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Apologies for this post if it's been done many times before but I've been digging around now for hours and keep finding conflicting advice on problems I will run into so I just need someone to clarify if it's possible and what I need to do to ensure I don't loose wifi access or brick my phone or anything like that....
I bought a HTC Desire locked to Orange (UK) yesterday and I would like to get it unlocked and debranded. The unlocking part should not be a prob as I'll just buy a code from somewhere (or thats the hope anyhow) but when it comes to reflashing to debrand I keep coming across posts about wifi issues or OTA updates making progs force close, thus the Desire becoming unstable.
All I want to know is..... How do I get rid of all the Orange crap and go to a generic HTC Desire ROM so it would be like I bought a retail Desire? Is this possible without messing up my phone?? I'm currently on 02 (UK) but also bought an Orange PAYG sim just incase things get overly complicated. I would like to stick with my 02 sim but don't want to run into any probs with my phone, and if needs be I could switch over to Orange but that would be my last resort. I would also like to get rid of the Orange flash screen and the Orange apps that came preinstalled on my phone. Some posts say it's possible, some posts say I will have issues with the radio version, some posts say I will loose wifi and the Desire will turn unstable (lots of force closed prompts). If I did manage to go back to the retail Desire ROM, would I then run into probs with OTA updates?
Sorry if this question is proper nooby, but in truth that's exactly what I am and I'm getting totally lost!! After hours of digging I thought I'd just post this up and see if someone can clarify the situation before I dig in and start flashing. Better to be safe than sorry and all that.
Any help would be appreciated!!
With an orange branded desire, you'll definitely have to unlock it - i did with mine, although i discovered that after i'd flashed it
the only think i would advise you to do is to read up on the various rom threads - the first couple of posts in each thread will tell you what each rom does and will invariably give you a couple of screenshots as well.
that way you can decide which one you want in the firsts instance. then i'd skip to the end of the thread and read back a few pages from that point, so you'll get an idea of what problems (if any) people are still having.
it really comes down to personal preference and taking a chance - most, if not all of the roms on here are working and stable and won't really give you many problems.
Yea its an eyesore to say the least is that filthy orange branding
get it debranded first using a goldcard and flashed with rooted generic rom
then purchase sim unlock code to use your o2.
then update and mod to your hearts "desire"
Firstly, thanks for your quick replies! I had a feeling this was going to be a bit of a mission!!
Ok, so say I've unlocked and unbranded my phone. What happens with OTA updates from there on in? Is it just a case of doing them manually and switching off auto OTA? I read somewhere that by flashing with a rooted ROM it will block OTA from updating to prevent the phone getting locked or becoming unstable, is that right?
Also, this may be a stupid question but if it's flashed to a generic HTC ROM then where does it contact for the updates? I was figuring as soon as I'd gotten rid of the Orange fw that it would no longer be looking for the Orange'd ROM update but after reading this doesn't seem to be the case?
Please forgive me if I'm being ignorant, I've gone from a Nokia 1600 (lol) to a HTC Desire and trying to get my head around it all!!
I would like to know too, I have just bought a Orange branded desire.
1. Do I unlock the phone 1st, ie. get an unlock code from orange.
2. do I then flash the generic firmware.
3. Is the sim lock stored in the radio part of the firmware?
I have unbranded/unlocked nokia n80`s and htc tync`s in the past, but I need to swat up on this linux stuff.
Any usefull advice welcomed, in the mean while I`ll keep reading
The OTA updates will become completely unecessary because you'll be using a custom rom - the developer of that rom will be the one releasing the updates, so all you'll have to do is to re-flash each updated version.
jedi134 said:
I would like to know too, I have just bought a Orange branded desire.
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Well what I did was to root the phone first, then flash the radio and then a rom. the new radio is what caused the simlock, so it was at that point i had to buy an unlock code. all works completely fine now.
hankhandsome said:
The OTA updates will become completely unecessary because you'll be using a custom rom - the developer of that rom will be the one releasing the updates, so all you'll have to do is to re-flash each updated version.
Well what I did was to root the phone first, then flash the radio and then a rom. the new radio is what caused the simlock, so it was at that point i had to buy an unlock code. all works completely fine now.
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So can the simlock be removed by flashing a simfree radio rom??? I`m pretty sure this is what i did on an old tync to remove simlock.....but this was some time ago
you say the radio Rom you flashed caused the simlock, did you not have to supply the network provider as well as the IMIE to get the unlock code? or was this a generic Radio rom?
My wife has just got a htc desire HD on 3 and that is branded.
I have got a Samsung Galaxy S and i have unbranded that down loading a Manufacture Rom and that updates as normal.
