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Pics of the HD Entertainment Center / Webtop Access Kit

Fyi,
Some pics on a 19inch 720p extra monitor I had to test out the kit that arrived today. Here are some Pics.
It includes
Remote control for media
Bluetooth Keyboard
Bluetooth Mouse
Docking Station w/ usb ports (Perfect for external 1tb hdd w/ media)
*Next test is the 46"LED TV (when the wife is done... *sigh*)
The worlds most powerful smartphone, streaming Pandora, surfing the web, a little facebook, some XDA, and speedtest.net (I tried to install Chrome, #fail )
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PS.. I have the body glove case, and you have to remove it for the dock.
killster

Looks like a nice setup. How long does it take the actual webtop to become usable?

loztboy said:
Looks like a nice setup. How long does it take the actual webtop to become usable?
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when you dock the phone, it does its "little" thing and you are at a usable desktop in about 30-45 seconds.
Killster

Mobile Viewe
Is there a way to get just the Mobile Viewer part on my computer when i connect the USB?
I want to be able to control my phone through my computer, I dont need the rest of the webtop stuff.

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Is there a way to get just the Mobile Viewer part on my computer when i connect the USB?
I want to be able to control my phone through my computer, I dont need the rest of the webtop stuff.
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Me too -- the normal apps that I've used in the past to control via VNC or web don't seem to work with the Atrix :/

Nice pics, they came out good. I couldn't get a good angle without reflection for pics of mine..Heres my unboxing and small demo of the entertainment pkg.. I got it for 161.99 at amazon and it came with the multimedia dock, bt keyboard and mouse, and remote... I didnt want to start a new thread since I saw yours..
Heres my vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfnduazUEHs

Whats the highest resolution it supports? I have a 2650x1600 monitor and am worried it will look bad with the dock.

Thanks for the pics
How is the experience with the keyboard and mouse? Is it like using a regular computer if you are on wifi? Is the mouse smooth and not laggy?
I did the webtop mod and used my flat panel..it was viewable but using the phone keyboard/mouse just didn't work well. I also tried a Logitech DiNovo mini but the keyboard was too small and the n and 1 keys worked only some of the time. I am thinking about springing for the bundle like you did.
Thanks,
Ron

@ash dog check out this link for the resolution specs for it...
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/63272/~/webtop---display-resolutions
@rpolansky it is very smooth on both the keyboard and mouse end, the only thing I found to ever have lag is the built in webtop firefox browser. But that has nothing to do with the accessories.. when i use the mouse and keyboard for games or text messaging, I have yet to have a lag..

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@ash dog check out this link for the resolution specs for it...
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/63272/~/webtop---display-resolutions
@rpolansky it is very smooth on both the keyboard and mouse end, the only thing I found to ever have lag is the built in webtop firefox browser. But that has nothing to do with the accessories.. when i use the mouse and keyboard for games or text messaging, I have yet to have a lag..
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Thank you, sir! That made my mind up I am going to order it...
Ron

Thanks for the info on the rez!
I'm leaning toward the lapdock now.

ashdog said:
Thanks for the info on the rez!
I'm leaning toward the lapdock now.
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No problem....yeah the lap dock looks awesome but I won't pay that price. I would pay 250$ tops..I'm sure it will come down
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Digital Tv Tuner?

Anyone know if this is possible?
Basically I want to watch live tv on my xoom. I want to pull the signal straight from the airwaves and not use 3g or wifi etc. Anyone know any device that would do this for me? Basically something I could just plug-in and be able to watch live tv?

First, you'll need a tuner (mini PCI-E or USB) Then you'll need drivers to use that tuner, possible that a major tuner mfg could write them but then Google or a dev will need to build them into a distro. Finally, you need an app that can interpret the data received from the tuner.
The likelihood of all of these things coming together is unlikely due to the small market for such a tuner. I, personally, would love it.

TV on Xoom
I realize this is not the config you are looking for, but I purchased a DVR like box called a Vulkano made by Monsoon and basically it goes between your TV and the Cable box (and to your router). It then provides a feed to an app for android (free and/or paid) and tt literally controls your cable box remotely, and you can watch live TV, your saved shows, setup recordings, record to your device, etc.
I've tested on my Evo, Xoom, and A7, which all work.
However, the recent update to 3.1 caused the Xoom version to not work anymore, but the developers said a fix is coming soon.
While I was on 3.0 the HD channels on the Xoom were F-ing sweet!
The box was about $150, but there are multiple versions, and I bought this on a whim hoping it would just do DVR type functions, but went well beyond that.
I've run it over wifi, 3g, and tethered to 3g, and all have worked very well.
Again, maybe not the config you want, but this is nothing short of AWESOME!!

isnt that kind of like "slingbox" and how did you get it to work with 3g?

