This is sort of a rant, or whatever. I remember when I got into Android, if you wanted top of the line, and a phone that would have everything, you got a Nexus. The Nexus was built specifically for Google. Then the introduced the Nexus S. That is when I started to get disappointed with the Nexus. It came in three or four different models, specific to carriers. Now, I am even more appauled because they have started putting carrier stamps on them. I noticed the Sprint version as the Sprint logo on the back of it, and the Verizon version has their logo on it. It is almost seeming like "Nexus" is an OEM now. They release a Nexus on an annual basis, with different features specific to carriers, and now put the carrier name on them. That is the same thing Samsung did with the Galaxy S and the Galaxy S2. HTC did it with a couple of their dual core phones, and the Hero. I dont know, it just bothers me. I used to want a Nexus back in the day, but now it is just like another manufacturer releasing a phone at the begining of the year. Wait a few months and something better will be out.
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This is sort of a rant, or whatever. I remember when I got into Android, if you wanted top of the line, and a phone that would have everything, you got a Nexus. The Nexus was built specifically for Google. Then the introduced the Nexus S. That is when I started to get disappointed with the Nexus. It came in three or four different models, specific to carriers. Now, I am even more appauled because they have started putting carrier stamps on them. I noticed the Sprint version as the Sprint logo on the back of it, and the Verizon version has their logo on it. It is almost seeming like "Nexus" is an OEM now. They release a Nexus on an annual basis, with different features specific to carriers, and now put the carrier name on them. That is the same thing Samsung did with the Galaxy S and the Galaxy S2. HTC did it with a couple of their dual core phones, and the Hero. I dont know, it just bothers me. I used to want a Nexus back in the day, but now it is just like another manufacturer releasing a phone at the begining of the year. Wait a few months and something better will be out.
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That is how phones are going to be when the og nexus was out there were no top of the line phones now its just like computers and how amd and Intel fought it out ... that is the business
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Carrier stamp is no big deal, what is appalling is when the carrier (ahem Verizon) wants to put their bloat on a Nexus device.
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Carrier stamp is no big deal, what is appalling is when the carrier (ahem Verizon) wants to put their bloat on a Nexus device.
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Yet that part we can put some blame on Google for as well. I think going to VZN for the first GNexus was a bad idea (IMO)
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Yet that part we can put some blame on Google for as well. I think going to VZN for the first GNexus was a bad idea (IMO)
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Definitely. One would think they would be advertising the hell out of it but instead i just saw droid razr commercials. What a shame...
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Its funny because a mwc there will be probably 6 phones announced that will blow the galaxy nexus away ... but that is phones wait 3 months and your phone is far surpassed
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Its funny because a mwc there will be probably 6 phones announced that will blow the galaxy nexus away ... but that is phones wait 3 months and your phone is far surpassed
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Yep. Soon after mwc the sgs3 will be announced (april based on rumors) and the devices from mwc will be old news
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Definitely. One would think they would be advertising the hell out of it but instead i just saw droid razr commercials. What a shame...
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That I agree on. All I see is Moto devices being pushed and very little if ANYTHING at all about the Nexus. The fact that VZN alone held out on releasing it was pretty sad. I mean Seriously it was/should of been released here in the States first yet VZN wanted it "their" way and held off cause of Wallet? (granted there was prob more then just that) but all in all VZN screwed up the GNexus launch for the States.
I just hope that in the future Google remembers this and maybe even choses Sprint for the next Nexus device.
I remember whwn nexus one was released, it really pushed the envelope hardware wise, as well as software. Even without rooting it, I'd say it was faster than anything else out there for close to a year, till sgs. Even then, it still seemed snappier. Now though, galaxy nexus didn't really seem all that appealing before it was even released, some could argue for sgs2 being better in many aspects. And it is stuck on a carrier that's really not selling it, at a price that some of us find high. On a most expensive network. By the time Sprint gets a better version of it, nexus will be old news. Definitely not the way Google envisioned this device, considering it is supposed to be flagship
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This is especially relevant since the only version of the galaxy nexus supported by google as a "true" nexus device is the gsm version...
Both the cdma and LTE customers are at SOL, as far as the first shot upgrades go...
(Yeah, this means Sprint.)
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This is especially relevant since the only version of the galaxy nexus supported by google as a "true" nexus device is the gsm version...
Both the cdma and LTE customers are at SOL, as far as the first shot upgrades go...
(Yeah, this means Sprint.)
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eh...no one knows this as of yet. One reason the NS4G is late to the game for updates is the WiMax stuff (iirc) The GNexus won't have that it will be a LTE device so that "should" make it a bit better (again I'm kinda guessing here but it makes sense at least to me)
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eh...no one knows this as of yet. One reason the NS4G is late to the game for updates is the WiMax stuff (iirc) The GNexus won't have that it will be a LTE device so that "should" make it a bit better (again I'm kinda guessing here but it makes sense at least to me)
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Google announced this today.
(The Sprint Gnex isn't really a Nexus device, as far as users like us are concerned.)
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Definitely. One would think they would be advertising the hell out of it but instead i just saw droid razr commercials. What a shame...
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How is that droid razr? I heard its a super amoled LED screen.... Does it compare to ours?
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I am hoping Sprint is smart enough to beef up their version of the GN. Otherwise by the time it is released it will be looked at as a mid level device and practically irrelevant.
I am also surprised they have yet to gave any type of time frame for it's release. They must still be working on their tiered LTE data plans
Google needs to set their foot down and limit OEM's on how many device they can make in a year. They can still continue releasing their Nexus devices and force carriers to not change anything on them. Our phones will have a long shelf life and be easier to receive updates.
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Google needs to set their foot down and limit OEM's on how many device they can make in a year. They can still continue releasing their Nexus devices and force carriers to not change anything on them. Our phones will have a long shelf life and be easier to receive updates.
