Does that means there will be no new towers installed in areas like Indianapolis. Guess we will get pushed to the back of the line for the LTE service as well.
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Does that means there will be no new towers installed in areas like Indianapolis. Guess we will get pushed to the back of the line for the LTE service as well.
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this has been beaten to death already. it is very unlikely any new towers will be added... and certainly not in an area where this is no wimax at all. a few towns might see some new protection sites but thats about it.
wimax will work until at least 2015... so you have 3 full years to get some use out of it when you can.
I could be wrong but I don't think clearwire is done with wimax yet.
Although they do it at a turtles pace they are still expanding last I saw.
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I could be wrong but I don't think clearwire is done with wimax yet.
Although they do it at a turtles pace they are still expanding last I saw.
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clear wire is also switching to lte as well. sprint gave them millions of dollar to help them switch over. clearwire is also ditching the efforts of wimaxes..
i just hope sprint is quick about lte rollouts. with lightsquare not being able to produce lte for sprint, they need to be quick with an alternatives
Thanks for the response, really what to use the 4g I get teased with it constantly while traveling and can't seem to find clear answers on news relating to these things
Clearwire will do some maintenance and minor additions here or there (to fulfill license requirements), but there will be no more major expansion. The existing Wimax network will be continued until at least 2015. Beginning in 2013, Clearwire's LTE network will be turned on in key cities to supplement Sprint's LTE network.
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this has been beaten to death already. it is very unlikely any new towers will be added... and certainly not in an area where this is no wimax at all. a few towns might see some new protection sites but thats about it.
wimax will work until at least 2015... so you have 3 full years to get some use out of it when you can.
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I'm just asking here, didn't they say they are not making anymore wiimax phones?
If they aren't making any more phones what incentive do they have to make more wiimax towers?
*My own opinion Damn it*
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I'm just asking here, didn't they say they are not making anymore wiimax phones?
If they aren't making any more phones what incentive do they have to make more wiimax towers?
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correct, no more wimax phones. there is no incentive to add any more towers. if any towers do go up they will be protection sites. altho according to the following site explaining protection sites... they were to be finished by 2011
http://s4gru.spruz.com/forums/?page...3745&fid=CDD46982-E4AC-458A-913A-E5BE9C484E3D
but as i said before.. if you arent in a wimax area now.. you wont be getting it. those who are in a coverage area.. enjoy it until 2015. unlimited 4mbps(on avg) mobile internet is pretty rad.
Correct me if I'm wrong, clearwire is already an established lte provider?
So it wouldn't be long until we have good lte coverage?
Yes, no lol
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Correct me if I'm wrong, clearwire is already an established lte provider?
So it wouldn't be long until we have good lte coverage?
Yes, no lol
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Clearwire does not have enough money to make the capital expenditures (which is why 4G Wimax was halted). Instead, beginning in 2013, Clearwire's LTE network will be turned on in key cities ("hotspots") to supplement Sprint's LTE network.
This news really effing pisses me off. I buy this phone hopeing that in a year or a few months from now that 4g would come to my city. And they just say "Oh well, sorry, we are not going to do that bit anymore"?
Why aren't people more pissed off about this?
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This news really effing pisses me off. I buy this phone hopeing that in a year or a few months from now that 4g would come to my city. And they just say "Oh well, sorry, we are not going to do that bit anymore"?
Why aren't people more pissed off about this?
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Because Sprint is awesome. Bask in its awesomeness! Bask! Bask, I tell you!
In all seriousness, what is Sprint to do? They are now in the position that they need to change to LTE for its 4G technology. WiMax is dying. For those of us who bought WiMax devices before we had WiMax service (me included), we took a risk. It didn't pay off.
Given the position Sprint currently is in, they are doing the right things. Network Vision and LTE.
- Robert, Sprint 4G Rollout Updates
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Because Sprint is awesome. Bask in its awesomeness! Bask! Bask, I tell you!
In all seriousness, what is Sprint to do? They are now in the position that they need to change to LTE for its 4G technology. WiMax is dying. For those of us who bought WiMax devices before we had WiMax service (me included), we took a risk. It didn't pay off.
Given the position Sprint currently is in, they are doing the right things. Network Vision and LTE.
