I have gone through some posts that explain the difference between the two, but i am still confused which one suits my needs. I have just got myself a 16Gb Class 4 SDHC and want to install one of the two. I am on Stock Htc Rom , Unlocked BL and Rooted. What do I think about the two after going through various post here
1) Link2SD -> Supports different partitions, works with stock rom and is a good choice.
2) Data2SD -> Dont know if it supports different partitions or works on stock rom (Please make 'd33ps1x' make a Tutorial for Data2SD) but I have read that it performs best with Ext4 partition and is better than Link2SD under certain conditions ( Like Class of your Sd Card etc. ). The main reason I am confused is many users here opt for it over Link2Sd.
Please correct me if i am wrong and also suggest which will be best for me. ( Please dont ask me test them for myself as I dont know if Data2SD will work with my Stock Rom and a Class-4 SD card)
Along with this I will like to know If its worth to make a linux swap partition or use a swapper application from market or doing without swapping is absolutely fine.
I use my WFS to play HD games so please take this into consideration when answering the question
If you need a lot of memory, just go with DATA2SD.
hellnoob said:
I have gone through some posts that explain the difference between the two, but i am still confused which one suits my needs. I have just got myself a 16Gb Class 4 SDHC and want to install one of the two. I am on Stock Htc Rom , Unlocked BL and Rooted. What do I think about the two after going through various post here
1) Link2SD -> Supports different partitions, works with stock rom and is a good choice.
2) Data2SD -> Dont know if it supports different partitions or works on stock rom (Please make 'd33ps1x' make a Tutorial for Data2SD) but I have read that it performs best with Ext4 partition and is better than Link2SD under certain conditions ( Like Class of your Sd Card etc. ). The main reason I am confused is many users here opt for it over Link2Sd.
Please correct me if i am wrong and also suggest which will be best for me. ( Please dont ask me test them for myself as I dont know if Data2SD will work with my Stock Rom and a Class-4 SD card)
Along with this I will like to know If its worth to make a linux swap partition or use a swapper application from market or doing without swapping is absolutely fine.
I use my WFS to play HD games so please take this into consideration when answering the question
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main difference is i think that data2sd uses ext4 and link2sd uses ext2 ...
i think taht data2sd is a script that installs all the app that u choose to install, on sd card partition that u made.It redirects your phone into thinking that the partition of sd card, that you made is actually the internal phone memory, and it uses it like it's internal memory...
As for link2sd it can move apk/dex/lib files separately and then creates a link to it...
link2sd leaves apps usable when usb pc storage is mounted..i am too lazy to connect the phone to computer now, since im laying in the bed, but i thinkn data2sd does it too ...
others add stuff that i didnt write, if i didn't... or if i made mistake..
Does stock htc rom supports Data2SD (i think it doesnot because stock htc rom cannot handle Ext4 partition)
Link2SD only links your applications to an external partition on the sdcard. The partition can be fat32, ext2, ext3, or ext4 but not the default fat32 partition. However, it does not move the application data to the sdcard. This is actually good if you want performance. You also get to choose which apps you want to move to sdcard. This again is good for performance in that you can keep your frequent apps on the data partition.
Data2SD on the other combines your data partition with a partition on the sdcard. The system then sees the 1GB partition as the data partition and puts ALL the applications and the application data on that space. You have no control over which ones go to the sdcard.
App2SD needs to installed as a script from recovery while Link2SD is an apk. It's basically memory vs performance (Data2SD vs Link2SD).
I would suggest that you try Link2SD. I've installed over 70 apps on sd without any speed issues.
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Does stock htc rom supports Data2SD (i think it doesnot because stock htc rom cannot handle Ext4 partition)
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there are some stock roms, that were remade, and they support data2sd... search for them ...
AceRoom said:
Link2SD only links your applications to an external partition on the sdcard. The partition can be fat32, ext2, ext3, or ext4 but not the default fat32 partition. However, it does not move the application data to the sdcard. This is actually good if you want performance. You also get to choose which apps you want to move to sdcard. This again is good for performance in that you can keep your frequent apps on the data partition.
Data2SD on the other combines your data partition with a partition on the sdcard. The system then sees the 1GB partition as the data partition and puts ALL the applications and the application data on that space. You have no control over which ones go to the sdcard.
App2SD needs to installed as a script from recovery while Link2SD is an apk. It's basically memory vs performance (Data2SD vs Link2SD).
