, and also already has quite a lot of support and is appearing on the front page of the forum anyway. Please add 3 votes
I think I have a few
* Add Support For Gtalk, mxit, and Nimbuz in the messaging hub. Believe it or not, but these are leading chat networks in both India and Africa by both Businesses and individuals.
* Add Support for Other Bluetooth devices. I want to be able to receive VCard Contacts from other phones as well as send them. If my PC can connect to other phones then why not my WP7??? Its anoying!!!
* Add Dedicated storage area to be used as FLASH Storage, so i can transfer files between PCs that do not have Zune
* Lastly Can someone do some thing about this interface??? the start menu idea is good and by all means should be carried forward. But I want to be able to customize it more say may be have 5 columns of icons. The menu should have a back ground etc. The back ground could be my wall paper, so i don't have to lock my phone to see how cool my wall paper looks.
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Troll? Maybe google a bit first, follow the links, or at least research before you throw that out there
Point 1.: If you've not come across the "reserved space" issue then, then I doubt you've ever hooked your WP7 up to several PCs, as it will happen sooner or later if you do.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1104921
The above is my first post on the issue. I had no idea how bad it was going to get from there. In trying to fix the issue by changing sync setting on the 2 PCs I'd used, nearly all of my device is now taken up with "reserved Space".
There are LOTS of posts all over the internet with users having the same issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=904321
http://blog.spencen.com/2011/04/05/windows-phone-lsquoreserved-spacersquo.aspx
http://forums.wpcentral.com/windows-phone-7-os-discussion/178895.htm
http://makingwindowseasy.com/2010/03/02/zune-reserved-space/
there are many more, including a massive page on Zuneinsider trying to decipher it:
http://zuneinsider.com/?s=reserved+space
Basically, my WP7 now shows currently as having 200 MB free, with virtually the whole phone taken up by reserve space.
If I "delete all content" from both PCs I've used, this leaves me with between 6GB and 7GB still used in reserved space, and I've certainly not used that with Apps and email (and i don't use GMaps). For a day after Mango update I actually had 13GB reserved space, not bad for a phone with only 8GB
Currently, the only way to sort this is a factory reset. But because the Windows Phone website doesn't work for me, I can't even check to see which Apps are in my history and whether I'd have to manually reinstall them all along with resetting everything else.
So.. brings us to Point 2. Drag and Drop. I hate Zune. I do not want it to sync anything for me automatically anymore. I also want to drag media from a PC without Zune installed, or running Linux, or a Mac. Not too much to ask.
Point 3. Well, point 1 wouldn't be such a major issue if Point 3 existed. If WP6.5 can have a simple backup (even if 3rd party), then why can't Wp7? And choose which to backup from contacts, email, and apps at will.
A simple image backup is going to backup the same issue I'm trying to get rid of.
Hope I'm not trolling too hard here...
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boma23, you should kno better than to plug your device into multiple PCs, let alone sync with them. The WP7 is designed to be a hand held version of your PC, and since every PC is different (System Locale, Time Zone, Registry, Zune Settings, etc) there is bound to be a problem. Though luck for you will have to reset your device. So never do it again there after.
File Backup and Drag-n-Drop would be cool indeed
I expected smart /T9 dialer to be a popular request, but it has less than 100 votes (across different requests). I guess an app can fix this, but when WM had it as an OS feature, I don't understand why WP team thought it was unnecessary.
USB outlook sync, without cloud/exchange etc, is my biggest wish. seems there is some interest for that feature.
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boma23, you should kno better than to plug your device into multiple PCs, let alone sync with them. The WP7 is designed to be a hand held version of your PC, and since every PC is different (System Locale, Time Zone, Registry, Zune Settings, etc) there is bound to be a problem. Though luck for you will have to reset your device. So never do it again there after.
File Backup and Drag-n-Drop would be cool indeed
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That is utter crap! Why should he know better? What about people with multiple PC's? Say a desktop, laptop and possibly a work laptop too. Why should we only be able to use our phone with one PC? I plug my htc 7 pro into both my PC and laptop but luckily I havn't came across this problem yet. But I have seen many posts about it and Microsoft need to fix the issue.
A way to copy music, pics and video to the device without Zune would be great. Some of my music is hard to find in Zune. But it would be much better to allow WMP to sync with the device. Then I could just drag a music folder over to it and sync that way. Exactly the same way as I used to with Windows Mobile.
