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Rooting with Visonary 14 killed me phone

I didnt think this was possible but I think I bricked my phone by using Visionary and permroot.
I clicked on the permroot, the icon went on, rebooted and got stuck at the HTC green screen.
After pulling the battery;
I tried doing a factory reset, nothing.
I tried a stock image of tmobile, nothing (at least I think I did this right)
ADB doesnt recognize the device in windows
I have only seen a red triangle and exclamation point after trying several posts suggestions.
I'm stuck on what to do, and have a replacement coming, but not soon enough.
Can I do anything with this? Like get the original Tmobile image back on? If so, how? I'm not the brightest bulb when it comes to this, as the g1 was so much easier. A bit of instructions would be great.
Thank you!

People have been warned about visionary's high chance of bricking over and over again and that they should just use the rage method but they can't seem to get it.
Also: you do realize that the nand lock was to prevent this exact thing: people bricking their phones then returning them hoping to get them replaced. If it doesn't get replaced then you full well deserve it for not reading the countless posts about people bricking their phones using visionary.
First off: are you s-off?
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 running Cyanogenmod.

You didn't read the post which said you should not try to install the stock rom?
fastludeh22 said:
Ok mods, I know this normally isn't the place, but I think this is very important as I'm seeing more and more semi bricks, some of which are not recoverable without HTC signing keys!
So I ask you mods, please don't lock this, if anything it really needs to be a sticky!
That being said, if you are s-off, do NOT flash the signed offical PC10IMG.zip. if you don't have the correct rom on there when you do, as per the unroot thread you will get stuck.
Let me give u an example of what I've been seeing and why its happening so everyone understands. Example: you perm root/s-off your phone. You decide to do some rom playing. You end up boot looping and can't fully boot into android. So u say hey, ill reload pc10 and start over, WRONG.
What happens is s-off does no checks, sigs, version number etc. So when you load it up it starts to flash. Hboot(s-on) is first, then recovery, then radio. Thing is it has to reboot to do radio, so it reboots, at this point your s-on so it does a version check. "Main is older" then it quits before ever touching the system.img or boot.img. at this point you are locked. You have s-on, stock recovery, and can't boot android. Long story short, your screwed.
Now depending on the rom/kernel u had/have installed you may have adb access. At this point you have a small chance of recovering, which is better then some. I just spent the last 5 hours working with someone on a fix and think we got it, but the bat has died and will have to pick back up tomo. If this works or not, I also have one more idea we can try. I will update OP with any fixes we find.
*If your system was bootable when you started this, it may still boot. but you will be s-on, stock recovery, and still on whatever rom you were running. at this point you will have to hex edit to downgrade, or wpthis.ko if there is one for your kernel to get back to s-off.
*ive seen some people saying. i did it, it worked for me, but don't add any supporting info. this is bad for people new to android cause it makes them feel they will be ok. the only way this can work is if you have a version installed as old or older then the official img, or if you take hboot out of the update which then makes it no longer the official update. but my question is why are you flashing this? if you want to fully unroot, then follow the unroot guide. if you just want to go back to stock w/root, grab one of the stock w/root roms.
Long story short, do your rom flashing from recovery. Stay out of hboot unless you are following proven instructions to a T, or being walked though be a "pro". I hope this helps save some people!
* if you just read all this going DAMN, i already did that, then go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=842495
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@ddgarcia05 - that should be ok if he wasn't at S-OFF with the eng hboot though, which I don't believe that Visionary applies.

ibemad1 said:
People have been warned about visionary's high chance of bricking over and over again and that they should just use the rage method but they can't seem to get it.
Also: you do realize that the nand lock was to prevent this exact thing: people bricking their phones then returning them hoping to get them replaced. If it doesn't get replaced then you full well deserve it for not reading the countless posts about people bricking their phones using visionary.
First off: are you s-off?
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 running Cyanogenmod.
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I checked and it said S-On and this was in recovery

ddgarcia05 said:
You didn't read the post which said you should not try to install the stock rom?
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ADB doesnt recognize the device in windows and this was also in recovery

Anyone? Bueller?

cwis said:
ADB doesnt recognize the device in windows and this was also in recovery
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Check out the adb guide at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865685
If you install the HTC Sync software, as mentioned in that guide, that should give you the drivers that you need.

This looks bad. Being that you're new. this can be very bad.
You have three choices:
1: study each thread about Bricking G2.
2:find a more experienced person to help you unbrick your phone.
3:find a very strong magnet and place it on your phone leave it there for an hour and bring it back.

[q] help the needy!

Well, i recently bought a desire hd(shifted from windows mobile), well i am rather scared to brick my device, so i would really appreciate if someone could direct me into the correct path of flashing my phone with cyanogen's Roms, at the moment, i have done reading, but i still have doubts and i cant really digest all the information given out there in certain threads, so please do help me! Thank You.

I would follow the Cyanogenmod wiki for completeness, this will taje you by the hand from stock to CM goodness

well, thank you, but i have a question, i have already rooted my phone using visionary, so i must i still root it using the method in the wiki?

