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Every time I reboot Apps/Data go missing [HELP]

Alright I going keep this simple. I checked all over the forum and can't find a sollution. My devs told me to come here and told me no one else has this issue.
Following is my specs. s3, running twrp 2.3.3.1 have sense it came out. I have a 32 gig SD card patriot. I am running super su (note that)
I use TB backup normal. I run inverted Gapps, normaly.
My attempts to fix.
Did a clean install, format system, factory data reset, cache, dalvik in TWRP. I installed rootbox, I installed normal Gapps 20121212, then
Get to home screen I dont reinstall anything except
TB backup, Root Tool box, and updated super su (which might be installed wrong)
anyways I reboot to back up when there done and poof Roottoolbox is no longer there, though icon is still there. Missing app.... icon still there WTF
TB lost its cousin TB pro (key) but TB is there.... wtf
Oh and super su lost its update as did gapps updates
All missing
Also I can reinstall apps restart again and BAM apps missing again same ones same updates.
Is this something I could of done in android comander? I use droid manager and droid explore too..
Never had a issue back on 4.1 jellybam I flased a few roms 4.2 roms..
baked bean, aokp , cm10 tried them now im on rootbox
I did flash the broken jellybam 5.1 a bunch times trying get to work (shrug) dunno if that matters and I flashed from 4.1 to 4.2 a lot of times
I assume some folder got moved its like my system picks apps to move to certain places
OR maybe I installed backed up apps with android comander somewhere i shouldn't so now I can't install them again (though flashing clean install should fixed everything)
Give me some ideas please thank you
I never had a issue that clean install didn't fix so Im worried. I still have old backup on my computer of before the problem started but there 4.1 roms and I don't wana compound my issues so I wait untill I get reply to try anything crazy

I think I know whats wrong I explored a bit and i dunno my data/data folder is FULL of old stuff I guess I asumed it got cleaned out with system wipe in TWRP
So my question is .... assuming im going to do a reinstall what should I wipe to clean out my system folders? I don't want to clean my SD card just the system I want a true fresh install thank you

xxsicknessxx said:
I think I know whats wrong I explored a bit and i dunno my data/data folder is FULL of old stuff I guess I asumed it got cleaned out with system wipe in TWRP
So my question is .... assuming im going to do a reinstall what should I wipe to clean out my system folders? I don't want to clean my SD card just the system I want a true fresh install thank you
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my advice to you is clean up all partitions by using odin to flash back to stock, reroot, custom recovery and start flashing again. seems like your partitions need a cleaning bud, I'm 99% sure this will solve your problem.
p.s. wiping in recovery is not the same thing as odin back to stock, a full odin flash back to stock will fix EVERY partition on your phone and really clean things up. You can even do a full wipe after the odin to stock to really make sure your system is clean.
also use sdmaid (root app) to clean out your sdcard of crap

Danvdh said:
my advice to you is clean up all partitions by using odin to flash back to stock, reroot, custom recovery and start flashing again. seems like your partitions need a cleaning bud, I'm 99% sure this will solve your problem.
p.s. wiping in recovery is not the same thing as odin back to stock, a full odin flash back to stock will fix EVERY partition on your phone and really clean things up. You can even do a full wipe after the odin to stock to really make sure your system is clean.
also use sdmaid (root app) to clean out your sdcard of crap
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Any chance you got a link to advise me on how to do that? I havn't ever gone back to stock...
Odin or mobile odin? Im assuming Normal odin. hmpf sounds good to me but maybe i shouldn't do it at 1:52 am

xxsicknessxx said:
Any chance you got a link to advise me on how to do that? I havn't ever gone back to stock...
Odin or mobile odin? Im assuming Normal odin. hmpf sounds good to me but maybe i shouldn't do it at 1:52 am
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Get your stock firmware 4.0.4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1968625
use this toolkit to guide you through everything, it will basically teach you how to use odin, I recommend it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746665
FOLLOW ON SCREEN INSTRUCTIONS, don't get ahead of yourself, the tool kit tells you what to do.
root and install custom recovery afterwords using the toolkit
once again, FOLLOW ON SCREEN INSTRUCTIONS, don't get ahead of yourself, the tool kit tells you what to do.
once you boot up just factory reset inside the rom, reboot into recovery (toolkit will do it for you if you choose the setting) and start flashing again
also don't forget to reflash the latest modem for your carrier, found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1831898
also, I think you should format your sd card, just back up ALL your important stuff on your PC and move it back after, you will REALLY clean stuff up big time,

-I have to flash modem?
-Do I need a kernal?
-I cant use any of my backups after I do this right?
Last but not least I have my stock backup before I started flashing that isn't going to help right? Whats ever messed up im going need to do this all the way right?
Anyways I figure it can't hurt but I gotta make sure I get perfect directions I can follow but if I have guess on anything im doomed. I downloading the stock file now (I think right one its ATT) doesn't say d2att but I assume ATT means that all 3 recoverys are for d2att
anyways you helped me a bunch using search I know I can figure the rest out im going download everything get sleep and attemt in morning I come back let ya know if I get back to running.
Funny this problem effecs so few apps just a couple I must done something wrong. I don't get how anything can live past system wipe in TWRP... I mean it deletes system files right? They get replaced by my new roms files I thought but instead they seem like they get left over every time i wipe... I dunno why. If this don't work im using my warrenty
how come i cant just wipe data then install a fresh rom off my sd card? or could my recovery be messed up also.... (dam) i guess this makes sense oh well lol