TV on Xoom
Pretty much exactly like Slingbox (I think, never used it), just cheaper and they have a free App for Android and Apple. There's a paid App version, but didn't bother since the freebie worked good for me. I use it on my Evo and eLocity A7 all the time via 3g and/or Tether. And until the HC 3.1 update I was able to use it on my Xoom via 3g. If you get a good signal or go wifi it will stream in HD, and looks killer on the Xoom. But alas, the developer needs to update it for HC 3.1, impatiently waiting for that!
Also I found that if you record thru the App, it stores it locally on whatever device you are using. I often use it on my PC, and then save it to my NAS drive for remote access later.
Like I said before, I was trying this out as a maybe option, and was totally stoked at what I got for $150, I think the slingbox doesn't quite do all this, and costs like twice as much for the Pro, and you still have to pay $25 for their App.
There is also 6 versions of the hardware to fit your budget and needs.

here you go, pick a channel and watch.
http://www.mobiletv.net

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here you go, pick a channel and watch.
http://www.mobiletv.net
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nice find. Not exactly what I was looking for.
I am looking for a dtv tuner that connects to the xoom. If anyone figures this out please post.

They had talked about a version of the Samsung Moment that would do this, not sure if it ever came state side or not. But that could take care of the tuner software side, then you would need a device and a driver, I remember having a winTV device at one point in time that worked in ubuntu with out any extra work...so there's definitely linux support for the type of device.
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Live T.V
hey if there is any developers out there .. could you possibly try to get this to work for Xoom? I use to have an archos, and I was able to put live t.v on it .. but the system was modified for it, using URUKDROID.. I'm just wondering if we can just extract the drivers and use the T.V app that comes with this installation???
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871391

Theres a blank header inside my UK3G Xoom, I'd love to get TV on the go, either by sticking a card in or perhaps hardwiring something to a USB header inside the device?

this?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Elgato-Tivi...0FBK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1330198622&sr=8-1
I'd love to get comments from anyone who has one on android.

pctv broadway 2T wifi and internet, great quality dvb

I own an old dreambox 500. It can stream live satelite signal . Also videos,mp3, remote pvr.etc. it didnt cost me more than 60 dlls. Ita not illegal if you put your smart tv card in this reciever. I can watch my tv since android 2.1 via stream and my xoom can run them without delay. Im trying to buy a dm800 or dm500hd i hear the stream is much smooth

This thread is on my radar. Low priority but on my radar nonetheless.

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This thread is on my radar. Low priority but on my radar nonetheless.
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That, is awesome...
Have some sauce..
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Does any ROM support USB host mode?

Hello anyone,
I just recieved a lovely FiiO E17 Alpen DAC & Headphone Amplifier which can act as a portable USB external soundcard for an android smartphone but only if the ROM supports USB host mode.
I have searched and found nothing. I would love to find a compatable rom for my desire HD.
Does anyone have any ideas or suggestions?
I will update this thread if I find anything.
Cheers

According to this it doesn't seem that any such rom exists. There were some attempts to make a working kernel but they seem to have failed. So there's no rom, i think.

Thanks for the reply Slavon-93.
Yes - it seems like USB Host implementation is close but no cigar.
When it does come along its going to be great - not just for music but for all the other USB devices that will be able to integrate with our smartphones

I would pay for that...
my tablet is ush host with dual boot Ubuntu and since our dhd are powerful enough to run linux it would be nice to have it!
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Agreed - I would pay also!

audio out
It works with Nook color and CM7 nightly.
http://www.head-fi.org/t/571944/ot-digital-out-on-android-phone/15
My Fiio E17 is arriving within the next days - I would be very happy if this will work. If not, it could be a reason to change the phone - or buy a Nook..

Just wait because somebody is making a kernel for OTG feature
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Thanks tessut
That's great to hear. Is this the kernel you referred to?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1518896

That kernel looks very promising. Apparently other issues have higher priority, so we probably need to be a bit patient about our issue

henrylar said:
It works with Nook color and CM7 nightly.
http://www.head-fi.org/t/571944/ot-digital-out-on-android-phone/15
My Fiio E17 is arriving within the next days - I would be very happy if this will work. If not, it could be a reason to change the phone - or buy a Nook..
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Hi.
I'm very interested to see if this works for you. Not only the amp but also the dac. I'm planning on getting the Fiio E17 too and this would be a major boost if it worked.