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Why would they do that and lose out on a ****load of money
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I am hoping Sprint is smart enough to beef up their version of the GN. Otherwise by the time it is released it will be looked at as a mid level device and practically irrelevant.
I am also surprised they have yet to gave any type of time frame for it's release. They must still be working on their tiered LTE data plans
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There are rumors of a better GN in the works. Hopefully it's for Sprint especially since the sprint version at CES was kept under wraps in terms of only allowing photos of the front of the device.
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There are rumors of a better GN in the works. Hopefully it's for Sprint especially since the sprint version at CES was kept under wraps in terms of only allowing photos of the front of the device.
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I have heard rumors that the "better GN" has different processors in it, supposedly its the newest version of the TI-OMAP. I also read an article on Engaget from someone who got to play with the Sprint version and they confirmed it was identical to the Verizon version (including the 1.2ghz processors), except for google wallet.
If there is in-fact a better Nexus in the making, I would think it stupid to release it as a Galaxy Nexus because it wouldnt even be the same phone.
I kind of feel bad for people upgrading and going with anything else other than sgs2. Most people will never pay full retail, so they get stuck with their device for 20 months. Do you see yourself using an evo 3d for that long?!
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So I'm thinking of getting this phone with my soon-to-expire premier program upgrade (especially since it looks like we wont see galaxy nexus before the end of december), and I want to be sure this thing will stay satisfying for two years.
Primarily, I want to avoid issues the epic 4g has: limited (although what there is is extremely dedicated) dev support and lack of cm/miui that keeps the phone stuck at outdated os iterations (which is mostly sammy's fault anyway).
What im asking is, is this phone a dev darling and do they promise to love it for ever, even after samsung abandons it in 8 months?
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There is no such thing on the market. Once this phone stops getting Android updates, the community will have no choice but to dump it for the next newest. It'll probably be able to drive your car, have sex with your wife, and make banana pancakes. How will you be able to coerce a developer away from such a dream phone when all you have to offer him/her is a beat up old 2011 E4GT to work on? You just have to let nature take it's course. Buy the phone for what it does now or always ask that same question: "Should I wait for the next one or get this one now?"
which ROM makes Banana Pancakes?
Mine only makes Buttermilk.....
Premier program upgrade expires 12/31/12 you have a good year and two months to make a decision.
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So I'm thinking of getting this phone with my soon-to-expire premier program upgrade (especially since it looks like we wont see galaxy nexus before the end of december)
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Your Premier upgrade doesn't expire in December. You have all of 2012 to use it.
If you were thinking you could have gotten one additional 11-12mo upgrade cycle, that would have needed to be done by 10/1/2011.
When it comes to electronics, nothing is future proof!
The SGS2 is a great phone today and while it might not be the top of the line in a few months it will still be able to handle it's own.
There is one thing I am jealous of with the Galaxy Nexus, and that is the HD screen. If the SGS2 would have had an HD screen, it would be right up there with the GN. I do not count ICS because the SGS2 will eventually get it. If the GN only had a qhd screen I don't think I would care as much....Seems almost like qhd screens didn't stay around as the top dog for to long. Guess the lower end devices will be going qhd while top end goes 720p to compete.
The point is well taken that there's no such thing as a future-proofe phone. I should have qualified that I am asking if this phone appears likely to enjoy EVO or HD2-like developer love. I was spoiled with cm-support on the G1 and I want to recapture those possbilities with my next phone.
I was on the phone with Sprint for an hour and a half talking about my upgrade status and they repeatedly told me it would expire on Dec 31, 2011. I guess I'll call again and ask again. I don't know what to trust anymore. If I get another year I'll be extatic.
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The program itself ends 12/31/11 but you have until the end of next year to use your upgrade.
Just called Sprint to confirm my upgrade won't expire! Thanks so much for the heads-up, my XDA brothers XD
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I had to fight Sprint to get my last upgrade but they relented and gave it to me so now it's either ET4G or Galaxy Nexus if or whenever they get it.
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Your Premier upgrade doesn't expire in December. You have all of 2012 to use it.
If you were thinking you could have gotten one additional 11-12mo upgrade cycle, that would have needed to be done by 10/1/2011.
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I did not know that, i just checked and next September I have an upgrade available... cool.
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I had to fight Sprint to get my last upgrade but they relented and gave it to me so now it's either ET4G or Galaxy Nexus if or whenever they get it.
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Honestly, i'd go with the ET4G, the Galaxy Nexus is waaaaaay overrated
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Honestly, i'd go with the ET4G, the Galaxy Nexus is waaaaaay overrated
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Add ICS and a 720P screen to our SGS2 and you have yourself a phone that is equal to or better then the GN. We will get ICS whether it be official or not, so that will really even the playing field. So our phone is future proof until you start seeing quad core phones come out and well as Sprint LTE phones. But I would say you are good for at least the next year to year and half with the SGS2.
When the specs for the SGS3 get dropped, I am betting that will be a game changer and Samsungs flagship phone, not the Nexus.
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There is no such thing on the market. Once this phone stops getting Android updates, the community will have no choice but to dump it for the next newest. It'll probably be able to drive your car, have sex with your wife, and make banana pancakes. How will you be able to coerce a developer away from such a dream phone when all you have to offer him/her is a beat up old 2011 E4GT to work on? You just have to let nature take it's course. Buy the phone for what it does now or always ask that same question: "Should I wait for the next one or get this one now?"
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I hate you... Now I want Banana pancakes!
IMO, dual core SOCs and 1GB RAM are the major milestone for smartphones. Quad cores will improve benchmarks, but probably not much else. Cutting edge OS is what's important to me now, which the GN covers nicely
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Add ICS and a 720P screen to our SGS2 and you have yourself a phone that is equal to or better then the GN.