I would suggest that you try Link2SD. I've installed over 70 apps on sd without any speed issues.
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I think that you are right ... link2sd is kind of best, BUT ... I use data2sd for some time now, and performance isn't bad at all ... It's actually good ...
p.s. i have a class 10 sd card ...
Help setting up Link2SD is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21119907#post21119907
I use link2sd without swap partition for my stock rom. Im not sure about swap function, so I don't use it.
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I'm now using S2E with CM7.2 RIM and it doesn't causes any problem to me. I think it's the best option, but which option do you think is the best?
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I'm now using S2E with CM7.2 RIM and it doesn't causes any problem to me. I think it's the best option, but which option do you think is the best?
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i use data2sd by jikantaru ... on my cm 7.2 and it works well... but many say that link2sd is better, and I'm too bored to change now ... I'm even too lazy to upgrade to latest nightly of cm ..
So i guess answer is link2sd but oppinions are different, and many of us like ability to change anything they like, and link2sd gives lots of options
And about data2sd, you just can't affect anything... It simply instals stuff on your ext4 partition, the end
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p.s. i have a class 10 sd card ...
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I unfortunately have a class 2 8GB. I didn't know about the classes when I bought this one to replace the stock 2GB and I bought it only a couple of months back. It has been decent enough though I can't really judge cause I haven't tried out faster ones. What kind of read and write speeds do you get?
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I unfortunately have a class 2 8GB. I didn't know about the classes when I bought this one to replace the stock 2GB and I bought it only a couple of months back. It has been decent enough though I can't really judge cause I haven't tried out faster ones. What kind of read and write speeds do you get?
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there is a thread about sd card speeds, i will post it later on...
my sd card has something like 6 to 9 write speed, and read speeds were maxed out at about 15...on any card, so i guess its because of hardware... it couldn't go over that ... (speeds are in MB/s)...
[edit]: here is the thread i mentioned http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1472314
hellnoob said:
I have gone through some posts that explain the difference between the two, but i am still confused which one suits my needs. I have just got myself a 16Gb Class 4 SDHC and want to install one of the two. I am on Stock Htc Rom , Unlocked BL and Rooted. What do I think about the two after going through various post here
1) Link2SD -> Supports different partitions, works with stock rom and is a good choice.
2) Data2SD -> Dont know if it supports different partitions or works on stock rom (Please make 'd33ps1x' make a Tutorial for Data2SD) but I have read that it performs best with Ext4 partition and is better than Link2SD under certain conditions ( Like Class of your Sd Card etc. ). The main reason I am confused is many users here opt for it over Link2Sd.
Please correct me if i am wrong and also suggest which will be best for me. ( Please dont ask me test them for myself as I dont know if Data2SD will work with my Stock Rom and a Class-4 SD card)
Along with this I will like to know If its worth to make a linux swap partition or use a swapper application from market or doing without swapping is absolutely fine.
I use my WFS to play HD games so please take this into consideration when answering the question
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i use link to sd...
and i made a partition of 4gb......
and know wanna make of 1gb only.....means i wanna delete 4 gb partion without loosing my data....of 16 gb...
plsss help
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Hi
Does a rom exist which features gingerbread 2.3 and sense UI which doesn't require a custom hboot or a partitioned SD card. I.e. will run from a fully standard rooted htc desire?
If so what is it called, if not will someone briefly explain what the extra partition is required for?
thank you
Jim
dont know if there is one without need of an ext partition.
But its very usefull!
Why you need it?
Because, Dev's have moved files from the system to the partition on the sd.
In most cases you gain much more space for apps.
If you want to know more, search the wiki or forum for : a2sd, data2sd, data2ext, and so on.
its very easy to do, but safe all your data on the sd before!
only thing you need is a 500+ free space on your sd-card
if you have a linux, you only need to install gparted
else
start a linux-livecd of your choice(maybe Gparted-livecd)
Insert your Sd into a Cardreader
if you already use gparted, its easy, there will be an fat 32 partition
click resize and move the right slider so you gain about 500mb-1gb free space
now click into the gray area and click new
than partition as ext (would suggest ext-3 (best suported))
you should be done
now you can try roms wich need ext-partition
good luck
You can run roms with standard hboot but you need an ext partition purely because you will install about 3 apps and you will run out of space. That's why they make it mandatory to have.
