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Confused with App2SD

Hi!
I'm using DeFrost 1.8 and I think that my confusion will be same on any other FroYo ROM.
I know that DeFrost has Apps2SD buildin and cause it's a FroYo ROM, already have the FroYo-style Apps2SD.
I must confess that i don't care where my apps are installed. I just supose that are stored on SD card using old-Apps2SD method.
Now, I've installed App2SD from Market and show some apps that are on internal memory and some on SD card, but there are lot more apps that I have installed on my phone that don't show up on this app.
Now, I'm very confused with this.
When I install a new app from Market, in what location is installed ? Internal, SD card using App2SD-old or App2SD-FroYo ?
How can I select the default location for new installations ?
I have SpareParts from LeoFroyo and App2sd location is on 'Default'. This means internal memory or old-style App2SD or what ?
If my ROM has buildin old-style App2SD, I can suppose that 'default' means this method. Or not ?

Is your SD card setup for old-A2SD with an EXT3 partition? If not, then they'll either go on the internal memory or the SD card using FroYo-A2SD (although not all apps are installed to the SD card as the creator may not have updated them yet)

Another question:
I actually haven't any Ext3 partition and may applications already installed, some on internal memory and some with the froyo-a2sd on the sd card.
I would like to create an Ext3 partition. I was thinking about the following steps:
- backup the fat32 content of the sd
- create a 1Gb ext3 partition
- restore the content of the Fat32 partition to SD
The problem is:
I will probably lose all the applications installed on the internal memory
Is it right? How can I solve this? Do I have to move everything to the new partition?
Which directories do I have to copy on Ext3?
Is sufficient to backup everything with Titanium and the restore once the Ext3 has been created?
Another problem is:
I started the system with an Ext3 partition and I couldn't access any application I installed before. Is there a way to recover those applications?
Once I erased the Ext3 partition (without installing anything on it) the phone started a boot loop.
What if I create the Ext3 before installing the new rom?
Thank you in advance.
Regards,
Daemon

EddyOS said:
Is your SD card setup for old-A2SD with an EXT3 partition? If not, then they'll either go on the internal memory or the SD card using FroYo-A2SD (although not all apps are installed to the SD card as the creator may not have updated them yet)
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Yes, my SD card have an ext3 partition. So, the apps that don't appear at the App2SD applicaction, it's supposed that are on the ext3 partition ?
Then, why I have some apps in internal memory and other on FroYo-app2sd and the rest on ext3 part ?
I can't understand this.

What directory is A2SD apps stored on the SD Card?

I want to reformat my SD card to make a bigger ext3 partition for more app storage using slidemeroot ROM. I want to copy the current apps on the a2sd partition to my desktop so after i reformat the ext3 partition I can just paste them back onto it. So which directory on the SD card can I find my apps? Thanks!

Typically they are on /system/sd
but, with my later rom they are on /sd-ext

Thanks Eugene, also, I can only browse the ext3 directory that my apps are on using Linux like Ubuntu correct? Would my method previously posted work with copying and pasting the apps back onto the new ext3 partition?

[Q] Question A2SD & OpenDesire 4.0.34

Hi,
I'm using OpenDesire 4.0.34 and have partitioned my sdcard to have 3 partitions:
1 - FAT32 14GB
2 - EXT3 512MB
3 - SWAP/CACHE 32MB
Now I have one question:
I have enabled the "Allow application moving" setting in Settings->CyanogenMod settings->Application settings and selected Install location: Internal the same screen.
My question is: I've installed a bunch of apps I often use and they used to leave me with only 19MB free in internal phone memory. Now it shows free internal memory around 120MB?! I've checked all the apps in the Manage applications and they are on the phone (at least it says so). I've mounted /sd-ext in recovery and all the apps are there...
Can anyone explain me what's goin' on here?
Thanks for your help!

Uhm... you do know that the partition of an ext3 sd-ext system is exactly to provide greater storage space for your applications, don't you?!

Guess not...
The /sd-ext is the mount point of my ext3 partition on the sd card?
Anyway, I didn't move any app to sd card (at least explicitily).

z7x8c9 said:
Guess not...
The /sd-ext is the mount point of my ext3 partition on the sd card?
Anyway, I didn't move any app to sd card (at least explicitily).
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When you use Ext3 partition youll get "A2SD+" and both your internal memory and your Ext3 partiton will become your new "internal" space on phone. So if the setting is set to "internal" the apps will go to ext3 and internal phone memory.
The internal phone memory counter however only show how much space you have on the internal phone memory where only small parts of the apps is installed.

I just removed my sdcard to see what would happen and all my apps are gone.
As such I assume they are all on the sdcard...
So when using the ext3 partition, how can I choose if an app is installed to the phone memory or to the sdcard? Is this possible at all?
Also, when I go to manage applications, I can "move to sd card" any app, but what does this do then?
I'm a bit confused...