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Not quite. We don't have NFC or a barometer, either. The lack of NFC means we can't use Google Wallet or Beam... ever, and the barometer means slower GPS locks and we can't use any other aps that take advantage of it.
I don't quite understand why Sprint had Samsung remove the NFC chip... it's the only GS2 variant that doesn't have one, and aside from LTE, that's the newest feature everyone is jumping on lately.
This phone will have a lot of life in it, but it's not future proof.
The nexus has a cheap pentile display. Go with the epic touch you won't regret it. And it has a sa+ display!
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I was spoiled with cm-support on the G1 and I want to recapture those possbilities with my next phone.
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I really enjoyed the support out there for my EVO 4G, and was a little disappointed at the lack of options out there right now for my shiney new E4GT (not complaining, stating a fact, back off flamers)
However, read through the forums for the other variations of the SGS2 and you can see it's out there for them. I just think Sprints baby is a little late to the party, but is going to get it's fair share of cake. Read through some of the Developer posts and there is news popping up fairly regularly about test builds of CM7 and MIUI...
I am getting closer and closer to getting this. I just know a week after I do the galaxy nexus will be announced for sprint.
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I'll be honest, this is my first android phone (epic touch 4g), but I have been tinkering with anything that draws power since I was a little guy ripping apart old stereo receivers and what not! Sure, something with some more bang is bound to come out in the next few months or so; but in my opinion, a device with the capabilities exhibited by this phone are not going to be overlooked anytime soon! Some people may dump the phone and grab whatever is better on the market at that time, but dev is not going to halt for this phone anytime soon as far as I can tell. Even before getting this phone I've done lots of research on android phones and spoken to friends that have owned such, and this is phone definitely marks a milestone in my opinion. Sure it has its bugs, I get LoS once a week or so; but despite its flaws (which will be resolved by the manufacturer or else!) it is a great phone and will serve any user well for YEARS! Hell, I had a Blackberry 8330 for a few years, wasn't anything special by any means at all but with some TLC and mods it was a great phone for as long as I had it. The ET4G should last a Looooooong time...
Edit: I also wanted to say, to those who were saying things about the Galaxy Nexus coming out for Sprint. Sure you may be able to the phone with Sprint in the very near future, but is it not quite similar to the ET4G? Really I guess it depends on preference and such. From what I've read and heard, though...the phones are not THAT much different so I guess whatever feel you like best is what you should get! Cheers!
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The Galaxy S is only a year old and already abandoned. I am going with the fruit phone next time, at least I know apple will update my phone for years after the sale. And real updates, not bug fixes.
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kingsway8605 said:
If Samsung doesn't care about customers, how can it hope to keep them? | The Verge
The Galaxy S is only a year old and already abandoned. I am going with the fruit phone next time, at least I know apple will update my phone for years after the sale. And real updates, not bug fixes.
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We need lots of more articles like these..Will be putting the link on Twiter and Facebook...Just like CIQ
Straight to an iPhone really? Why not just get an HTC or Motorola or LG next time?
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Straight to an iPhone really? Why not just get an HTC or Motorola or LG next time?
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They are only slightly better than Samsung.
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If Samsung doesn't care about customers, how can it hope to keep them? | The Verge
The Galaxy S is only a year old and already abandoned. I am going with the fruit phone next time, at least I know apple will update my phone for years after the sale. And real updates, not bug fixes.
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Go get your iphone then.
If you have the mindset that allows one piece of sensationalist journalism to sway you that much, then that's probably just the phone for you.
You see, the thing is:
The author of the article in the OP is doing it wrong:
He completely glosses over the idea that Samsung actually has this right, for the average user:
The Galaxy S DOESN'T have the RAM or the resources to properly run ICS.
Why in the world would Samsung want to push an update to a device that it's just going to run poorly on? (ESPECIALLY to a device with that many millions of users).
Actually, I'm a little disappointed in The Verge for allowing such an awfully-written article to be posted, as far as the one-sidedness of it goes. They've become one of my favorite places on the web to go to for my tech news, but it's definitely NOT because of articles like this.
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Go get your iphone then.
If you have the mindset that allows one piece of sensationalist journalism to sway you that much, then that's probably just the phone for you.
You see, the thing is:
The author of the article in the OP is doing it wrong:
He completely glosses over the idea that Samsung actually has this right, for the average user:
The Galaxy S DOESN'T have the RAM or the resources to properly run ICS.
Why in the world would Samsung want to push an update to a device that it's just going to run poorly on? (ESPECIALLY to a device with that many millions of users).
Actually, I'm a little disappointed in The Verge for allowing such an awfully-written article to be posted, as far as the one-sidedness of it goes. They've become one of my favorite places on the web to go to for my tech news, but it's definitely NOT because of articles like this.
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The Galaxy S has the same specs as the nexus s. And why are you so offended that I am going with an iPhone lol. Is your life so empty that you feel the need to cheer for a corporation? I don't get fanboyism, never will. Samsung has screwed their customers repeatedly since the first gen of android devices, and people are starting to catch on.
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The Galaxy S has the same specs as the nexus s. And why are you so offended that I am going with an iPhone lol. Is your life so empty that you feel the need to cheer for a corporation? I don't get fanboyism, never will. Samsung has screwed their customers repeatedly since the first gen of android devices, and people are starting to catch on.
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They might have the same specs, but the Galaxy S comes with TouchWiz. The Nexus S doesn't. Difference explained?
Don't be surprised that the developer version of a phone gets the updates and the mass-sold consumer version with branding and skins does not, however inconvenient.
Apart from that, they have supported it for about 19 months now through 3 major releases, instead of their promise of 18 months and a minimum of 1 major release.