xxsicknessxx said:
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Thanks a bunch man.
Every once in awhile someone really is helpfull on this forum and its cool when it happens. *Tips his hat* thanks
I already formated my sd card (will do it again if nessisery)
Just did it few seconds ago figured might help. umm only other question now is.. do I need flash kernal or is that included... and also the s3 toolkit (I have it already) and have used it I only sounds like a noob I just confused at this issue. Umm it doesn't have my specific model will that be a issue? I know it has i747 but not samsung galaxy i747 att
or does not matter only the i747 part needs be right only asking so i don't F up
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i747 is at&t
i747m is Canada
T999 is tmobile
that should help you out, also, the odin flash covers every partition. kernel, rom, modem etc. you will need to flash a custom kernel after your rooted and have a custom recovery. I would do a little bit more research, flash the rom in my sig (my own rom) when your up and running and use it as a daily driver untill you figure things out a little bit more with some good ol reading :highfive:

that was a long download. I know what im kinda doing. I done same thing on my S2 reverted it to sell. The only difference is my S3 is a girl about things. my s2 could take anything.
Anyways I had a long night.. i dunno what problem IS but I think has to do with me having android comander and backing up my APKs to my computer and my phone. and reinstalling apps with bolth programs.
Its so easy to use Android comander that I dunno maybe I been installing apps in wrong places and it finaly caught up to me
Or maybe phone defective.. *shrug* dunno others had my issues too but no fixes really. Nothing solid.
I give your idea a try but I did just wipe data, wipe system factory data and bla bla nothing helps it still happens. the same dam 3 apps too... over and over jezzzz
Thanks for help Im to tired to continue was just waiting for the reocvery to finish later

Anyone answer this.
If I format everything in Twrp all my
system/system/app folders
system/data/app folders
data/data/ folders
And so forth do they get delete and new one put in there place
do they get over written and merge with the ones from last rom
nothing happens to them?
I need to know. And this Full Recovery via odin the guy above says to do will it really get rid of them? all Not leave stuff behind
I think this is my problem if it isn't then its a faulty phone but problems just started so i think its something i did on acciednt
Even though I installed newest TWRP sometimes its like Settings get left over even after a full wipe. Including data (did last night)
Did data, system, cache , dalvik, factory reset, I even formated SD card
Then reindtall rom downloded rom manager. restarted and poof gone and left behind short cut on the desktop
So wtf ? and settings won't stick they revert back default like it can't remember **** its been smoking weed i bet... dam phone
any ideas help or will flashing odin fix this because i don't wana mess phone up worse

Wait..did you format internal SD?
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jasvncnt1 said:
Wait..did you format internal SD?
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I took bolth out first trasferd exSD and formated on my computer... then after I did a DATA WIPE in TWRP which is a format of interneal sd card (correct?)
Just to see if help.. I ran SD maid cleaned up tons of crap... but still having issues... I dunno maybe its the roms and no one else noticed because they don't flash as much as me.... whatever this is going on its weird... Like I said its got something do with data from apps being stored in wrong place so when I update them they get sent to the wrong folder somehow but only some of them get sent there ( dunno ) then when I reboot they gone and I come back and my settings gone too... also when I flash a rom sometimes settings are picked for me already (then if I change them and flash again) they might be different... or I get settings from a old rom.. and I always clean flash btw
Very odd I dunno I going do odin thing tonight just waiting get more info I don't feel like I can do it right now with out Fing it up

xxsicknessxx said:
I took bolth out first trasferd exSD and formated on my computer... then after I did a DATA WIPE in TWRP which is a format of interneal sd card (correct?)
Just to see if help.. I ran SD maid cleaned up tons of crap... but still having issues... I dunno maybe its the roms and no one else noticed because they don't flash as much as me.... whatever this is going on its weird... Like I said its got something do with data from apps being stored in wrong place so when I update them they get sent to the wrong folder somehow but only some of them get sent there ( dunno ) then when I reboot they gone and I come back and my settings gone too... also when I flash a rom sometimes settings are picked for me already (then if I change them and flash again) they might be different... or I get settings from a old rom.. and I always clean flash btw
Very odd I dunno I going do odin thing tonight just waiting get more info I don't feel like I can do it right now with out Fing it up
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Reguardless of what I did to cause this what I don't get is why wiping everything and installing fresh rom doesn't do the trick?
Is there any other way to clean out all /system folders / data folders / root folders of crap and start brand new? beside above post?

xxsicknessxx said:
I took bolth out first trasferd exSD and formated on my computer... then after I did a DATA WIPE in TWRP which is a format of interneal sd card (correct?)
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Wipe data doesn't format your internal. You need to actually format internal. Cant remember where that option is. Might be in "wipe" or in "advanced" . BUT....it will wipe everything of your internal. What ever you have saved.... Backups....pics.
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jasvncnt1 said:
Wipe data doesn't format your internal. You need to actually format internal. Cant remember where that option is. Might be in "wipe" or in "advanced" . BUT....it will wipe everything of your internal. What ever you have saved.... Backups....pics.
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everything important is saved on my computer honestly I make lots of backups im a carefull person I been reading about corrupt EFS folders, and bad system directories and stuff....
Seems only way fix it go back to stock and go through your folders.... Once im stock again I hope I do this right (im ready to do it now) just ... feel like this could all go wrong
What do I do once im stock? Just wipe the phone? factory data... its the not having a custom recovery (with stock) that scares me so much... I rooted this phone with a program I didn't do it by hand so Im worrried I might not get it right *sigh*

Once your back on stock n rooted install goomanager and installed TWRP again.
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jasvncnt1 said:
Wipe data doesn't format your internal. You need to actually format internal. Cant remember where that option is. Might be in "wipe" or in "advanced" . BUT....it will wipe everything of your internal. What ever you have saved.... Backups....pics.
Sent from my SGH-I747 using Tapatalk 2
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Alright so im stock now. with root... Havn't formatted yet (no point) I already did that ... I know how this happned I think..
When I kept going from 4.1 and 4.2 I would get 0 folders so I took it and moved it back by just droping all folders back into the main drive so alll combine. It seemed to work but does sound possible? Would that casue issues with /root folder or is /root got nothing do with internal storage because I can't see it from computer
HEY quick what do I do with 0 folder? delete it all? combine? cry..... hehe I only got 1 but what do I do with it thanks
I wana make sure I fixed now