Jim Mc said:
Hi
Does a rom exist which features gingerbread 2.3 and sense UI which doesn't require a custom hboot or a partitioned SD card. I.e. will run from a fully standard rooted htc desire?
If so what is it called, if not will someone briefly explain what the extra partition is required for?
thank you
Jim
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Now that you know why you need EXT partition here is 1 of many tutorials how to do it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9580475&postcount=2
you need 1 Fat32 partition followed by 1 EXT4 partition (recommended by most developers 1GB if you want to use sense 3.0 goodies).
I have the same question: which ROM actually gives you gingerbread and sense 3.0 at the same time? There is no problem with partitioned SD-card.
So far I have found this post from Cool Kingdom, which seems (from comments) great:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1040121
havn't tried it yet, but just wondering if there is anything to choose from?
PS: is there a way to partition my SD card without card reader, just using the phone itself?
Thanks a lot
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PS: is there a way to partition my SD card without card reader, just using the phone itself?
Thanks a lot
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New versions of ClockworkMod Recovery can do it under Advanced/Partition SD.
You can install InsertCoin - it's a great gingerbread and sense 3.0 rom. I've been using it for over a month and it's great.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016940
About the ext partition - I think it's a must. You'll get plenty of space for apps...
Looking at the Cool Kingdom rom on youtube, it seems pretty laggy in comparison to the InsertCoin rom I have installed on my desire. InsertCoin seems to be more optimised I find, but you'll need to install the nightly version to have 3D widgets and the 3D homescreen.
Hey People,
As the title shows I have some questions about using Link2sd correctly.
First off my phone is rooted and is using a standard VM rom with most of the bloatware already removed and apps2sd built into the rom.
I am only using a 4 gig SD card that has 2 partitions.
In Link2sd SD(/mnt/sdcard) card shows total .97GB and SD Card 2nd Part (/data/sdext2) has total 2.84GB.
I think I have them backwards, should /mnt/sdcard be the larger partition since that is the one I have access to?
And what is the difference between Linking something to the SD card and just moving it to the SD card?
From what I have gathered when something is Linked to the SD card it gets moved to the /data/sdext2.
And if you just move it to the SD card it gets moved to the /mnt/sdcard partition.
When would you choose one over the other?
Thanks
Quick study Links2SD can move any app; A2SD can only move apps written to be moved to SD [/sdcard]. I prefer to use the ext2 or ext3 [/sdext] as much as possible for apps as its a native file system [android is a linux branch after all]. The fat32 can cause longer delays at boot time imo. I believe your partition sizes to be a good choice though. Your fat32 will fill up with nandroids, downloaded roms and mods, music, documents and such before you know it
Hope that helps.
Rob
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I think your ext partition is to big for a 4gb sdcard, you may want to reduce it to 1gb or 2gb if you have plenty of apps. Let me tell you more about this link2sd, app2sd and data2sd so that you will understand better and be able to decide which is suitable for your phone.
As mentioned above, link2sd moves apps to your ext2/ext3/ext4 partition. But not only apps or the apk's, it also moves the dalvik, cache, and library files supporting the apps. The advantage of link2sd is the freedom to choose which of those you want to move. You can easily check or uncheck this options during the linking process.
Native app2sd moves apps to the fat32 partition (/sdcard). And it only moves the apk, leaving cache, dalvik and library files in the internal memory. If you have several applications moved in this manner, a certain portion of your internal memory is still being consumed.
There's also Data2Sd, it creates a link of the entire /data folder and moves everything to the ext partition. Logically speaking, your ext partition becomes your /data partition. The original data partition now becomes a useless space. The advantage of this is the size of your internal memory, which is only limited to the size of your ext partition. But there's also a disadvantage, to use app2sd you need a fast sdcard (category 6 and above is recommended) because everything is now residing on the sdcard which is normally slower than the built-in memory and may result to lagging on some applications.
I have a new SD cart I have partition it like the 1i use know
How do I copy all of my staff from one card to another? So that link 2sd will work with no problem?
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anhelogr said:
I have a new SD cart I have partition it like the 1i use know
How do I copy all of my staff from one card to another? So that link 2sd will work with no problem?
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I you mean the apps linked into your old sdcard, then do this:
1. Backup all your apps using titanium backup. The backup will be stored in your /sdcard under "TitaniumBackup" folder.
2. Use a card reader to copy that folder to your new sdcard.
3. Insert your new sdcard to your phone, then download and reinstall titanium backup.
It will automatically scan for backup up files in your sdcard and will allow you to restore all your apps.