So he bought the phone with Eclair, it got an upgrade to Froyo and another upgrade to Gingerbread and he's *****ing that he wont get ICS?! The Galaxy S has already had TWO major OS updates, do people really expect these things to get every major update as long as they own the device? The sense of entitlement that some people seem to have is absolutely rediculous.
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They might have the same specs, but the Galaxy S comes with TouchWiz. The Nexus S doesn't. Difference explained?
Don't be surprised that the developer version of a phone gets the updates and the mass-sold consumer version with branding and skins does not, however inconvenient.
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Exactly, which is why I said I am going with the iPhone next time. That way I don't have to worry about it. I will just know I am going to get updates. Like I said, I. don't have allegiances to certain companies. I just go with the company that is going to treat me best, and right now, that company appears to be apple.
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The Galaxy S has the same specs as the nexus s. And why are you so offended that I am going with an iPhone lol. Is your life so empty that you feel the need to cheer for a corporation? I don't get fanboyism, never will. Samsung has screwed their customers repeatedly since the first gen of android devices, and people are starting to catch on.
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Fanboyism?
WTF.
Look at the facts, and maybe you'll understand...
(I'll take this slowly, but try to keep up.)
I know that the Galaxy S and the Nexus S have the same specs:
That's common knowledge.
But:
The Nexus S doesn't have to run Touchwiz, hence the update.
The Galaxy S would HAVE to run Touchwiz, so it would have to also be included in any update, because THAT'S WHAT 10+ MILLION AVERAGE USERS WOULD EXPECT TO SEE, THE SAME UI THEY HAD THE DAY BEFORE. (sorry for the Allcaps, but it's just frustrating to me that someone doesn't understand this.)
Touchwiz, in an update with ICS, would BARELY fit:
It might run, but users would quickly get low storage space messages, and memory-issue crashes.
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Fanboyism?
WTF.
Look at the facts, and maybe you'll understand...
(I'll take this slowly, but try to keep up.)
I know that the Galaxy S and the Nexus S have the same specs:
That's common knowledge.
But:
The Nexus S doesn't have to run Touchwiz, hence the update.
The Galaxy S would HAVE to run Touchwiz, so it would have to also be included in any update, because THAT'S WHAT 10+ MILLION AVERAGE USERS WOULD EXPECT TO SEE, THE SAME UI THEY HAD THE DAY BEFORE. (sorry for the Allcaps, but it's just frustrating to me that someone doesn't understand this.)
Touchwiz, in an update with ICS, would BARELY fit:
It might run, but users would quickly get low storage space messages, and memory-issue crashes.
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See post right before yours.
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Exactly, which is why I said I am going with the iPhone next time. That way I don't have to worry about it. I will just know I am going to get updates. Like I said, I. don't have allegiances to certain companies. I just go with the company that is going to treat me best, and right now, that company appears to be apple.
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They treat you best?
How, by giving you updates that your phone can handle?
You applaud them for that, yet you think it's a bad thing when a company (Samsung) wouldn't send an update to a device that COULDN'T properly handle one?
Apple's way around the issue is to rarely update their hardware, so that it can handle any update they throw at it for 2+ years.
Samsung (and the major Android manufacturers in general) deals with it by continuously pushing the envelope by releasing cutting-edge hardware, and then updating software to the devices that can handle it.
Which would you rather have? 2 year old hardware, and last year's updates, or tomorrow's hardware and tomorrow's updates?
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So he bought the phone with Eclair, it got an upgrade to Froyo and another upgrade to Gingerbread and he's *****ing that he wont get ICS?! The Galaxy S has already had TWO major OS updates, do people really expect these things to get every major update as long as they own the device? The sense of entitlement that some people seem to have is absolutely rediculous.
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You are aware that the Galaxy S on att and tmo still have Froyo? And I didn't buy anything except the epic touch from Samsung. As I have said repeatedly, unlike some, I don't cheer for corporations when it comes to plastic with electrical components inside, I just go with the company that will treat me best, and from the looks of it, Apple appears to be that company with a record of providing almost 3 years of true os updates (bug fixes don't count). If you guys want to buy from a company that has demonstrated that it does not care about you after a sale, based solely on fanboyism, then that is your prerogative. I have no desire to argue with you over who the best phone company is because I have a life lol.
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See post right before yours.
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I did:
You're getting dumber and dumber as this goes on.
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Exactly, which is why I said I am going with the iPhone next time. That way I don't have to worry about it. I will just know I am going to get updates. Like I said, I. don't have allegiances to certain companies. I just go with the company that is going to treat me best, and right now, that company appears to be apple.
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Whatever tips your balance off course, for many it would be because of other things but at least this is honest reasoning.
Shouting that Samsung lied to costumers and mistreats them is just stupid and shows no understanding of market mechanisms, but displays tunnelvision instead.
I understand it sucks, having had an Omnia2 before my Galaxy S2, but it was known beforehand that the updatecycle would stop somewhere at the end of 2011, as it is to end at Q3/Q4-2012 for the Galaxy S2. By that time the same discussion will start, this time about the Galaxy Nexus, with the same stupid arguments, petitions and tears.
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Apple appears to be that company with a record of providing almost 3 years of true os updates (bug fixes don't count).
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This is the crux of the whole thing:
I would never, in my worst "phone-geek" nightmare, dream of owning the same device for 3 years, I don't care which phone it was.
That's an eternity in terms of technological advances, and if that's what you're looking for: a phone that'll still be updated (software-wise) for 3 years, then an iphone is EXACTLY what you need.
I'd rather have a hole in my head than to be stuck with ANY phone for that long.