Danvdh said:
Get your stock firmware 4.0.4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1968625
use this toolkit to guide you through everything, it will basically teach you how to use odin, I recommend it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746665
FOLLOW ON SCREEN INSTRUCTIONS, don't get ahead of yourself, the tool kit tells you what to do.
root and install custom recovery afterwords using the toolkit
once again, FOLLOW ON SCREEN INSTRUCTIONS, don't get ahead of yourself, the tool kit tells you what to do.
once you boot up just factory reset inside the rom, reboot into recovery (toolkit will do it for you if you choose the setting) and start flashing again
also don't forget to reflash the latest modem for your carrier, found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1831898
also, I think you should format your sd card, just back up ALL your important stuff on your PC and move it back after, you will REALLY clean stuff up big time,
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Thanks again for the information you helped a lot and I think that worked. I think its fixed. I can't be sure but its not happening at least like it was before. I prob won't know for awhile if its going to happen again for sure but Im optimistic. I mean what else can I do after this lol buy a new phone
Thanks dude most people arn't that nice to explain everything to me

[Q] Giant Mess, need help please.

I am kind of stuck and have searched endlessly...
I am rooted and running AOKP - d2att (4.2.1 JOP40D) Build 1.17.2013
AT&T Samsung Galaxy SIII i747
I am trying to update the Rom - Everytime I have updated, I get the "unfortunately, android keyboard (aosp) has stopped" error. I just restore a backup and go to my older version again.
I was preparing to make another backup and noticed I'm out of space, my System Data is taking up 7,938MB!!! I have no idea why or how it got so out of control. I attempted to just do a Factory Reset, it looked as if it worked... however nothing was wiped.
Right now I'm just at a crossroads. I like the custom Rom (minus some serious flaws) but want to be able to update and have some free space. But I'm starting to think returning it to the stock firmware and just settling might be easier?
Any ideas on where I can clear up some space or what I can do to battle the AOSP error? Is there another Rom that may be a better choice, iI know they aren't "better" but an equal alternative maybe. I'm fairly new to all of this but have a decent understanding, I made a switch to Android after owning purely Iphones since the 3G.

SynysterNate said:
I am kind of stuck and have searched endlessly...
I am rooted and running AOKP - d2att (4.2.1 JOP40D) Build 1.17.2013
AT&T Samsung Galaxy SIII i747
I am trying to update the Rom - Everytime I have updated, I get the "unfortunately, android keyboard (aosp) has stopped" error. I just restore a backup and go to my older version again.
I was preparing to make another backup and noticed I'm out of space, my System Data is taking up 7,938MB!!! I have no idea why or how it got so out of control. I attempted to just do a Factory Reset, it looked as if it worked... however nothing was wiped.
Right now I'm just at a crossroads. I like the custom Rom (minus some serious flaws) but want to be able to update and have some free space. But I'm starting to think returning it to the stock firmware and just settling might be easier?
Any ideas on where I can clear up some space or what I can do to battle the AOSP error? Is there another Rom that may be a better choice, iI know they aren't "better" but an equal alternative maybe. I'm fairly new to all of this but have a decent understanding, I made a switch to Android after owning purely Iphones since the 3G.
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Have you tried reflashing the ROM completely again from scratch with a full wipe ?
HOw are you installing the ROM ? When people say update I wonder if they mena a full wipe and flash of the ROM or are you using an updater

hednik said:
Have you tried reflashing the ROM completely again from scratch with a full wipe ?
HOw are you installing the ROM ? When people say update I wonder if they mena a full wipe and flash of the ROM or are you using an updater
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Once I download the update I reboot into recovery. wipe cache and dalvik cache. I make a backup and then..
-install zip from sdcard
-choose zip from sdcard
then pick the downloaded update and then repeat the process with the gapps.
Once it loads, all my contacts and things appear there.. with the AOSP error.
I think after explaining this and reading your post, I should do a full wipe and install the newest version of the ROM. I hate to be a pest, what would be the best way to do this. I have Titanium Backup Pro. I really only care about my contacts and text messages and some apps.

SynysterNate said:
Once I download the update I reboot into recovery. wipe cache and dalvik cache. I make a backup and then..
-install zip from sdcard
-choose zip from sdcard
then pick the downloaded update and then repeat the process with the gapps.
Once it loads, all my contacts and things appear there.. with the AOSP error.
I think after explaining this and reading your post, I should do a full wipe and install the newest version of the ROM. I hate to be a pest, what would be the best way to do this. I have Titanium Backup Pro. I really only care about my contacts and text messages and some apps.
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You have have to flash the updated gapps if you aren't. They are made for 4.2.2 and nothing earlier. If you flash the same gapps as you flashed earlier you'll get loads of issues.
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KorGuy123 said:
You have have to flash the updated gapps if you aren't. They are made for 4.2.2 and nothing earlier. If you flash the same gapps as you flashed earlier you'll get loads of issues.
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Ok, so I have ran the update gapps as well previously. A current status update. I backed up all my pictures, contacts and ran backup of system data with Titanium Pro. I wiped cache, cleared the Delvik cache, wiped data.. just realized I wasn't going into Mounts and Storage and not doing a format /system. That might explain why it was getting so massive. After doing those in the correct order, I flashed the ROM and Gapps and new Kernal. Its currently booting...
Success.. Its up and running the new Rom, however.. I have a new question. I have no apps and everything is back to how it all started. I know I can run titanium backup and restore things. But google is automatically installing my apps back one by one. There has to be a correct way to do this? I'm patiently waiting for it to install titanium so I can restore my texts and settings.