Ok thanks s I will try this
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Why is link2sd not finding my ext 2 particion ?
Is this because I used cwr to particion my SD card ?
I have made a 2gb ext2 with 512 swap I have linked a lot of apps to SD card but when I get the memory status I get the SD particion not detected
What can I do? The think is that the phone works fine
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2GB is probably more that you'll ever need. I've always used 1GB and it has not yet run out.
Could you clarify what you mean when you say that you have linked a lot of apps but the SD partition is not detected?
Does Link2SD say that the apps are on the sdcard or the apps are LINKED to SD?
AceRoom said:
2GB is probably more that you'll ever need. I've always used 1GB and it has not yet run out.
Could you clarify what you mean when you say that you have linked a lot of apps but the SD partition is not detected?
Does Link2SD say that the apps are on the sdcard or the apps are LINKED to SD?
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Well the problem is this when I open the link2sd a windows pops up and tells me to choose
Ext2 ext 3 ext 4 fat 32 if I choose ext 2 it say that it can't found the ext2 and I have to do a restart then it finds the ext2 and tells me to restart again if I do not turn the phone off there is no problem but if I turn the phone off at night I have to do this again:banghead: in order for the link2sd to find the ext2 partition if I go to link2sd settings storage use the 2end partition is not available only if I do 2 restarts
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Did you ever use data2sd or s2e or anything else which uses the sd-ext partition? It sounds like there might be a conflict between different startup scripts.
Could you open a root explorer (Or terminal or adb) and find the init.d folder.
On my CM9, the folder is at /system/system/etc/init.d
Post here a list of all the files inside that folder.
AceRoom said:
Did you ever use data2sd or s2e or anything else which uses the sd-ext partition? It sounds like there might be a conflict between different startup scripts.
Could you open a root explorer (Or terminal or adb) and find the init.d folder.
On my CM9, the folder is at /system/system/etc/init.d
Post here a list of all the files inside that folder.
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No I haven't use anythink
I have a new rom Installed with link2sd ready for use
I have a lot of free space the rom is what I wanted the only promplem is this :banghead:
The solution is never turn off my phone (I think this is no good for any phone )
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anhelogr said:
No I haven't use anythink
I have a new rom Installed with link2sd ready for use
I have a lot of free space the rom is what I wanted the only promplem is this :banghead:
The solution is never turn off my phone (I think this is no good for any phone )
Send using Htc Wildfire S
Rom Wildchild v1.1
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I've got confirmation that the Link2SD/a2sd in this ROM are working just fine. Many users have reported that; and a few users have even told me that Data2SD also works just fine (I dunno... I only use Link2SD) with the only point being that you can't delete/uninstall any of the app2sd scripts that come bundled with the ROM. If you must use Data2SD (why??) then simply install it and you're off and running. Other than that, Link2SD should work just fine (it does for me and, literally, hundreds others).
I suspect this has to do with what/how you restored from Titanium Backup... or the fact that you partitioned with CWM. No offense, but CWM's strength is in backup/recovery, not partitioning (or even partitioning WIPING, if you read a few key posts on this forum).
I suggest you format with MiniTool Partition Wizard (lots of good tutorials on XDA). I'm using ext2fs myself and it works just fine (of course, ext4fs also works... I've tried it myself).
Good luck,
Tigger31337 said:
I've got confirmation that the Link2SD/a2sd in this ROM are working just fine. Many users have reported that; and a few users have even told me that Data2SD also works just fine (I dunno... I only use Link2SD) with the only point being that you can't delete/uninstall any of the app2sd scripts that come bundled with the ROM. If you must use Data2SD (why??) then simply install it and you're off and running. Other than that, Link2SD should work just fine (it does for me and, literally, hundreds others).
I suspect this has to do with what/how you restored from Titanium Backup... or the fact that you partitioned with CWM. No offense, but CWM's strength is in backup/recovery, not partitioning (or even partitioning WIPING, if you read a few key posts on this forum).
I suggest you format with MiniTool Partition Wizard (lots of good tutorials on XDA). I'm using ext2fs myself and it works just fine (of course, ext4fs also works... I've tried it myself).
