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[REF] TMobile Official Response to Wifi Calling

i didn't see any wifi caling in the phone, do you guys know why.
Thank you

alibox87 said:
i didn't see any wifi caling in the phone, do you guys know why.
Thank you
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Its under wifi settings
simply ginger

tennandcoz1 said:
Its under wifi settings
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what where?

I didn't see it ?????????

I went to the store this morning and they said if you have the newest sim which comes with the phone, then you will see it in settings.

There is no wifi calling at launch, you do need to use the new sim in order to support a new wifi calling feature later this year
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Wreximus said:
There is no wifi calling at launch, you do need to use the new sim in order to support a new wifi calling feature later this year
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Where is this information coming from?

Yea I didn't see wifi calling either. I am disappointed.
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I Havent got mine yet but my wife works there and supposedly you have to use the sim card that comes with the phone

Can someone who has the phone actually try to initiate a call with wifi calling?
You have to have the new sim that came with the phone. This will not work with an old sim from your previous phone.

I'm using the new sim that was in the box, and i'm not seeing how to initiate wifi calling.
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I am using the new SIM. I am connected to Wifi. I don't see any Wifi calling options anywhere...

zaventh said:
I am using the new SIM. I am connected to Wifi. I don't see any Wifi calling options anywhere...
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There should be a check box in the same screen wifi was initiated in.

Jjday7 said:
There should be a check box in the same screen wifi was initiated in.
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Nope... I see only two checkboxes... Wifi (Enable/Disable) and Network notification... below that is WPS button conneciton and then the list of wireless networks.

I appreciate you looking onto it. That sucks if that option isn't or doesn't become available.

i took mines back because of this and hotspot being blocked.. grrrrr

Okay back i called t-mobile a couple of times. They thought the people were talking about sip, skype, voip calling. Not the wifi calling that t-mobile made. The one that seem to most tech savy rep said there will be a patch to add it but don't know when it will come. The amaze 4g already has it build in under wireless settings.

Killbynature said:
Okay back i called t-mobile a couple of times. They thought the people were talking about sip, skype, voip calling. Not the wifi calling that t-mobile made. The one that seem to most tech savy rep said there will be a patch to add it but don't know when it will come. The amaze 4g already has it build in under wireless settings.
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Not enough for me to return the phone but really need that option. Oh well....now we wait

For kicks I installed Kineto (Wifi Calling app) and tried to run it... immediately FCs. Oh well. Perhaps this feature can be "unlocked" with a custom ROM that re-adds SIP support to the device. I thought I read somewhere that it is excluded by default.

zaventh said:
For kicks I installed Kineto (Wifi Calling app) and tried to run it... immediately FCs. Oh well. Perhaps this feature can be "unlocked" with a custom ROM that re-adds SIP support to the device. I thought I read somewhere that it is excluded by default.
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we would have to wait till samsung makes a wifi calling as the one we have now uses htc libs. Sip support is there just not wifi calling for t-mobile sip comes with all gingerbread phones.

Texting over wifi

I have international texting plan and I'm going to be traveling overseas. I know if I use wifi calling feature and call back to US it's not going to overcharge me. I called T-Mobile and asked them if same applies to texting but no one seems to know the answer for sure. Would it charge me extra if I have wifi calling enable and I'm texting an international number from overseas, since I've international texting plan?

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Google voice
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GorillaPimp said:
Google voice
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was about to say google voice

Yes but google voice only works in U.S. As soon as you cross the border to canada or a different county google voice, hulu and bunch of other stuff doesn't work. Even some of my amazon apps won't work if I am in a different county.

This is just a shot in the dark. I need to update my sim card to use wifi calling, and i cant remember if your phone will allow a call in airplane mode (to turn your radio off) with wifi on. if it does maybe you can test the same for texts.
Upon further review it seems data must be on even for wifi calling....maybe theres an app out there that can help you out

media_11 said:
Yes but google voice only works in U.S. As soon as you cross the border to canada or a different county google voice, hulu and bunch of other stuff doesn't work. Even some of my amazon apps won't work if I am in a different county.
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I've used my GV to text to the US while in Russia and Germany with no issues last year.
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Google voice doesn't work in Canada. I guess my question is if we have wifi calling feature on, the phone is not using its own data but the text msgs is routed thru wifi, so I shouldn't be charged for those text since I have unlimited international texting. Am I correct?

media_11 said:
Google voice doesn't work in Canada. I guess my question is if we have wifi calling feature on, the phone is not using its own data but the text msgs is routed thru wifi, so I shouldn't be charged for those text since I have unlimited international texting. Am I correct?
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I just came back from canada 2 weeks ago and was using google voice perfectly fine. I was using it for calls though, not texts.