SynysterNate said:
Knew I was missing something.. I'm stuck now, I don't have enough free space for the new Rom, Gapps and a backup.
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you dont have to make a backup every single time you want to update. thats whats taking up all your internal memory. i have 1 stock backup that i made the day i flashed aokp 4.1.2 and then 1 backup of my current setup. if i ever want/need to restore, i'm all set. if you want to make a backup every single time, move the older files to your PC and keep your most recent 1 or 2 on the phone. that'll give you enough space to move forward

SynysterNate said:
But google is automatically installing my apps back one by one. There has to be a correct way to do this? I'm patiently waiting for it to install titanium so I can restore my texts and settings.
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Google restoring apps is an option you set during the one time initial setup.
you shouldn't be restoring system data, and it sounds like you're doing that. there are apps to restore texts easily. one that I use is sms backup and restore, which works well and takes maybe a minute.
it's cumbersome to remember every setting so I'd suggest writing them down or something similar.
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[Q] Desperatly need help backing up ROM

Greetings,
This is a bit cliché question but i've Google literally everywhere and tried every tutorial available.
What I want: I want to backup my Galaxy W's stock ROM so I can instal custom ROM's a know that I can return to the stock rom in case I screw something or if anything goes wrong.
I've tried.
Rom Manager with cwm recovery - I get an error in recovery mode that tells me to check the log. When I do the log is empty. If I attempt to restore the ROM it says that it's missing an MD5 file.
Online nandroid - it runs sucefully but I cannot find and restore the backup afterwards.
Other backup apps I've tried just backed up my apps or contacts and they've done so sucessfully.
The question is, can someone help me finding a good and reliable way to backup my ROM so I can return to the stock gingerbread in case the ICS paranoid android does (or goes) wrong?
thanks in advance

Thaenor said:
Greetings,
This is a bit cliché question but i've Google literally everywhere and tried every tutorial available.
What I want: I want to backup my Galaxy W's stock ROM so I can instal custom ROM's a know that I can return to the stock rom in case I screw something or if anything goes wrong.
I've tried.
Rom Manager with cwm recovery - I get an error in recovery mode that tells me to check the log. When I do the log is empty. If I attempt to restore the ROM it says that it's missing an MD5 file.
Online nandroid - it runs sucefully but I cannot find and restore the backup afterwards.
Other backup apps I've tried just backed up my apps or contacts and they've done so sucessfully.
The question is, can someone help me finding a good and reliable way to backup my ROM so I can return to the stock gingerbread in case the ICS paranoid android does (or goes) wrong?
thanks in advance
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First flash cwm recovery with odin then you can back up your stock rom

thank you but...
well... at least you're pointing me in the right direction.
I'll try looking for some tutorials to back up through Odin. Thing is, I have a mac. I hope that doesn't get in the way.
Could you point me out for some tutorials please?
EDIT: I would prefer to avoid using Odin. the process seems really dangerous.
EDIT 2: I noticed my memory in the android is full. It means that nandroid online DID backup, apparently sucessfully. All I need is to find it and test it.
Assuming it will restore my system to the way it is I can finally get to try some paranoid android mods.
Also, has an alternative. Do you think I could simply lookup and download the official stock rom and, in case something goes wrong, simply reinstall it?

Thaenor said:
well... at least you're pointing me in the right direction.
I'll try looking for some tutorials to back up through Odin. Thing is, I have a mac. I hope that doesn't get in the way.
Could you point me out for some tutorials please?
EDIT: I would prefer to avoid using Odin. the process seems really dangerous.
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No not dangerous but its your choice. Just look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21875835&postcount=3

lafactorial said:
No not dangerous but its your choice. Just look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21875835&postcount=3
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The thing is... I barely know what Odin is. From what I saw on google I can't even run that on Mac (I have another pc with Windows just in case).
And I'm not even sure what links to follow if the Rom recovery (I just want to do a backup) or the clockwork mod...
Wouldn't it be easier if I just downloaded the official ROM and used that one has my backup?

u can use dd shell instead of odin just search how to use it , for stock rom thats flashable through cwm recovery then i guess ull find one thats XXLM8 based in the forum or u can build one urself using ur windows pc and dsixda's kitchen (but it will take u some time to install the kitchen and know how to use it), for nandroid backups 3 things are recommended : 1- free space on either internal or external sdcard 2- root access to make sure everything is ok (at least thats my opinion) 3- either CWM or TWRP recoveries
my advice is to backup the EFS folder which is much more important than the rom itself (ull find a thread on how to backup & restore it) and also ull find that ull depend on ICS & JB based roms in the future that ull rarely go back to stock

I tried to backup to SD card through the clockworkmod in recovery mode and it worked.
I tried to restore it and it restored my system... I think. To the same state.
Now I'm having a different problem. I have instaled cyanogen mod paranoid android, but unfortunately the phone get's stuck in the boot animation with the scrolling android eyes.
Can anyone please help me.
PS: I had to ultimately put the backup to the test. The custom Rom was not working at all! here is the link to the rom, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1753065
Luckly the backup worked and restored my stock ROM putting everything back in place. *phew*
The question remains... where can I find a good ROM with paranoid android for my galaxy W?

