I would like to begin an initiative to port the Android Dalvik JVM to Bada. This would open up access to Android applications on the Bada platform and even allow for the creation of hybrid applications.
If you are interested in the project please put forward your advice and offer your assistance.
I am personally quite busy with other side projects but would love to create a bit of momentum and get this off the ground.
Hope this finds you all well.
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sabianadmin said:
I would like to begin an initiative to port the Android Dalvik JVM to Bada. This would open up access to Android applications on the Bada platform and even allow for the creation of hybrid applications.
If you are interested in the project please put forward your advice and offer your assistance.
I am personally quite busy with other side projects but would love to create a bit of momentum and get this off the ground.
Hope this finds you all well.
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Grt.......i am tester basically and i dont have any knowledge on programming...plz let me know if i could help you in anyway....
I think this could create a lot more work than intended because:
Bada would have to somehow support Intents/Activities
Same can be said about the UI (this could open up a can of worms) trying to match up Android UI with Bada UI aspects such as lists, menus etc
How can a dalvikvm based app be executed - we're talking about multilayers - am not sure if Bada can launch an app in this way
Dalvikvm machine under Android, is the main engine, under Bada, the C++ Runtime executes the binary, we're talking about a binary launcher launching a dalvikvm, in turn to launch a dalvikvm bytecode, that kind of process could consume far too much memory.....
Its too early to say yet at this stage on the bada SDK if it has the necessay support in place to enable this project to get off the ground
Just my 2cents
Good points. We need to establish how exactly android launches applications using Dalvik.
Does anyone know which libraries and dependencies Dalvik relies on in android?
We could create a wrapper which allows dalvik to be launched as a standard Bada app and then run a given application. Thoughts?
I did try port python 2.6 to bada last year and failed miserably due to the limited api's in place, unfortunately for bada, the majority of the API's are not there because the underlying architecture is nucleusRTOS which has a hacked up newlib and also a crappy compiler by codesourcery.
so does that mean that bada platform is not good?
I would not jump to that conclusion either...
Bada SDK has a lot of "growing up" to do... give it a chance
Who knows.... maybe bada 2.0 might have linux in place, instead of nucleusRTOS, for full head on linux sdk compatibility, multitasking.... who knows... just watch this space and wait and see....
Lets not focus on the kernel space for a second, at a user space level what BSD libraries are there?
i really thinkt hat one of the fastest ways to get a new OS on all waves mobiles is to collect some money and put it as a bounty for the releaser
i mean, it's already a LOT of work to port a new OS on a mobile phone, it's even harder if it's free D:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/08/myriad-alien-dalvik-runs-android-apps-on-any-phone-starting/
This company proved my point. Nice working being interested in something that is clearly worth being interested in guys.... *Facepalm*
@sabianadmin : really it would be great if it could happen to bada. Your idea was great to port dalvik on bada. Are you working on it?? just curious !!
Maybe this http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/08/myriad-alien-dalvik-runs-android-apps-on-any-phone-starting/ will be ported to Bada, too...
Yep been working on it for a couple of days. talking to a few people and getting and trying to figure out how to make a self contained dalvik wrapper (Myriad use Qt, we could do the same if someone ports Qt to Bada :-/ ). it really shouldn't be *that* hard to do.
@anghelyi i posted that link like 2 posts ago?!
It'd be pretty sweet if you could get in touch with Myriad and find out about their Alien Dalvik
Damn If you want to Port android to the Samsung wave go to the androidport site
We gonna port android 2.2 to the samsung wave (and we finally got an working ARM7 tool)
Just if you want this go to us
Just wait for that we been finished and you'll can do anything you want
wavedroid said:
Damn If you want to Port android to the Samsung wave go to the androidport site
We gonna port android 2.2 to the samsung wave (and we finally got an working ARM7 tool)
Just if you want this go to us
Just wait for that we been finished and you'll can do anything you want
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sabianadmin started this topic with the intention of discussing about the possibility of porting Dalvik VM to bada and not the whole android. That topic has been discussed and closed elsewhere.
wavedroid said:
Damn If you want to Port android to the Samsung wave go to the androidport site
We gonna port android 2.2 to the samsung wave (and we finally got an working ARM7 tool)
Just if you want this go to us
Just wait for that we been finished and you'll can do anything you want
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Once again proving your sheer stupidity. I am talking about running the Dalvik JVM to run android applications. Did you even read what we have been talking about here? This has nothing to do with porting the Android platform to the Wave.
