Freaking Clockworkmod: got me again. - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

Oh, CWM, how MUCH I can't stand thee:
Anyway, here's a long version:
I can't stand using CWM for recovery.
(I initially had an OG Evo, and it was nothing but a headache, so I always used AmonRa, successfully, and use that or TWRP on my ALL my other devices, where I can...
I'very made other posts about its issues, and have gotten into it with Koush online before about all the problems with it, and how he just let's so many versions out into the wild that aren't working for different phones...
With the ET4G, I kinda had to use it, and was able to flash a working version thru Odin.
Whatever, I was able to use it.
Lately, Koush releases a touchscreen version, there are stories about it all over the web: so I go into Rom Manager to check it out:
It tells me that it's not yet compatible with the ET4G, but that my version of CWM is outdated, so I should flash a newer CWM....
LIKE AN IDIOT, I agreed.
Now, just when I finally have a chance to flash CM9 on my ET4G, after waiting SOOOOO long?
I can't.
Because now, my recovery's totally borked.
I can't even get my phone to do anything but bootloop the CM7 animation, and download mode is the only thing I can get into.
Now, I'm gonna have to spend all this time today fixing what shouldn't be messed up in the first place instead of enjoying CM9 like I should be doing.
(BTW: Koush, if you're listening: this will be the last time for sure I ever fall for that again.)
Yeah, I'm mad, Bro.
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I never use ROM manager but doesn't cwm have to be packaged with a kernel in order for it to work? ie. we can't just flash a recovery like we could in the evo 4G days. Methinks if you just use odin to flash a kernel+cwm package you'll be back up and running in no time.

_MetalHead_ said:
Methinks if you just use odin to flash a kernel+cwm package you'll be back up and running in no time.
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Methinks you are a wise and gracious man with your help......

_MetalHead_ said:
I never use ROM manager but doesn't cwm have to be packaged with a kernel in order for it to work? ie. we can't just flash a recovery like we could in the evo 4G days. Methinks if you just use odin to flash a kernel+cwm package you'll be back up and running in no time.
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Oh, yeah: I can fix it, but my wife has my laptop till like 7pm, and I really don't wanna mess with drivers, Odin, all, that stuff on my desktop. I keep all my Android stuff on one PC (laptop) and I like having ADB, drivers, all that stuff, in one place...Just kinda threw a rock into my chain, on today of all days...
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Edit: And, yeah, I knew that used to be the case with CWM (needed kernel flash), but when a known high-level dev is telling me basically, that "this updated version will work for that very specific Android device that you have", and that "I can use his app to flash it", I guess I wanted to believe him...
Eff that guy: He needs to spend less time stacking his money, and more time having some accountability for what he releases to the public.
/End rant.

So, this has nothing to do with Clockworkmod, you are really pissed that samsung requires recovery and kernels on the same partition.
Koush can only do so much magic.

Bielinsk said:
So, this has nothing to do with Clockworkmod, you are really pissed that samsung requires recovery and kernels on the same partition.
Koush can only do so much magic.
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?
How much magic does it take to remove the ET4G from Rom Manager's compatability list?
I'd bet not too much: In fact, I'd bet I could learn that trick in one short weekend.
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If you're still rooted Mobil odin

Nandroid hardly ever works for me, it usually fails during the restore.

just uninstall rom manager its about worthless for our phone.

drksilenc said:
just uninstall rom manager its about worthless for our phone.
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I know it sux but I have to agree the real problem and question is if you know your way around your phone then honestly why in the hell would you use Rom Manager, Not getting on you but I too hated CWM on OG Evo, I used Amon but the one thing we all learned early is do it yourself so you dont need Rom Manager...

