New defy user needs help.. - Defy General

Hey friends...
My friend has recently bought a defy in India... It came with eclair...
Now he wants to upgrade to gingerbread... But he doesn't want to root... So can anyone please help me? As I'm a Samsung user, I don't know anything about Motorola devices or how to upgrade them... So I would appreciate a noob friendly guide...
Thanks...

u cannot upgrade to gingerbread w/o rooting...defy has got the official froyo, not gingerbread..
please read the pinned posts if u wish to know how to flash a custom gingerbread rom..

adiles said:
Hey friends...
My friend has recently bought a defy in India... It came with eclair...
Now he wants to upgrade to gingerbread... But he doesn't want to root... So can anyone please help me? As I'm a Samsung user, I don't know anything about Motorola devices or how to upgrade them... So I would appreciate a noob friendly guide...
Thanks...
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He can update to Froyo, but there is no official Gingerbread update from Motorola for the Defy (and there will never be one).
If he doesn't want to tinker a bit he won't get Gingerbread (there are also 2.3 ports of the Defy Plus that work quite well, but rooting is necessary to install anything like that).

adiles said:
Hey friends...
My friend has recently bought a defy in India... It came with eclair...
Now he wants to upgrade to gingerbread... But he doesn't want to root... So can anyone please help me? As I'm a Samsung user, I don't know anything about Motorola devices or how to upgrade them... So I would appreciate a noob friendly guide...
Thanks...
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You should read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1216982

Thanks for your replies... one last question...
After rooting and flashing a gb rom, is there a way to go back to fully stock?
Thanks...

adiles said:
Thanks for your replies... one last question...
After rooting and flashing a gb rom, is there a way to go back to fully stock?
Thanks...
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I still think you got everything you need in ChirmiPlay's post with link just above your last posting

adiles said:
Thanks for your replies... one last question...
After rooting and flashing a gb rom, is there a way to go back to fully stock?
Thanks...
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You can mess around with your Defy s much as you want, root, install ROMs, flash sbfs... And you can ALWAYS go back to the stock Foyo/ Eclair firmware your Defy came with. Even if something went wrong and the phone doesn't boot anymore, just flash a stock clean Motorola firmware and everything's gone (the ROM you had before, also the root). So also if your Defy has a hardware problem and you want to send it back, just go back to stock before and you don't have to worry about the warranty.

Arjoma said:
You can mess around with your Defy s much as you want, root, install ROMs, flash sbfs... And you can ALWAYS go back to the stock Foyo/ Eclair firmware your Defy came with.
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I don't think so. if you changed the bootloader version you will be stuck on some higher kernel and can not easily go back.. (that was what happend to epsylon3 - one of the main devs of CM9 for defy) - so if you flashed official froyo - you will not be able to go back to eclair for example. (as is also pointed out here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966537)
A piece of advice: read a lot (here in this forums) before you flash something. It help you not getting in trouble with your phone.

adiles said:
Thanks for your replies... one last question...
After rooting and flashing a gb rom, is there a way to go back to fully stock?
Thanks...
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There is no point in using defy with the buggy stock Eclair/Froyo ..
If u want to see the complete potential of defy Root it and Install CM7..
and yes you can go back when ever you want but make sure u take the Nandroid backup of the stock ROM that u r using and check whether the official sbf of ur region is available to download.so that u can flash it and restore the nandroid backup .. !!

mearoth said:
I don't think so. if you changed the bootloader version you will be stuck on some higher kernel and can not easily go back..
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Right, that was the only thing I wasn't thinking about. That is what is usually written in big red letters when there's something about these sbfs. But normally there is no need to change the bootloader version by installing the (not fixed) 2.3.4 sbf.
The only really current reliable options for the Defy imho are CM7.1, MIUI (and some versions based on it) and the Defy+ based ROMs (like MS2Ginger). With none of them you risk to be stuck somewhere - I flashed stock Froyo a dozen times without problems.

Thanks all for your replies....
I'll root and flash cm today....

adiles said:
Thanks all for your replies....
I'll root and flash cm today....
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Good luck!