I am currently in the Dominican Republic, and google voice works just fine here. I am not able to setup a new account here but as long as the account was made in the U.S. first, then it can be used when going over sees.

there are plenty of alternatives, but to answer the original question, yes, it will charge you extra. Wifi calling does not support sms.

Actually Im in Canada right now and wifi calling works awesome. I have been calling and texting from the airports, coffee shops and hotels using their wifi. As of right now, I checked my account on TMobile.com and there is no additional charges.
If I am correct, after registering on tmobile network, wifi calling routes ur calling thru wifi instead of using a cell tower. During the wifi calling feature enables, ur cell tower is disabled so ur texting should be routed thru wifi also.
Please correct me if I m wrong.

media_11 said:
Actually Im in Canada right now and wifi calling works awesome. I have been calling and texting from the airports, coffee shops and hotels using their wifi. As of right now, I checked my account on TMobile.com and there is no additional charges.
If I am correct, after registering on tmobile network, wifi calling routes ur calling thru wifi instead of using a cell tower. During the wifi calling feature enables, ur cell tower is disabled so ur texting should be routed thru wifi also.
Please correct me if I m wrong.
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That is how it works and sms messages are routed through wifi too but it wouldnt be the first time a carrier found a way to charge for services not rendered, remember att and charging people for using data over wifi. I think you should be able to swing a credit if they do try to charge you. In the future you could use a vpn to your home in the us and use gv or whatever free.
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To be honest tmobile has been very good to me so far. I switched to tmobile from AT&T cuz of their really bad customer service. Google voice works good too but I hate to explain to people why I'm calling/texting from a different number. Aspecially when I travel without informing my boss lol.

media_11 said:
To be honest tmobile has been very good to me so far. I switched to tmobile from AT&T cuz of their really bad customer service. Google voice works good too but I hate to explain to people why I'm calling/texting from a different number. Aspecially when I travel without informing my boss lol.
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Lol @ the secret vacation
Tmo has been good to me too but I dont want to forget what carriers are capable of, dont want to get blindsided.
Yeah explaining to friends about the second number feels weird. Like I have a secret life and a burner phone or something.
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I have tmo and another simple mobile phone that I use for international calling. Some girls I work with already think that I'm a drug dealer cuz I carry 2 phones...I can't imagine how would I explain google voice number to them. They are not very tech savvy and I don't think they would understand how a virtual google voice number would work. Do you guys ever struggle sometimes explaining tech stuff to friends or coworkers?

media_11 said:
I have tmo and another simple mobile phone that I use for international calling. Some girls I work with already think that I'm a drug dealer cuz I carry 2 phones...I can't imagine how would I explain google voice number to them. They are not very tech savvy and I don't think they would understand how a virtual google voice number would work. Do you guys ever struggle sometimes explaining tech stuff to friends or coworkers?
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I just told them dont bother sending mms email the pic to me or google+ messneger which should be the native google voice app. Still wondering why google just doesnt fuse talk ,messenger and voice or at least have google+ voice integration
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[Q] SMS/Phone support on LTE version?

I've heard the original 3G Nexus 7 could send/recieve texts so I was thinking about replacing my nexus 4 with my 6 because I don't make many phone calls these days - just need a device for texting, browsing, and reading.
Could someone with the LTE version try installing the sms/dialer app and see if they work?
Thanks!

James.UBC said:
I've heard the original 3G Nexus 7 could send/recieve texts so I was thinking about replacing my nexus 4 with my 6 because I don't make many phone calls these days - just need a device for texting, browsing, and reading.
Could someone with the LTE version try installing the sms/dialer app and see if they work?
Thanks!
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ive read that 4g only transmits internet, and no texts or calls can be made on it

samdroids2a said:
ive read that 4g only transmits internet, and no texts or calls can be made on it
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WELL. If you wana get fancy, you can use a voip app if you wana make calls. Google voice will let you send text over wifi/data. It just doesn't do mms messages.

teh roxxorz said:
WELL. If you wana get fancy, you can use a voip app if you wana make calls. Google voice will let you send text over wifi/data. It just doesn't do mms messages.
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Canada
the cheapest data plans here are also more or less the same as the equivalent data only plans - especially with promotions/loyalty

James.UBC said:
Canada
the cheapest data plans here are also more or less the same as the equivalent data only plans - especially with promotions/loyalty
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Ah, well that definitely blows there guy. =/

I can text on my wifi model now using this app called tablet talk u can even dial a number or call somebody and itll start ringing on your phone its a neat app
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casonswag said:
I can text on my wifi model now using this app called tablet talk u can even dial a number or call somebody and itll start ringing on your phone its a neat app
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kinda wanted to skip the also-own-a-phone part