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You are aware that the Galaxy S on att and tmo still have Froyo? And I didn't buy anything except the epic touch from Samsung. As I have said repeatedly, unlike some, I don't cheer for corporations when it comes to plastic with electrical components inside, I just go with the company that will treat me best, and from the looks of it, Apple appears to be that company with a record of providing almost 3 years of true os updates (bug fixes don't count). If you guys want to buy from a company that has demonstrated that it does not care about you after a sale, based solely on fanboyism, then that is your prerogative. I have no desire to argue with you over who the best phone company is because I have a life lol.
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If Samsung didn't honestly care for it's customers people would have never gotten an update at all.
It's entertaining that you're white knighting yourself with the supposed honor of refusing to buy Sansung devices because of them no longer supporting year-old hardware.
Things move fast, the employees that make the updates at Samsung don't have any obligation to continue to work on old hardware.
The Evo Shift isn't getting ICS and it released after the Galaxy S line. Is HTC suddenly not carrying for its customers?
Why, exactly do you care?
Your device WILL get ICS and the chances are you are rooted and even if it didn't [get ICS] some developer(s) is/are working on it.
Hell, I'm sure that rooted Galaxy S users will get it.
Enjoy getting gimped updates with features cut out once your apple device is no longer the top-of-their-line.
There is absolutely no reason for people with a device that old to expect ICS via their manufacturer.
You're basically saying that Samsung should update phones that it shouldn't really be on to it, providing a lackluster User experience.
The users would get all sorts of issues with it and no amount of features would change the fact that some of the issues would push that customer away from that manufacturer.
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So sorry that Android's updates are taking much bigger steps than IOS' updates.
I believe the thing that the OP doesn't take into account is that even apple phones usually become to slow for the latest and greatest iOS version after 18 months to 2 years. In which case, you are back at square one if you had bought any number of android phones.
Regardless, 6 in one hand, half a dozen in the other.
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I just found out that my Commodore 64 does not support running Windows 7....
Damn it, I am pissed! Screw corporate america! Where's my tent, I'm going to "occupy" their headquarters!!
Not seen it posted yet but thoughts?
http://androidcommunity.com/new-galaxy-nexus-spotted-in-benchmark-tests-20120130/
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I just bought this last week. If there is already a nexus refresh I will be pissed as a customer.
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It would be really stupid for google to do that because it would completely ruin the nexus name as being the bar setter for that OS which is what google has always referred the nexus devices to be, also sprint confirmed (I think, correct me if I'm wrong) that it will ship with a 1.2 Ghz processor
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This just isn't Google's way. They release a Nexus 1 time per year. They wouldn't trump their Nexus with a tiny spec bump 4 months later.
Whoever made up that photo has pissed off a lot of people. This has got to be fake. Google is not this stupid.
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Whoever made up that photo has pissed off a lot of people. This has got to be fake. Google is not this stupid.
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Its not a fake photo. It may however be a spoofed. The Sprint GN will probably be released around June, a half year+ after the original release. I think its more stupid of Google to release a half year old phone to such a supportive carrier (only carrier with GV integration and official Google Wallet) than to refresh the specs and piss off some users. You would have had it for months, and it will likely be unavailable on other carriers anyway.
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It could be the first Galaxy Nexus was rushed prior to the newer version of the OMAP chip being ready. Now that the chip is ready I could see Samsung using the newer chip with future production.
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Haven't looked at the photo, but if this is true (which I doubt it is), it's probably for the Sprint Galaxy Nexus.
Frustrating indeed . After paying this much I figured its all good because its the only nexus that'll be out for a full year.
I still think it will be but we ll see
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Good lord, the intarwebs are ablaze with this story already:
http://www.google.com/search?q=galaxy nexus sgx544
I don't know what to think about this one. On one hand, it seems like plenty of sites and people have been complaining that the hardware specs should have been buffed a little bit, so I could see it happening. On the other hand, this seems like an incredibly unpopular thing for Google to do.
I was about to pull the trigger on buying one tomorrow, now I think I'll hold off until the dust settles on this story.
Additionally, it would be pretty f'd up for them to release a clearly superior model on Sprint and give the finger to the Verizon and GSM unlocked versions.
My opinion: Not going to happen.
Galaxy Nexus is fast enough (and will get faster with Android 4.1, 4.2, 4.5 ...) and there's no reason for Google to do this at all.
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Good lord, the intarwebs are ablaze with this story already:
http://www.google.com/search?q=galaxy nexus sgx544
I don't know what to think about this one. On one hand, it seems like plenty of sites and people have been complaining that the hardware specs should have been buffed a little bit, so I could see it happening. On the other hand, this seems like an incredibly unpopular thing for Google to do.
I was about to pull the trigger on buying one tomorrow, now I think I'll hold off until the dust settles on this story.
Additionally, it would be pretty f'd up for them to release a clearly superior model on Sprint and give the finger to the Verizon and GSM unlocked versions.
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Well I think it'd be pretty crazy for them to do this. And they didn't do it with the Nexus S on Sprint...
But if this is the Sprint version, we won't be seeing it for months from now, so I don't think it should keep anyone from buying one now...
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Well I think it'd be pretty crazy for them to do this. And they didn't do it with the Nexus S on Sprint...
But if this is the Sprint version, we won't be seeing it for months from now, so I don't think it should keep anyone from buying one now...
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I'd be surprised if they did, but then again MWC 2012 is right around the corner...
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I'd be surprised if they did, but then again MWC 2012 is right around the corner...
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But given their launch of the Nexus 1, Nexus S, and now Galaxy Nexus. They've no reason to release another till December 2012 lol.
its been a little over a month since the gnex was release this is a stupid move, if they did that, i would be seriously pissed =/
Everyone nows google ****ed it up with the camera on the galaxy nexus, they should have used the SAME camera module found on the galaxy s ii (which is great) , a fgaster cpu/gpu would be nice too, 1280x720 are a lot of pixels to push , i think there's a 50/50 % of this happening, i kinda would like it , if there's a galaxy nexus s coming , they're gonna show it in the mwc at the end of this month.