Good luck,
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I though the same that the problem is the partition method I use I will try the mini tool
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I found the problem I was selecting ext2 for link2sd but when I use mini tool it said ext3 so I load up again the card start link2sd ext3 reboot and vouala all ok know I really enjoy my phone
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Hey,I am going to "clean" install CM 7.2 Stable.I am done with Custom MTD Partitions and want to set up an ext partition on the SD card and move apps there.
Preparing for "S2E"(simple2ext:https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.krikun.s2e&hl=en )
I have got 2GB SD Card.
What should be the ideal configuration for a 2GB card in terms of :
(1)Ext Size
(2)Swap size
And what should it be ? Ext2 or Ext4 ?
According to this :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432459
“Choose Ext2, Ext3 or Ext4 for partition type based on whether your kernel supports Ext4. If it does choose it! If you don't know choose Ext2 to be safe.” Now how to find out whether your kernel supports it or not ?
Does "swap" really make any difference ?What’s up with this “swap” partition ?
It’s so confusing.Some people claim that “swap” is like virtual RAM and more RAM means a more efficient (and faster) device.
Here are the posts supporting “swap” :
http://www.mod2xtreme.com/showthrea...crease-RAM-using-Swap-File-and-Swap-Partition
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/...-the-wildfire/page__gopid__330791#entry330791
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/44675-how-to-configure-a-sd-ext-on-htc-buzz-wildfire/
While according to “Cyanogenmod” (http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Swap_and_Compcache ) and some member swap doesn’t make any diff .on android devices.
If that’s true and swape is useless then why so many forums going gaga over it on XDA at the first place ???It makes no sense. So bewildering.
Any suggestion ?Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks.
You should try 256Mb or 512Mb ext2 partition as per your convenience with 0 swap size.
After partitioning your card you need to install an a2sd script and use a2sdgui app to move apps.
Or else you could install link2sd app and i guess that moves apps to ext partition without needing a script.(haven't tried it though)
Wasimk32 said:
You should try 256Mb or 512Mb ext2 partition as per your convenience with 0 swap size.
After partitioning your card you need to install an a2sd script and use a2sdgui app to move apps.
Or else you could install link2sd app and i guess that moves apps to ext partition without needing a script.(haven't tried it though)
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Thanks for the reply,so you mean "swap" doesn't make any difference in speed and efficiency ?
I am a bit baffled.How about "S2E (simple2ext)" method ?
I have read about that here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1189249
Is that a good idea ?Any suggestion ?Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
optimusodd said:
Thanks for the reply,so you mean "swap" doesn't make any difference in speed and efficiency ?
I am a bit baffled.How about "S2E (simple2ext)" method ?
I have read about that here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1189249
Is that a good idea ?Any suggestion ?Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
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Have a nandroid backup and give it a try.
Wasimk32 said:
Have a nandroid backup and give it a try.
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Okay,What about "swap" ?
Why do some guys use swap ?Is it unnecessary ?
Here ost #12:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1189249&page=2
What should it be ? ext2 or ext4 ?
optimusodd said:
Okay,What about "swap" ?
Why do some guys use swap ?Is it unnecessary ?
Here ost #12:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1189249&page=2
What should it be ? ext2 or ext4 ?
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Swap is used when you run out of RAM space.I dont think we need it on our wildfire.Just select 0 as swap size.create SD partition from recovery,that would be easy as you don't need to be confused between ext2 or ext4.
Wasimk32 said:
Swap is used when you run out of RAM space.I dont think we need it on our wildfire.Just select 0 as swap size.create SD partition from recovery,that would be easy as you don't need to be confused between ext2 or ext4.
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I have read in some forums that "swap" increases the RAM i.e more speed and efficiency,no ???
Here is the page:
http://www.mod2xtreme.com/showthread.php?13050-SGY-GUIDE-Increase-RAM-using-Swap-File-and-Swap-Partition
Just wondering,if that can be done on Wildfire.
Android apps are specially programed to write out very specific information, making Android's Memory Manager more efficient that swap.
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Scratch0805 said:
Android apps are specially programed to write out very specific information, making Android's Memory Manager more efficient that swap.
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That means this "swap" thing is just a hype and of no use on Android devices ?
optimusodd said:
That means this "swap" thing is just a hype and of no use on Android devices ?
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You've kind of answered your own question with the link you've provided, if you think swap may be worth using, backup your SD card create a swap partition and give it a run for a while, if you think it isnt then backup everything again and create a partition without it. I had swap enabled when I first created a partition but saw no benefit at all.