So, my plan is to purchase the lte version of this tablet on Verizon. Then use Google Voice to make calls and receive texts(replacing my SGN2 on occasion). Does anybody have any idea how much monthly data I should purchase(I will also be streaming music, browsing the web and social networks regularly).
And if anyone knows the rough amount of data used to make a voice call(to another phone) using Google Voice, I would love to know!
Thanks!

samdroids2a said:
ive read that 4g only transmits internet, and no texts or calls can be made on it
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From google/nexus/7
North America:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
HSPA+: 850/900/1900/1700/2100 (AWS) MHz (Bands: 1/2/4/5/8)
LTE: 700/750/850/1700/1800/1900/2100 MHZ (Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/13/17)
Europe:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
HSPA+: 850/900/1900/1700/2100 (AWS) MHz (Bands: 1/2/4/5/8)
LTE: 800/850/1700/1800/1900/2100/2600 MHz (Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/20)
So more than just 4G. Although I'm not sure where the no texts/calls on 4G comes from. If you could provide source I'd love to see it.
Unless you meant the Nexus 7 4G is Internet only and no text/calls:
If the cell chips are the same as the Nexus 4/Optimus G I'd love to see someone enable the calling features on the N7 2013. Although as We've seen with the N7 2012 that might be a difficult task.
HERE's HOPING!

You know - it's really frustrating when someone answers a question with what I'm sure to the person writing it seems to be a relevant and helpful comment - but has completely missed the point of the original question.
For example: the question here is essentially: The old Nexus could send texts/SMS - could someone install the dialer/message app on the new model with LTE and test this. A related question is 'can you use the cell model to do voice calls?'
In both cases, it should be clear that a part of the question is implied: 'in the same way you can do with a regular cellphone'. In fact, the guy actually SAYS this.
The actual correct answer is: no one has a Nexus 7 2013 LTE yet, so we just don't know.
"You can use application X to do VoiP" isn't actually a valid unless you start with "no - you can't do voice calls using the 3G or LTE radios, but..." because the question isn't 'is there ANY way to make a regular phone call on a tablet that doesn't support voice calls'.
Similarly "You can use application Y to do something kind of like texting/SMS" isn't a valid answer unless it can actually text or SMS to a phone that doesn't run a special app, or receive a text/SMS from a phone that's not running that app.
Or.. "Can you attach a USB Stick to the Nexus 7 2013 using an OTA USB cable?" It's safe to assume the user means 'without completely rearranging, rooting or flashing the Nexus'. So the actual answer is "no, no you can't." You could THEN follow up with "But if you're willing to..." Not everyone wants to put custom roms on their system or root it... so that's not an 'obvious' answer and it's really annoying when someone says 'yes! you can!' and then moves onto a page of instructions on how to modify your stock device to install all sorts of unknown and potentially dangerous software to get this one feature to work.
Oh and before someone says it - because someone will - yes, XDA is targeted to developers and experimenters - but XDA has become a trusted place for people to come and look for help even when they're not developers and experimenters. You can generally tell who these people are because they ask questions like 'can you use your Nexus 7 2013 LTE as a phone?' The regulars here already know that you can't use the 2012 model for that - and that the odds are low that the 2013 will let you do it either and so wouldn't be asking that question.
So at least try to make the answers match the audience or perhaps hold off answering until it makes more sense?

TheWerewolf said:
'can you use the cell model to do voice calls in the same way you can do with a regular cellphone?'
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Any new information?

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Picked up my LTE nexus 7 today in Australia.
Inserted my SIM card.
Installed Go SMS Pro.
Can send & receive standard SMS text messages via my mobile number.

sml12 said:
Picked up my LTE nexus 7 today in Australia.
Inserted my SIM card.
Installed Go SMS Pro.
Can send & receive standard SMS text messages via my mobile number.
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How about calls? Not VoIP since it can do them no problem

w1ll1m said:
How about calls? Not VoIP since it can do them no problem
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there is no dialler.

sml12 said:
there is no dialler.
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What about installing one and testing it out?
What happens if someone calls the number?

w1ll1m said:
What about installing one and testing it out?
What happens if someone calls the number?
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I called my phone number from my friend's iPhone and my mobile number was ringing when listening to the iPhone ... but nothing was happening on the nexus 7 LTE.
I tried to do this to get a dialler "install QuickShortcutMaker and make a shortcut to it. Search "phone" in the app. It should be the first result, under contacts."
But cannot find a dialler

I'm thinking of selling my n4 and buy a N7.
If that works I'm in
If not I'm gonna buy a Wi-Fi N7 either..
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FloMi said:
If that works I'm in
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if what works? let me know the steps and I'll give it a shot.