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What is Sprint to do? How about offering early upgrades to an LTE phone without penalties?
And I did not take a risk, I signed a contract. Contacts exist to negate risk. I also asked them if 4g would be available in a specific area and they said yes. Now they say no. This change happened in a matter of months. Sprint took a risk and more they are pushing the cost of that failed risk on to its customers.
All I know is when they get 4g lte in an area I live in I will tell them that my 4g will not connect and have then replace it with an lte phone.
Wimax is not dieing, sprint is killing it. Big difference.
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What is Sprint to do? How about offering early upgrades to an LTE phone without penalties?
And I did not take a risk, I signed a contract. Contacts exist to negate risk. I also asked them if 4g would be available in a specific area and they said yes. Now they say no. This change happened in a matter of months. Sprint took a risk and more they are pushing the cost of that failed risk on to its customers.
All I know is when they get 4g lte in an area I live in I will tell them that my 4g will not connect and have then replace it with an lte phone.
Wimax is not dieing, sprint is killing it. Big difference.
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I like that idea of lte upgrades with no penalty. However i highly doubt they will go for it cause they need you to fullfill a 2yr contract to cover the cost of the highly marked down hand sets included in a 2yr contract. It would be soo sick though if they executed your idea! Why arnt people mad like you are ( other guys post not you crzchn) is for differeny reaons. I beleive most people if not all have the right to be and most should be. But for some one like me ( lives in hawaii) i bought this device knowing it woulsnt see 4g for years if ever. So i was already under the impression that i wouldnt get it so im not dissapointed. Even though the reps said i would get it i knew better than he did. I look forward to ICS because it wont be restricted to location since the net is everywhere. That is a realistic possibility im happy for. Besides my island is so tiny that there arnt lots of people hogging the towers so i average 1Mb/sec
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Given how iit takes nearly a year for sprint to make money on each consumer as they take a huge hit oon every phone they discount, and how they are hurting for money as is... not happening. We knew that wimax was dying for nearly a year now, no news there. At least Sprint still allows unlimited data, as well as no BS fees like Verizon. Not to mention they are doing major upgrades to our network, specifically 3g.
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What is Sprint to do? How about offering early upgrades to an LTE phone without penalties?
And I did not take a risk, I signed a contract. Contacts exist to negate risk. I also asked them if 4g would be available in a specific area and they said yes. Now they say no. This change happened in a matter of months. Sprint took a risk and more they are pushing the cost of that failed risk on to its customers.
All I know is when they get 4g lte in an area I live in I will tell them that my 4g will not connect and have then replace it with an lte phone.
Wimax is not dieing, sprint is killing it. Big difference.
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This news really effing pisses me off. I buy this phone hopeing that in a year or a few months from now that 4g would come to my city. And they just say "Oh well, sorry, we are not going to do that bit anymore"?
Why aren't people more pissed off about this?
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Because this is old news and we all knew about it before buying a new device.
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Because this is old news and we all knew about it before buying a new device.
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I didnt know that when i bought mine. Im not a supet geek
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You don't have to be a "geek" to know how to read...... Just saying
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Because this is old news and we all knew about it before buying a new device.
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Sorry, that is just bull donkey. I asked them about expanding in Tucson and they said they were. Now they say they are not. Why should I expect any different?
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You don't have to be a "geek" to know how to read...... Just saying
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Read what? This?
http://m.electronista.com/iphone/articles/11/07/13/sprint.and.clearwire.expand.4g.network/
Or this?
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Spri...-so-called-4G-networks-to-more-cities_id12976
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This is likely a dumb question, buts its worth a shot, do any of you Sprint insiders have any info on some future WiMax cities? I have used 4G going through Nashville and Atlanta, but I would really love it have it here in Louisville.
Its just frustrating that a city with a metro population of 1.4 Million doesn't have 4G, yet smaller towns like Lansing, MI and Wichita Falls, TX do.
It has to do with the way Clear does business. They will go into small cities because there is less competition. Grand Rapids, Mi, for example, gave Clear tax incentives to build their network there. They are in a lot of larger and mid-sized cities, but they are going to go where there is less competition, or some other type of incentive to go there. Sprint is going to have a good amount of say in where Clear builds out since they own a majority of Clear, but Clear still needs to be profitable (which they are not), or at least try.