Why is everyone saying the galaxy nexus on sprint will be out in June?
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Its not a fake photo. It may however be a spoofed. The Sprint GN will probably be released around June, a half year+ after the original release. I think its more stupid of Google to release a half year old phone to such a supportive carrier (only carrier with GV integration and official Google Wallet) than to refresh the specs and piss off some users. You would have had it for months, and it will likely be unavailable on other carriers anyway.
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I see no reason why they would refresh specs. They didn't for the Nexus S 4G, and it released half a year later than the Nexus S.
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I see no reason why they would refresh specs. They didn't for the Nexus S 4G, and it released half a year later than the Nexus S.
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Same goes for the Nexus S on AT&T. There's no reason for Google to fragment their Nexus line, and piss off their loyal customers. Google really has no real gain in doing a refresh, so why would they. They chose these specs to offer a specific experience with their devices, not be apart of some spec war. The most Sprint customers would get differently is a slightly bigger battery; I don't expect anymore than that.
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Everyone nows google ****ed it up with the camera on the galaxy nexus, they should have used the SAME camera module found on the galaxy s ii (which is great) , a fgaster cpu/gpu would be nice too, 1280x720 are a lot of pixels to push , i think there's a 50/50 % of this happening, i kinda would like it , if there's a galaxy nexus s coming , they're gonna show it in the mwc at the end of this month.
Why is everyone saying the galaxy nexus on sprint will be out in June?
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Everyone is saying June because that's right about the time Sprint's LTE network goes live. It could happen in May, but June is the more likely target date for Sprint's first LTE device.
Let's please stop with the multiple threads omg!
It's not Google that does this. This is entirely Samsung's doing and Samsung own a lot of rights for this phone. Samsung got their name on the phone, they got it called 'Galaxy Nexus' instead of 'Nexus Prime' that was the original name and it made some deals with some carriers for customized versions of Galaxy Nexus.
Sadly it is out of Google's hands.
Hey guys,
My contract ends at the end of July. I've already been looking at what device to upgrade to.
I'm seriously considering the Gnex. I won't be able to afford a high-end device like One X or the Galaxy SIII, so I was kinda settling on this, or possibly the One S if it drops in price.
I'm a HTC Sense fanboy, but recently I have began to get annoyed with the way Android works. I'm frustrated that it takes OEMs ages to push out OS updates to their handsets. (E.g, my phone is getting ICS around May/June, by then Jellybean would be announced, making ICS 'old')
So basically I'm think of going the pure Google way.
My simple questions.
1) will the device still be worth it by August?
2) how futureproofed is it? Will it get official upgrades beyond Jellybean?
3) how much can I expect the rough price to be of a Gnex by Summer? (Sim-free)
4) when will Google announce the succesor? (At the jellybean event or around October?)
Thanks for the assistance
EDIT: sorry, this should have gone to the Q&A...! Sorry guys, hope you can still help!
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1) will the device still be worth it by August?
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depends on what you consider "worth it". Yes, it will still be just as good of a phone in August (I'll no doubt still be using mine). And especially if you're cost-constrained.
2) how futureproofed is it? Will it get official upgrades beyond Jellybean?
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I'd be surprised if we see the next version officially after JB. But we'll see what direction Android goes in. That's a long time in the future.
3) how much can I expect the rough price to be of a Gnex by Summer? (Sim-free)
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Again, who knows? Its already in the mid $500's, dipping to mid $400's on deal sites. I expect it to be in the low $400's (if you're talking brand-new SIM free units) if I had to guess. But no one knows. That's at least 4 months from now.
For comparison, look at the GSM Nexus S, which still sells for just shy of $300 unlocked right now coming up on 1.5yrs old.
4) when will Google announce the succesor? (At the jellybean event or around October?)
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They announce a Nexus with each launch of Android. Probably again in October/November 2012. We may hear about JB earlier than that, but they launch the Nexus to actually release the new OS version.
Hello guys, its August now, and my contract is up.
Is this still worth it then? Any help is appreciated.
My other alternative is the One S...
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Hello guys, its August now, and my contract is up.
Is this still worth it then? Any help is appreciated.
My other alternative is the One S...
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Well I know several carriers/retailers in the US are now offering the Nexus free with new 2-year contract, so if you find the same type of deal in the UK then I would say it is definitely worth it.
Edit: Should have read your OP closer. Looks like the sim free Nexus off contract is still around $500 in the UK.
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Hello guys, its August now, and my contract is up.
Is this still worth it then? Any help is appreciated.
My other alternative is the One S...
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The galaxy nexus is still worth it, and imo the best smartphone you can buy. Although if you can wait 3 months maybe, the next nexus should be releasing November/December and it might be better to use your contract on that phone instead of the $350 current nexus.
Cheers guys! Been leaning towards this as well. The phone is on a 2 year contract, so my worry is, after 2 years, will the phone still get Google support? I mean, how much more can android advance now?
What else are they going to add, which will require more powerful hardware?
The next nexus is likely to be based on The S3, and there doesn't seem to be a huge change In performance.
Hmmm..
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If your other choice is the One S, I'd still go for the Gnex. You can be sure that it will be supported longer than the One S.
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Cheers guys! Been leaning towards this as well. The phone is on a 2 year contract, so my worry is, after 2 years, will the phone still get Google support? I mean, how much more can android advance now?
What else are they going to add, which will require more powerful hardware?
The next nexus is likely to be based on The S3, and there doesn't seem to be a huge change In performance.
Hmmm..