That CM method is manual, and very complicated compared to the methods in this forum. You do not need to root using RATC when you have Visionary.

Ok, so yeah I have rooted with visionary, so in the wiki it mention that installing engineering hboot isn't necessary. So should I skip that step? Do I need to flash a new radio in order to flash cynogen mod? I am sorry for asking ridiculous questions. But I am rather worried to brick my beauty.
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simmarjit said:
Ok, so yeah I have rooted with visionary, so in the wiki it mention that installing engineering hboot isn't necessary. So should I skip that step? Do I need to flash a new radio in order to flash cynogen mod? I am sorry for asking ridiculous questions. But I am rather worried to brick my beauty.
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I personally would recommend flashing the hboot and also Radio S-OFF'ing, and I would recommend flashing the latest radio as it seems to improve battery life.
The reason I recommend the manual CM method is not every one has access to windows machines which many of the one click tools require,.

confusing, i am sorry, really and truly am, i am a noob with 0 knowledge on this, but i have flashed around with windows mobile though, please do help me, just guide me, small baby steps would do, spare me some of you time. Please and thank you,.

Can't s-off alpharev

Hi guys I'm trying to s-off using alpharev ISO disc...it goes through the process then after rebooting stage 3 I get 4 lines that say unary operator expected ... I shut down pc and phone boots as usual...
I'm running rxmix s v1.1

maybe change to stock ROM and try s-off again

Yes like the post above switch to a ROOTED stock froyo rom worked for me, the reason your getting errors is because the rom you are running has probably got data2whatever, data++ ect... this affects the alpha rev process.

Ditto above. Alpharev doesn't work on a2sd or similar ROMs... Look back a couple pages and you'll see I started a thread with the same issue. I'm on IC GB a2sd+...
Once pc is repaired, I plan to load stock Telstra RUU and try again, then re-root...

bailz2506 said:
Hi guys I'm trying to s-off using alpharev ISO disc...it goes through the process then after rebooting stage 3 I get 4 lines that say unary operator expected ... I shut down pc and phone boots as usual...
I'm running rxmix s v1.1
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First, you better use USB stick instead of a disc, it is faster a more reliable.
Secondly, you won't be able to get s-off unless you flash either stock rom or AOSP rom ( oxygen worked for me without any problems).

mikeraul said:
First, you better use USB stick instead of a disc, it is faster a more reliable.
Secondly, you won't be able to get s-off unless you flash either stock rom or AOSP rom ( oxygen worked for me without any problems).
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+1, I s-off my phone with oxygen running on it.

ThaNx everyone for the help will try it that way and let you all no if it worked
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thanks everyone for the help it worked fine now i have fully rooted and s-offed htc desire...now to get back into the flashing fun.
When the moderator reads this i have no problems if this thread is deleted thanks again

bailz2506 said:
thanks everyone for the help it worked fine now i have fully rooted and s-offed htc desire...now to get back into the flashing fun.
When the moderator reads this i have no problems if this thread is deleted thanks again
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Happy to hear

Hi folks. Writing this without any hope that someone is online at the moment.
I'm currently using alpharev to flash HBOOT on my htc desire. It has stucked on step 3 with two lines on phone's screen:
Aplharev SPLBOOT version 2.0
...
Normal NAND detected. Non-PVT4
and keeps hanging like that nearly an hour already.
The phone is rooted, with Clockworkmod recovery and InserCoin 2.0.1 DATA2EXT ROM installed.
Did anybody have the same behaviour while flashing HBOOT?
Should I be patient and wait for some miracle to happen?
thanks in advance.

Are you S-Off already??

use the new S-OFF utility. It's a lot quicker and easier. Just make sure you uninstall HTC Sync, or at least make sure it isn't running.

777ace said:
Are you S-Off already??
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no...
just saw here an advice to wait for a long term and the to pull out the battery and reboot.
did as he said.
device is rebooting in fastboot mode...
will try to restore previous ROM from recovery mode...

n0vice said:
no...
just saw here an advice to wait for a long term and the to pull out the battery and reboot.
did as he said.
device is rebooting in fastboot mode...
will try to restore previous ROM from recovery mode...
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try it with the new utility.. it should work for you..

finally I've restored my previous ROM (and sh*tted a pile of bricks during this hour).
HBOOT screen says that my device is still S-ON. strange... maybe that's because of 'DATA2EXT' ROM onboard.
bortak said:
use the new "...revolutionary.io/" S-OFF utility. It's a lot quicker and easier. Just make sure you uninstall HTC Sync, or at least make sure it isn't running.
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thanks. I'll try it when my hands will stop shaking

You won't be able to alter HBoot without S-Off...
I am not sure how the new Utility that bortak linked to works, but I know that the "old" alpharev will not S-Off if you are using A2SD/D2SD/D2EXT type ROMs. You will need to flash stock RUU (do not use latest GB update RUU!!!), or one of the AOSP ROMs, such as Oxygen, before proceeding.
Once you have S-Off, you can go back and re-root, then upgrade your HBoot etc.