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Sprint is switching to LTE in the near future so WiMax is going away
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Sprint is switching to LTE in the near future so WiMax is going away
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Where's your source on this?
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Where's your source on this?
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Excellent question. Would give you thanks but apparently I'm limited to 5 a day.
I work at a Sprint service & got to listen in on a conference call with the sprint engineers. I shouldn't have said near future cause ETA is 2012 for it.
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Where's your source on this?
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There's a topic on Engadget about it. http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...ur-to-six-months/&category=classic&postPage=1
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Sooo...if sprint did decide to switch to LTE...would that make us obsolete? I'm assuming I wouldn't get "4g" since my phone is wimax right? If that's the case, there would be some serious hell to pay since 4g and sprints pricing is the only reason I got rid of my 4 year old xv6800 and switched from verizon.
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Sooo...if sprint did decide to switch to LTE...would that make us obsolete? I'm assuming I wouldn't get "4g" since my phone is wimax right? If that's the case, there would be some serious hell to pay since 4g and sprints pricing is the only reason I got rid of my 4 year old xv6800 and switched from verizon.
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Thats a good question? anyone want to answer this?
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Thats a good question? anyone want to answer this?
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My best guess would be that the current 4G hardware would be fine. Clear is where Sprint gets their WiMax and Clear has a lot of customers using WiMax for home internet with a lot of equipment and I don't see it being cost effective to try and get everyone on LTE at the same time. Sprint and Clear would probably shift everyone over to LTE at some point, but that would be years down the road after LTE comes out. Kind of like the way the cell providers handled the switch from analog to digital. Just a guess, but when LTE comes out, there will be overlap while they sell out of their WiMax equipment as cheaper phones and sell new LTE equipment as their premium phones and they will support WiMax for 3-5 years longer. This is all conjecture, but I think this is the way it will happen.
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Yeah, and lets be honest with ourselves too...by the time this would actually happen across their entire current 3G spectrum, most people would already be on new phones by then anyway, regardless of how happy or not they are on their current one anyway.
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I work at a Sprint service & got to listen in on a conference call with the sprint engineers. I shouldn't have said near future cause ETA is 2012 for it.
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I call BS.
While Sprint can/will be able to flick a switch and enable LTE, there is no good reason to do it unless they want to BYOD Verizon phones. Which might be a reason to do it.
WiMAX has done better than LTE across the board. WiMAX comes from an IT background, with it's endless dev cycle and fierce price competition. LTE comes from a telco background, with it's bloat and ponderous plodding.
This means LTE deployments are very slow but work well. WiMax customers are going to suffer through bugs but they will be patched and reved through quickly.
Sprint has never has GSM phones, tho they are more common. Why Sprint would give up there mufti year head start to switch tech is beyond me.
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I call BS.
While Sprint can/will be able to flick a switch and enable LTE, there is no good reason to do it unless they want to BYOD Verizon phones. Which might be a reason to do it.
WiMAX has done better than LTE across the board. WiMAX comes from an IT background, with it's endless dev cycle and fierce price competition. LTE comes from a telco background, with it's bloat and ponderous plodding.
This means LTE deployments are very slow but work well. WiMax customers are going to suffer through bugs but they will be patched and reved through quickly.
Sprint has never has GSM phones, tho they are more common. Why Sprint would give up there mufti year head start to switch tech is beyond me.
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Not to knock anything you're saying but in my opinion, Wi-max isn't really good.
Sure, it has great range. Building penetration however, sucks. 2.5 ghz spectrum is not good IMO. Right now Verizon is testing VOLTE, voWIMAX on phones will be awful. It works well on Clear because most people put their modems in one spot and that's it. For phones, it would call for frequent disconnects.
I love Sprint, but after the froyo debacle, and me playing around with LTE 4G.
I believe LTE is the way to go
WiMAX is an open spec and does not have a frequency requirement. LTE is worse at building penetration then WiMAX, but that is not important. It is about frequency.
Sprint could run WiMax over 800 MHZ just fine. Poof no more reason for LTE.
But penetration, I understand, is not going to be a problem when we get around to 802.16m.
LTE is a closed, expensive, protocol. It is not network centric, it's Telco centric.