I will, but it might take a bit of time. First of all we need a kernel that supports the function, which seems more promising now apparently. But I will report as soon as possible.

henrylar said:
I will, but it might take a bit of time. First of all we need a kernel that supports the function, which seems more promising now apparently. But I will report as soon as possible.
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I've read that CM7 supported it. Or is that function not implemented for the DHD in CM7?

I thought the same, but it is a kernel issue, and if you follow the link in one of the first mails in this thread you can see how things were - until now where work is going on about a new kernel. OTG is not working yet, apparently, and it does not have first priority, but still, the foresight is much better than before..

Mayx I refresh that request?
Does anyone know of any rom/kernel? Preferrably 4.1....could someone with more knowledge shed some light on the issue why this seems to be such a problem? I'm sure there is a good reason I just like to understand it a bit better
It has been done with an old kernel so the device should be capable...and Android itself supports it, so the system should be capable as well.

I've mentioned this topic to certain developers but it seems no devs are particularity interested in getting this working on the DHD.

svhd rom support usb host mod with Mouse/Keyboard/Gamepad/Storage Device
[GUIDE]How To Use USB HOST
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...4#post39500954

not only svhd host mode working... i tried on PACMAN rom and its working when kernel tuner is downloaded from play store.. it is working the same way like on svhd.. still i dont know how it works with hdd's

gerciolisz said:
not only svhd host mode working... i tried on PACMAN rom and its working when kernel tuner is downloaded from play store.. it is working the same way like on svhd.. still i dont know how it works with hdd's
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PACMAN rom host mode work for you ??
i try to connect to host mode in svhd rom but i can't if you can help me so do it please !!!
this is my connectors picture :fingers-crossed:
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Yep it worked but usb mass storage dont work on pc now XD i dwnloaded kernel tuner and did the same operation like on svhd..
It seems i have little bit other connection. I have OTG cable connected to usb hub with 4 inputs to first i've plugged mouse to second
Connected charger but i had to buy a usb cable which have 2 same male plugs, one goes to charger one to hub.
Ill post photo later

Interesting, hear about this a while back but never expected it to work so soon. The adapter makes sense, DHD can't deliver that power to a external device

A good mini BT keyboard with trackpad UK layout?

Have been struggling to find a decent mini keyboard with trackpad and UK layout. Anybody got good suggestions?

I'm waiting for this one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/280894176961?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
I will let you know if its worth it. My main purpose it's to link the S3 with my TV by an MHL HDMI cable, and control it in the sofa.
Another alternative, if you want to use it with a mouse:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/110927748012?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Or:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/160832382759?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Another
http://www.ebay.com/itm/360479170092?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Interesting, but a little pricey:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/380453969866?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
I didn't use any of the above. The second ones was a alternative that I considered.
Good luck.

Hi Bruno, the OP is looking for a UK layout keyboard, as am I. The ones you pointed to are all US layouts. The UK layout has the £ sign over the 3 rather than #. It also has an extra key to the left of Z for the \.
I too am looking for a reasonably priced UK layout keyboard but the only ones I've found are pricey. Probably because there are so few of them!

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Thank for your replies guys. I ended up with the Logitech diNovo Mini UK layout. I also have a MHL HDMI cable in the post. Got a 64GB MicroSD in NTFS on the phone so main use is play music and films when I am out at friends' without having to carry my laptop or get up from the sofa every time I need to pause or something. Considered the Allshare Cast Dongle but I am using CM10 ROM so no Samsung apps and I would generic set ups so everything would still work when I upgrade in the future.
Using External Keyboard Helper Pro app I've assigned the Record key to Home, and left Windows key to Menu. ESC works as BACK anyway. All the media keys work. All the keys are mapped correctly. All the FN keys on the main keyboard works. Media Center key opens Apollo, Explorer goes to Home which have yet to figure out how to assign to Chrome, PC Power key turns screen off. The Zoom keys have been assigned but are not working. CTRL+ALT+DEL shuts phone off. Bonus of the app is you can set SHIFT/CTRL/ALT memory so you don't have to use both hands.
This is by no means a cheap set up but it has everything I need in a tiny and portable package.