Apart from the lack of bluetooth file transfer, and even thats not a biggy for me. I very pleased with WP7.5 even more so now my 7 Pro has wi-fi tethering
A battery percentage tile would be awesome imo
scoobysnacks said:
A battery percentage tile would be awesome imo
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Check this out if you like the idea of a battery tile:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1328730
Multiple text message selection like you can with the email. Landscape support for homescreen and throughout OS. Led notification a standard on all devices. Forward button in browser, better yet a better laid out browser. One button access to dialer keypad instead of two. Should be able to access a mini menu when u press the drop down notification for the sig al bar WiFi and battery to have quick access to toggle or more info. That's just a few. I know it's more but that's off the dome
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I'm guessing the "know better than syncing across multiple devices" thing was sarcasm
I've just thought of another - we need the keybpard API releasing so we can use SWYPE again in WM... I think I miss that app more than anything else since 7 came out

Like/Dislike from WP 7.5 in terms of laggyness and requiring more finger tapping...

Dislike:
1. People Hub
1. Pinning recent contacts
In the nodo build, it used to show individual contacts being animated then goes to homescreen but now only the whole screen is being animated then goes to homescreen.​
2. Going back to start screen from People Hub
In the nodo build, it used to show individual texts or contents being animated from the bottom to top as it goes to homescreen. Not the case in the new updated version.​
2. IE browser
1. More finger tappings
Can't directly access add favorites, favorites, and tabs in the new update. Sometimes i hit other functions and it frustrates me. I wish they could somehow still let us to have address bar and shortcuts to favs and tabs on the bottom by... maybe swipping the address bar sideways to access to the tabs and favs shortcut?​
2. Going to the fullscreen
In nodo build, you could go to fullscreen in landscape mode with no address bar. In the new update, the address bar is now on the bottom, wish there was an option to hide it automatically​
3. Animation when going to landscape mode
Not as slick as nodo build​
4. Pinch and Zooming
It is nanoseconds unresponsive when compared the Nodo build​
3. Zune
1. Accidental taps
Sometimes i accidently tap play smart dj mix when i was going for add to now playing​
4. Xbox Live
1. Although this is con and pros at the same time, when i scroll through, it lags when my avatar shows up. Could this be the sign of having an outdated cpu/gpu snapdragon 1st gen or Microsoft were too lazy to optimize the hub?​
Like:
1: Camera
No more laggyness when going from camera mode to the picture i just took!​
2. People/Picture hub
1. More individual layers are being animated when opening these hubs! It looks sick!​
2. Picture hub from the start screen now shows your pictures and they are alive! Though it just shows static picture from the start screen if you manually set the picture as a background in the Picture hub =[​
3. Live Tiles
1. Live tiles for contacts and me hub flip instantly when there there are new updates! No more waitings for them to flip!​
2. Lives tiles no longer disappear when i try to unpin my fav apps in start screen. This is great if you want to unpin multiples apps!​
So what do i think of the new update? I love it! I still don't get why the animation lags when i go into the landscape mode in Bing? If Microsoft could fix those laggs from Bing and Xbox Live, and let us have the address bar and favs & tabs shortcuts on the bottom in the browser, i would be happier!
Feel free to leave comments if i am misinformed or whatever!
I'm actually ok with the Mango update. I never experienced Nodo, I had a HD7 when WP7 first came out, and I just picked up one off of CL for $80usd. It was a virgin HD7, no updates or anything. So I see why the guy hated it.
One thing I just hate, damn near everything is locked into Portrait mode!
On the HD7, with its LED, why must I constantly check the phone to see if I have a notification.
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I'm actually ok with the Mango update. I never experienced Nodo, I had a HD7 when WP7 first came out, and I just picked up one off of CL for $80usd. It was a virgin HD7, no updates or anything. So I see why the guy hated it.
One thing I just hate, damn near everything is locked into Portrait mode!
On the HD7, with its LED, why must I constantly check the phone to see if I have a notification.
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Where would you want to go into landscape mode? From what i know, only Me hub and camera app has been updated to support landscape. I think the Settings might have been updated for landscape but haven't used nodo forever so i forget!
vetvito said:
I'm actually ok with the Mango update. I never experienced Nodo, I had a HD7 when WP7 first came out, and I just picked up one off of CL for $80usd. It was a virgin HD7, no updates or anything. So I see why the guy hated it.
One thing I just hate, damn near everything is locked into Portrait mode!
On the HD7, with its LED, why must I constantly check the phone to see if I have a notification.
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This is the one thing that bothers me about the OS, and I think you'll agree I'm a dedicated supporter in Microsoft, Metro, Windows Phone, and W8... But I think they need to include an LED notification system. Does every phone have an LED? Because I'm starting to wonder if the OEMs are the ones responsible for including this and just haven't.