Moved to Q&A as not development.
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z7x8c9 said:
I just removed my sdcard to see what would happen and all my apps are gone.
As such I assume they are all on the sdcard...
So when using the ext3 partition, how can I choose if an app is installed to the phone memory or to the sdcard? Is this possible at all?
Also, when I go to manage applications, I can "move to sd card" any app, but what does this do then?
I'm a bit confused...
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you are getting apps2sd confused with the native android move to sd function!!, when you create an ext partition and use a rom that supports apps2sd, the developer has used a script that point the device to the /sd-ext as the INTERNAL STORAGE location, where as if you use the move to sd function in android, the apk's are move to the Androidsecure folder in the root of your sd card, as aposed to being stored in /data/app

I think I've got it...
On an a2sd enabled rom, I'm not required to do anything in order to install apps on the sdcard.
The move to sdcard button is the native android method to move apps to the sdcard.
I got confused because in OpenDesire in the Settings->CyanogenMod settings->Application settings there is an option to allow application moving, but all this does is enable me to move any app to the .android_secure using the move to sdcard button. It's got nothing to do with a2sd, right?
Thanks for your help!

[Q] partitioning sd card

hey everyone
i have rooted my phone and installed cyanongen mod7, the fact is that i followed the noobprrof tutorial, and as he stated i partitioned my sd card, i left 1 gb ( its a 4gb memory now its divided to 3 and 1 ), but i didnt know where did it go and why i did partition my sd card, i thought it would add up to internal memory but it didnt...
please can anyone tell me whats the purpose of paritioning it ?? and how can i let apps get installed on this paritioned part if its purpose is so...
i have also realised in the video that as he entered to phone storage, theres a part at the end name personal data that is not appearing in my phone... does this have to do anything with wut im asking ??
thanks in advance

making sd-ext is for ROMs which uses A2SD and it installs apps directly to that sd-ext. it's on sd card don't worry and those partitions are not visible in windows, only in linux.

thank u ferencz1
ok so most of the time when i move apps to sdcard the 3gb partition's free space decreases and not the 1gb partition...
1gb partition is the ext4
3gb is the fat32
isnt it supposed that the 1gb partition that decreases in free space ??

Titanium backup shows you a split - system rom, internal, sd card, sd ext ....
Look at that to see if your ext is working properly - yes is should decrease!
No need to 'move' apps to sd - its auto
Does your rom suport ext 4?? if not start again with ext 3!

BigMrB said:
Titanium backup shows you a split - system rom, internal, sd card, sd ext ....
Look at that to see if your ext is working properly - yes is should decrease!
No need to 'move' apps to sd - its auto
Does your rom suport ext 4?? if not start again with ext 3!
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CM7 does support ext4 right, don't know i use IC, but what you said about titanium backup is wrong, sometimes it doesn't say how much ext. there's. Quick System Info does although

TopGear63z said:
CM7 does support ext4 right, don't know i use IC, but what you said about titanium backup is wrong, sometimes it doesn't say how much ext. there's. Quick System Info does although
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I use both... but titanium everyone has and to be fair always shows it for me

[Q] Using Link2sd correctly

Hey People,
As the title shows I have some questions about using Link2sd correctly.
First off my phone is rooted and is using a standard VM rom with most of the bloatware already removed and apps2sd built into the rom.
I am only using a 4 gig SD card that has 2 partitions.
In Link2sd SD(/mnt/sdcard) card shows total .97GB and SD Card 2nd Part (/data/sdext2) has total 2.84GB.
I think I have them backwards, should /mnt/sdcard be the larger partition since that is the one I have access to?
And what is the difference between Linking something to the SD card and just moving it to the SD card?
From what I have gathered when something is Linked to the SD card it gets moved to the /data/sdext2.
And if you just move it to the SD card it gets moved to the /mnt/sdcard partition.
When would you choose one over the other?
Thanks

Quick study Links2SD can move any app; A2SD can only move apps written to be moved to SD [/sdcard]. I prefer to use the ext2 or ext3 [/sdext] as much as possible for apps as its a native file system [android is a linux branch after all]. The fat32 can cause longer delays at boot time imo. I believe your partition sizes to be a good choice though. Your fat32 will fill up with nandroids, downloaded roms and mods, music, documents and such before you know it
Hope that helps.
Rob
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I think your ext partition is to big for a 4gb sdcard, you may want to reduce it to 1gb or 2gb if you have plenty of apps. Let me tell you more about this link2sd, app2sd and data2sd so that you will understand better and be able to decide which is suitable for your phone.
As mentioned above, link2sd moves apps to your ext2/ext3/ext4 partition. But not only apps or the apk's, it also moves the dalvik, cache, and library files supporting the apps. The advantage of link2sd is the freedom to choose which of those you want to move. You can easily check or uncheck this options during the linking process.
Native app2sd moves apps to the fat32 partition (/sdcard). And it only moves the apk, leaving cache, dalvik and library files in the internal memory. If you have several applications moved in this manner, a certain portion of your internal memory is still being consumed.
There's also Data2Sd, it creates a link of the entire /data folder and moves everything to the ext partition. Logically speaking, your ext partition becomes your /data partition. The original data partition now becomes a useless space. The advantage of this is the size of your internal memory, which is only limited to the size of your ext partition. But there's also a disadvantage, to use app2sd you need a fast sdcard (category 6 and above is recommended) because everything is now residing on the sdcard which is normally slower than the built-in memory and may result to lagging on some applications.