I love the new clockwork mod touch recovery. I actually like it better than twrp2.0. Only thing I like about twrp is you can compress the backups. The new cwm touch was just released for the ns4g.
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I agree ROM manager is useless in the galaxy s4g forums its ROM Mangler.
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playya said:
I know it sux but I have to agree the real problem and question is if you know your way around your phone then honestly why in the hell would you use Rom Manager, Not getting on you but I too hated CWM on OG Evo, I used Amon but the one thing we all learned early is do it yourself so you dont need Rom Manager...
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I know, I know...
(And I'm back up with CM9 on my ET4G: used my desktop, couldn't wait all day), and believe me: there's probably no one who's more outspoken about their anti-cwm/rommanagerness than I am: I'm just mad at myself for believing that the new update would work..
Oh well, lesson (re)learned....
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This is why i no longer use that pos rom manager. When i first started out with android that biatch messed up my og epic a few times. I learned my lesson after a few odins
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eao1991 said:
This is why i no longer use that pos rom manager. When i first started out with android that biatch messed up my og epic a few times. I learned my lesson after a few odins
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I use it all the time to boot into recovery and that is it
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Originally Posted by eao1991
This is why i no longer use that pos rom manager. When i first started out with android that biatch messed up my og epic a few times. I learned my lesson after a few odins
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I use it all the time to boot into recovery and that is it
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I use the extended power options for that...but obviously the rom needs to include it which most do now. I'm still kicking myself in the ass for ever buying rom manager but I guess it was the noob in me.
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Same thing happened to me when I first rooted my phone. I rooted the stock rom then installed rom manager and installed the recovery that way. Then when I booted into recovery, the only option I had was to reboot.
Don't ever use Rom Manager. Ever.

CBowley said:
Same thing happened to me when I first rooted my phone. I rooted the stock rom then installed rom manager and installed the recovery that way. Then when I booted into recovery, the only option I had was to reboot.
Don't ever use Rom Manager. Ever.
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For our phone.

There's definitely nothing wrong with CWM. Blame rom manager if you must place the blame anywhere besides yourself.

I bought rom manager to support clockworkmod and have access to the latest clockworkmod versions. I think they have provided a wonderful tool. Anyway, I actually never used it except to check for roms and latest clockworkmod.
I've flashed the touch version of clockworkmod (downloaded the .img file from the clockrkmod web site) on my ns4g using adb and fastboot (thanks to Paul627 for the tutorial).
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Related

No roms for our phone in rom manager

Does anyone know why rom manager doesn't list any roms for our phone?
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Cause Rom Manager doesn't support our phone?
So it's never going to support our phone?
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rom manager usually only has cyanogenmod anyways. besides you wouldn't even be able to flash it through rom manager anyways.
Correct, Rom Manager has never supported ROM Flashing for the E4GT
I flash through ROM manager all the time.
It doesn't list roms for the reason the previous person stated. Basically, it only supports cyanogen for that feature. So, even though I use it to flash roms, it is basically useless. The only reason I ever use it is because I am lazy and hate holding 2 buttons down in the far chance that it will boot in recovery and I dont have to reboot and start over. But, with custom shutdown menus being more popular
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kc_exactly said:
I flash through ROM manager all the time.
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What??? What Roms do you flash? I have tried numerous times and it never works for me.
kc_exactly said:
I flash through ROM manager all the time.
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lmao. no you flash through clockwork mod recovery all the time. you cannot flash throughout rom manager. I know because I have tried. if you were able to then how did you do it? or was this a troll comment?
patrao_n said:
lmao. no you flash through clockwork mod recovery all the time. you cannot flash throughout rom manager. I know because I have tried. if you were able to then how did you do it? or was this a troll comment?
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LOL aha that is what I thought he meant, threw me off there for a second though.
Don't the devs have to submit the links to their roms to rom manager? Has anyone done this? Many times the roms on rm aren't the most recent if development is pretty active.
even if rom manager had the roms. currently they can't be flashed through the program. rom manager just hangs. even when trying to simply backup.
Sorry, you know what I meant. I tend to confuse sometimes.
kc_exactly said:
Sorry, you know what I meant. I tend to confuse sometimes.
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its cool lol. I just had a really long agonizing discussion with my brother about it too. he came from a hero as did I and swore up and down he was flashing from the program rom manager not through recovery on this phone.