WP needs to have a one button tap to reach the keypad phone dialer instead of two taps. When you hit the phone tile it should bring up the dialer instead of the recent call history
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Where would you want to go into landscape mode? From what i know, only Me hub and camera app has been updated to support landscape. I think the Settings might have been updated for landscape but haven't used nodo forever so i forget!
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I would like landscape mode in apps. None of the apps i have go into landscape mode.
Oh, the Avatar lag, its updating when you first swipe over, that's why it lags.
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WP needs to have a one button tap to reach the keypad phone dialer instead of two taps. When you hit the phone tile it should bring up the dialer instead of the recent call history
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I would absolutely HATE that.
I almost never physically punch in a number to call someone. Making the phone tile point at the dial-pad would mean that, almost every time I open that tile, I would have to use an additional tap to get out of the dial-pad and go somewhere that's actually useful.
Maybe have the option to pin the dialer to the homescreen, but don't make it the default behavior.
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I would absolutely HATE that.
I almost never physically punch in a number to call someone. Making the phone tile point at the dial-pad would mean that, almost every time I open that tile, I would have to use an additional tap to get out of the dial-pad and go somewhere that's actually useful.
Maybe have the option to pin the dialer to the homescreen, but don't make it the default behavior.
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The call history is useless unless the person there actually took or received a call from you. The only other tab is... Voicemail.
People requires another tap. Dialer requires another tap. These are smartphones. It shouldn't be a ***** to get to the dialer. The dialer should be the default view. I'm surprised people think its cool to hide the dialer on a smartphone, and not give an option to set the default view. Going straight to history is retarded.
This is the first phone I've owned that actually made it harder to place calls.
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N8ter said:
The call history is useless unless the person there actually took or received a call from you. The only other tab is... Voicemail.
People requires another tap. Dialer requires another tap. These are smartphones. It shouldn't be a ***** to get to the dialer. The dialer should be the default view. I'm surprised people think its cool to hide the dialer on a smartphone, and not give an option to set the default view. Going straight to history is retarded.
This is the first phone I've owned that actually made it harder to place calls.
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that one extra keypress is really going to wear away at the tip of your finger.
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that one extra keypress is really going to wear away at the tip of your finger.
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And giving people the option to have the keypad come up by default would just totally destroy the "beauty" of Metro for you, wouldn't it?
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And giving people the option to have the keypad come up by default would just totally destroy the "beauty" of Metro for you, wouldn't it?
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Yes.
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And giving people the option to have the keypad come up by default would just totally destroy the "beauty" of Metro for you, wouldn't it?
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want some cheese with your whine?
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want some cheese with your whine?
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Hyperbole begets hyperbole. If you want to dish it out, you'd better be prepared to take it in return.
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Yes.
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Pathetic.
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scoobysnacks said:
that one extra keypress is really going to wear away at the tip of your finger.
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But you have to remeber the main purpose of the device
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Along with one touch to dialer keypad, I would like a better browser, multi select text messages, Video calling intergrated into OS instead of a Third party app, new hardware to the table such as solar power to help charge the battery on the go, LED notification a standard on all devices, ability to turn on/off new text message prompt onscreen, ability to access a mini menu to toggle airplane mode, vibrate, wifi when u touch them at the top of your screen. file explorer at least for the memory card, would be nice for the device also, Would like to see lanscape capabilities for the homescreen and throughout the OS. Innovative exclusive apps for WP7.
WP7 needs to bring something very unique to the table, something that sets it apart from its competition. I like how Apple used Siri to drive the sales of its phones, people saw that and went crazy. WP needs to take t aht same approach to drive sales.
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But you have to remeber the main purpose of the device
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Along with one touch to dialer keypad, I would like a better browser, multi select text messages, Video calling intergrated into OS instead of a Third party app, new hardware to the table such as solar power to help charge the battery on the go, LED notification a standard on all devices, ability to turn on/off new text message prompt onscreen, ability to access a mini menu to toggle airplane mode, vibrate, wifi when u touch them at the top of your screen. file explorer at least for the memory card, would be nice for the device also, Would like to see lanscape capabilities for the homescreen and throughout the OS. Innovative exclusive apps for WP7.
WP7 needs to bring something very unique to the table, something that sets it apart from its competition. I like how Apple used Siri to drive the sales of its phones, people saw that and went crazy. WP needs to take t aht same approach to drive sales.
