[Q] Issues with stock power supply when charging from 10%? - Kindle Fire Accessories

Has anyone else had issues with the Amazon provided power supply?
I plug mine in to charge every night and I usually don't have issues with it. But then again, I usually have around 20-30% state of charge left.
However, twice in the last week, I have plugged in my KF with the battery below 10% and it doesn't charge at all - no LED light, Battery Monitor Widget still indicates that it is discharging. Other USB chargers that I have seem to work just fine even when it's in this state, but since they are much smaller (500mA) they don't charge as quickly either.
I sent them an email, but they replied saying that they want to actually talk to try some troubleshooting steps. I guess I'll write more after I call them.

Yes, I had a charging problem also. What I would do is nonlinear chat with Amazon and tell them your problem. I did this and they gave me a new one free.
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Something's draining my battery faster than it's charging

I have a dock at work that I place my phone onto every day as soon as I arrive. I noticed at about 11 AM today that my phone was showing 72% battery, even though it should have been fully charged when I left this morning at 9 and had been sitting on the charger since 9:30. More annoyingly, it seems to be staying at about that level--it's not moving up at all. If anything, it's continuing to lose charge even as the icon shows it's charging!
I took it to a Sprint store, where they unhelpfully suggested that I have too many apps installed that are draining the battery in the background. I manually stopped most of them, uninstalled some that I don't really use, and put it back on the charger. It's still not going anywhere. I turned the phone completely off for an hour and charged the thing, and it had gained about ten percent (that seems pitiful, but at least it's charging?). It's back on the charger, still not really moving anywhere.
So what are my options at this point? I've never calibrated the battery, so maybe I need to do that. Other than that all I can think is that either the battery is going bad (but I have a feeling Sprint is going to insist "It's still charging" if I take it back to them and refuse to give me another battery), or perhaps the dock is not supplying the right voltage and hence it's not charging fast enough to overtake the power consumption.
What's bugging me is that I haven't installed anything in the past week that should be affecting my power consumption like this. Last week I had plenty of apps installed with GPS and bluetooth always on, and as long as the phone was docked it would eventually reach 100%. Now I have pretty much everything off, several apps I usually have running turned off, and several more uninstalled (including Lookout Security), and the battery is barely making any headway. I keep the screen on to a desk clock (because that's the whole point of a freaking dock), but that alone shouldn't be draining it faster than it can charge.
Any suggestions?
Sounds to me like its not getting enough voltage. When you charge it at home does it charge reasonably fast?
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I never really monitor it, but I would say so, yeah. All I really check is that it's fully charged in the morning before I walk out the door.
The culprit might be my dock. It says it's designed specifically for the GSII but the cable itself looks to just be your standard USB-to-microUSB dock, other than a little bump at the bottom so that it's clearly aimed for bottom-charger phones like an iphone or SGSII. I suspect it might be supplying less voltage than the charger that came with the phone.
Is there anything I can look at (app or internal setting) that can tell me what kind of voltage the phone is receiving?
EDIT: Should also note that it's sitting on the dock now and it is at least making positive gains on the battery, albeit at maybe 1% every fifteen minutes. I really don't remember it being this slow before. Perhaps the dock's cable is cheap and is just crapping out over time.
USB charging is about half the speed of regular, wall socket charging. Invest in an OEM charger or one that has similar specs to an OEM one.
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do you have the dock connected to a USB port on a computer/laptop or wall outlet?
USB charges at 150mah while most ac adapters charge at between 750-1000mah.
Well, when I used the my generic LG USB cable it took about 5 hours to reach from 0% to about 40% while shut. So, I changed the cable and viola, charging to full in less than 3 hours while working on it.
So, it seems that the charger is bad quality. Try using the original cable (if possible) or may be the original charger plug.
I guess that's the only solution, because there is no way that the phone is discharging at a faster rate than charging, except when it is connected to an external display. This is the only thing that I encounter where the phone goes dead after a while despite it is connected to the charger...
Yeah, that dock is a POS. I'm not surprised it charges slow as balls too.
Amusingly, my phone has been running on the battery since leaving work for about four hours with the screen off, and it's only at 92%! I must have uninstalled whatever was draining it so quickly.
Thanks, guys.
If you think it's an application draining it, try better battery stats in the market. Might not be the problem but it does help.
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Well, when I used the my generic LG USB cable it took about 5 hours to reach from 0% to about 40% while shut. So, I changed the cable and viola, charging to full in less than 3 hours while working on it.
So, it seems that the charger is bad quality. Try using the original cable (if possible) or may be the original charger plug.
I guess that's the only solution, because there is no way that the phone is discharging at a faster rate than charging, except when it is connected to an external display. This is the only thing that I encounter where the phone goes dead after a while despite it is connected to the charger...
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That's right. Use Original cable came with your phone.
I've experienced same thing when I tried to charge my D710 over LG micro usb charger thru AC outlet. The charging indicator was showing flash but actually it was not charging or charging speed was not enough to follow the battery usage.
I charged the phone all the night but in the morning it was empty!
Charging through the original Samsung micro usb cable, it never failed. But charging thru LG micro usb failed couple of times.
You can easily check a couple of things -
try to connect micro usb cable to your PC and set the USB mass storage mode.
If we use LG micro usb over samsung phone, it's not perfectly fit and data communication frequently fails. More importantly, Don't even try to odin your phone using LG micro usb.
It's not the issue of charger. It's the cable issue.
Do not use LG Micro USB cable for data communication, but if you want to use for charging, be sure that you hear the connection sound from the phone. If there's no connection sound, the battery won't last long even battery charging status shows the flash.
Hope this help.