ROM Manager

I've had Rom Manager Pro for along time now since my first Android and I was wanting to know if our phone uses it at all?
I don't see our model on the list but on one of my other phones we kinda shared one with another phone do we do that if we don't have a main one?
And what's that recovery touch? Has anyone every used that? Sounds pretty cool lolz
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Linux215 said:
I've had Rom Manager Pro for along time now since my first Android and I was wanting to know if our phone uses it at all?
I don't see our model on the list but on one of my other phones we kinda shared one with another phone do we do that if we don't have a main one?
And what's that recovery touch? Has anyone every used that? Sounds pretty cool lolz
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Yes it does. I use it all the time. Do NOT use any form of touch recovery. There is one out there that is safe but right now do NOT use touch recovery.
Touch recovery has been blamed for bricking phones best to steer clear of it altogether.
There are some issues with Rom Manager, I'm sure someone will let you know. FYI, Rom manager uses a v5.0.2.7 CWM based recovery for our phone. Do not use it with any of the ICS based roms, cwm is not compatible with them currently.
Witch ones are safe to use ?
And thank you for your last post
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Linux215 said:
Witch ones are safe to use ?
And thank you for your last post
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The gingerbread based ROMs usually come with a kernel that has recovery built-in so those are safe to use the way they are.
Can't emphasize enough though not to use recovery in ICS though.
Thanks,
but I was more asking is there a sections for our phone in the list in Rom Manager .
Also can I just click the flash recovery at the top of the App and is our phone in the list where you click download roms and it has a list of Rom updates and stuff like that?
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Linux215 said:
Thanks,
but I was more asking is there a sections for our phone in the list in Rom Manager .
Also can I just click the flash recovery at the top of the App and is our phone in the list where you click download roms and it has a list of Rom updates and stuff like that?
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Ah gotcha. First of all, I wouldn't recommend using rom manager to do anything but backups and restores. Yes, you can click Flash ClockworkMod Recovery, make sure you select the 'Samsung Epic 4G Touch'.
Lastly, I have no friggin clue what those roms/rom updates are listed there and how they get flashed or what would happen if something goes sideways so I stick with the XDA known and tried roms that you can get support for.
You cannot use Rom Manager because these need to be flashed according to the instructions posted with each rom. They are almost identical and its very easy to do.
Short version is, I recommend Rom Manager as an easy way to backup and restore your android OS from an interface. Beyond that, I think you're taking unecessary risks. There's a thread around here somewhere about how Rom Manger is very very bad.
I would recommend you read the instructions for any thread you are planning on utilizing closely and follow the directions listed in those threads. Don't assume past Android experience gives a license to skim the reading. Every phone is slightly different and has nuances that can become issues of glossed over. There are often reasons why the instructions are written the way they are.
I've had this phone for a while now, I was just re installing some apps and seen it and just wanted to know if it had a section for our phone that's its
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when I use rom manager to do a back up I have to remove the battery for it to work.
Any suggestions?
Thanks
Tungsten c said:
when I use rom manager to do a back up I have to remove the battery for it to work.
Any suggestions?
Thanks
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You should not use rom manager, especially if you are on an ICS rom. It needs to install its own version of cwm and could royally mess up the phone.
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Thank you.....is there a way to get its own version of CWM?
Is there a utility that we can use instead or just better to turn of phone and volume up
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Tungsten c said:
Thank you.....is there a way to get its own version of CWM?
Is there a utility that we can use instead or just better to turn of phone and volume up
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Best bet is what you said - Power Off, then power+volume up to get into a recovery. As for recovery Agat's has been great! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721065 and there are some specifically for CM9 and AOKP so if you plan on flashing any of those check those threads.