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Well with the Nexus being a 'pure' Google phone I would think it will be supported longer than other devices but the thing to keep in mind is this has been out for 9 months already, so I wouldn't expect much in the official update department come a year or year and a half from now.
To this day there is still no phone available that I would take over my Galaxy Nexus.
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To this day there is still no phone available that I would take over my Galaxy Nexus.
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Bingo! :good:
First things first
1. Its surely worth it to buy a GN. I played with my friends SIII and it sucks. It looks like a ugly white big egg. My GN performs a lot better than his SIII
2. We will get future android support yes. Imagine that the nexus s has official jellybean support.
3. I bought mine for only $403. Do you know sweet that is for such a beauty of a smartphone
Once you buy a nexus phone you will never go to a non nexus phone again... ( who agrees with me)
Andddd you will get the best custom roms and kernels, because we have the best developers. Also a GREAT community.
But see for yourself
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First things first
1. Its surely worth it to buy a GN. I played with my friends SIII and it sucks. It looks like a ugly white big egg. My GN performs a lot better than his SIII
2. We will get future android support yes. Imagine that the nexus s has official jellybean support.
3. I bought mine for only $403. Do you know sweet that is for such a beauty of a smartphone
Once you buy a nexus phone you will never go to a non nexus phone again... ( who agrees with me)
Andddd you will get the best custom roms and kernels, because we have the best developers. Also a GREAT community.
But see for yourself
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+1000!
I just came off a 2-year Verizon contract with my Droid X, and purchased a Play Store GNex GSM (unlocked) version for $376 or so (with taxes and shipping). I am using a $30/mo. T-Mobile Monthly 4G prepaid plan (100 minutes, unlimited data and texts) SIM card with this phone, but T-Mobile is not in my area, so I mostly roam on AT&T, which is the only local GSM provider (and with whom T-Mobile have a roaming agreement). Read the thread $30/mo. phone plan thread, and learn how you can easily live within the parameters of the TMO plan that I describe. There are lots of folks available to help you with VoIP issues/setup.
I must say that my Droid X was a real workhorse for me, with a very high quality build. Despite the locked bootloader, I ran over 15 different ROMs on it, from Froyo and up to and including multiple Ice Cream Sandwich roms. My wife also had the Droid X, but is very tough on her phones, and burned through 3 of them in 2 years. The GNex is definitely not built as solid as the Droid X, but I baby my electronics and think the GNex will suit me wonderfully. However, my wife just got the SGSIII 2 days ago, and I seriously doubt that it will last 6 months. Talk about a plastic phone! Though the hardware is better, our modded GNex devices will run much better than an unmodded SGSIII. Take the plunge, I don't think you'll regret it!
I won't be able to afford a high-end device like One X or the Galaxy SIII, so I was kinda settling on this
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Word of advice -- never use that phrasing when talking talking about your GF/Wife...
I will only ever buy a Google supported phone -- the best hardware in the world is not worth it - if its not supported. Look at how quickly companies turn their back on a device once they have a new model that has as its main selling point the latest version of android.
They are in the business of selling phones, not making geeks happy. And the carriers are in business of milking their customers like a bunch of cows -- so its not their interest either. Folks give google a hard time, but hey -- they are the only company out there that is not trying to screw me while bragging about how awesome they are..
As much as I love my Nexus we are getting VERY close to Q4 and the next Nexus could be coming by November. If you can, stick it out and get that.
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There probably will be new nexus with beefed up specs and everything.. if you're fine with older specs or need cheaper device, gnex is a beautiful device... however, if I were you, I will wait for next nexus
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miketoasty said:
To this day there is still no phone available that I would take over my Galaxy Nexus.
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Really, until the next Nexus is for sale, its hard to suggest any other phone than the GNex as a complete package.
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Its not worth it to start a 2 year contract with right now. If I were you, I would buy the Gnex from google for $350. And then, sign up for a 2 year deal for an s3. Then promptly sell the unopened s3 for a profit.
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As much as I love my Nexus we are getting VERY close to Q4 and the next Nexus could be coming by November. If you can, stick it out and get that.
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There probably will be new nexus with beefed up specs and everything.. if you're fine with older specs or need cheaper device, gnex is a beautiful device... however, if I were you, I will wait for next nexus
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Based on all the rave reviews I am seeing on here about everyone loving their GNex; what from a hardware perspective could make it worth waiting for the next Nexus?
I mean obviously there are some things that the GNex is missing that would be nice, HDMI and micro SD are two things that come to mind. It sounds like the GNex has an amazing display and is the ideal size (even though it is pentile), so I suppose there is potential for a slight improvement in that department. I am assuming they would throw a quad core in the next one, but from what I have read, performance is not really an issue with the GNex. I'm just not sure that it would really be worth the wait as I don't think the next one is going to be nearly as big of an upgrade that it was going from the single core smartphones that many of us had before to the GNex.
Another way I look at these types of things is the sooner you upgrade after your contract expires the better b/c then you get the next upgrade that much sooner.
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Hello guys, its August now, and my contract is up.
Is this still worth it then? Any help is appreciated.
My other alternative is the One S...
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My GF has the Galaxy Nexus, I have HTC. We both went to an outdoor event where it was really dust, the grounds were dirt.
She used her phone all day, I used mine a few times.
By the end of the day, my HTC had dust UNDERNEATH the glass screen! However, her's had no such problems.
My brother says that the high end Samsungs are sealed air-tight.
My next phone will be either the Galaxy S 4 or next gen Nexus. No more HTC for me.
Just get a GN from Play Store for 350$. Next year you will get a great deal on the new GN model, if you want it. I personally don't like to have contracts so I'm sticking with phones purchased directly from Google.
http://www.talkandroid.com/137572-j...y-s-iii-to-start-rolling-out-on-october-25th/
Interesting.