Anyone else having problems with extremely slow charging?

When I first got this phone I noticed it charged pretty slow. 5 hours to get to full from 0% but it then got a lot worse. Over night it would only charge from like 18% to 41 so I got a new charger and wall adapter and that seemed to fix it for a couple days but now it is charging slow again. From 70% to 100 it takes about 6-7 hours. Anyone else experiencing this?
The only time I've heard of that happening is when people fail to 'condition' their lithium battery properly before normal use.
In other words, upon getting your new phone, and/or battery, you're suppose to allow your battery to fully discharge and then fully recharge 3-5 times to condition your battery before plugging it back in half way through discharge.
It's usually what the carrier sales clerks are suppose to tell you when purchasing a new smartphone.
Here's a simple article on the subject:
http://www.ehow.com/how_4797458_condition-cell-phone-battery.html
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drewmonge said:
The only time I've heard of that happening is when people fail to 'condition' their lithium battery properly before normal use.
In other words, upon getting your new phone, and/or battery, you're suppose to allow your battery to fully discharge and then fully recharge 3-5 times to condition your battery before plugging it back in half way through discharge.
It's usually what the carrier sales clerks are suppose to tell you when purchasing a new smartphone.
Here's a simple article on the subject:
http://www.ehow.com/how_4797458_condition-cell-phone-battery.html
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I never had/has/have doing it. And I dont have battery issues.
I think the battery calibration/cycle..etc is just a myth.
Go to the store and check for warranty.
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Could it be a rouge app causing it to take so long to charge? I noticed today Google maps was using a lot more of the battery than usual. Almost as much as the screen. I tried force stopping but it just starts right back up again. Any ideas on how to fix the maps app? I have a feeling that is what is causing it.
I have this problem. It is very annoying and I have no idea what causes it. It doesn't happen all of the time though.
rbtrucking said:
Could it be a rouge app causing it to take so long to charge? I noticed today Google maps was using a lot more of the battery than usual. Almost as much as the screen. I tried force stopping but it just starts right back up again. Any ideas on how to fix the maps app? I have a feeling that is what is causing it.
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Just sounds like a bad install of something. I would do a factory reset through the stock recovery, and make sure to wipe dalvik cache.
My phone has started charging slowed as well, but mostly when connected to the computer. I made sure my usb ports were set to not allow the computer to shut them off to conserve power and it seems a bit faster. As far as charging and discharging ect ect I don't do that and never had a problem with slow charging and even the couple of times I tried it, the battery life never really improved. So think it is needed and some think it is a waste of time.
Charging via a computer USB port will always be slow when compared to the higher current capacity of the included AC charger. Computer USB ports have a lower current rating.
Make sure your using the charger that came with the phone, not all chargers are created equally.
There's also been some talk about the quality of USB cable being used, but I haven't found that myself yet.
Little bit of info...
I have tried numerous chargers while at work here (Technician) and there are some issues.
Samsung is funny on which chargers it accepts. Very funny.
1. Stardard charger that comes with the device will charge best. (Obvious I know) Using wall charger. (Full charge in 3.5 to 4 hours from 1%)
a. Using USB end plugged into PC while charging takes typically from my tests double the time to charge. (I'm guessing that data connection to PC is slowing the charge. (Full charge in 6 hours from 1%)
2. 3rd Party Generic charge cables (usb cable only) still charges device however stardard power draw is lower and does not charge in a decent time period.
a. Some 3rd Party usb cables plugged into a pc showed charging however they did not keep enough of a draw to actually charge my phone. I lost battery instead of gaining.
3. LG chargers did nothing for me. Couldn't get a decent charge.
Motorola chargers gave me the best charge besides the original.