Have you wiped /system & /data & /cache before installing the paranoid ??
for paranoid u can check newer paranoid roms cuz this one seems abit old, also check pacman roms cuz i guess they're usually built on paranoid

I (wrongly) assumed that an older rom would mean a more stable one. But here's to topics I would like to clear.
here's what I did all in clockwork mod:
.cleaned cache
.cleaned Dalvik cache
.fixed permitions
.installed the ROM
.installed GAPPS right afterwards
.reboot
1. Is there a COMPLETELY stable ROM for Galaxy W with ICS or Jelly Bean?
2. Where can I find updated ROMs of paranoid android or this packman you mentioned? I have a hard time finding thrustworthy ROM's and even more checking reviews and comments to make sure it works or what sort of problems people have with them.
Thank you once again, my Galaxy Wonder is doing fine. I'm back to the original ROM and I haven't lost anything (that I noticed). I have 2 backups on my SD card that are taking up 2GB of space but I'm too scared to move them to my PC, afraid that they won't work after I move them.

you shall wipe /data & /system (this will wipe all ur apps, contacts & sms but its an essential step as ur shifting from GB to ICS or JB)
this pacman (cm10.1 based) has hybrid properties and is the most updated so far : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2218224

If you want stability. I recommend CM9 RC 9
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ouch... So I have a couple of questions.
1. Did the backup really restore everything or just part of it, and the messages and whatnot were kept because I never wiped the system and apps
I was using a cm9 clockwork recovery mode... I think.
2. What is cm9 and cm10?
2.1 does this have to do with the Kernel?
2.2 Is the Kernel updatable? And if so are there any updates for Wonder?
3. what does "GO PRISTINE WAY" mean?
Just so we're clear on the number one. Fact check me if I'm wrong but I think that the Wonder has a default recovery mode and what I did by installing the clockwork recovery was override that recovery mode with one made by other people (read unoficially). In that light I believe there would be updates to this clockwork recovery mode, the question is, are they worth installing? Usually earlier versions can be more stable, not sure if this applies here.
Through this clockwork recovery I went to the options in backup/restore and selected "backup to SD external card" which create a folder in my external SD card. And the (million dollar) question here is, what did I exactly backup? Everything? Just the ROM? Just apps?
Once again thanks for help. I'm getting a mix of interest and fear out of this ROM business. I like the features in paranoid android (like phablet mode), but I am also equally scared of bricking my phone and having to go back to my really really old Blackberry.

Thaenor said:
ouch... So I have a couple of questions.
1. Did the backup really restore everything or just part of it, and the messages and whatnot were kept because I never wiped the system and apps
I was using a cm9 clockwork recovery mode... I think.
2. What is cm9 and cm10?
2.1 does this have to do with the Kernel?
2.2 Is the Kernel updatable? And if so are there any updates for Wonder?
3. what does "GO PRISTINE WAY" mean?
Just so we're clear on the number one. Fact check me if I'm wrong but I think that the Wonder has a default recovery mode and what I did by installing the clockwork recovery was override that recovery mode with one made by other people (read unoficially). In that light I believe there would be updates to this clockwork recovery mode, the question is, are they worth installing? Usually earlier versions can be more stable, not sure if this applies here.
Through this clockwork recovery I went to the options in backup/restore and selected "backup to SD external card" which create a folder in my external SD card. And the (million dollar) question here is, what did I exactly backup? Everything? Just the ROM? Just apps?
Once again thanks for help. I'm getting a mix of interest and fear out of this ROM business. I like the features in paranoid android (like phablet mode), but I am also equally scared of bricking my phone and having to go back to my really really old Blackberry.
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The clockwork recovery backups almost everything (except boot loader if i remembered correctly?) , including hut not only the 'system' partition where the rom's file are put and 'data' where your changes to the system(changes excluding “root” ones) are saved
Advice: apps backedup(data partition) using the recovery only works on the same rom or those of the same 'base', use titanium backup the apps is safer,note that there migt be problem if you restore data on a different android version(for example using titanium backup to backup apps on an android 2.3 system and restore them on android 4.2 system might not work) try use the backup/restore opion in the app if availible.
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dicksonlok said:
Ans to Q1:
The clockwork recovery backups almost everything (except boot loader if i remembered correctly?) , including hut not only the 'system' partition where the rom's file are put and 'data' where your changes to the system(changes excluding “root” ones) are saved
Advice: apps backedup(data partition) using the recovery only works on the same rom or those of the same 'base', use titanium backup the apps is safer,note that there migt be problem if you restore data on a different android version(for example using titanium backup to backup apps on an android 2.3 system and restore them on android 4.2 system might not work) try use the backup/restore opion in the app if availible.
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there's actually a 4th question.
4 - with a new rom, I will also be installing a new version of Gapps right? Does that mean that apps that couldn't be installed on my phone will now be available? Like the Chrome navigator or the new game Kingdom Rush.

ok lets start answering all questions in order
1. making a backup using CWM recovery (we name it nandroid backup) will backup ur a)system (it has the base files of the rom that will stay the same even if u make a factory reset, but surely thr content data will b deleted), b)cache, c)data (data means the apps and their data not the media that r stored on sdcard "a nandroid backup will not restore the images of a whats app conversation if the whats app folder is deleted from ur sdcard") d)kernel (named boot.img) & e)recovery (which is the same recovery itself u used to make the backup) ..... nandroid backup will not backup boot loader (which u dont have to worry about cuz u wont b able to solve it urself) and EFS folder (which u surely have to worry about cuz its easily backupable and restored if anythn happens to it)
2. cm9 is ICS 4.0.x .... cm10 is JB 4.1.x .... cm10.1 is JB 4.2.x .... stock rom for our wonder is GB 2.3.6 ............. All of them r different bases for android and to change between them its always preferable to make a full wipe not to have conflicts like boot loops or apps force close
2.1 each base has its kernel even if it has the same version number (i.e. same processing manner) cuz it shall be modified for each base to work on it properly
2.2 yes kernels r updatable for each base (u can c an example if u go to arco's cm threads and c the changelog)
3. go pristine is a term introduced by a great xda member here called pepoluan and it means full wipe of the phone to make sure u have a clean install of whatever u want (thrs a thread in general section for how to go pristine)
4. Gapps (aka Google apps) depend on which base u r , u can't install JB gapps for ICS , some of the apps that the gapps zip contains are updatable while some of them cant be updated (e.g. the newest google search cant b updated to ICS so ull have to stick with what the ICS gapps provided u) and finally u can c how the gapps are classified in this simple link http://goo.im/gapps
Any further question ??
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Ah , about the stability, so far here all the bases are quite stable but if ur looking for the most stable then try cm9 based roms
the more updates the base gets (cm9 has the most updates so far) the more stable it gets cuz they fix the bugs of the older versions and u can check that from the changelog of every rom, so never think about staying on an older rom if thrs a newer more stable version of it