CWM recovery

I have heard that there is a new CWM recovery fr the Samsung Epic, is this true? could it be?
Right now I'm on 5.0.0.7 and as far as I know its the latest and greatest. Am I right or am I a total dummy?
Yes there is version 6
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wolfen1086 said:
I have heard that there is a new CWM recovery fr the Samsung Epic, is this true? could it be?
Right now I'm on 5.0.0.7 and as far as I know its the latest and greatest. Am I right or am I a total dummy?
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The greatest CWM is CWM 5
but the newest CWM is CWM 6
CWM 6 can't make a nandroid backup
Dropple said:
The greatest CWM is CWM 5
but the newest CWM is CWM 6
CWM 6 can't make a nandroid backup
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CWM 6 allows Nandroid on mine so not sure why your having problems.
But TWRP 2.2 Is better IMO not sure if its available for the Epic but on the NS4G its really good has on board keyboard control while in TWRP.
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XxLostSoulxX said:
CWM 6 allows Nandroid on mine so not sure why your having problems.
But TWRP 2.2 Is better IMO not sure if its available for the Epic but on the NS4G its really good has on board keyboard control while in TWRP.
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when i want to back up my phone with CWM 6, it stuck on "backing up system"
i must pull the battery to quit from recovery mode
yes TWRP 2.2.1 is better than CWM 5 and 6 for me
Dropple said:
when i want to back up my phone with CWM 6, it stuck on "backing up system"
i must pull the battery to quit from recovery mode
yes TWRP 2.2.1 is better than CWM 5 and 6 for me
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Lots of people are having problems with cwm6 making backups... don't mind lostsoul.... he posts before checking his facts... I have the same problem with cwm6.....
flastnoles11 said:
Lots of people are having problems with cwm6 making backups... don't mind lostsoul.... he posts before checking his facts... I have the same problem with cwm6.....
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heres mine working does a full complete backup i do now what i'm talking about, just because you, and others may have the issue doesn't meen some dont I.E like me.
XxLostSoulxX said:
heres mine working does a full complete backup i do now what i'm talking about, just because you, and others may have the issue doesn't meen some dont I.E like me.
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Yes but of course you made it sound like because yours is working. You could have no idea why his isn't working... probably because a lot of peoples isn't working.... dude really, just don't reply to me, ever, cuz you honestly usually don't know what you are talking about and its quite annoying... have a great day....
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Yes but of course you made it sound like because yours is working. You could have no idea why his isn't working... probably because a lot of peoples isn't working.... dude really, just don't reply to me, ever, cuz you honestly usually don't know what you are talking about and its quite annoying... have a great day....
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Ever thought of possibly reinstall start from fresh. I said it to you because you made it seem like I don't know what I'm talking about. There are somethings yes. But don't doubt me just because I have a working version. I never dirty flash not since ICS.
Sorry that I was just showing how mine was working when most aren't.
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XxLostSoulxX said:
Ever thought of possibly reinstall start from fresh. I said it to you because you made it seem like I don't know what I'm talking about. There are somethings yes. But don't doubt me just because I have a working version. I never dirty flash not since ICS.
Sorry that I was just showing how mine was working when most aren't.
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I have never dirty flashed... that's a bad habit to have... and I've redownloaded and reflashed many times.... I just flash marcusants cwm restore zip and work with 5.x.x.x. whatever the version number is.... don't be sorry... just don't say you don't see how others aren't working when yours is... (which you did, read back, you'll find it.....)
Sorry i guess I worded it wrong my bad but I understand your point are you completely stock because I didn't use his return CWM. I just wiped and installed CM9. So it uses the baked in version of CWM recovery.
I don't use custom kernels anymore on my Epic coming from a Voodoo Color Lover lol.
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CWM6? Yes, i've used that as well on CM9 & 10. As for the Epic(my daily), i'd like to know if anyone knows where I can find a later version than v5.0.2.7 ?
I've seen v5.5.0.4, but I believe that isn't for the Epic.
What I like about the newer versions of CWM is auto-scroll. (when you just hold down/up on the volume button and away you go, VS "click-click-click-click. UGH" )
Also, Im currently on (my fav) The People's Rom (TPR). I am hoping any newer version of CWM will work with the Epic and the rom.
Feedback will be awarded with thank you's nd smileys
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Isn't CWM 6 exclusive to AOSP based roms, like CM or MIUI?
5.0.2.7 is a work of art, many many thanks, DRockstar (wherever you are!)
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Heck yeah 5.0.2.7 is the latest and greatest. TWRP recovery is pretty good too, but I think that is only exclusive to some newer Roms. CWM 5.0.2.7 is about your best bet, unless you like CWM's older recovery versions but I would not recommend that.
And just another Thank you to DRockstar, awesome job! I've been using it for all different kinds of things and I haven't had one problem.
Thanks for all the input. But just in case where can I get v6 from
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You can try CWM touch it Is in the dev forum just flash it like any zip
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wolfen1086 said:
Thanks for all the input. But just in case where can I get v6 from
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Link is in op of TPR thread to V6 thread.
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[Q] Which Recovery