Chargers with replacement tips... what can I say. They didn't seem like a good idea and weren't. I had too many issues and at times had some overheating issues. Luck of the draw me thinks.
3rd party wall chargers were hit or miss. A few did seem to give me a decent charge, others gave me a very slow trickle charge taking anywhere up to 8-9 hours for a full charge from 1%
All in all... it's a crap shoot using 3rd party cables. It's all based on voltage output and Samsung likes to change things alot. You will still get a charge but who knows the length of time it will take.
Oh and car chargers... typically only good for keeping it at the same level you plugged it in at for short drives. Long drives obviously work much better.
Hope this helps.
About charging: I have noticed that micro USB cable that come with S3 is really bad - it is loosing a connection to PC,and, beside that, I have noticed several times slow phone charge... Accidentally went to settings- battery - when I was on AC charger and saw in settings that phone is actually charging in USB mode!!! Wtf??? Disconnect usb from bottom end (at charger side) and reconnect and then on phone says " charging - AC" ... So,conclusion is that you check your phone charging status when you put on charger,maybe it is charging in USB mode and because of that phone is charging slower than it should on regular AC power.
The only battery issue that i have noticed is when i use my computer to charge it takes forever but when i use the factory wall plug and cable it charges quickly with no issues
Excellent post supercholo. Really helpful. I was starting to think my phone was broken.
Anyone got any experience with using an ipad charger on an sIII. I know an ipad wants a lot of power to charge.
FYI These are the voltages listed on my chargers;
Apple ipad1 charger 5.1v 2.1a
SAMSUNG s3 wall charger 5v 1a
Samsung Galaxy i9000 wall charge 5v .7a
supercholo said:
Little bit of info...
I have tried numerous chargers while at work here (Technician) and there are some issues.
Samsung is funny on which chargers it accepts. Very funny.
1. Stardard charger that comes with the device will charge best. (Obvious I know) Using wall charger. (Full charge in 3.5 to 4 hours from 1%)
a. Using USB end plugged into PC while charging takes typically from my tests double the time to charge. (I'm guessing that data connection to PC is slowing the charge. (Full charge in 6 hours from 1%)
2. 3rd Party Generic charge cables (usb cable only) still charges device however stardard power draw is lower and does not charge in a decent time period.
a. Some 3rd Party usb cables plugged into a pc showed charging however they did not keep enough of a draw to actually charge my phone. I lost battery instead of gaining.
3. LG chargers did nothing for me. Couldn't get a decent charge.
Motorola chargers gave me the best charge besides the original.
Chargers with replacement tips... what can I say. They didn't seem like a good idea and weren't. I had too many issues and at times had some overheating issues. Luck of the draw me thinks.
3rd party wall chargers were hit or miss. A few did seem to give me a decent charge, others gave me a very slow trickle charge taking anywhere up to 8-9 hours for a full charge from 1%
All in all... it's a crap shoot using 3rd party cables. It's all based on voltage output and Samsung likes to change things alot. You will still get a charge but who knows the length of time it will take.
Oh and car chargers... typically only good for keeping it at the same level you plugged it in at for short drives. Long drives obviously work much better.
Hope this helps.
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Very slow charging with OEM charger.. i9300
This is a fact. The OEM wall charger surely has some issues. Though 1amp output, as claimed on th specs chart, my i9300 charges super slow. From 80% to 100%, it takes nearly 3 hours.
So, i switched chargers and used my S2 and Note OEM wall chargers. And voila, the phone charges super fast. I even ordered a new OEM charger for s3 with the data cable included and the same issue occured.
This has worsened ever since the JB update. So I am now using the S2 charger and very satisfied.
SWTICH OVER GUYS!! OEM charger is useless,,,
I have had my phone on USB to computer charging for 7 hours, with a one hour break to watch Dexter. I was at 18% and I am now at 69%. I think I will have to use the wall adapter because this is just ridiculous.
Usb to pc will always be slow buddy. It outputs 500ma while d wall charger is 1 amp
I found my Usb cable faulty. Sent for replacement.
Cheers
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Without reading all the post. I have had this same problem. Took phone to sprint, they tested the battery and it was bad. Got a new one and good to go..