Is there some software like odin for the Htc and were like samfirmware.com can i down load a Manufactures rom.
she went for this phone cos of the spec and she does not like my Samsung i was hoping the Htc community would be the same it is so easy to do and Samsung service centres checked my firmware and it was fine.
Most people just want there phone as Htc intended it to be
HTC finally launched their Gingerbread update (2.3.3) for Desire. I am using a Desire (telstra locked Android 2.1), downloaded the new update from the official website HTC website and now i have a completely unbranded HTC Desire with 2.3.3... NO GOLDCARD OR ROOT REQUIRED.
http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150262535205538&id=260085296049
It says it will wipe everything. So a complete backup is needed.
I am still quite new to this. Forgive me, but what is the BEST way to back up EVERYTHING -- including apps and contacts and SMS etc.
I have Titanium Back up Pro (and im rooted) though I haven't really used it yet -- is this the best ?
Is there any good apps out there ? Any good programs I should know ?
I just saw this too. Unfortunately, I've upgraded to JH2. The facebook post says you need JG9.
We can use this post for our flash guide using Kies:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=766589
Now... how can we locate a JG9 firmware image? I cannot find it on samfirmware. I guess we'll need to flash back to get this update.
I'll update my post when I find information, but feel free to post how we can get back to the JG9 firmware if I'm off base.
- Titanium backup is good to backup apps and data.
- I've used SMS Backup and Restore to backup SMS.
- Contacts are backed up by Google itself as is the calendar.
- APN data might have to be re-entered manually. There is an APN backup and restore as well.
- I'm not sure if call log data can be backed up and restored.
Too late for my phone
but great news
I find titanium hard to use, undestand and unreliable. Mybackup pro is waaaay better.
Is it just me or didnt my phone update to that firmware weeks ago when I got the thing... Some fix Samsung, thanks alot for wasting the last 2 weeks of my life waiting on you to come up with a resolution.
Please someone tell me im wrong... lol
If you have attempted to resolve the three-button recovery issue by upgrading the device to JH2 using a version of Kies earlier than 1.5.110074_45 and the recovery procedure is not working, please visit a Bell authorized dealer to have the device returned to a Samsung authorized service centreto have the issue resolved.
WHAT ?????
I installed JH2 via Kies something like 2 weeks ago. 3 button recovery/download is still not working. The Facebook page helpfully recommends taking it back and getting it serviced, but I think I'll wait until it's bricked.
I guess our only hope is for someone to tell us how to safely downgrade..
Dawgplg said:
Is it just me or didnt my phone update to that firmware weeks ago when I got the thing... Some fix Samsung, thanks alot for wasting the last 2 weeks of my life waiting on you to come up with a resolution.
Please someone tell me im wrong... lol
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Just downgrade to JG9 then do the update.. its a different version of JH2 that is up for download via KIES it updates the SPL. were the old one didn't
Im hoping someone can get KIES to downgrade to JM9, so that we can update to JH2 using the supposed new version of KIES. Dont really see how this will make any difference, but heres to wishful thinking.
Any idea how I can go about getting the JG9 firmware?
Does anyone have a download link for JG9? Pretty sure you can get kies to flash any rom you want by fiddling with the registry.
this is awesome news. im still on the stock firmware. ive been scared to update to ANYTHING due to this problem. i havent even rooted the thing.
im gonna wait and see what the results are for other people before i do this too. maybe im paranoid but it doesnt hurt to be patient i guess.
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Just downgrade to JG9 then do the update.. its a different version of JH2 that is up for download via KIES it updates the SPL. were the old one didn't
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Sorry was trying to quote you.. Anyway Id love to get back to the previous firmware, Any idea how to go about that? Ive seen people redirect KIES to other Firmwares, ie the new Froyo build, but havent seen anything to go back.
Hmm...
This "new" JH2 which should fix the "3-button combos" is a low package.
Maybe Kies (Odin SS_DL) is able to update the bootloader, because Odin does not seem to be able to do it.
If someone wants to try it with Odin, I can upload the file.
evil-doer said:
this is awesome news. im still on the stock firmware. ive been scared to update to ANYTHING due to this problem. i havent even rooted the thing.
im gonna wait and see what the results are for other people before i do this too. maybe im paranoid but it doesnt hurt to be patient i guess.
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Hey man I am with you I think. I haven't done NO upgrades or firmware updates. Why? b/c I can't get Keis to work
So I'm still on stock.
My phone says this:
Original Production Software:
PDA: I9000UGJG9
PHONE: I9000UGJG9
CSC: I9000BMCJG9
I've only rooted my phone and used the 1-click-lag-fix
So questions -- once I upgrade my phone via Keis do I have to re-apply 1-click-lag-fix ?
do I have to un-root my phone before I upgrade via Keis ?