Actually yes, I hope I'm not pushing my luck here, but every time I dig a little deeper into the Android OS I find new and complicated tutorials and questions. At first I just thought it was as simple as downloading Titanium backup and them installing new ROM's.
Then I find out that backing up the OS ins't as simple as that. THEN there are other "smalls things" that actually turn up rather complicated.
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but from what I understand. Certain apps, like Kingdom Rush aren't available on my Wonder because the GAPPs version doesn't allow it. If I were to install a JB rom for example, then it would probably allow that game to be installed, because it would require a new version of GAPPs.
1. So assuming I don't mind about reinstalling the apps (but I have those backed up anyway), I also backed up my contacts, messages and call logs. Added to a nandroid backup should be enough to guarantee that I can go back to my first version, in case something goes wrong?
(that and the EFS which I will have to look into later)
1.1 - should I update my clockwork mod first? I'm not sure which version I have, but should I expect it to have a big impact on the process?
2. The android inner phone memory is split in two correct? One of the partition is called SD card and is usually in the path /mnt/SDcard or similar.
If I do this "going pristine" and clean up everything, will I have to remake the partitions?
2.1 I also have an external SD card. A full factory wipe (which I assume is the same as to say "go pristine") won't affect it correct? (either I'm removing it during the process (just in case))
I just hate in the phone lags and freezes. But I also suck at typing on a touchscreen so I really need Swiftkey, I even bought the app and it works nicely, but it is a little heavy and I notice the phone takes a few seconds to load it. I also need Dolphin browser because of the browser syncing feature (so I can see the tabs from chrome there).
Is the Pacman rom you recomended earlier fluid? Or should I expect it to be laggy with these slightly heavy apps?
thanks for the help so far

First about kingdom rush , it's not because of the Gapps version, it's because of the base of the rom itself ( whether ICS or JB) which defines everything later on like wt kernel it should use or which gapps to flash or what apps can't be downloaded from playstore due to android version incompatiblity with the app
now to the questions
1. yes it should be enough
1.1 it's preferable but not a must , there will be an impact but not that big
2. a hazy question , sounds like a bunch of questions all together , but lets try answering it (them) , there are alot of partitions but let's focus on just two for now : a) /data which is 1.07 GB and the apps installed and have their data stored on it .... b) /mnt/sdcard or similar names which is 1.7 GB and stores your media in addition to some data of the apps (mostly media data like images of viber or whatsapp) , to go pristine is to format this partition as well which as i told u b4 don't get backed up during the process so ull have to copy its folders & files urself to an external sdcard or to ur pc ....... u won't have to remake any partitions , just click format on the desired partition while ur in the recovery and it will be wiped and reformatted automatically
2.1 actually it depends on whether u click format external_sdcard or not , but i usually remove it b4 i do any format to make sure its safe and if i wanna format it then i do it on pc after making a copy of it on my pc
for a keyboard u can try Kii keyboard, it seems good to me
ive never tried pacman so u shall be the one to tell me how it work's for u

mosta_9741 said:
First about kingdom rush , it's not because of the Gapps version, it's because of the base of the rom itself ( whether ICS or JB) which defines everything later on like wt kernel it should use or which gapps to flash or what apps can't be downloaded from playstore due to android version incompatiblity with the app
now to the questions
1. yes it should be enough
1.1 it's preferable but not a must , there will be an impact but not that big
2. a hazy question , sounds like a bunch of questions all together , but lets try answering it (them) , there are alot of partitions but let's focus on just two for now : a) /data which is 1.07 GB and the apps installed and have their data stored on it .... b) /mnt/sdcard or similar names which is 1.7 GB and stores your media in addition to some data of the apps (mostly media data like images of viber or whatsapp) , to go pristine is to format this partition as well which as i told u b4 don't get backed up during the process so ull have to copy its folders & files urself to an external sdcard or to ur pc ....... u won't have to remake any partitions , just click format on the desired partition while ur in the recovery and it will be wiped and reformatted automatically
2.1 actually it depends on whether u click format external_sdcard or not , but i usually remove it b4 i do any format to make sure its safe and if i wanna format it then i do it on pc after making a copy of it on my pc
for a keyboard u can try Kii keyboard, it seems good to me
ive never tried pacman so u shall be the one to tell me how it work's for u
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1 & 1.1 - I feel more at ease now
2 I kinda figured that there were more partitions(by messing with cmw) but I found it odd that there were so many partitions. I guess that explains that.
I use a file explored and I'm a bit OCD'ish about where I keep my stuff, so all of media is mostly in SD card and probably backed up more times than I'd like.
If some apps may be incompatible and it's best not to restore the data from apps since it's a new ROM and may cause incompatibility I might as well just install them from scratch, at least that way I can rid of those apps I never really used but I didn't want to delete (you know, like Shazam, I rarely use it, but I want it around just in case)
My only last question seems to already be answered (which was how to repartition the phone memories). So you're saying that by doing the factory reset the partitions will not be affected (let me rephrase that, the data inside the partitions is going to be deleted but the partitions themselves will stay)?
So at this point all I need to do is go to recovery mode, select factory reset for each of the partitions, clearing them one by one, then clear cache, dalvik cache and then select "install rom from external SD card" and after that just hit "fix permissions", a reboot and I'd be good to go?
PS: I'm going to try Kii keyboard. But I feel kinda bad not using Swiftkey since I already payed for it and all... that's what you get for buying apps XD (fyi I know, or at least I'm pretty sure, I can reinstall swiftkey again at any time and continue with the paid version)
Maybe I should go back to the alphanumeric keyboards... bigger buttons pressed more times... not the best but... I miss my blackberry keyboard, I typed in that thing like a lightning.