Charging issue.

I have had this problem in all of the 5 or 6 roms I have tried. It charges fine but only when screen is off. If I turn the screen on the charging stops..... sort of.... sometimes it comes back on but then off again after a few seconds. If it is in fact charging and just not charging it.... it doesn't seem this way but maybe believable. Anything I should try/change or just the way it is. The good thing is that I only use this at night for a couple hours but on long trips it would be nice to plug it into a car charger of some type and charge and use at the same time. Thanks in advance.
carma42 said:
I have had this problem in all of the 5 or 6 roms I have tried. It charges fine but only when screen is off. If I turn the screen on the charging stops..... sort of.... sometimes it comes back on but then off again after a few seconds. If it is in fact charging and just not charging it.... it doesn't seem this way but maybe believable. Anything I should try/change or just the way it is. The good thing is that I only use this at night for a couple hours but on long trips it would be nice to plug it into a car charger of some type and charge and use at the same time. Thanks in advance.
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What type of charger are you using? The original kindle charger or something else?
Reason i ask is that the kindle requires more than the "average" amperage charger to charge properly.
Also, have you checked your settings option? Go into settings and to the battery option. See if it's indicating charging there.
Lastly, I have noticed that if my kindle fire is about 50% I can use almost any charger to charge it. If it dips below that percent, I need to use the original factory charger.
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What type of charger are you using? The original kindle charger or something else?
Reason i ask is that the kindle requires more than the "average" amperage charger to charge properly.
Also, have you checked your settings option? Go into settings and to the battery option. See if it's indicating charging there.
Lastly, I have noticed that if my kindle fire is about 50% I can use almost any charger to charge it. If it dips below that percent, I need to use the original factory charger.
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I use the original and another charger and the same thing happens. This is at any percentage.
Seems as though as long as I am on the usb wall charger I can charge and use at the same time but no other charging methods will allow that.
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[Q] Charging issues - CM10.1