Which Recovey Do You Guys Think is Best CWM or TWRP?
I'm using TWRP because it's what I've used on my prior HTC devices and I'm familiar with it. I've read that 4EXT recovery might be available for our phones soon, and I'll switch to that if it becomes available.
Keep calm and flash on...
mike.r.olson said:
I'm using TWRP because it's what I've used on my prior HTC devices and I'm familiar with it. I've read that 4EXT recovery might be available for our phones soon, and I'll switch to that if it becomes available.
Keep calm and flash on...
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i have always used cwm and wanted to try twrp on my sgs2 but didnt. so thats why i wanted any1 oppion
i have been on TWRP for the past 6 months and never looked back, plus its themabel which is a nice bonus, givie it a try
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mike.r.olson said:
I'm using TWRP because it's what I've used on my prior HTC devices and I'm familiar with it. I've read that 4EXT recovery might be available for our phones soon, and I'll switch to that if it becomes available.
Keep calm and flash on...
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+1 on 4EXT, That's by far my favorite recovery:good:
Where did you hear that it was coming to the sgs3?
I emailed madmaxx on it and he said he was really busy with allot of other models and he would look into our sgs3's since it's a popular device.
Hopefully we will see it soon:fingers-crossed:
CWM is great, but TWRP is just awesome.
For me, TWRP has these little things that just make sense, like a link to wipe dalvik/cache right after you flash something, option to queue up multiple zips to flash in a certain order, option to compress your backups (because they do end up taking quite a bit of space if you have multiple backups), etc.
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Where did you hear that it was coming to the sgs3?
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I believe I read on their site that they may begin working in it at a future date. I'm satisfied with TWRP, but I'm hopeful that 4EXT is "in the cards" so to speak.
Edit: it appears like they want to start working on the international version of the SGS3. Hopefully we might me able to sway them towards working on the stateside version first.
Keep calm and flash on...
Sorry for the noob question.... but i just got the s3 and its already rooted but how do i enter recovery?? Or can somebody guide me for like a what are the steps to take idk... take in advance
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beyako said:
Sorry for the noob question.... but i just got the s3 and its already rooted but how do i enter recovery?? Or can somebody guide me for like a what are the steps to take idk... take in advance
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Press and hold Volume Up+Home+Power buttons at the same time for about 5 seconds
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31890422
Should probably read the whole thread before you do anything else...
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Tried TWRP once upon a time and couldn't adjust.
Ended up reverting to CWM Touch.
It just works for me.
Sorry i was just too excited.... lol
Thanks......
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I like twrp personally. Layouts better and easier to use. Plus it has a built in file manager.
Cwm has the ability to prevent itself from being overwritten after ota update but there's other ways around this.
They are both good recoveries imo, just personal preference.
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Agree 100% with Doc
I always used cwm since it came out but switched to twrp since I got my s3 and I'd never go back.
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mike.r.olson said:
I'm using TWRP because it's what I've used on my prior HTC devices and I'm familiar with it. I've read that 4EXT recovery might be available for our phones soon, and I'll switch to that if it becomes available.
Keep calm and flash on...
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I prefer twrp (only when 4ext isn't available). I talked to madmaxx82 and he was in middle of a complete redesign/overhaul on the UI of 4ext when started having computer issues. Then he did say we r on the list. I was his beta tester for the HTC Amaze. He prefers the HTC devices so I assume will be doing those first.
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If I wanted to switch from CWM touch to TWRP, can I just flash the twrp using goomanager? Also, if I do change do the backups from CWM work fine for TWRP?
kingston73 said:
If I wanted to switch from CWM touch to TWRP, can I just flash the twrp using goomanager? Also, if I do change do the backups from CWM work fine for TWRP?
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Yes, install goo manager from the playstore and install recovery from there. No you will not be able to restore any backup made with CWM in TWRP.
Thanks for the quick answer. I think I'll just stick with CWM for now. I'd love to see EXT for us, I had that for the sensation and loved it and was a bit disappointed to find there wasn't a version here.
kingston73 said:
Thanks for the quick answer. I think I'll just stick with CWM for now. I'd love to see EXT for us, I had that for the sensation and loved it and was a bit disappointed to find there wasn't a version here.
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I have been a loyal CWM user since MT3g days, then I tried TWRP on my SGS3 and have not looked backed. I love the UI better, everything just seems a lot faster in TWRP to me.
kingston73 said:
If I wanted to switch from CWM touch to TWRP, can I just flash the twrp using goomanager? Also, if I do change do the backups from CWM work fine for TWRP?
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When u open goo manager app... push the menu soft key on your phone and click the install openrecovery script. Then you are good. :thumbup:
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CWM or TWRP