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Looks legit. Dammit.
I heard about the update this afternoon so I ODIN'd back to UCLH9......wishful thinking.
I'm staying up tonight.
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Bet this is gonna end up like ICS for the S2 series. AT&T is gonna be the last to get JB.
Stock ICS on my S3
.... i'm not even a Sprint customer.... but am i the only one who noticed in the screen cap of that message where it says:
"This software update will be pushed to existing Sprint Samsung Galaxy S3 customers over a few week period."
Think if you're staying up all night.... i wouldn't recommend it. haha
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.... i'm not even a Sprint customer.... but am i the only one who noticed in the screen cap of that message where it says:
"This software update will be pushed to existing Sprint Samsung Galaxy S3 customers over a few week period."
Think if you're staying up all night.... i wouldn't recommend it. haha
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Well yeah, that's typically how updates roll out. Or at least over a few day period. Not sure if it was that article or another similar one I read but it stated it would likely be week before everyone had the update. On the bright side we will have a solid release for roms, and maybe JB source.
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It's on the open source site already
I didn't confirm but someone else did say this on the sprint forum
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Bet this is gonna end up like ICS for the S2 series. AT&T is gonna be the last to get JB.
Stock ICS on my S3
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+1 I think Xmas, maybe. ATT is probably going to make sure it performs worse than the iphone now that it has lte.
I have to say though, I'm fairly happy with a mod'd tw and the Google Now for ICS... But I still think the wifi stinks even with uchl9.
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I call BS, there have been ZERO reports of Sprint users actually getting the update on their phones yet:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=10943
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+1 I think Xmas, maybe. ATT is probably going to make sure it performs worse than the iphone now that it has lte.
I have to say though, I'm fairly happy with a mod'd tw and the Google Now for ICS... But I still think the wifi stinks even with uchl9.
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Really? You think AT&T is going to voluntarily make it perform worse than the iPhone? Soooo.... AT&T is the ONLY carrier with the iPhone? I did not know that. Not to mention that i don't recall ever really going into an AT&T store and having an employee walk up to me vigorously promoting the iPhone trying to force me into buying one as if it's the JesusPhone. If they did, i'd walk right the hell out.
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Really? You think AT&T is going to voluntarily make it perform worse than the iPhone? Soooo.... AT&T is the ONLY carrier with the iPhone? I did not know that. Not to mention that i don't recall ever really going into an AT&T store and having an employee walk up to me vigorously promoting the iPhone trying to force me into buying one as if it's the JesusPhone. If they did, i'd walk right the hell out.
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They used to do this when it was exclusive but they don't anymore.
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They used to do this when it was exclusive but they don't anymore.
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BS... It was the complete opposite. Their profit margins off of the iPhone are slim to none as compared to other phones they sold at the time. Still is that way to this day...
http://www.technobuffalo.com/compan...out-android-4-1-1-jelly-bean-to-galaxy-s-iii/
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Hopefully ATT will get JB by next week.
If I could down vote this I would. Freaking people
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Really? You think AT&T is going to voluntarily make it perform worse than the iPhone? Soooo.... AT&T is the ONLY carrier with the iPhone? I did not know that. Not to mention that i don't recall ever really going into an AT&T store and having an employee walk up to me vigorously promoting the iPhone trying to force me into buying one as if it's the JesusPhone. If they did, i'd walk right the hell out.
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Yes, I do. I know for a fact that that iphone customers are the vast majority of the customer base, have been for years now, historically 20 Iphones are sold for every other phone combined. In the last quarter with three months of Android sales with great models like the HTC and GS3, they still sold 5x as many Iphones and the new model was only available for one month.
In addition att tweaks the network and the build.prop in Android to insure that the iphone outperforms other devices (so long as there is capacity). There are known cases where android phones were miss-identified to the network as to their speed capacity. Iphones don't have the new pat apn and using it on a LTE apple device won't get you a network connection.
Simply put ATT doesn’t really care about android phones and only sells them to satisfy a niche market and to fill out price points. They don't have much pull with Apple for bloatware or the timing of updates. The gs3 l9 firmware patch removed 2.4/5ghz switch shows that they want to reduce customers calling to the call center and any confusion people had about the bad wifi performance of the gs3 where one of the fixes was to not scan both bands.
Look at the reduced pricing for the Android phones across the board, they want to move them out. The Sony TL will be released in a couple weeks for $99, already less than the ion was at release. Ion was free at Sony's stores and websites in the last weeks. BB has been selling gs3 for $99; the TL doesn’t stand a chance.
ATT likes to pee into android firmware claiming that it doesn't meet the network standards. Every att branded android firmware update has been delayed by this excuse. Serious bugs, they will fix, it's bad publicity, updated firmware? They rather not, if they don't have to, and the longer they can string it out, the more likely you will upgrade your phone.
It's been reported that they have already gone through 3 firmware betas.
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Calm down. Lol. I don't know what you are talking about. I get great/excellent network performance out of my gs3. I pull 30+ on LTE easily. Soo many conspiracy theories.
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Interesting points, but it seems odd that they would continue to get so many exclusive android devices if they didn't really care about the market or keep that market happy. (galaxy Note, original SGS2, and now HTC one x+ just off the top of my head)
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While stan.s seems to be pushing the theory farther than most, I am glad his theory doesn't include "AT&T is updating their bloatware, blah, blah, blah."
I recently realized that AT&T already released the Galaxy Note II, which comes with Jelly Bean and includes the same three teensy bloatware apps: AT&T Messages, AT&T Hotspot, and AT&T Navigator. They've all been updated for Jelly Bean already.
Something network related seems plausible and that's what the AT&T reps indicated ("a strain on the network"); in fact, they explicitly noted that Sprint's network was much smaller, so the rollout came quicker.