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did you try surfcube 3d browser?
it's actually quite good.
As far as the whole "main purpose of the device" thing, the main purpose is not to cater to how you individually think the Os should work...
Many people probably like how it is set up
i tried using surfcube when it first came out, didnt really like it. I just need something simple.
I really enjoyed when my coworker that was debating against iOS and WP7 stated that WP will surpass both iOS and Android in the near future in front of all of these iphone users. I wasnt expecting him to say that, but his opinion was unbiased and legit. He actually took the time to play with both of the devices and seeing how they work. I don blame him for liking Siri so much that it swayed him to buy the 4S, that was Apples whole intent and thats what WP has to do. He also mentioned the marketplace not having tons of apps, I couldnt contest him there. Then another Coworker chimed in and said you wont use half that **** so what does it matter. Valid Point.
But
I like the way Windows is headed, they want WP to succeed along with its valued customers, its up to us to help them and watch the OS succeed. Im not going anywhere, because I like WP and it suits me best. I cant tell you the last time I had to do a battery pull or reset the phone. thats priceless. Just a few things Windows need to work on to get things just right. Then innovate after that is the key.
To the OP some of those animations u were seeing were because things were still loading. The reason those animations are gone is because everything loads faster. I also actually like being able to access my tabs in landscape without having to turn the screen back over. To vetvito the apps do support landscape if the developer adds it. Most of my apps have this.
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FiyaFleye said:
This is the one thing that bothers me about the OS, and I think you'll agree I'm a dedicated supporter in Microsoft, Metro, Windows Phone, and W8... But I think they need to include an LED notification system. Does every phone have an LED? Because I'm starting to wonder if the OEMs are the ones responsible for including this and just haven't.
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Wow, ok you know what, if you don't like it, there's the door.
Android has multiple mutilple fragmented devices for you to try out. Anything, just so long as you stop whining and accept the fact that this is a new OS. There's going to be growth before it gets to the point of the other two platforms. It's people like you who make these boards unbearable. This used to be a place where likeminded individuals could discuss an OS they love. You and your negativity is all but ruining it.
/there, think I covered everything
//seriously, this is the response people get for discussing shortcomings
/from people like you
Wow, you mad bro?
Actually, having no LED notification is quite fine with me. Imagine having an ugly orange blinking LED destroying the sexy and refined lines of my DVP!! Although, one of the things I loved about my HTC Fuze (Touch Pro) was the notification LED hidden behind the capacitive button that glowed... that was sexy. WP7 is missing a notification bar somewhere accessible from the start and lock screens so I know what I missed. Toast notifications are cool and all, but I don't always catch them on time.
While 9/10 calls are made to people in my contact list, I do miss the smart dialer we had in WM6.5. At least make the bottom half of the screen the dialer and the top half the history. If you dial a number, the history disappears and if you tap the history, the dialer disappears. I also wish we could individually pin numbers or sms from a person's contact instead of the entire contact. I call people way more than I text them so I don't need their entire contact information displayed when I pin a contact to the start screen.
Oh well, let's hope Microsoft hears our cries!!

From Android?

Anyone moved from Android to WM7, primarily a Radar? Thoughts? I'm on a GS2 right now and considering a switch.
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Anyone moved from Android to WM7, primarily a Radar? Thoughts? I'm on a GS2 right now and considering a switch.
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I did, and I think I made the right choice.
Depends what you are looking for. If you are looking for thousands of apps, no. If you are looking for useful apps, yes most of android ones I found exist here. Few don't but you can only wait. If you are looking for stable, fast and extremely reliable phones, yes. New fresh UI, yes. New integration etc, yes. All in all depends what you want from the phone.
What DONT you like? What about things like Gmail integration? Video chat with Skype? Tweaks and modifications?
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What DONT you like? What about things like Gmail integration? Video chat with Skype? Tweaks and modifications?
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i moved to wp7 from ios and android. i still use my iphone sometimes because of all the themes. android for me was a laggy force close experience. i love my htc titan. i never have any issues and the screen size is great. everything i need to do my windows phone does, just like my android phone did. the only down side for me was loosing all the customizations that android and ios (jailbroken iphone 4) have. if you dont change the look of you phone with widgets and roms all the time then you wont regret the switch.
Android even though I would never have it, is what Windows Mobile use to be, you had freedom and functionality. I went from WM to WP and even though WP isn't bad it does suck elephant balls compared to WM. WP is stable and quicker, I do remember having to reset my WM phone every now and then but if I need to do something simple like create an MMS message with sound, it would do it, if I needed to transfer a file via Bluetooth no problem, If I wanted to add a freaking wallpaper to my start screen I could. Things which I'm pretty sure you could do now on Android. If you do switch over be prepared to give up a lot of your choices.