Anywhere in louisiana Please
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Its just frustrating that a city with a metro population of 1.4 Million doesn't have 4G, yet smaller towns like Lansing, MI and Wichita Falls, TX do.
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Oh that frustrates you?
How about this, Sebring, a city about 60 miles west of me has 4G via Clear. It is only Sebring, not bleed over from a neighboring city or anything like that.
Their population is around 10,000.
Suck on that for a while.
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Sprint is switching to LTE in the near future so WiMax is going away
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+1 I met a guy that works for ERICSSON which that company maintains Sprint towers here in Austin Texas.
He told me that LTE is more reliable/cheaper than clear-wire 4g. And not to expect anything till 2013/2014.
And he also told me that clear-wire 4g is not making profit.
If this is true ..I really don't know
Personally I think 4g sucks..unreliable
Why you do not want LTE
The thread is long and through. I think I'ma sig it.
According to Cnet's sources, on October 7th Sprint is going to announce that it is discontinuing its Wimaxipad rollout and moving to lte, leaving our phones behind.
http://m.cnet.com/Article.rbml?nid=20112095&cid=null&bcid=&bid=-94
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According to Cnet's sources, on October 7th Sprint is going to announce that it is discontinuing its Wimaxipad rollout and moving to lte, leaving our phones behind.
http://m.cnet.com/Article.rbml?nid=20112095&cid=null&bcid=&bid=-94
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Really? Did you really have to post this hyperbole?
"Leaving our phones behind"??? Yeah, in 2 or more years.
Jesus christ people...
EDIT: This is also months old news around here.
even if they did, I wont be letting this thing go until sprint gets the prime or HD. I love this phone too much
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According to Cnet's sources, on October 7th Sprint is going to announce that it is discontinuing its Wimaxipad rollout and moving to lte, leaving our phones behind.
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Old news. Wimax has been deployed in a new city for quite sometime and all the indications were that Sprint was going LTE. Existing Wimax signals likely won't be turned off for a couple of years. LTE phones won't be showing up on Sprint for 6-12 months, or right about when I'm ready to upgrade to a new phone anyway.
Mhh not interesting ... Im more pissed that they ended their premeir program... That was ****ty.
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Mhh not interesting ... Im more pissed that they ended their premeir program... That was ****ty.
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It was the main reason I liked sprint. Lol
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It was the main reason I liked sprint. Lol
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Atleast i get one more upgrade
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Looks like ima have to get the lte phone next upgrade
Samsung Galaxy S Dos indeed
For years, Sprint has relied on Clearwire, which uses an alternate, but older, 4G technology called WiMax.
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...they dont even know what they're talking about and are reporting on rumors...lovely.
Anyway, any network deactivation would take quite a while before it actually happens.
By the time it does, if it does, no one on XDA will have a Wimax Sprint phone anyway.
Sprint announced they were shutting down the iDen network a year ago... that won't even be done until 2013.
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It was the main reason I liked sprint. Lol
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I know right dude .. makes you just want to leave them .. i only see them going down the ****ter with these "changes" they're making to bring the damn iPhone to their network ... it's sad.
Sprint is still rolling out WiMax, as a matter of fact it was just turned on here in Naples, Fl. about a week ago. Also, Sprint has stated they will continue to support their 3G network and WiMax network as well as they have announced plans to develop a third LTE network in conjunction with Clear and a 4th LTE network in conjunction with Lighsquared. Sprint also has the ability to run a software update on their WiMax towers which will allow WiMax devices to run on the LTE networks so there is really nothing to be concerned about. Sprint is also planning to phase out the IDEN network in 2012.
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Sprint also has the ability to run a software update on their WiMax towers which will allow WiMax devices to run on the LTE networks
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[Citation Needed]
It's not that I don't believe you...it's just that...I don't believe you.
What I do know about WiMax and LTE is that the base stations, aside from minor hardware difference (coax vs fiber to antenna/emitter) they are only a software patch away from each other.
I have read that multiple times from multiple sources.
I have also read that such a thing is not possible with our devices. A WiMax devices is a WiMax device. Period.
Though what you say, hopefully on purpose, is very intriguing though potentially confusing. "Allow WiMax devices to run on LTE networks" ...when you look at it that way it doesn't seem so unreasonable...suggesting an abstraction layer?