So i just wanted to know which people prefer and why. personally i prefer CWM because it was the first recovery i used and it is just easier to navigate in my opinion.
I've tried both on the SGS3. IMO CWM is better on the SGS3, than TWRP.
TEAM MiK
MikROMs Since 3/13/11
I started with cwm touch, and really liked it. Switched to twrp when I installed a custom rom (at their suggestion). Now I really don't have a preference. I keep both zips on my extsd, so I can switch to whatever I want to use...
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Shortly after I installed TWRP on my Epic, it hard bricked when installing a ROM. I cannot say for sure it was because of TWRP, but when that happened I've never tried TWRP again, and I haven't had another bricked phone. Coincidence?? Possibly.
TWRP FTW
IBTW it had it issues with The Epic 4G Touch but not anymore that a thing of the past.
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I'm very new to this phone although not to rooting. Neither CWM or TWRP were good on the EVO 4G. As a matter of fact if someone asked for help or had trouble flashing the 1st order of business was to ditch either of those recoveries and install amon_ra.
Consequently I've wanted to ask this question too and I'm gonna keep an eye on this thread.
TWRP. It's the obvious choice. :good:
Cnexus built a recovery switcher that allows you to switch between cwm/cwm touch/twrp. I say install it, and try em all out
I know the first time I used twrp, I had an issue because if you have it set to check mdsum, it will fail if it can't find one. Simple, but it did kinda freak me out.
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eisawi99 said:
So i just wanted to know which people prefer and why. personally i prefer CWM because it was the first recovery i used and it is just easier to navigate in my opinion.
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I thought the same thing for a bit. Then I used TWRP 2.4.40 PR 2.4.2.0 or whatever that one was called, and I am loving it. Works perfectly fine for me. Used a flash able zip too.
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CWM doesn't let you queue multiple zips as far as I can tell, so I've been using TWRP.
TWRP all the way, plus you can theme it! The one and only thing that annoys me about TWRP is that the clock is always off -__-
Both are great and different roms need either to work right. But in my experience trwp backs up and restores without error. Clockwork never restored properly on any of my phones from og evo, evo lte or my sgs3. But clockwork flashes radio updates better, at least my reception bar level or data connectivity.
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socos25 said:
Shortly after I installed TWRP on my Epic, it hard bricked when installing a ROM. I cannot say for sure it was because of TWRP, but when that happened I've never tried TWRP again, and I haven't had another bricked phone. Coincidence?? Possibly.
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Coincidence, the epic 4G has a bug that caused it to hardbrick when flashing certain roms (memory fault in the kernel or something like that). There was a workaround for this though.
Might as well put my 2 cents in. I have used both recoveries on my devices. I have no personal choice as to one is better than te other issue. I can tell that once cwm was actually fixed and built for the Epic it worked perfectly prior to that when it was first ported over to the OG Epic it was hit or miss, the orange cwm. Oh well my Epic did just fine on both. My Galaxy Nexus works better with TWRP for whatever reason it just does and my S3 prefers CWM again never had an issue with either on those devices but when I use the other recovery on each of those devices they become temperamental and start acting up. I know it's funny but that's what I know of my devices. They are both very good recoveries and they have come a long way since the early days.