I change roms all the time on my hd7. Try something different, try win phone. Don't rely on the opinions of others, especially in these highly bias forums.
Plenty of these threads already.
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Give this a read - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1379120
It's android to Titan, but essentially most gen2 windows phone will have more or less same experience software wise. The hardware choice depends on your taste. Please do remember we don't need processors with size of elephant's ass because OS was designed to rule the hardware unlike Android where you need certain hardware before even thinking of running the bulky OS on it.
^ see what I mean by bias? That post sums this little Winphone world up.
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vetvito said:
^ see what I mean by bias? That post sums this little Winphone world up.
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wtf!
drupad2drupad said:
wtf!
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Hahaha! Funny.
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hah2110 said:
Anyone moved from Android to WM7, primarily a Radar? Thoughts? I'm on a GS2 right now and considering a switch.
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I moved Android - WP7 - Android.
Sadly I had to ditch WP although I wanted to stay.
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Hahaha! Funny.
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I moved Android - WP7 - Android.
Sadly I had to ditch WP although I wanted to stay.
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Why
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Since you are looking at the Radar and are in the US I assume you plan on being on t-mobile. I would see if you can't get your hands on a HTC HD2. Then you can have both WP and Android, plus it's fun to hack around on. Only down side might be if you NEED a FFC for video chat.
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Hahaha! Funny.
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I know right! It's like people don't follow any OS anymore, they troll down my posts! But all good joy of meeting exciting people at XDA!
I moved from Android (and iPhone before that) and am very happy here. There are certain shortcomings that will be addressed in time, and as long as you don't need to customize your phone all the time you should definitely give it a try. Its quite a refreshing take on mobile UI/interaction.
I went from windows mobile (wizard, tilt2 then the htc pure) where i was costantly changing roms and the back grounds. One rom would fix one thing but break another. I just was never satisfied and truthfully i spent more time fooling and changing things at work then i did working. Then i got a windows phone 7 mod for my pure. started playing with it but wasn't sure if i would like it. Then i found a great deal on a HTC surround online and since my contract wouldnt' be efffected and in 6 months i could change if i didn't like it via contract upgrade, i dove in. This was pre-nodo. I was glad for the switch. in the 1st few months though i did have rom flashing withdrawl..damn u xd for getting me hooked. But... i learned to use a phone for what it was ment to be used for. The surround was super stable and the MS commercials were right. Glance and go. I spent less time messing with my phone and more time using it. The live tiles just work. Well contract time came, and i waited watching for 2nd generation phones. 8 months later... att had a black friday sale. Titan for 1 cent. I now own a titan and i WILL NEVER own a phone with a smaller screen again. It's freaken amazing. My only hopes that would make it even sweeter will be if Nokia releases one with the same size screen in 2 years. (i have always been a nokia fan at heart for there hardware)
Now the good for windows phone
The integration in the people hub is sweet. Change from texting someone to facebooking them with one button in the same interface! In the contacts, scroll left and everyones facebook is there. I created groups and if i click on "Family" i see all my familys facebook only. If i click on only 1 person, i can see only that persons. No app loading. no wait. how sweet is that. There are countless ways things integrated in the O/S.
if i hit voice, say movies it will bing search the web and present me with a list. When i click on it it shows the list again but with user ratings, what kind of movie it is and how long the movie is. When i click the movie i would like to see, it gives me movie art, same info but showtime to the left showing i can scroll that way. Scroll to showtime and there is the closest place to me that is showing it and all the times with a buy ticket box under it. If i click the movie location i can get directions, phone number and address + website of the theater. if i scroll left i can see all the apps i have currently and any app i could want to download for doing these tasks. If i click buy ticket ( you may have to have msn movies for this but i am not sure) it took me into msn movies to pre-purchase the ticket.
Oh and the directions link i told you about takes you to bing maps with a gps step by step, ready to take you there. If i clicked on the phone number instead, it would dial the movie theater.
There are tons of these little extras you will discover in windows phone, already there, and not talked about.
drupad2drupad said:
I know right! It's like people don't follow any OS anymore, they troll down my posts! But all good joy of meeting exciting people at XDA!
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No, the funny part is how you didn't understand his comment.
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Why
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Just because total amount of limitations.
In every way, starting from missing features and ending on OS design inconsistencies.