Either way, citation needed. pics or it didn't happen, etc.
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Sprint also has the ability to run a software update on their WiMax towers which will allow WiMax devices to run on the LTE networks so there is really nothing to be concerned about
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Sorry but no.
That's like suggesting a software update will allow a GSM phone work on a CDMA network.
Inb4norevbnowdroppingwimaxdrama
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Yup... this is fncking absurd. I understand, not everybody can afford to upgrade their phone every 3-6 months...but Sprint isn't going to leave anyone behind.
If it was Rev.B we wouldn't get "left behind"....everyone on advanced new phones chugging through data on Rev.B would free up (tons) of bandwidth for us. If it is LTE we wouldn't get "left behind" because just dropping support for something is unheard of in this industry...do you know when AMPS (Analog Mobile Phone Service) was finally officially removed from service? 2008...that's "1G" Service (2G is digital voice), started service in the US in 1983. Sprint was the first to offer digital service in like 1997 or 1998 IIRC....so it took 10 effing years to finally kill that legacy service.
Stop worrying. Even when they want to murder tech quickly it's nearly impossible...aside from everyone being concerned with their own tiny little selfish "me and my phone" bubble just step back and consider how as many as TENS OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE would be potentially affected by it...and aside from your selfish little bubble that includes you and your new toy--which, for the record, I do think Sprint wouldn't think twice about alienating--I'm willing to bet that Sprint would like to avoid the backlash of millions of people.
I dunno...either that or you wasted your entire graduation gift money on a paperweight. Your call, really.
I would rather have decent 3g coverage in my apartment lol. A block south and there's awesome
Signal. Where at my apartment I barely get 3 bars if I'm lucky. Lte or wimax, I just want coverage.
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We knew they were jumping over to LTE. However, they know they can't just go shutting down WiMax service--especially while still selling and releasing new WiMax phones. Don't worry lads, our phones won't be going unsupported for several years yet.
I just hope they expand wimax more
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...I dunno about all that.
Though I'm not sure of Clearwire's plans. I'd check into that. If Clearwire expands then we'll probably get access to their network until the official EOL for their contract...which is probably measured in years.
Ok, that was weird my post disappeared or I edited it on accident daneurysm.
Here was the link to the latest news on Sprint's network. http://www.dailywireless.org/2011/09/27/sprints-lte-plans-leaked/
So i've been paying an additional $10 a month per line on my phones with 4G capabilities. Initally I had the OG EVO, 3D, and now Epic Touch. Its been well over a year probably close to two and I still dont have 4G not that this is something I need but it is something ive been paying for.
I dont live in some rural area (San Diego) so I dont see why they are lagging. Maybe this whole transition from 4G to LTE but that change was fairly recent.
Of couse when you call sprint they are not going to give you any time frame.
So I guess im stuck still paying the additional $10 on each line for a service I cannot access where I live and havent since day one.
Oh well, hopefully once LTE gets going SD will be one of the first to run it.
Anyone with some inside info care to provide some good news?
Sprint now defines that $10 as a smartphone surcharge and applies it to anything that runs iOS, Android, Bby, or WinMo 4g or not, although I don't think sprint has any current smartphones that aren't 4g.
You would've been better off to fight the 4g battle when the evo came out IMO.
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Sprint now defines that $10 as a smartphone surcharge and applies it to anything that runs iOS, Android, Bby, or WinMo 4g or not, although I don't think sprint has any current smartphones that aren't 4g.
You would've been better off to fight the 4g battle when the evo came out IMO.
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True..
At the time when the EVO came out I believe was the only 4G phone they carried so I guess was under the impression the charge was for 4G but I do see it has changed to a general charge for smart phones.
So I guess at this point its just a waiting game.
Techincally the evo was out first, but idunno where you lived, but the Epic was available first here due to false demand scams by HTC... either that or they made them one at a time. Seriously didnt you get enough of this topic in the evo forums?? I know we got sick of it in the Epic forums...
http://s4gru.com/ I found this site online, not sure how accurate their information is, but good to read through.