The phone thing
I didn't see your post before I sent mine
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I tried again using quickshortcutmaker ... the following shortcuts are possible when searching for 'dial':
Heading = Mobile Data .com.android.phone
Mobile Data - Emergency Dialer .com.android.phone/com.android.phone.EmergencyDialer
Mobile Data = Fixed Dialing Numbers .com.android.phone/com/android.phone.FdnSetting
Mobile Data = EcmExitDialog .com etc etc
Emergency Dialer - did permit me to try a local call
Fixed Dialing Numbers - had a few options = disable FDN, change PIN2, FDN list

What do I need to do to my old Evo 4G wimax to remove the sprint to go GV?

Hi I have a Evo 4G wimax that I rooted and used on sprint till last week. I ported my # to different phone and like to use this old one as a Google voice phone and remove the sprint # and the info and it looking for sprint signal towers... Anyone do this yet? Hope I don't need to do a restore to lose all I still have on it for things....but if have to I have to

daves12555 said:
Hi I have a Evo 4G wimax that I rooted and used on sprint till last week. I ported my # to different phone and like to use this old one as a Google voice phone and remove the sprint # and the info and it looking for sprint signal towers... Anyone do this yet? Hope I don't need to do a restore to lose all I still have on it for things....but if have to I have to
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ok first of all you need to tone down the supersize font on your posts. second it's not really clear what you're asking to do. as long as your phone's cellular radio is on its going to continue looking for signals based on your roaming settings and prl. if you're asking about the number that yuor google voice account is setup to use, well then those settings need to be configured in your google account. did you port your phone number over to another carrier or did you just change phones with the same service provider (sprint)? be more specific on what youre trying to do.

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ok first of all you need to tone down the supersize font on your posts. second it's not really clear what you're asking to do. as long as your phone's cellular radio is on its going to continue looking for signals based on your roaming settings and prl. if you're asking about the number that yuor google voice account is setup to use, well then those settings need to be configured in your google account. did you port your phone number over to another carrier or did you just change phones with the same service provider (sprint)? be more specific on what youre trying to do.
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Ok smaller font.... I ported my cell # to a different carrier at&t prepaid. Yes I guess I am looking to turn off my cellular radio. Someone said I can not just use goggle voice with Wi-Fi without any cell account or so with the evo. Is that true? I saw another guy post that was all he was using on an old smart phone. and I would have to use a VOIP sip or so.

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Ok smaller font.... I ported my cell # to a different carrier at&t prepaid. Yes I guess I am looking to turn off my cellular radio. Someone said I can not just use goggle voice with Wi-Fi without any cell account or so with the evo. Is that true? I saw another guy post that was all he was using on an old smart phone. and I would have to use a VOIP sip or so.
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I'd use something better than gvoice. Find a good app that can utilize more features of the phone...Skype and fb msgr keep this EVO goin.
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You can pay 20 dollars to move your number to Google voice and it will automatically shut off your account. Will post link in a minute
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Sorry didn't read the OP. You can disable the cell radio with juice defender I believe
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Airplane mode then turn on WiFi.
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How is WiFi Calling different than simply using Hangouts Dialer on WiFi?

Apart from using your carrier number vs your Google Voice number?

I think there are people just use to using SIP XXX for whatever back in the day. It's what was used from the beginning. So you have people stuck, just because they've always used XXX to make wifi calls. (minus T-mo people)
Then hangouts dialer wanted to install on its own on tablets. As a group, all things got better, and now hangouts dialer seems pretty decent to me. It's easy to do, and easy to dial using it, on accident even. Quality is all network dependent and is subjective in it's entirety.
So we've fast forwarded 5 years and it's just plain easy and the quality is decent. Dial from hangouts and save the hassle.

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Apart from using your carrier number vs your Google Voice number?
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http://gizmodo.com/what-is-wi-fi-calling-1635271129
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So it's basically like I said, the only difference is it uses your carrier number instead of your GV number.

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So it's basically like I said, the only difference is it uses your carrier number instead of your GV number.
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Wifi calling doesn't need mobile data.
For example, in a car on the way back home. Your mobile data is off. But still you can call/talk to your friend on voice. When you get home, the system handover the conversation from cellular to wifi seamlessly.

Does anyone know if doing this will count towards your minutes for the month? I don't have unlimited minutes. So, just curious.

gingus7 said:
Does anyone know if doing this will count towards your minutes for the month? I don't have unlimited minutes.
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With most carriers, Wi-Fi calling will count against your minutes—Hangouts and other non-carrier-based voice apps will not.