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edfunkycold said:
Might as well put my 2 cents in....
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So let me ask this: when a rom dev suggests a recovery, is that just because that's what the rom was tested with? Have you had an instance where you've *had* to use a specific recovery (other then one kind working better on a specific phone)?
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I'm not sure how themeing a recovery is useful? It's not like I'm showing my friends, hey look at this cool recovery. But which ever is fine.
Joe0113 said:
TWRP all the way, plus you can theme it! The one and only thing that annoys me about TWRP is that the clock is always off -__-
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I flashed a lot of Roms on my epic, yes it could be coincidence, but like I said, shortly after flashing TWRP I was warranting my phone because it didn't make it through a flash. I tried everything including once when odining my epic my daughter yanked the plug out. I recovered from that even by removing my battery and plugging it into the computer. After TWRP, I couldn't even do that. And really I have no idea if it was the recovery, but yeah, I chose CWM.
CNexus said:
Coincidence, the epic 4G has a bug that caused it to hardbrick when flashing certain roms (memory fault in the kernel or something like that). There was a workaround for this though.
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g_money said:
So let me ask this: when a rom dev suggests a recovery, is that just because that's what the rom was tested with? Have you had an instance where you've *had* to use a specific recovery (other then one kind working better on a specific phone)?
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No makes no difference, that's because that person has a personal liking for that recovery or like I said his device just responded better to that recovery. Makes no difference roms are not built for specific recoveries. Well not always there was an instance on the OG Epic where in order to flash cm9 the phone had to be re partitioned and a special recovery was necessary and the cm team built the recovery flash into the rom. That's another story for a different thread.
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g_money said:
So let me ask this: when a rom dev suggests a recovery, is that just because that's what the rom was tested with? Have you had an instance where you've *had* to use a specific recovery (other then one kind working better on a specific phone)?
Thanks
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Sometimes recoveries don't like certain roms...doesn't happen often, but it can
I know on my EVO Shift, Sense roms could be flashed ONLY with CWM for some reason, as TWRP wouldn't flash it properly.
CNexus said:
Sometimes recoveries don't like certain roms...doesn't happen often, but it can
I know on my EVO Shift, Sense roms could be flashed ONLY with CWM for some reason, as TWRP wouldn't flash it properly.
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So betweem you and ed, I should be able to flash a rom with either recovery unless posts show problems flashing with a specific one. And, if I *were* to have problems flashing, I may want to attempt to flash using a different recovery....
If that's the case, I just might pick one recovery, and stick with it!
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I started out using CWM but lately I've been using TWRP instead and I like the large buttons and touch interface of it. I'm sticking with it I think.

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