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Possible root for official 2.1... (Confirmed not Working)

EDIT: It doesn't work, let's move on.
Just saw this now, apparently it works for all HTC 2.1 devices using the 'fake ota' method.
I will rewrite the guide here once someone has confirmed it works.
I can not and will not test this as I wasn't stupid enough to flash the official 2.1 RUU.
http://forum.androidspin.com/showthread.php?p=13939#post13939
Once you get to clockwork mod recovery you should be able to flash a custom rom!
Thanks to Eugene373 for this
42turkeys said:
Just saw this now, apparently it works for all HTC 2.1 devices using the 'fake ota' method.
I will rewrite the guide here once someone has confirmed it works.
I can not and will not test this as I wasn't stupid enough to flash the official 2.1 RUU.
http://forum.androidspin.com/showthread.php?p=13939#post13939
Once you get to clockwork mod recovery you should be able to flash a custom rom!
Thanks to Eugene373 for this
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Reports on the guide website suggest that this will NOT work for HTC Hero users or in fact any phone which did not originally ship with v2.1 of Android.
I'd love someone to prove this wrong so keep trying but don't get your hopes up.
another explaination - not tested
here is another explaination to root cdma hera - don't know if it works or not, don't know if it's the same for gsm hero
http://www.gadgetsdna.com/how-to-root-htc-hero-cdma-stock-android-2-1/3628/
jergud said:
here is another explaination to root cdma hera - don't know if it works or not, don't know if it's the same for gsm hero
http://www.gadgetsdna.com/how-to-root-htc-hero-cdma-stock-android-2-1/3628/
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don't work, I've tested it.
42turkeys said:
Just saw this now, apparently it works for all HTC 2.1 devices using the 'fake ota' method.
I will rewrite the guide here once someone has confirmed it works.
I can not and will not test this as I wasn't stupid enough to flash the official 2.1 RUU.
http://forum.androidspin.com/showthread.php?p=13939#post13939
Once you get to clockwork mod recovery you should be able to flash a custom rom!
Thanks to Eugene373 for this
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I am stupid enough, falsh Chunghwa official 2.1 RUU,test above,don't work.no hope......
found another one - cdma again
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694572
don't know if it works with gsm hero
zmgbyn said:
I am stupid enough, falsh Chunghwa official 2.1 RUU,test above,don't work.no hope......
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me too...flashed Chunghwa..:| cannot go back no more...
qqragoon said:
me too...flashed Chunghwa..:| cannot go back no more...
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did you try this way too ? : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694572
I just wan't to make it more clear to my self. If I understood you ppl right, there is no possible way to root official GSM 2.1? Or am I wrong?
And does anyone know, how fast we will get rooted GMS EU 2.1 after it is released? Fast thing to do?
Also first part of OTA (YouTube update), i hope it didn't take ability to root from me?
shadow_fi said:
I just wan't to make it more clear to my self. If I understood you ppl right, there is no possible way to root official GSM 2.1? Or am I wrong?
And does anyone know, how fast we will get rooted GMS EU 2.1 after it is released? Fast thing to do?
Also first part of OTA (YouTube update), i hope it didn't take ability to root from me?
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There is no known way, yet.
There are already rooted GSM custom rom's based upon the 2.1 releases which have happened so far. It takes dev's a few hours from release usually to get them into the public domain.
shadow_fi said:
I just wan't to make it more clear to my self. If I understood you ppl right, there is no possible way to root official GSM 2.1? Or am I wrong?
And does anyone know, how fast we will get rooted GMS EU 2.1 after it is released? Fast thing to do?
Also first part of OTA (YouTube update), i hope it didn't take ability to root from me?
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If you installed the latest ota just downgrade & root.
For rooting the europe 2.1 I aim to be as fast as last time but it depends on when it is released.
jergud said:
did you try this way too ? : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694572
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I've tested it , can't work!
Some more tests:
Press Home + power then Press VOL UP + Power:
Lost recovery appear,But not use, signature error!
42turkeys said:
If you installed the latest ota just downgrade & root.
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You mean if I installed this "YouTube" OTA update and have 2.73.405.93, i have to downgrade? Even if this is still 1.5?
shadow_fi said:
You mean if I installed this "YouTube" OTA update and have 2.73.405.93, i have to downgrade? Even if this is still 1.5?
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Yeah, just follow mine or btdag's guide and be happy!
42turkeys said:
Yeah, just follow mine or btdag's guide and be happy!
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Well then IMO you have to add to your guide.
"First, you need to downgrade your ROM to 2.73.xxx.x"
Like: "Also downgrade 2.73.405.93, even if it starts with 2.73...".
Btw: If I would flash Part 2 OTA update, 2.1 andoird, would it be as easy as now, to downgrade?
shadow_fi said:
Well then IMO you have to add to your guide.
"First, you need to downgrade your ROM to 2.73.xxx.x"
Like: "Also downgrade 2.73.405.93, even if it starts with 2.73...".
Btw: If I would flash Part 2 OTA update, 2.1 andoird, would it be as easy as now, to downgrade?
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You can't downgrade once you flash part 2 as the version will change from 2.73.xxx.xx
Yeah I do need to change that, I just couldn't remember it when I was writing it!