Go troll on your own forums buddy.
I dont' know, but it seems that porting Myriad it would be more easy, interesting and powerful for run android apps, than porting android OS.
When they would release the source code?
The only problem is that Myriad uses Qt and so far we have not ported Qt to bada... Anyone want to give it a go? (yeah i know about the bada-lighthouse project)
Myriad
I'm new to this forum and just found this discussion via Google while looking for some related details on Dalvik.
Isn't the Turbo Dalvik from Myriad closed source, seems like a commercial product aimed at companies?
Ok, so because of NDAs and all that jazz, im still willing to contribute... I do need to know if there are any users with the Bada 2.0 SDK, I had a few questions, and I will post some info about things that pertain to the 2.0 platform. so pm or email me
I requestet the samsung partner status my old dev mentor suggested it. He said that the partners has access to the newer sdks before any other devs. We will se if my request will go through the certification.
The answer should come during the next week. I think we will see some Interface changes in the emulator of the sdk, yet it looks always like the true bada on the device.
Some interesting things will be surely there i will post some imagas if i got the partner status and the sdk.
Samsung is planning to open source its bada operating system next year for outside developers and other phone makers to use the code. It is a very good news for BADA users. Hope this will help in spreading BADA OS and attract many more developers.
Source : http://www.phonearena.com/news/Samsung-to-open-source-bada-in-2012_id22261
hmmmmmmmm
it is like "Leave me live today & kill me tomorrow"
Do you think bada 2.0 will get a jailbreak after that ?!
Just wait until 3.0 an hack it as you want
Also big question here Will Wave I/II get that update ?!
Also looks a similar story (Nokia, Symbian S^3)
I hope bada will be better than Symbian and won't die after that
Best Regards
It's just a big good news!!
Wish it will be real in 2012.
And wish developpers will follow Bada.
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Also big question here Will Wave I/II get that update ?!
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Afraid not. SamFirmware tweet about Wave 3 updates begin Q2 2012, but nothing about Wave I/II.
mylove90 said:
hmmmmmmmm
it is like "Leave me live today & kill me tomorrow"
Do you think bada 2.0 will get a jailbreak after that ?!
Just wait until 3.0 an hack it as you want
Also big question here Will Wave I/II get that update ?!
Also looks a similar story (Nokia, Symbian S^3)
I hope bada will be better than Symbian and won't die after that
Best Regards
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I dont really understand what did samsung mean by making it open source!! There are too possibility
1) they will open the OS only to other manufacturer.
2)including first option, they will also open up API a little bit more so a developer can easily access system services for better integration off apps. for example Like accessing notification bar from your app.
I am looking forward for the second option.
No bada will be open source
The SDK and the API you can download from opensource.samsung.com its no secret that the interfaces to bada are open, only the system is missing
but why get access to the notification bar? it is a main os component open everything means hack or get malware for everything.
I dont think android is open over api enough only a root can give you to all access but some users dont want this. To watch videos to surf the net or to write sms/email nobody needs root access, so this i am an opponent of.
We saw the possibilities of rooted iphones and android phones so i am scared of using a system that could have so much viruses like windows, this is not the future.
OS Modifications on an opensource os will be custom roms i hope so, no the stock rom. otherwize i would search an alternative cause a hackable system i dont want.
http://badamobile.wordpress.com/2011/09/21/samsung-there-is-decision-on-open-source/
Looks like these are only rumors. BADA is not going to be open source.
Create a section B.a.D.a devoperlers school?
with someone who will help us to easily create programs with applications that we release samsung?
XD
here we bada users are not wished, you will see most users would call you crazy to release apps for bada. Also the mods seems to be not interested in us. I would help with some examples if time is left why not.
My favorit bada app coder helper is this guy:
http://horrorcoding.altervista.org/
He has a lot experience with most languages and decided to provide examples for beginners in bada ecosystem.
For me he is something like an hero, i like his coding style and his knowledgement.
if you want it just create it, simple. This is the response you'll get most likely if you ask such questions.
And please, write bada normal way, you're not cool by writing it using this stupid case ;/
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