I truly believe WP7 will be good OS in one year the earliest.
from galaxy s 4g to radar
pros:
- so easy, a caveman can use it
- pretty ui transition. smooth
- dedicated camera button
- LED flash, decent camera
- (supposedly) guaranteed to get timely OS updates
cons:
- alternate browser (no opera, etc). there are "alternate browsers" but they are just skins on top of IE9. NO
- no swype (there is knock off but it sucks)
- VERY limited app selection. most are 1-3 stars rating w bad reviews
- decent apps are $1-5
- no gmail app and nice stuffs like threaded view like web version, no priority emails, etc
- google voice apps cost $ for push
- cant "send text to..." by voice via google voice
- cant "send email to..." by voice
- "navigate to ..." doesnt give easy voice navigation like android. clunky to use
- cant set default app for certain action (always send email via some third party app, etc)
- individual volume settings for ring, alarm, music, notification, keyboard
- no speech to text in any text field (i miss that little mic icon on ALL keyboards)
- slow. does things smoothly, but get things done SLOWER than SGS4G. same 1Ghz processor, 512MB RAM.
- no flash. say what you will about flash but having a choice is better than none. plus SGS4G can handle flash video on websites quite well
I'll be selling my Radar soon. bought it cause stupid samsung wont give me ICS/android 4.0
From nexus S to Samsung focus. And I am lovin' it
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No, the funny part is how you didn't understand his comment.
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Just because total amount of limitations.
In every way, starting from missing features and ending on OS design inconsistencies.
I truly believe WP7 will be good OS in one year the earliest.
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I did and that's why the wtf. There has to be a team troll out here. You dint sense the tone either. Bet you like Android?
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pros:
- so easy, a caveman can use it
- pretty ui transition. smooth
- dedicated camera button
- LED flash, decent camera
- (supposedly) guaranteed to get timely OS updates
cons:
- alternate browser (no opera, etc). there are "alternate browsers" but they are just skins on top of IE9. NO
- no swype (there is knock off but it sucks)
- VERY limited app selection. most are 1-3 stars rating w bad reviews
- decent apps are $1-5
- no gmail app and nice stuffs like threaded view like web version, no priority emails, etc
- google voice apps cost $ for push
- cant "send text to..." by voice via google voice
- cant "send email to..." by voice
- "navigate to ..." doesnt give easy voice navigation like android. clunky to use
- cant set default app for certain action (always send email via some third party app, etc)
- individual volume settings for ring, alarm, music, notification, keyboard
- no speech to text in any text field (i miss that little mic icon on ALL keyboards)
- slow. does things smoothly, but get things done SLOWER than SGS4G. same 1Ghz processor, 512MB RAM.
- no flash. say what you will about flash but having a choice is better than none. plus SGS4G can handle flash video on websites quite well
I'll be selling my Radar soon. bought it cause stupid samsung wont give me ICS/android 4.0
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Android is your cuppa surely!
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First time with....well everything almost.

I've been with Sprint for almost 9 years now, and before my Evo 4G in 2010 all I had were the old Nextel i95's...so needless to say I'm at a complete loss with WP7. I tinkered and tailored with Android ROM's for years now and have loved a lot about the OS...but I just couldn't pass up this deal for the Lumia 900 on AT&T. I'm beyond satisfied after having set everything up and loving how tightly knit and integrated a lot of the features are. But I still have some questions:
1) Can i screen capture with the stock rom? I don't want to have to unlock this phone (That was one of the reasons I left Android, you needed to unlock to do ANYTHING)
2) Are there any apps beyond the 3 that use a double tile? Is this a setting somewhere that I'm missing on? Kinda like resizing widgets?
3) Are there different themes, beyond the color switching pallete, that can be used with WP7? And while we're at it, is there a different lockscreen or anything else that can be done from it besides unlocking it? (Such as unlocking to text, email, custom app?)
4) What's up with the notifications disappearing after a while before I get a chance to check em? Is there a way to check them besides going to their respective clients to see what I missed?
5) Can you guys point me towards some alternative apps or settings to replace some of the stock feaures?
6) Besides having to login to AT&T all the time, is there a different way to monitor my data usage? A simple app perhaps?
7) Oh and how could I forget....do I have to go all the way to the settings every time to see what the percentage on my battery is? I found a couple threads saying that you have to unlock the phone for this feature but I refuse to believe that something this simple needs a workaround like that.
Thanks in advance guys, loving this OS and looking forward to some of the changes.
1) Unfortunately not. Most screen captures you see on the net are done using the development software.