Thanks guys
@richthofen
Does this mean it is definitifly a software issue or could it still be an hardware issue since the older stock firmware can be updated and the newer roms can not..
Fishie said:
@richthofen
Does this mean it is definitifly a software issue or could it still be an hardware issue since the older stock firmware can be updated and the newer roms can not..
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Its software and it has been all along.. its the SPL Boot-loader... all they have done is get KIES to flash the boot loader this time.. in the past when you changed roms the bootloader was not changed.. now this flash with update the boot-loader with the fix..
Hmm, I updated a few weeks back to JH2. Its been running fine, but having that 3 button ability would give me more peace of mind. They suggest bringing it to a dealer for warranty replacement/repair if we've already upgraded - seems a bit excessive. I'm wondering if this "bootloader" alteration will be included in future firmware updates perhaps? Like froyo (hopefully in a few weeks)? If that's the case, I'll just wait for that instead of trying to flash back to JG9, then back forward to the "new" JH2.
Any word/thoughts on if this bootloader thing is a one-time deal from JG9 to new JH2 only?
- Goatblaster
I would assume that most people that want the 3-button fix are the kind of people that upgraded to JH2 as soon as it was available and thus with a version of kies "prior to 1.5.110074_45". Therefore most people will fall into the category where they must return the phone for service as explained in samsung FB note.
This is bizarre... even if the new firmware is the same as JH2 except for the low level stuff, they could have given it a new name just to allow kies to upgrade it. Instead they are explicitly telling us to send the phone back! It really looks like they are shooting themselves in the foot. Why not tell us to wait one week for Froyo and get the new boot loader + froyo at the same time. Returning it to Samsung will take much longer.
Also, there are a lot of users who did upgrade to JH2 using the latest Kies, and not one of them has emerged saying it fixed the 3-button issue.
Either Samsung has failed big time on this, or the statements on FB are not legit.
Following on from the fix I mentioned for the MTP error, using the KiesFileSearcher utility, I have now FINALLY upgraded by Orange branded phone to Froyo 2.2!!!!!!!!!!! Yay!
Once I had managed to connect to Kies, I could get the latest Eclair 2.1 update. Then I couldn't get any further. After a fair bit of researching, I found on the XDA site a fix for Kies, called the Kies Registry Patcher - version 7 - you need the latest one to work with the latest version of Kies.
It is a very simple piece of software which can fool Kies into thinking you have an unbranded phone. As soon as I ran it (takes about 20 seconds to do and I chose the XEU version to fool Kies with) I connected to Kies and it offered me the latest Froyo firmware.
Have now updated my phone (which I must also add I have unlocked to a different network) and all has gone well.
Just want to mention this alongside my other posts for all of you out there still struggling with the horrid problem of updating firmware on Orange SGS phones.
Thanks to the wonderful XDAers who manage to produce these magic fixes!!!!!
If you have any specific questions - just email.
Good luck people!
Will try this at home.....hope its work...
Hi,
I did make this query earlier on another thread (I promise that thread will be deleted in the next 14-15hrs, but I need to keep it up till that time), but I have now been suggested to re-word and describe the situation properly, before attempting a knee-jerk update and getting my phone locked.
I bought my Captivate Glide I927 from an Indian website, which promised "unlocked for all GSM networks" handsets. The phone came in the original AT&T box, and works properly for voice and text on both Airtel and Tata Docomo networks. Google Play works as well, but internet browsing thru any browser isnt working. The phone came with GB 2.3.6 installed (I927UCKL1). However, I wasnt provided with any "unlock" code, as I have been reading about in this forum (required in case the phone gets locked after an update). The specific seller I bought from on the site is no help at all regarding either the unlock code or an ICS update.
I have downloaded the new firmware "I927UCLJ3_I927ATTLJ3_ATT.zip" from samfirmware, and also have Odin and CWMR on my PC (Basically everything to update my Captivate Glide to ICS). I have also asked around in the reliable-looking half-a-dozen mobile repair shops in my locality, but they cannot guarantee anything, much less a particular model-specific solution for the ICS update while keeping the handset unlocked.
So, my queries are:
1. What do I do to get the internet browsing working on the same setup (GB 2.3.6)
2. If I do flash the ICS update (I927UCLJ3_I927ATTLJ3_ATT.zip), will the handset get locked??
3. If it does get locked, what are the methods to get it unlocked again??
Any replies and solutions are appreciated.
Thank you.
Check out this post by Phoenix84188, it has a patched libsec-ril that allows the bit-flip method to work with the LJ3 ICS ROM.