Al major markets se supposed to have LTE by the end of 2014 but we've all been hearing these ETAs for years with 4G so I wouldn't count on either. I'm in Milwaukee WI and have head we will have 4G by 2011.. never happened lol
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Sprint confirms LTE phones will feature unlimited data.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/03/sprint-lte-unlimited-data-everything-plan/
Also, see the link in my signature.
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Al major markets se supposed to have LTE by the end of 2014 but we've all been hearing these ETAs for years with 4G so I wouldn't count on either. I'm in Milwaukee WI and have head we will have 4G by 2011.. never happened lol
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I live by eau claire wi..... I have no hope for lte....
Got AOKP?
I'm in SD too and we're supposedly in the second list for the rollout which should start sometime soon...
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I live by eau claire wi..... I have no hope for lte....
Got AOKP?
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im near Milwaukee and I have less hope than you. I know Clear has been putting 4G towers in milwaukee and madison, but I have yet to pick up a 4G signal.
4G LTE...not happening.
Keep in mind, Sprint's 4G LTE is their own, with their own network, own buildout, and own spectrum.
I have read in several places Q3 for L.A. and Orange County and Q4 for San Diego so its safe to say before Christmas you will be rocking LTE
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Best answer to sprint lte is 3 years before most places fully see it. Hell I have been in a wimax test arear for over 2 years and at a sprint store I heard a salesman tell a customer there was no 4g at all but when it gets here it will be awesome. When sprints own staff has no idea 4g is even in their own service area how can I even trust them to put towers up.
Good for you people in great big luscious data driven cities, sucks every where else
I have had several sprint employees tell me that here in Virginia it should be within 2 years.
I have a question of my own. I have had a few people tell me that when LTE comes around we will have to have new phones because the hardware like in the Epic Touch will not work on LTE. Any truth to this?
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I have had several sprint employees tell me that here in Virginia it should be within 2 years.
I have a question of my own. I have had a few people tell me that when LTE comes around we will have to have new phones because the hardware like in the Epic Touch will not work on LTE. Any truth to this?
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Yes if you want lte you will have to get a lte capable phone..... Ie sgs3 HTC evo4g lte , etc .... The hardware in this phone will not work on lte . But until you get lte if you have 4g now there is no reason to change unless you're a phone junkie like me
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This summer I am guessing since that is when they are releasing the Evo Lte, Galaxy Nexus etc. Boston market looks like lte will cover almost the entire state, and if it's anything like how when the original htc evo launch, lte will most likely be already on in boston market.
so does this mean goodbye sprint for most of us?...http://www.pocketables.com/2012/08/...ed-unthrottled-data-starting-september-5.html I noticed they are talking about this in the "why do you stick with sprint" thread so if a mod wants to delete this please do. I didn't see that b4 i started this thread.
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so does this mean goodbye sprint for most of us?...http://www.pocketables.com/2012/08/...ed-unthrottled-data-starting-september-5.html
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No it doesn't for me, been with sprint 10 yrs and they always seem to 1 up everyone at some point. Plus they been good to us.
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This is most likely going to get me to switch. Buy an unlocked Nexus from play store and setup on tmobile BYOD plan and buh bye Sprint.
No nexus devices. After watching ET4G ICS screw ups, I am only buying Nexus devices.
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No it doesn't for me, been with sprint 10 yrs and they always seem to 1 up everyone at some point. Plus they been good to us.
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That's my only reason I haven't switched yet. Anytime I need a payment extension they give it to me. If I have trouble with something they work with me. That means a lot to me. Now the minute they start being asses. I'll be switching for sure.
Sprints customer service is awesome compared to other companies and that's one reason why I would stay with them
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So this states no hotspot offical or unoffical... is this the same with sprint and the hacked hotspots void this? or will this be impossible with T-Mobile?
not for me as its better than tmobile for me
shame id love to get those 42mbps speeds
Raistlin1 said:
This is most likely going to get me to switch. Buy an unlocked Nexus from play store and setup on tmobile BYOD plan and buh bye Sprint.
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This is exactly what I was thinking
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Ill be sticking with sprint. T-mo only has 2G speeds where I live as compared to sprints 3G. I'm also assuming I'll eventually have sprint LTE with network vision and all.