2) Tiles sizes are determined by the developers. I wish there was a way of making them single or double too.
3) The colours are the only customisation you can do right now without unlocking the device other than changing the lock screen. The lockscreen I like, as it unlocks to the "desktop" when there is no notifications but if you unlock it as a notification happens then it will take you the application required to see the notification.
Also for some awesome lock screens go to the deviantart website.
4) This is my one and only gripe with WP7. Having said that after unlocking the notication is either facebook or twitter (the only ones not shown on the home screen) and both of those show on my "ME" tile. So really if I want to see anything I missed I go to the "ME" tile and slide across to notifications.
5) What stock features do you need help with?
6) Im not on AT&T and my phone provider has an app to do this so I would be contacting AT&T about this.
7) They do not show a % because its not very accurate I think. This is something I at first hated but I don't care that much any more. This is not like my Samsung Galaxy II which wouldn't last a day. I usually get over a days use out of my Lumia so I don't have to look all the time and be worried. When the love heart goes on the battery I know its getting low but still I have HOURS left.
In terms of number 5 I just meant is there an alternate keyboard, browser, gallery, search feature/marketplace etc. Not that I have a problem with any of these (although I do miss haptic feedback on my keyboard) I just wanted to know if there were alternatives.
EDIT: I do have a problem with ONE of those things I mentioned. The marketplace...it seems too cluttered and feels like the phone is always zoomed in with the way everything looks...but that looks like it was done on purpose.
You.can get two off your list with a Developer unlocked device. Think of it this way. Nokia is giving you a $100 credit because of the data issue. Use it to purchase a legitimate Dev key from Microsoft. Can sideload apps, and also develop with it.
1) can do it with homebrew Screen Capturer app.
2) Only Microsoft or OEMs can develop double wide tiles.
3) Need to have an interop unlocked device to add colors, etc. More involved than dev unlocked and not yet available for the L900.
6) The AT&T myAT&T app will give you the info you need. Nokia is also releasing a data tracking app. Coming soon.
7) Homebrew Battery Meter app. Updates a Live Tile every 10 minutes. Pretty accurate. Good history charts.
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There are a few other browsers and such but they are all just front ends for the existing apps supplied with the device. There is also a few marketplace apps which you might find better. I use AppTastic every now and then purely as it shows what's on sale. There might be an app which I don't think is worth $5 or $6 after the trial but would happily purchase to support the developers for a few bucks.
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In terms of number 5 I just meant is there an alternate keyboard, browser, gallery, search feature/marketplace etc. Not that I have a problem with any of these (although I do miss haptic feedback on my keyboard) I just wanted to know if there were alternatives.
EDIT: I do have a problem with ONE of those things I mentioned. The marketplace...it seems too cluttered and feels like the phone is always zoomed in with the way everything looks...but that looks like it was done on purpose.
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Well, there are alot of the things that are different. Can't/Won't say if its better because thats a personal choice. I've grown to love the look and feel now. So has my daughter...but my son hates it. I gave them both 2 weeks to like it or I would buy them their next phone. My daughter converted...my son did not, and did not want new phone. But, with that said, there are some things I miss from Android....not much, but some. I do wish Live Tiles were a touch more customizable. I wish I could have some more color schemes instead of the just the current ones. I'd love to have a Black/White and/or Grey/white combination of colors also.
Otherwise....its a matter of just trying and getting used to it. I think it took my daughter 3 days to get used to the tiles and groupings of the hubs and what they are designed for. Her original list of must haves went away....
Thanks for all the help guys, yea I figured that most of my complaints/issues could only be solved with an unlock phone but I figured I'd ask. I've got another question, do apps auto update or do I need to manually check em every time?
Your marketplace tile will have a number on it showing the number of updates available. So no you never need to go check but you do need to initiate the update manually when you see that there is some waiting for update.
Again thanks guys for getting me started with the phone. Just a few more questions:
1) Is there a way to set a tile to immediately turn on/off either Bluetooth or Wifi? Or am I stuck with the default settings tile?
2) Can I save a setting where I don't have to download my pictures every time I open an email? I used to just pit "Always show pictures" on the Android GMail client.
3) I've looked and looked and still cant find a tile to just show battery. Can someone link me to an official one that I don't have to side load?
4) Is the app Bandwidth the only app for network speed test? Its kinda glitchy for me.
5) Is there a way to get that HTC Hub on this Lumia or is that another thing where I gotta unlock the phone? I really like the look of it.
6) Someone mentioned that you can change the lockscreen, or at the very least the wallpaper, how do you do that?