(let me rephrase that, the data inside the partitions is going to be deleted but the partitions themselves will stay)? YES, all data will be wiped but partitions stay the same
At CWM recovery , go to advanced, clear dalvike, then back to main menu select mount and format , go thr and format the desired partitions, then back again and select install update or zip or blablah (i cant remember) , choose the location wr ur rom zip is then select it , fix permissions isnt done unless instructed by the rom dev or if u face bootloops or FC after flashing the rom
(fyi I know, or at least I'm pretty sure, I can reinstall swiftkey again at any time and continue with the paid version) lol man, u seem to b funny
alphanumeric buttons have only ONE advantage which is " u can type without looking at the screen even wn ur crossing the street "

mosta_9741 said:
(let me rephrase that, the data inside the partitions is going to be deleted but the partitions themselves will stay)? YES, all data will be wiped but partitions stay the same
At CWM recovery , go to advanced, clear dalvike, then back to main menu select mount and format , go thr and format the desired partitions, then back again and select install update or zip or blablah (i cant remember) , choose the location wr ur rom zip is then select it , fix permissions isnt done unless instructed by the rom dev or if u face bootloops or FC after flashing the rom
(fyi I know, or at least I'm pretty sure, I can reinstall swiftkey again at any time and continue with the paid version) lol man, u seem to b funny
alphanumeric buttons have only ONE advantage which is " u can type without looking at the screen even wn ur crossing the street "
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I assume the desired partions would be all, in my case since I'm going pristine. I'm going to try this later this weekend. And walking in the street and tryping without looking (which even that I don't think I can do) would be a great asset, since when facing direct light you can barely see anything on the Wonder's screen. I wish the glass was anti reflexion.

[Q] internal storage problem

my phone storage says that it's almost full but when i plug it into to my pc to delete some of the files it doesn't show them... i just installed the liquid smooth rom which doesn't come with file reader app and i can't download one because of the low storage. how can i fix this?

is it possible that the internal storage got bad sectors?

JurrienXR said:
my phone storage says that it's almost full but when i plug it into to my pc to delete some of the files it doesn't show them... i just installed the liquid smooth rom which doesn't come with file reader app and i can't download one because of the low storage. how can i fix this?
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Why do you mess around with such roms?
There are so many excellent Samsung Touchwiz Jellybean 4.1.2 and 4.1.1 customized roms here
in these xda threads and you have to pick one of the AOSP/AOKP or PORTED android roms.
All these AOSP/AOKP or PORTED roms are excellent for for developers and for those people who who really
want to learn about the android operating system and like to do a lot of experimentation with their cell phones.
First thing in my opinion which you should do is to Odin flash back to a stock rooted Touchwiz Jellybean 4.1.2 or 4.1.1
rom to start with, after doing that you can choose from many samsung touchwiz 4.1.2/4.1.1 fully customized roms.
After flashing one of the stock rooted 4.1.2/4.1.2 Odin flash roms, you will no longer have issues with your sdcards not working properly.
Good luck, if you need information about how to Odin flash and or where to download the roms let me know.

JurrienXR said:
my phone storage says that it's almost full but when i plug it into to my pc to delete some of the files it doesn't show them... i just installed the liquid smooth rom which doesn't come with file reader app and i can't download one because of the low storage. how can i fix this?
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1) Ignore above post.
2) Nandroid to extsd. If you don't have one, shame on you. Get one.
3) Wipe data/factory reset, wipe /data/media (this is going to wipe your intsd, back up anything you can).
4) If that doesn't work, it's most likely bad sectors.

Aerowinder said:
1) Ignore above post.
2) Nandroid to extsd. If you don't have one, shame on you. Get one.
3) Wipe data/factory reset, wipe /data/media (this is going to wipe your intsd, back up anything you can).
4) If that doesn't work, it's most likely bad sectors.
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wipe/data/media worked. couldn't back up anything though, but fixing the problem was more important. Thank u :victory:

[Q] how do I update CWMRv6.0.1.2 to Mobile ODIN v3.65 GS3 SPH-L710

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As stated before my phone keeps having hard resets. I believe its due to improper installation due to recovery. I am currently on CWMR v6.0.1.2
I want to know if there is a way to update this to a more up to date version so that I may install and run the wicked sensations v.4 or any other modern ROM. I was running a older version of PHANTOM Blaze (last years or so model) I really am new to the rooting game and I am trying to understand the lingo as I want to help others unlock the power and potential of their "smartphones".I guess what i need to know is how do I update from the version of CWMR i am running to one with ODIN (a newer model). I think if I do this I can destroy the random hard resets.
Any advice? (thanks will be given.)