[Q] Manually update to stock 2.3?

Hey guys, im looking for a friend of mine how to update a desire from 2.2 to 2.3, he doesnt get an update if he goes to about phone -> check for updates (it says its latest version), so i was wondering if there is a method to flash the update over cable on the phone. to be clear, he would like the stock 2.3 from htc not cyanogenmod or custom roms.
thanks for the help guys
Its not out yet. If your friend has a branded Desire, it will take longer for the update to go through because carriers are like that. If it's unbranded then the update should come through straight away.
Swyped...
thank you very much, i searched for that ont he internet and mostly it said coming may so i was confused... thanks anyways guess he needs one of the custom roms ^ ^
crnkoj said:
thank you very much, i searched for that ont he internet and mostly it said coming may so i was confused... thanks anyways guess he needs one of the custom roms ^ ^
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There are plenty of 2.3 custom roms but he will need to root the phone first.
Otherwise you have to wait as above!
Ye, thanks, checked them a bit.

Should I root HC or wait for ICS?

I've had my a100 for about three weeks now. At first I didn't see a need to root but I find the empty space on my screen such a waste where I could fill with icons and widgets. And then there's the bloatware - ugh!
My question is should I just root HC or wait for a stable ICS Rom? I really don't want to keep flashing back and forth either. Just wanted some opinions, thank you.
[Sent from my *voided* HTC EVO 4G running CM7 using Tapatalk]
iamdestruktor said:
I've had my a100 for about three weeks now. At first I didn't see a need to root but I find the empty space on my screen such a waste where I could fill with icons and widgets. And then there's the bloatware - ugh!
My question is should I just root HC or wait for a stable ICS Rom? I really don't want to keep flashing back and forth either. Just wanted some opinions, thank you.
[Sent from my *voided* HTC EVO 4G running CM7 using Tapatalk]
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.....and what exactly are you waiting on? Just go ahead and root with this very easy method here ---> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1472521
It appears that ZeroNull has posted the official ICS rom for the a100 here ---> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25130266&postcount=423
I have been going back and forth between HC and ICS and now I am on my HC waiting for a "stable ICS rom." Hopefully what has been posted in the 2nd link will be the ICS fixes i've been waiting for (touch screen fixes...compatibility etc)...
cheeb said:
.....and what exactly are you waiting on? Just go ahead and root with this very easy method here ---> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1472521
It appears that ZeroNull has posted the official ICS rom for the a100 here ---> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25130266&postcount=423
I have been going back and forth between HC and ICS and now I am on my HC waiting for a "stable ICS rom." Hopefully what has been posted in the 2nd link will be the ICS fixes i've been waiting for (touch screen fixes...compatibility etc)...
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Hello,
Have you tried the stock rom for ICS ? If so is it relatively stable ?
dansul said:
Hello,
Have you tried the stock rom for ICS ? If so is it relatively stable ?
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Very stable....alot of the touch issues have been fixed....it is currently going to be my everyday rom....
quick question
Hello,
Thanks for all the good info from. Everyone! I am currently rooted with HC 3.2 does anyone know if when the ics update is released next week, if people that are rooted will have any issues getting the ota update? I'm guessing no, but if anyone has an definitive answer that would be great.
Thanks for the help and I have not flashed anything only rooted that's all thru terminal emuator method sorry forgot exact name. Been rooted for about four months right around when the leak was released was when I rooted, but decided to wait for the officialupdate to get the Acer ring and have no problems.
Thanks for the help you all are da sh!t
Cooper 5150 said:
Hello,
Thanks for all the good info from. Everyone! I am currently rooted with HC 3.2 does anyone know if when the ics update is released next week, if people that are rooted will have any issues getting the ota update? I'm guessing no, but if anyone has an definitive answer that would be great.
Thanks for the help and I have not flashed anything only rooted that's all thru terminal emuator method sorry forgot exact name. Been rooted for about four months right around when the leak was released was when I rooted, but decided to wait for the officialupdate to get the Acer ring and have no problems.
Thanks for the help you all are da sh!t
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If youre just rooted then you should still see the update. So long as you dont change anything like build.prop, or remove any OEM files you should be good to go with the OTA. Also download OTA Rootkeep app and protect root now. Once you do the OTA just restore root via the app and thats it. No need to reroot with any other method.
ICS will not resolve your problem with the empty spaces from both sides (landscape mode).
Rooting may be.If you change the DPI in build.prop you can fill the whole screen but then in portrait mode you will not be able to see everything.Actually this spaces are still empty in portrait mode but are up and down.