Bit more involved, but you could also modify the CSC files and flash that modified image instead.
As for internet browsing, did you check your APN settings?
abalsy said:
Hi,
2. If I do flash the ICS update (I927UCLJ3_I927ATTLJ3_ATT.zip), will the handset get locked??
3. If it does get locked, what are the methods to get it unlocked again??
Any replies and solutions are appreciated.
Thank you.
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Hard to tell if it will lock, better to be prepared.
When I flashed the I927UCLJ3_I927ATTLJ3_ATT over the existing Gingerbread on the Rogers version of the phone SGH-i927R, it got network locked.
Thus on first boot it was requesting the Network Code. The store I bought it originally unlocked from provided me the code.
After upgrading mine from GB -> ICS (back to) -> GB Official, I then "Unlocked" it with an Unlock code. Then flashed up to the latest official and LiteROM, CM10 preview, etc, and never had to unlock again.
Dont know whether it helps- I too bought from a Indian website. It came unlocked. I flashed to ICS when the ROM came up first (subsequently it was removed and the re-released). I used CWMR to fix the keyboard light and Titanium Backup to remove the bloatware. I dont have any issues with my handset so far other than the occassional deep sleep issue (it goes off from standby and has to be battery resetted)
Ameyam
Dont worry i boughy my glide unlocked from ebay...im from central america and i flashed the ICS update, then flashed LiteRom, CM10 and now Pacman and my phone is still unlocked!!
AT&T unlocks from ebay are the cheapest one's to buy. I would suggest to find out first if they have an unloack code to be on the safer side. Although 99.99% they'll have an unloack code. Flash the ICS update and if it asks you for a code then go buy it.
My handset got locked once when originally updating to ICS and i bought the code from http://cellunlocker.net
Official updates (through Odin or Kies) have a tendency to relock Samsung devices. To the best of our knowledge, all current custom ROMs require you to first flash the official ICS update, so this is a problem. Have your unlock code on hand.
NEVER buy an unlocked device where the seller won't give you the code for it. Weird things happen.
roothorick said:
NEVER buy an unlocked device where the seller won't give you the code for it. Weird things happen.
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That's good advice. Thank you.
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ameyam said:
Dont know whether it helps- I too bought from a Indian website. It came unlocked. I flashed to ICS when the ROM came up first (subsequently it was removed and the re-released). I used CWMR to fix the keyboard light and Titanium Backup to remove the bloatware. I dont have any issues with my handset so far other than the occassional deep sleep issue (it goes off from standby and has to be battery resetted)
Ameyam
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I had the same issue. I surfed the web but didn't find any solution. Than I instaled litekernel and I don't remember why but I used interactive governor and it helped. Hope this will be the help for everybody, cause many are having the same problem
Hey everyone.
I'm running on completely Stock 5.1.1 OK1 on my Note 4 and just recieved the official MM OTA update last night. Due to my phone having a lot of junk and being laggy I decided to flash the official firmware from any external method to have a clean install of the os. I heard about Samsung Kies which makes a back up of your phone and installs the latest os, I installed and backed up my phone last night but it didn't seem to give me an update on the os, it said "This is the latest version" (5.1.1 COK1).
My main concern about this is. I've bought this phone from Pakistan (used phone but in brand new condition) and I'm currently living in Malaysia and I have no idea who was the previous owner of this phone. In Kies it shows the phone number different than what I have (maybe its the Sprint phone number?).
What if my carrier is locked by having a clean install? Or any sort of other related issue occurs.
Please take some time to enlighten the facts from your knowledge, will highly appreciate it.
Regards.
waiting for official release bro. If rom is released on sammobile, see the icon kies highlighted on the right.
zincbros said:
waiting for official release bro. If rom is released on sammobile, see the icon kies highlighted on the right.
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Yeah but you totally missed my question here.
Its not that I don't want to do some research myself, I'm a student and I'm busy most of the time. So if anyone can take out their precious time to answer my question I'd really appreciate the help.
If you're concerned about your phone or sim getting lock..you can just use galaxy tools apk v3.1.5 & then upgrade the apk to v3.1.8 & it will unlocked it for you... but i doubt it will lock you down... maybe you can just try to back your rom completely & restore if any issues encounter
it's dependent on the way that they unlocked the phone, someone in vietnam has been locked after updated the phone, but my phone was not.
zincbros said:
it's dependent on the way that they unlocked the phone, someone in vietnam has been locked after updated the phone, but my phone was not.
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And I have no idea how my phone was unlocked, I just bought it like this. I can see the Sprint phone number on Samsung Kies maybe I should write an email to Sprint asking them to unlock it using that Sprint phone number?