Don't you think that when sprint's LTE network becomes live and widespread they too will throttle their unlimited data
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Don't you think that when sprint's LTE network becomes live and widespread they too will throttle their unlimited data
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Fingers crossed for being grandfathered in.
s_special said:
Don't you think that when sprint's LTE network becomes live and widespread they too will throttle their unlimited data
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They won't now if tmobile keeps this plan... it's good for everyone.
This video says you won't be able to use the phone as a hotspot at all. I wonder if they'll kick you off for hacking hotspot or if it will even be possible to hack it? I love how they compare minutes but don't mention that Sprint offers "any mobile any time" which makes a world of difference. About 3,500 any mobile any time minutes a month for me.
That little missing point is "slightly" important.
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This video says you won't be able to use the phone as a hotspot at all. I wonder if they'll kick you off for hacking hotspot or if it will even be possible to hack it? I love how they compare minutes but don't mention that Sprint offers "any mobile any time" which makes a world of difference. About 3,500 any mobile any time minutes a month for me.
That little missing point is "slightly" important.
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Hacked hotspot depends on the phone, not the carrier.
Not everyone uses that many minutes. I stay under 100 usually.
T mobile is going to acquire a lot of customers due to this. Its a great move and may actually spark some competition and bring unlimited back.
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Its a great move and may actually spark some competition and bring unlimited back.
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Agreed competition and choice are good for everyone. I hope this move also keeps the 2 big companies in check with their plans and pricing.
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Agreed competition and choice are good for everyone. I hope this move also keeps the 2 big companies in check with their plans and pricing.
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To be honest i don't think att or verizon give a damn about what anyone else does, I just hope the 2 weak sister companies can hang in there.
I get awesome 3g and 4g here at home and at school but tmo seems only 2g
But at school they have 42mbps
If they had that at home id be hell yea
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To be honest i don't think att or verizon give a damn about what anyone else does, I just hope the 2 weak sister companies can hang in there.
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ATT and Verizon will give a damn when they start losing customers to t-mobile. T-mobile actually has a good network unlike sprint.
Tmobile actually has a pretty mixed up network. Outside of major metropolitan areas all they have is 2g or roaming (or lack of it) while sprint usually has native 3g (at least) or roaming on verizon. Service also degrades rapidly when you go inside buildings compared to Sprint and VZ not to mention the fact that T-mobile has quite the lack of spectrum to deploy both LTE and HSPA42+ on its current spectrum holdings.
Literally it's a mixed bag depending on where you live and what you do most like traveling or sitting in one spot. Just remember this. Sprints Network Vision upgrade is upgrading each and every tower to fiber or microwave backend. Their speeds are guaranteed to increase. Meanwhile T-mobile lacks spectrum in a lot of places and is currently in the process of refarming to 1900mhz 3g/4g (at last!) while lte is quite a bit away.
TBH i'd only switch if youre in an area with beyond horrible service and NV upgrades coming in a year or so...Other than that... ya it's great that t-mobile is getting unlimited again although in the long run sprint will be ahead of them.
Speaking of which... i'm starting to miss my good old sidekick lx and tmobile g1...
I know this question may only apply to me, but I've always wondered about the answer.
I've been in sprint for over 10 years and the epic touch is my 3rd android phone. No matter where I am in the country and what modem is have running on my phone, I've always had very poor reception.
I'm at the point of changing phones and providers because the issue is so bad.
Does sprint really still suck or is it my phone?
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
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I know this question may only apply to me, but I've always wondered about the answer.
I've been in sprint for over 10 years and the epic touch is my 3rd android phone. No matter where I am in the country and what modem is have running on my phone, I've always had very poor reception.
I'm at the point of changing phones and providers because the issue is so bad.
Does sprint really still suck or is it my phone?
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
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IMO, Sprint is not the best carrier for reception in all areas, but they are one of the least expensive considering they still have an unlimited plan. You could change the PRL to roam on other carrier's towers, but if you use too much data you can have your contract cancelled I hear.
Might be your phone /area
I myself have great 3g and 4G with sprint.. But then again I'm in a popular area
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Might be your phone /area
I myself have great 3g and 4G with sprint.. But then again I'm in a popular area
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Sounds like the area.. Unfortunatly... If modems don't make it better, then it's just the coverage around there. I live in a Non 4G area so i'm still wondering what that is like.
Another one of these threads?..... Seriously?