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Scratch0805 said:
You've kind of answered your own question with the link you've provided, if you think swap may be worth using, backup your SD card create a swap partition and give it a run for a while, if you think it isnt then backup everything again and create a partition without it. I had swap enabled when I first created a partition but saw no benefit at all.
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Okay,I am thinking of giving this "swap" thing a try.:fingers-crossed:
Again,I have got a 2GB SD Card.
What should be the ideal configuration for a 2GB card in terms of :
(1)Ext Size (What should it be ? ext2 or ext4 ?)
(2)Swap size
Any suggestion ?
I am gonna flash CM 7.2 Stable and use "S2E (simple2ext)".
optimusodd said:
Okay,I am thinking of giving this "swap" thing a try.:fingers-crossed:
Again,I have got a 2GB SD Card.
What should be the ideal configuration for a 2GB card in terms of :
(1)Ext Size (What should it be ? ext2 or ext4 ?)
(2)Swap size
Any suggestion ?
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I am gonna flash CM 7.2 Stable and use "S2E (simple2ext)".
optimusodd said:
I am gonna flash CM 7.2 Stable and use "S2E (simple2ext)".
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I successfully made sd-ext and moved apps there (http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/44675-how-to-configure-a-sd-ext-on-htc-buzz-wildfire/), so now I have 170 MB of free space for new apps!!
Question: I noticed that my phone slowed down a lot.... does it depend on SD type (read/write speed)?
Which is the best type / brand of SD?
Is there any other setting I could optimize for speed, when having Sd-Ext enabled?
marcellen said:
I successfully made sd-ext and moved apps there (http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/44675-how-to-configure-a-sd-ext-on-htc-buzz-wildfire/), so now I have 170 MB of free space for new apps!!
Question: I noticed that my phone slowed down a lot.... does it depend on SD type (read/write speed)?
Which is the best type / brand of SD?
Is there any other setting I could optimize for speed, when having Sd-Ext enabled?
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Moving Applications data to sd-ext slows your phone down.Don’t move “application data” to sd-ext.
I suppose you are using “S2E”,right ?What’s the format of your sd-ext ? ext3 or ext4 ?
Go through this thread :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=917377
Personally, I prefer“S2E”(supports mounting sd-ext as ext4)
https://github.com/OlegKrikun/S2E
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.krikun.s2e&feature=search_result
(It works only with CyanogenMod7 and CyanogenMod9 )
Other apps you can use :
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.buak.Link2SD&hl=en
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.a0soft.gphone.app2sd&hl=en
Yes ,your card’s speed depends on the class of your card. An SD card's speed is measured by how quickly information can be read from, or written to, the card.Speed varies with the class of the card…Class 2 (2 megabytes per second), Class 4 (4 megabytes/second),Class 6 (6 megabytes/second) and so on…
You can find reviews here :
http://www.testfreaks.com/memory-cards/
Will be helpful:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=826836
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/sd-speed-test-2009-10.htm
You might be looking for these apps : (Read the description carefully before installation)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.krikun.freespace
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ales.veluscek.sdtools
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.mehrmann.sdbooster
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vaelek.sdspeedboost&hl=en
Some other hacks you can try : (Do It At Your Own Risk! I have never tried them)
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...-200-with-a-simple-tweak-hands-on-benchmarks/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1010807
If you are running out of internal memory,you can increase it through Custom MTD Partition :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1233340
HTH,Cheers!!
I used ext3, what experience do you have with ext4?
marcellen said:
I used ext3, what experience do you have with ext4?
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It's working great and ext3 should work fine too.
Acually ext4 provides better performance with journalling.
If you use an Old CWM recovery, it will convert it back to ext 3 when you backup/restore.
ext3=ext2+journalling
As ext4 is newer file system,new features have improved the performance and reliability of the filesystem when compared to ext3.
Journaling can be bad for the life of an sd-card (coz you do more writes).If you are not worried about life of the card, and the choice is based on filesystem performance only then ext4>ext3>ext2.
Ext4 can be used with journalling switched off.So "ext4 without journalling" will be best in my opinion.