I have a new SD cart I have partition it like the 1i use know
How do I copy all of my staff from one card to another? So that link 2sd will work with no problem?
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anhelogr said:
I have a new SD cart I have partition it like the 1i use know
How do I copy all of my staff from one card to another? So that link 2sd will work with no problem?
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I you mean the apps linked into your old sdcard, then do this:
1. Backup all your apps using titanium backup. The backup will be stored in your /sdcard under "TitaniumBackup" folder.
2. Use a card reader to copy that folder to your new sdcard.
3. Insert your new sdcard to your phone, then download and reinstall titanium backup.
It will automatically scan for backup up files in your sdcard and will allow you to restore all your apps.

Ok thanks s I will try this
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Why is link2sd not finding my ext 2 particion ?
Is this because I used cwr to particion my SD card ?
I have made a 2gb ext2 with 512 swap I have linked a lot of apps to SD card but when I get the memory status I get the SD particion not detected
What can I do? The think is that the phone works fine
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2GB is probably more that you'll ever need. I've always used 1GB and it has not yet run out.
Could you clarify what you mean when you say that you have linked a lot of apps but the SD partition is not detected?
Does Link2SD say that the apps are on the sdcard or the apps are LINKED to SD?

AceRoom said:
2GB is probably more that you'll ever need. I've always used 1GB and it has not yet run out.
Could you clarify what you mean when you say that you have linked a lot of apps but the SD partition is not detected?
Does Link2SD say that the apps are on the sdcard or the apps are LINKED to SD?
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Well the problem is this when I open the link2sd a windows pops up and tells me to choose
Ext2 ext 3 ext 4 fat 32 if I choose ext 2 it say that it can't found the ext2 and I have to do a restart then it finds the ext2 and tells me to restart again if I do not turn the phone off there is no problem but if I turn the phone off at night I have to do this again:banghead: in order for the link2sd to find the ext2 partition if I go to link2sd settings storage use the 2end partition is not available only if I do 2 restarts
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Did you ever use data2sd or s2e or anything else which uses the sd-ext partition? It sounds like there might be a conflict between different startup scripts.
Could you open a root explorer (Or terminal or adb) and find the init.d folder.
On my CM9, the folder is at /system/system/etc/init.d
Post here a list of all the files inside that folder.

AceRoom said:
Did you ever use data2sd or s2e or anything else which uses the sd-ext partition? It sounds like there might be a conflict between different startup scripts.
Could you open a root explorer (Or terminal or adb) and find the init.d folder.
On my CM9, the folder is at /system/system/etc/init.d
Post here a list of all the files inside that folder.
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No I haven't use anythink
I have a new rom Installed with link2sd ready for use
I have a lot of free space the rom is what I wanted the only promplem is this :banghead:
The solution is never turn off my phone (I think this is no good for any phone )
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anhelogr said:
No I haven't use anythink
I have a new rom Installed with link2sd ready for use
I have a lot of free space the rom is what I wanted the only promplem is this :banghead:
The solution is never turn off my phone (I think this is no good for any phone )
Send using Htc Wildfire S
Rom Wildchild v1.1
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I've got confirmation that the Link2SD/a2sd in this ROM are working just fine. Many users have reported that; and a few users have even told me that Data2SD also works just fine (I dunno... I only use Link2SD) with the only point being that you can't delete/uninstall any of the app2sd scripts that come bundled with the ROM. If you must use Data2SD (why??) then simply install it and you're off and running. Other than that, Link2SD should work just fine (it does for me and, literally, hundreds others).
I suspect this has to do with what/how you restored from Titanium Backup... or the fact that you partitioned with CWM. No offense, but CWM's strength is in backup/recovery, not partitioning (or even partitioning WIPING, if you read a few key posts on this forum).
I suggest you format with MiniTool Partition Wizard (lots of good tutorials on XDA). I'm using ext2fs myself and it works just fine (of course, ext4fs also works... I've tried it myself).
Good luck,

Tigger31337 said:
I've got confirmation that the Link2SD/a2sd in this ROM are working just fine. Many users have reported that; and a few users have even told me that Data2SD also works just fine (I dunno... I only use Link2SD) with the only point being that you can't delete/uninstall any of the app2sd scripts that come bundled with the ROM. If you must use Data2SD (why??) then simply install it and you're off and running. Other than that, Link2SD should work just fine (it does for me and, literally, hundreds others).
I suspect this has to do with what/how you restored from Titanium Backup... or the fact that you partitioned with CWM. No offense, but CWM's strength is in backup/recovery, not partitioning (or even partitioning WIPING, if you read a few key posts on this forum).
I suggest you format with MiniTool Partition Wizard (lots of good tutorials on XDA). I'm using ext2fs myself and it works just fine (of course, ext4fs also works... I've tried it myself).
Good luck,
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I though the same that the problem is the partition method I use I will try the mini tool
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I found the problem I was selecting ext2 for link2sd but when I use mini tool it said ext3 so I load up again the card start link2sd ext3 reboot and vouala all ok know I really enjoy my phone
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