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Sounds like the area.. Unfortunatly... If modems don't make it better, then it's just the coverage around there. I live in a Non 4G area so i'm still wondering what that is like.
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Wait so do you still pay extra for the 4G? If so that sucks
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Wait so do you still pay extra for the 4G? If so that sucks
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Is a frogs ass water tight? Of course. They get their money from my family. Nature of the beast i guess
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Wait so do you still pay extra for the 4G? If so that sucks
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Yes, and to get around that $10 fee, it is now called data fee instead of 4G fee. I heard that when they were calling it the 4g fee in areas that did not have 4g there was a class action law suit brewing.
My phone gets similar reception to wife's HTC and friends iPhones on Sprint. Visit a Sprint store that also does service and compare to other phones. Maybe yours has a bad radio?
Maybe I'll bring my phone to test my radio. I travel the nation and am always in a major city (San Francisco, New York, Chicago, etc). As soon as I walk into a building, my reception goes to pretty much zero.
Sounds a bit extreme. Only time I notice reception that bad is walking into one of the walmarts here that must block cell service. I live in a fairly crappy service area too. 97504 if you want to take a look for yourself
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Maybe I'll bring my phone to test my radio. I travel the nation and am always in a major city (San Francisco, New York, Chicago, etc). As soon as I walk into a building, my reception goes to pretty much zero.
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Well that's your problem. Concrete + steel beams tend to block out higher end frequencies like 1ghz+ freq's like our 1900mhz cdma & 2.5ghz wimax. No solution to that until you get LTE 800 and CDMA-1x advanced @ 800mgz
I've had 5 phones with Sprint in Minneapolis. My E4GT has the weakest signal of any of them.
Speeds in my area at least seems to be better. 3g speeds/reception at my job went from unusable to being able to stream netflix/youtube vids easily. But yea the E4GT like others have said doesn't have the best built-in radio.
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Sounds a bit extreme. Only time I notice reception that bad is walking into one of the walmarts here that must block cell service. I live in a fairly crappy service area too. 97504 if you want to take a look for yourself
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Isn't that Medford,OR? I use to live there. Yes, it is very bad in there. T-Mobile is way worse though. Have you tried T-Mobile service? oh god.
Maybe it's finally time to switch to Verizon or at&t versus just getting a note 2 on sprint. Being the only person without cell reception when I'm with a group of people is getting too lame.
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Febby said:
Isn't that Medford,OR? I use to live there. Yes, it is very bad in there. T-Mobile is way worse though. Have you tried T-Mobile service? oh god.
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Yep! I have used T-Mobile in the past, and yes, it was even worse haha. Amazingly, they are currently the best here . Verizon will soon be number one though as they just launched lte here yesterday! Sprint has one upgrade planned in the next 6 months...sigh. I've already accepted that wimax won't be coming here. Sucks for clearwire...maybe lte someday
OP do you know anyone else with our phone? I would be interested to know if it is the phone in general or specifically your phone.
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Yep! I have used T-Mobile in the past, and yes, it was even worse haha. Amazingly, they are currently the best here . Verizon will soon be number one though as they just launched lte here yesterday! Sprint has one upgrade planned in the next 6 months...sigh. I've already accepted that wimax won't be coming here. Sucks for clearwire...maybe lte someday
OP do you know anyone else with our phone? I would be interested to know if it is the phone in general or specifically your phone.
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I have a feeling Clearwire LTE will arrive in Medford, as clear does operate the 2.5/2.6ghz (not sure which) but only that it was for pre-wimax devices and never got around to updated the towers to the newer wimax system due to money issues, but, at least once clearwire starts updating to LTE towers, just maybe they will remember this cities.
source: http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/entry-188-clearwire-is-abandoning-
Did verizon really get LTE out there? I wonder if its out near the brookhurst st high school area. I use to go out there a lot frequently as family lives there. Thanks for the information.
chuhsi said:
I know this question may only apply to me, but I've always wondered about the answer.
I've been in sprint for over 10 years and the epic touch is my 3rd android phone. No matter where I am in the country and what modem is have running on my phone, I've always had very poor reception.
I'm at the point of changing phones and providers because the issue is so bad.
Does sprint really still suck or is it my phone?
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
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You're holding it wrong.