Thanks.
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Again thanks guys for getting me started with the phone. Just a few more questions:
1) Is there a way to set a tile to immediately turn on/off either Bluetooth or Wifi? Or am I stuck with the default settings tile?
2) Can I save a setting where I don't have to download my pictures every time I open an email? I used to just pit "Always show pictures" on the Android GMail client.
3) I've looked and looked and still cant find a tile to just show battery. Can someone link me to an official one that I don't have to side load?
4) Is the app Bandwidth the only app for network speed test? Its kinda glitchy for me.
5) Is there a way to get that HTC Hub on this Lumia or is that another thing where I gotta unlock the phone? I really like the look of it.
6) Someone mentioned that you can change the lockscreen, or at the very least the wallpaper, how do you do that?
Thanks.
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Dont know if someone mentioned this, but you're in the droid mentality right now. Like Apple, alot of the framework is locked down. Even with sideloads, alot of the framework is not available. HTC Hub is one of those. MS did not want that kind of screen and they don't allow it. WP is based on Live Tiles and they are sticking with it...for now.
You can change the lock screen pic by going to settings and Lock+Wallpaper. You can change the timeing settings and the picture. If you have a picture you want to use, go to your pictures hub and simply long press on the pic, use as wallpaper is an option.
But mostly, do not expect alot of hack/modding on these phones. For the most part, most of Windows phones, were Android phones at 1 time...ie the Samsung focus line. HD7 was the HD2 line which has been successfully ported to Android and WP7. If you want android type functionality in terms of look and feel...probably not gonna get it here. Of course, I could be wrong....but...who knows.
iiDeadSeriousii said:
Again thanks guys for getting me started with the phone. Just a few more questions:
1) Is there a way to set a tile to immediately turn on/off either Bluetooth or Wifi? Or am I stuck with the default settings tile?
2) Can I save a setting where I don't have to download my pictures every time I open an email? I used to just pit "Always show pictures" on the Android GMail client.
3) I've looked and looked and still cant find a tile to just show battery. Can someone link me to an official one that I don't have to side load?
4) Is the app Bandwidth the only app for network speed test? Its kinda glitchy for me.
5) Is there a way to get that HTC Hub on this Lumia or is that another thing where I gotta unlock the phone? I really like the look of it.
6) Someone mentioned that you can change the lockscreen, or at the very least the wallpaper, how do you do that?
Thanks.
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I don't have answers for all of these, but here's a few (and fwiw I agree
with alodar1). But before I begin, not sure if you're aware of the Marketplace online (http://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/marketplace) - might make searching easier as you're starting out.
1) "Settings Tile" is 1 such app (I don't use these, so I can't recommend which one to install, but I've seen this one recommended... *shrug*) http://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/apps/102014a6-156e-4604-8f1a-2a86e4edf191
2 & 3 don't know, sorry
4) TestMyNet works decent: http://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/apps/a25ec139-fc33-4571-9425-cf031a3312bb
5) No, sorry (I had it and never really used it...)
6) Answered above =)
You may also want to check out 'AppFlow' (http://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/apps/578ef361-c265-46b7-b6f4-63cbd7fbefe0) or some similar application recommendation app.
alodar1 said:
Dont know if someone mentioned this, but you're in the droid mentality right now. Like Apple, alot of the framework is locked down. Even with sideloads, alot of the framework is not available. HTC Hub is one of those. MS did not want that kind of screen and they don't allow it. WP is based on Live Tiles and they are sticking with it...for now.
You can change the lock screen pic by going to settings and Lock+Wallpaper. You can change the timeing settings and the picture. If you have a picture you want to use, go to your pictures hub and simply long press on the pic, use as wallpaper is an option.
But mostly, do not expect alot of hack/modding on these phones. For the most part, most of Windows phones, were Android phones at 1 time...ie the Samsung focus line. HD7 was the HD2 line which has been successfully ported to Android and WP7. If you want android type functionality in terms of look and feel...probably not gonna get it here. Of course, I could be wrong....but...who knows.
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Yea I realize I still kinda am in that mentality. It's just there's so many little things I took for granted that I never realized were there until this happened. I love this platform so far though, I have no major complaints, just small issues with it. But thanks for the tip, yea I know about the HD2 cause the first thing my brother did when he got that a couple years ago was have me put Gingerbread on it lol. I'll stick with what I've got for now tho, this is a ridiculously smooth experience and if I've gotta make some sacrifices, oh well. I still get everything done that I want throughout the day...I just wished some apps were better supported.

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