Any Custom ROM to Official ICS Tutorial Needed

Hello can anyone write a tutorial that will send any T989 with custom ROM and RADIO to it's original configuration so Kias can upgrade phone to ICS ? Let's say I am on Darkside with radio from Blaze 4G and I do have my original ROM backed up with ROM Manager ....now what ? From what I understand I need 3 things to make a smooth transition.
1. Original 2.3.6
2. Original RADIO
3. No Custom Recovery (no clockwork)
I may be incorrect on clockwork but I know for sure radio and rom has to be exact. So is there anyone can write a tutorial that will put any T989 and ANY Custom ROM to it's original state ? (I hjope it's even possible)
Thank you.
Thread here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1513359
usernotfound said:
Thread here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1513359
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Aha !
So with this I can safely say that Kias will have no problem with my phone right ?
Thank you very much !
russiandivxclub said:
Aha !
So with this I can safely say that Kias will have no problem with my phone right ?
Thank you very much !
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I guess that link is for old stock ROM (ULKL1) . They upgrade it one more time before IcS to UVLDE. There is thread on general section.
Follow that
Sent from my SGH-T989 using xda premium
bikrame said:
I guess that link is for old stock ROM (ULKL1) . They upgrade it one more time before IcS to UVLDE. There is thread on general section.
Follow that
Sent from my SGH-T989 using xda premium
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Is that mean I'll have to do an upgrade before I can do ICS ? Or I can just go from that straight to ICS ?
if you find the UVLDE md5.tar file in whatever thread it is in, you only need to go back to that STOCK version, there is no further update from that.
You can then do the ICS update after that.
russiandivxclub said:
Hello can anyone write a tutorial that will send any T989 with custom ROM and RADIO to it's original configuration so Kias can upgrade phone to ICS ? Let's say I am on Darkside with radio from Blaze 4G and I do have my original ROM backed up with ROM Manager ....now what ? From what I understand I need 3 things to make a smooth transition.
1. Original 2.3.6
2. Original RADIO
3. No Custom Recovery (no clockwork)
I may be incorrect on clockwork but I know for sure radio and rom has to be exact. So is there anyone can write a tutorial that will put any T989 and ANY Custom ROM to it's original state ? (I hjope it's even possible)
Thank you.
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Why not wait a few days for us to play with it first? Updating through Kies could render your device unrootable. With what I have been reading/hearing they may lock the bootloader and make it impossible to root until a security flaw is found and exploited. This could take days to even months if even possible. Like I said, my advice is to wait.
Jamison904 said:
Why not wait a few days for us to play with it first? Updating through Kies could render your device unrootable. With what I have been reading/hearing they may lock the bootloader and make it impossible to root until a security flaw is found and exploited. This could take days to even months if even possible. Like I said, my advice is to wait.
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Crap ...... well I am with ICS now and hoping for ROOT ATM meanwhile I just glad whole process was painless and straight forward. One question if possible. So at this stage It'll be impossible to use same guide and return to 2.3.6 stock from before right ?
Thanks !

Restore from Custom Rom

Hi,
I am needing some help please, I recently restored back to stock rom T989UVLH1 running 4.0.4, Kernal 3.0.8, Build IMM76D.UVLH1
Done via Odin,
All is ok except I am missing Android Beam and NFC, is there somethig I missed? I am trying to get phone ready for sell.
Thanks
Lee
did you download the stock Firmware from SamMobile page ? I can't see how something like this could happen.
bsd1101 said:
did you download the stock Firmware from SamMobile page ? I can't see how something like this could happen.
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Agreed ^^^
Thanks will give that a shot, it was not from there I am sure, it was from a post in the ROMs section. Sorry for the n00b question.
I used to root and update alot back in my Moto Cliq days.

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