777ace said:
You won't be able to alter HBoot without S-Off...
I am not sure how the new Utility that bortak linked to works, but I know that the "old" alpharev will not S-Off if you are using A2SD/D2SD/D2EXT type ROMs. You will need to flash stock RUU (do not use latest GB update RUU!!!), or one of the AOSP ROMs, such as Oxygen, before proceeding.
Once you have S-Off, you can go back and re-root, then upgrade your HBoot etc.
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thanks. I'll follow your advice.
I'm still wondering, why TUT-makers didn't mention this A2SD/D2SD/D2EXT ROMs inconsistency.
I think this should be written in large letters on the first line for noobs like me

Lol, you're right on that!!
If you look on alpharev site, it is mentioned in the text, but VERY small!
Requirements:
The only requirement right now is that the ROM you're running is rooted.
As techniques such as 'data2ext' have been popping up, these might disturb our finely-tuned flashing process.
Please revert to a rooted stock ROM if possible. Your /data partition is used for temporary storage of important files.
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I missed it the first time also, had lots of dramas, and finally spotted that note after many frustrating hours. It should have been written in bright red, 72 cap at the top of screen!!

You need to use an a2sd Rom like lee Droid 2.5.
Alpha rev state this at start of web page using data2sd can cause problems.
Flash lee Droid 2.5 and try it again, you should be fine
Kind regards
John
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It is being said on Alpharev website under "requirements".
Though I agree it should be said in tutorials too.
n0vice said:
thanks. I'll follow your advice.
I'm still wondering, why TUT-makers didn't mention this A2SD/D2SD/D2EXT ROMs inconsistency.
I think this should be written in large letters on the first line for noobs like me
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[Q]Help with Rooting

I am sick of my phone coming up that I have low storage. I want to root my phone. I have an USCC Desire 2.2 with Hboot 1.06.000. I am very new to doing this to my phone and I can follow directions very well. Is there any easy way to do this? I am also looking into going to the cyanogenmod 7. Is this a safe one to use and easy to use? Please Help.

Problem is that there a lot of guides out there talking about radio s off and what not, and I don't understand head nor tail of what's being said.. will be following this thread closely
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I never said anything about the radio on this. I need help rooting my phone thats what I need.

Try this tutorial :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
I see that you have 1.x Hboot which as far as I know can't be subjected to the S-off procedure.
Here is a link to some custom ROMs: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10469759&postcount=2
Please be careful not to flash GSM ROMs on a CDMA device.

I thought 1.06 wasn't rootable full stop?
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Meaple said:
I thought 1.06 wasn't rootable full stop?
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You are probably right.

It is right, currently 1.06 cannot be rooted

[Q] root my Desire HD without AAHK?

i was gonna just go ahead and root my Desire HD following online guides through google but that AAHK seems to be having bad things said about it.. i'm not sure, i dont understand half the things its saying
but anyway, i just want to flash a new 4.0 or 4.1 rom onto it, just need to root the thing first
any help please?

Use the hack kit despite what you may have read.
Click on my signature and check out post#7.
By the way, wrong section. Read forum rules while you are at it.
Sent from a dream.

There will always be bad things said about every method - the internet is full of fools.
Despite the very crass nature of way AAHK's """effen""" (multiple quotes because I loathe that "word") manual, it does get to the point, and if you follow it then you'll have no problems,

Well, thanks to the AAHK tool, my phone is Semi-Bricked, and im having a hard time recovering it.

humzaahmed155 said:
Well, thanks to the AAHK tool, my phone is Semi-Bricked, and im having a hard time recovering it.
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You messed up. Your fault. AAHK works perfectly if you read the manual twice before doing anything. If you go about using your own logic and pressing whatever you want then you'll mess up.
Sent from my Desire HD using xda premium

I read the efffen manual and did everything correctly, it restored to froyo but started freezing on the HTC splash screen
I got the phone working now anyways, albeit with an old radio
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using Tapatalk 2

humzaahmed155 said:
I read the efffen manual and did everything correctly, it restored to froyo but started freezing on the HTC splash screen
I got the phone working now anyways, albeit with an old radio
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AHH you restore to froyo?? You are not very clever are you? Maybe you missed the part where it says not to flash a froyo RUU in a device running gingerbread..that is all over the forum and even in the guide in my signature. Also in the effen manual and in the Hack Kit site.
Besides, it does not exist such a thing as semi brick...or you are bricked or you are stuck...
To sum up, stuck at the splash screen is fully described in the troubleshooting section of the manual. What people need to know, is that the Hack Kit is not for the lazy noobs, being a noob is fine if you are wise enough to learn what does hacking your device needs and involves. There are lots of thread on that...even I have writen a guide to help noobs out. No one will do anything for you...IT IS YOUR PHONE, so do your homework and stop whining.

i have a question
i am running version 2.2 on desire hd and software number is 1.83.466.5
can i use AAHK for root

komalsaeed said:
i have a question
i am running version 2.2 on desire hd and software number is 1.83.466.5
can i use AAHK for root
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Already answered in your other thread. Do not ask the same question y different threads please.