I currently have the CM10.1-M3 build from 4/17/13 installed.
For a long while, I have been having major issues charging my Captivate Glide.
My original battery died. It was bloated. I called AT+T and they sent me a replacement. I also bought two high capacity batteries.
If I leave the phone charging about half the time little or no progress is made charging. Lat night I charged the phone for over 8 hours and the charge went from 10% to 14%.
Other times I will wake up after charging it all night and it will say fully charged, but then the instant it is unplugged from the charger, it will drop down from 100% to 20% or less.
Then once every 3 or 4 days it will actually fully charge. But even in that case the charging is slow at best.
I did a full wipe and re-flashed last night and nothing changed. I have tried charging in airplane mode, but that seems to make it worse. I have had a little tiny bit of success turning mobile data off, but otherwise I have tried everything I could think of with no luck.
Has anyone else experienced similar issues, or have any suggestions? Is this a case where I might need to replace the phone entirely?
jacobym1 said:
I currently have the CM10.1-M3 build from 4/17/13 installed.
Has anyone else experienced similar issues, or have any suggestions? Is this a case where I might need to replace the phone entirely?
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I did notice a lot longer charge time when hooked up to USB on computer, on my car charger and hooked up to AC I seem to get a lot quicker charge...
What charger are you using?
yohan4ws said:
I did notice a lot longer charge time when hooked up to USB on computer, on my car charger and hooked up to AC I seem to get a lot quicker charge...
What charger are you using?
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I have tried a few different chargers. I mostly use a 2.1amp wall charger. I also have a 1 amp wall charger, and a 1 amp car charger. I have tried about 3 different car chargers.
I am really suspicious that the micro-usb port on the phone went bad and that I will need to get the phone replaced.
Charging with AC is gonna be alot faster then with DC. But as far as it being the rom I don't see tthat.. sounds like possibly a loose wire or bad connection when u lay ur phone down
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phatryan has a point, do a nandroid backup, flash to stock and see if the charging makes a difference..
Charging
Hello,
When I charge my Captivate Glide with phone powered up plugged in to the wall, using the supplied wall charger, I've noticed that the battery seems to drain quicker. This is with the original battery, I will be getting an extended battery for my phone. If I power the phone down then charge it in to the wall it charges quickly and seems to take longer draining. This does not happen when charging with the PC.
tech927
jacobym1 said:
I currently have the CM10.1-M3 build from 4/17/13 installed.
For a long while, I have been having major issues charging my Captivate Glide.
My original battery died. It was bloated. I called AT+T and they sent me a replacement. I also bought two high capacity batteries.
If I leave the phone charging about half the time little or no progress is made charging. Lat night I charged the phone for over 8 hours and the charge went from 10% to 14%.
Other times I will wake up after charging it all night and it will say fully charged, but then the instant it is unplugged from the charger, it will drop down from 100% to 20% or less.
Then once every 3 or 4 days it will actually fully charge. But even in that case the charging is slow at best.
I did a full wipe and re-flashed last night and nothing changed. I have tried charging in airplane mode, but that seems to make it worse. I have had a little tiny bit of success turning mobile data off, but otherwise I have tried everything I could think of with no luck.
Has anyone else experienced similar issues, or have any suggestions? Is this a case where I might need to replace the phone entirely?
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Bloated battery could just be bad - but it could also be due to overcharging. That's not going to happen unless there is a serious problem with your phone, or possibly a problem with the contacts leading to an incorrect voltage reading. This also may explain your problems charging and sudden jumps in charge %.
Clean your contacts well on the battery side and phone side with a pencil eraser, rubbing alcohol, etc.
I notice a big difference with whatever kernel is shipping with the current M3 cm10.1 build between a 500ma charger and 2amp charger, so I imagine the kernel is set for a 750ma or 1amp charge.

Battery draining while charging.

Hi XDA users,
I'm having some more issues with my N7 2013 I use my tablet mostly for watching youtube in the evening but my battery is like 20% most of the time so I plug it in and start watching youtube. But I've noticed that after half an hour the battery was 10%, the battery seems to be draining whilst plugged in! It happens every now and then sometimes it charges just fine, I've tried different chargers and cables but it doesn't affect it. The battery seems to be dropping 1 to 2% every 5 minutes and it'll eventually turn off and turn back on right after when it turns back on the loop continues, it works for another 10 minutes then it shuts off again! Of course if I leave it alone it will charge just fine but it's still weird that it discharges even though it's plugged in while in use. Even listening to music causes it to drain. I'm using a 5v @ 2amp charger so I assume that's not the problem. (I've also tried a bunch of 1 amp chargers but it has the same effect) I'm running screw'd android (5.0.2) and the only things that seem to be draining the battery are Youtube(22%) and the screen(18%) the rest is all 1 or 2%! Yes I've tried flashing ROM's and the issue does go away but it comes back after like a week or so.
Does anyone know what the problem is?
thanks,
noahvt
You're likely drawing more power than you're putting in. I believe the stock charger charges at 1500 or 1700 mAh, which should work to charge it while you're using it.
If you are using charger from another device charges more slowly like 500mAh or even 1000mAh, it may not be able to keep up.
I'm using a 2000mAh asus charger from my old TF300T and if I'm pulling more current than that charger can supply I don't know what the thing is doing
noahvt said:
I'm using a 2000mAh asus charger from my old TF300T and if I'm pulling more current than that charger can supply I don't know what the thing is doing
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I think your device has some issues with battery.If you are still in warranty period,get it back to stock condition & contact the support
My wife has the same problem.. She has to turn her screen off, in order for the battery to charge.. If she doesn't, it keeps running the battery down.. Try turning the screen off, and check it after 15 minutes. You may be pleasantly surprised.. Hope this helps you out..

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