There is a debate going on over it,check that out :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=800353
Hey guys,
I've searched around a lot but haven't found anything explicit to a 32 GB card's ideal partition table. I've read somewhere that the ext3 shouldn't be larger than 2 GB, is this really the case? Or is it device specific? And if thats the case, can the MT3G3 handle a larger than 2GB partition? Also, is there a point to having a swap partition? I know on Linux systems it helps with memory and the XDA SD partition guide mentions that we can have one if we wanted .. but is there a point to it?
My second question is ... should I get data2ext or a2ext? Or some other tool? The choice is pretty confusing, esp since it seems that some of them do the same thing?
I'm thinking about making the partitions equal between FAT32 and Ext3 (if swap won't make a difference).
PS - Its a Class 10 Sandisk card.
eMJaaay said:
Hey guys,
I've searched around a lot but haven't found anything explicit to a 32 GB card's ideal partition table. I've read somewhere that the ext3 shouldn't be larger than 2 GB, is this really the case? Or is it device specific? And if thats the case, can the MT3G3 handle a larger than 2GB partition? Also, is there a point to having a swap partition? I know on Linux systems it helps with memory and the XDA SD partition guide mentions that we can have one if we wanted .. but is there a point to it?
My second question is ... should I get data2ext or a2ext? Or some other tool? The choice is pretty confusing, esp since it seems that some of them do the same thing?
I'm thinking about making the partitions equal between FAT32 and Ext3 (if swap won't make a difference).
PS - Its a Class 10 Sandisk card.
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don't know what a mt3gs works with, 32 should work but no larger I doubt. as for an ext partition there is no reason to make it smaller than internal memory and 2gb should be more than enough, I have never even used more than 1gb but 1~2gb should be the perfect point.
not sure if any of the roms here support ext4, if they do I would recomend that over ext3, it won't ware the card much fast (the extra journaling does but not much)
personaly kinux swap doesn't help much, not even on the g1 but give it a shot and see if it works for you, will help with multitasking
use apps2ext for sure, not data as it will be slow
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Thanks so much for the reply
I'll give this a go! I might as well have a swap partition as well since I have so much space should the swap be smaller than the ext3 partition? I'll also look into apps2ext .. but earlier came across int2ext in CronMod .. would that work?
eMJaaay said:
I'll give this a go! I might as well have a swap partition as well since I have so much space should the swap be smaller than the ext3 partition? I'll also look into apps2ext .. but earlier came across int2ext in CronMod .. would that work?
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I'm not sure if creating swap on sd is supported on this device (at least, CM7). When I tried to partition SD using Rom Manager the device didn't see my ext partition if I selected swap partition size more than 0.
As for apps for managing ext partition usage, s2e app worked for me all right on CM9 and CM7. If you device is running CM9 you should be extra careful with such software. In example, Link2SD caused much trouble for me - constant app FC and I had to reinstall the system.
And be careful - it seems that s2e wipes ext partition at the first mount.
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If im not mistaken, your kernel has to support using a swap partition.
Look into darktremors apps2sd. A. Lot of folks seemed to like that. It allows you to choose different setups if I remember right. (A2sd, data2sd, etc)
Data2sd would prob work ok since you have a class 10 card.
Also, if you are needing more space and are running a custom rom, look up mtd partitions in development forum.
Another nice trick is bind-mount data to cache.
Mt3gs does not support higher than 32gb. Ext4 support I think is available but only through kernels or scripts.
Hope that helps.
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Different ROMs support different a2sd scripts.....you will have to find a script compatible with your ROM.
I use A2SDGUI on my phone.
A swap partition acts a virtual ram for your phone if you run low on ram memory.Not required though.
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Thanks for the replies everyone
I'm running CM7.2 which has built in moving to SD but this hardly does anything :/ I've only got around 7 apps half of which I can't even update cos its running low on space :/
Quite a few partition articles / posts, etc mention ext3 no larger than 2 GB and a swap of 0 MB :/ I've got the CM kernel that came with the last stable release (in June this year) .. does that support swap? Is there even a point of adding a swap of 0 MB .. might as well not make a swap partition at all right? I'm partitioning using Gparted on my Linux! I think S2E supports that!
Seriously guys, thank you so so much for all your replies
Update: Link2SD didn't work. S2E worked on S-ON with a 28 ish GB FAT32 Primary Partition and a 2048 MB i.e 2 GB EXT4 partition.
Hello Folks,
Now a days we have a lot of methods to fix space lack in desire phone.
Which one is the best for you?
AD2SD?
INT2SD?
APP2SD?