I do not believe your resets are caused by the recovery at all. Also CWM has nothing to do with Odin, two separate programs. CWM works with the phone itself. Odin is a program which you run on your computer and connect your phone to the computer and you put the phone in download mode. There is a Mobil Odin also available.
To answer your question the easiest way to update CWM is to download Rom Manager app from Google Play Store. Within that app it gives you the ability to check for updates for CWM and flash it right through the app.
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edfunkycold said:
I do not believe your resets are caused by the recovery at all. Also CWM has nothing to do with Odin, two separate programs. CWM works with the phone itself. Odin is a program which you run on your computer and connect your phone to the computer and you put the phone in download mode. There is a Mobil Odin also available.
To answer your question the easiest way to update CWM is to download Rom Manager app from Google Play Store. Within that app it gives you the ability to check for updates for CWM and flash it right through the app.
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so any idea whats causing the hardresets..i updated my cwm like you said now what?
It says i now have Rom Manager premium v5.5.2.8 and teh current recovery is: Team Win Recovery Project. Im not sure what I should do now.

M F Money said:
DISCLAIMER:::: This Is my second thread.I AM A LOWLY NOOB..PLEASE GREAT ONES HELP::
Rather than bury this question in another long thread I made another if I am wrong in this please delete or move to proper thread(mods).
Anyway.
As stated before my phone keeps having hard resets. I believe its due to improper installation due to recovery. I am currently on CWMR v6.0.1.2
I want to know if there is a way to update this to a more up to date version so that I may install and run the wicked sensations v.4 or any other modern ROM. I was running a older version of PHANTOM Blaze (last years or so model) I really am new to the rooting game and I am trying to understand the lingo as I want to help others unlock the power and potential of their "smartphones".I guess what i need to know is how do I update from the version of CWMR i am running to one with ODIN (a newer model). I think if I do this I can destroy the random hard resets.
Any advice? (thanks will be given.)
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You can use the Rom Manager App to install the latest CWM recovery (see this thread)
Can you boot into recovery mode? If you can, Naddict has created recoveries that are able to be flashed from the recovery itself. That might be one was to upgrade to the latest. Also, CNexus has created an aroma installer that can switch recoveries on the fly. It's a really neat program, but also requires access to recovery mode.

topherk said:
You can use the Rom Manager App to install the latest CWM recovery (see this thread)
Can you boot into recovery mode? If you can, Naddict has created recoveries that are able to be flashed from the recovery itself. That might be one was to upgrade to the latest. Also, CNexus has created an aroma installer that can switch recoveries on the fly. It's a really neat program, but also requires access to recovery mode.
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i can go to recovery but what is it taht is causing the hard resets?

M F Money said:
i can go to recovery but what is it taht is causing the hard resets?
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I seriously doubt that Recovery is causing reboots.
Did you restore any data or apps from Titanium Backup?
Any apps you recently installed that might be causing it?

topherk said:
You can use the Rom Manager App to install the latest CWM recovery (see this thread)
Can you boot into recovery mode? If you can, Naddict has created recoveries that are able to be flashed from the recovery itself. That might be one was to upgrade to the latest. Also, CNexus has created an aroma installer that can switch recoveries on the fly. It's a really neat program, but also requires access to recovery mode.
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i can go to recovery but what is it that is causing the hard resets?

M F Money said:
i can go to recovery but what is it taht is causing the hard resets?
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Most likely your reboots are caused by rogue app and or bad data. The only way to isolate this is by reflashing the rom on a full clean install. Then loading apps all fresh not from a backup.
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Most likely your reboots are caused by rogue app and or bad data. The only way to isolate this is by reflashing the rom on a full clean install. Then loading apps all fresh not from a backup.
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What Ed said.
I'm 90% sure you've been restoring data (or not wiping enough when flashing the new ROM).
My standard procedure when flashing a ROM (even when just upgrading my current ROM to a new build) is the following:
Investigate ROM: If a ROM catches my eye, I always read the 1st post in great detail to understand the ROM and it's features. I also look for things like "known bugs" and installation instructions. I then read the last 5-10 pages of the thread to see what the users have to say about the ROM (bugs, issues, fixes, etc). Once I understand the pros and cons of the Rom, I decide if I want to flash it. A lot of "noobs" on here don't read the last 5-10 pages and get into trouble when flashing because of it. I always read at least that much and recommend doing so to others.
Download ROM and check md5sum: I download the ROM to my computer, check the md5sum, and copy it to my phone. Then I check the md5sum again.
Make a backup: Just in case (and it's saved me many a time).
So Fresh and so Clean Clean Wipe: Wipe /data, /system, cache and dalvik cache. This removes all remnants of my previous OS (/system) and any app data that could be left behind (/data). Sometime, if I'm looking for a really fresh start, I'll wipe the internal memory. But that's typically not necessary.
Install Rom: If the ROM has an Aroma installer, I just follow the instructions on it. They're typically straight forward. If there's no Aroma installer, I just flash the ROM and let it do it's thing. If it's an AOSP Rom, I also flash the appropriate gapps, which you don't have to do for TW Roms (gapps are included for them).
Re-download your Apps from Play Store: I know it's quicker to just hit "restore" on TiBu, but since you're having issues with reboots, that's the last thing you should try. The Play Store keeps a record of all of your previously-installed apps, so it's easy to re-install them.
If you follow the above, you shouldn't have any issues with your Rom (that aren't ROM-related).
If you're interested, you can also troubleshoot what was causing the reboots:
Slowly restore data to your apps that need it: Here is where you want to be very careful. In TiBu, if you just go through and restore all data for all apps, you won't know what's causing boot loops. What I'd do is prioritize your data restores. Restore the ones you need most often.
Restore one App's data: If there's an App that must have data restored (game saves), restore only that app's data.
Check to see if the phone has reboot problems: Use the phone normally for a while (a few hours) and see if it reboots. If it doesn't then that app wasn't the cause of the bootloops.
Rinse and Repeat: Repeat steps 2-3 for each app you must have the data restored for. Many apps, like Dropbox, don't need their data restored, you just need to log in again. Again, prioritize which apps you need to restore.
Hope you get your reboots worked out!