Kruzkal said:
... . I also have a MHL HDMI cable in the post. ... but I am using CM10 ROM
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about that:
http://teamhacksung.org/wiki/index.php/CyanogenMod10:GT-I9300:Nightly:Known_issues

shamez23 said:
about that:
http://teamhacksung.org/wiki/index.php/CyanogenMod10:GT-I9300:Nightly:Known_issues
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Oh penis! That means I am going to have to back up all my apps and move to a Samsung based ROM... D'oh!

That's how I read it.
Wanted to get a Cyanogenmod ROM myself but after reading about the lack of MHL I'm not so sure anymore. After all I mainly used an CM ROM on my HD2 because of some of the functions that Samsung has in it's ROMs. I guess I can live with a rooted but otherwise stock SGS3.

All backed up! Going to give this Omega ROM a go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1663656
All the Samsung Apps are there so should work.
Wish me luck...

I would be kind of surprised if they could do what the CM team can't.
Would be nice though. The ROM sounds pretty interesting to me.
Keep me posted.

So far I can confirm exFAT works on it (had to use NTFS work round on CM), all Samsung apps are present including Allshare. I have read reports that it works although my cable has yet to arrive so will let you know when that arrives.

I can confirm that everything works on Omega ROM as intended. Although the phone charger doesn't have enough juice to run the cable so a more powerful charger is needed.
Allshare Cast Dongle also works perfectly. I am able to stream 1080p with no lag. I also have a NAS, streaming from NAS to TV via phone I managed 720p with no lag. I will have to do some serious tweaking to see if I can get 1080p to run smoothly from the NAS.

[Q] Samsung Note 8 AT&T - Trouble Rooting

I am having some trouble rooting my Note 8.0, using the following thread's directions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291839
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The best Note 8.0 rooter
Saferoot.zip Look for it in the forums. It is simple and does not require Odin. Just connect to USB and run the batch file.

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Saferoot.zip Look for it in the forums. It is simple and does not require Odin. Just connect to USB and run the batch file.
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Just did it.
Can I put a custom ROM on this thing now? I'd really like to try PAC ROM. I definitely want 4.4.2 on it.

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Just did it.
Can I put a custom ROM on this thing now? I'd really like to try PAC ROM. I definitely want 4.4.2 on it.
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Nope! A no go with custom ROMs.
ATT Note 8.0 has locked boot loader and will brick if you install an unsigned ROM.

This is very disappointing... So I'm stuck?
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IMO the samsung ROM is good. Just a wee behind. One thing you have on your side is rooting.
Once rooted, you can use framework mods to enhance the features.
I tested Civato's ROM and Kernel. Found it good but lacks supporting 64GB SD cards with Exfat.
Had way too many issues with Fat32 to call it worth while. Speed was good, but I realized after letting myself get use to the OEM ROM, there was not much difference.
If anything I recommend getting Solid Explorer Pro and Titanium Backup Pro..., they are worth their price on Google.
I removed all the apps that I can get on Google Play most of them are Google apps, but there is a few that you can obtain.
Once I removed all the Google apps... kept play store, I installed what I wanted. Don't bother with Google Music Player, it will run even when you reboot.
I kept Samsung Keyboard, and found it better than SwiftKey and Swipe Keyboard. As it has quite a bit of features you would not expect in a stock keyboard.
Setup my voice and language to be Ivona UK Welsh English, it is the best sounding of the English language. Google is setup to be the voice recognition.
My Samsung voice will be Ivona, and any Google voice in Google Now will be Google.
I setup a number of things with the framework mods, so it will take some time booting to completely load HD Widgets, if you choose to go that route.
Once ATT releases 4.4.3 in April, I may hold off until Xposed Framework gets a major overhall for 4.4.x.
I recommend the non framework version of Ghost Hide Root, with plugin. There is a framework version, but it does not work well with Samsung ROM.
Startup manager also is a good framework app, but there is a paid app that goes even further... I kept the Xposed app because it was smaller.
Don't bother with Power / battery apps... they tend to hog memory, and don't do much better than having your tablet do power saving mode when browsing or reading.
I keep WIFI and Power save mode on all the time. Yet to find a real issue with speed. Able to watch streamed movies and Miracast without hicups.
Oh by the way... I dropped Greenify as well.. seems to take up a lot of memory. I just stop some apps that allow not to be started during boot. Be careful, as some are part of the OS. I stopped All email apps, this way when I am wanting email I just open them. Also you can manually sync if you chose to. Though it can be annoying if you open mail for the first part of the day and find 40 emails waiting. On vibrate or notification sound it can be a bit annoying.