LINK2SD?
Any other?
Whatever the ROM uses. They all do basically the same thing - move stuff to your Ext partition to free space on phone.
except INT2SD, it converts ur ext partition into internal memory (data partition, so yh pretty much the same) but only a few roms have it
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jmcclue said:
except INT2SD, it converts ur ext partition into internal memory (data partition, so yh pretty much the same) but only a few roms have it
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I'm trying to use INT2SD but its been hard to get this working.
INT2SD comes pre-installed in some roms. how r u trying to install it? or what rom r ya trying to flash?
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jmcclue said:
INT2SD comes pre-installed in some roms. how r u trying to install it? or what rom r ya trying to flash?
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I choice RunnyMod 7.02 thats came with INT2SD and AD2SDX, but both of them i'm not able to use it.
I hv CM7r2 HBOOT and it is recognized in Amarullz setup, also, i hv a 3GB SD Ext4 partition.
The main problem is, the script setup says that my device does not support both of them.
So, my question is, if INT2SD is better than others, I'll try to fix this, but if is pretty much the same, I wont try.
And the last not least, I cant post in dev forum, so cant explain my problem there!!!
Thanks
3gb ext partition is too big. 1gb - 1.5gb max is the recommended. maybe that is the problem
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3gb ext partition is too big. 1gb - 1.5gb max is the recommended
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I Just resize with Gparted and didnt work.
do you think my SD need to align? or Gparted does itself.
tks
never used gparted, always 4ext recovery and it does the job perfect
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You dont need 3gb ext4 partition. Make it 1 gb, it is more than sufficient.
I have used APPS2SD and INT2SD both. But i like INT2SD more as it doesn't slow down my memory card and it allows me to install more apps.:fingers-crossed:
Int2sd the best, cause all other methods lacks of memory after ~100 apps installed.
Now I have got Elk759 JB 0.37.1 with Int2SD-S/
vedmed said:
Int2sd the best, cause all other methods lacks of memory after ~100 apps installed.
Now I have got Elk759 JB 0.37.1 with Int2SD-S/
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u got elks JB with INT2SD-S?? How the hell did u manage that?
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i felt that a2sd was faster than int2sd. it might be because i have a slow sd card. a2sd can be set to leave some parts on the internal memory keeping those parts faster
From what I understand (and while not very new to this, I am not an expert or a developer) there are three partitions that are restricted inside the internal ROM: apps, data, cache
People seem to agree that moving data to sd slows down the phone, so they tend to keep it in the internal memory. So the main difference between the scripts is if the move the data to sd or not. I think with most modern ones, this is an option and can be enabled or disabled.
As others said, int2sd or int2ext follows a different approach, but I think the principles and end result are the same.
I like the roms that apart from installing the script that runs at startup, they provide the control script that you can run from the terminal and check the status or enable/disable features after installing it.
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there are three partitions that are restricted inside the internal ROM: apps, data, cache
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/system
/data
/cache
vmpsr said:
People seem to agree that moving data to sd slows down the phone, so they tend to keep it in the internal memory. So the main difference between the scripts is if the move the data to sd or not. I think with most modern ones, this is an option and can be enabled or disabled.
As others said, int2sd or int2ext follows a different approach, but I think the principles and end result are the same.
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Moving dalvik cache to sd slows the phone down, everything else can be moved.
I prefer a2sd.
Depends on ROM, mostly
Most ROM devs already indicate a perference for a2sd scripts. If I recall correctly, the first AOKP builds needed m2sd, PA prefers INT2EXT and most GB ROMs used a2sd.
As for speed, try to keep app data on internal memory. Anything else can be moved. Dalvik-cache is mostly taking up half of the internal memory, so an excellent candidate to move.
darkcompanion said:
Most ROM devs already indicate a perference for a2sd scripts. If I recall correctly, the first AOKP builds needed m2sd, PA prefers INT2EXT and most GB ROMs used a2sd.
As for speed, try to keep app data on internal memory. Anything else can be moved. Dalvik-cache is mostly taking up half of the internal memory, so an excellent candidate to move.
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Do you suggest to keep Dalvik-cache on internal memory or SD ?
vittoriop77 said:
Do you suggest to keep Dalvik-cache on internal memory or SD ?
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Move dalvik and app on external, keep data on internal.
abaaaabbbb63 said:
Move dalvik and app on external, keep data on internal.
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Thanks