Display stay white after touch screen substitution - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

Hallo to all!
i've already tryied to search this topic in all the forum, but didn't find anything...pls tell me if something similar already exists!
so my problem: i have a touch pro 2 (RHOD100), and the last week i broke the touch screen (due to accidental heavy pression on it)...all works, but no TS function...
so (here starts my trouble) i decide to change by myself...i bought a new one (only TS) on ebay and make the change....
no problem with the hardware change, but now my display stay white...
some consideration:
- OS start with no problem (start sound and button sound)
- all flats are plugged correctly (checked many times)
- the backlight of the lcd works well (low light after some time)
some help? maybe i forget something important?
thanks a lot in advance to any helpers!!

db491 said:
Hallo to all!
i've already tryied to search this topic in all the forum, but didn't find anything...pls tell me if something similar already exists!
so my problem: i have a touch pro 2 (RHOD100), and the last week i broke the touch screen (due to accidental heavy pression on it)...all works, but no TS function...
so (here starts my trouble) i decide to change by myself...i bought a new one (only TS) on ebay and make the change....
no problem with the hardware change, but now my display stay white...
some consideration:
- OS start with no problem (start sound and button sound)
- all flats are plugged correctly (checked many times)
- the backlight of the lcd works well (low light after some time)
some help? maybe i forget something important?
thanks a lot in advance to any helpers!!
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When you changed the touch screen did you remove the flex cable that connects the upper half of the phone to the motherboard? Are you sure you didn't break the LCD screen itself?

hallo,
yes i remove the flat, and plug back again where changed - when i press on the TS (with white screen) i can ear the "tap"
i cannot be sure, but it light on...i think is enought...or not?
thanks for you're help!

db491 said:
hallo,
yes i remove the flat, and plug back again where changed - when i press on the TS (with white screen) i can ear the "tap"
i cannot be sure, but it light on...i think is enought...or not?
thanks for you're help!
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It looks like like either the flex cable got damaged or it's not plugged right. It could also be the LCD flex, where lcd plugs into the small connectors under the four buttons at the bottom of the touch screen not being connected properly. Did you lift the small levers where the flex cables go into the mother board or where the lcd/touch screen gets plugged in or did you just push them in?

i lift the lever where pull out the flex, and pull it down when restore the connection... and i'm almost sure about connection, also because them are so "stricted" in the plug himself...
but i find really strange that the lcd is on (completely white), you don't think so?
also if it is damaged, should be not white...or maybe, as you say, a flat problem?
this evening i will re-open it for a check...i don't know what else do...
maybe i will try to buy a complete kit (TS+lcd)...
i will surely let you know

db491 said:
i lift the lever where pull out the flex, and pull it down when restore the connection... and i'm almost sure about connection, also because them are so "stricted" in the plug himself...
but i find really strange that the lcd is on (completely white), you don't think so?
also if it is damaged, should be not white...or maybe, as you say, a flat problem?
this evening i will re-open it for a check...i don't know what else do...
maybe i will try to buy a complete kit (TS+lcd)...
i will surely let you know
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The screen being white, means it's receiving power but not video signal. There coud be different reasons for that. It happened to me couple of times. What I did was lift the connector lever, pull the flex connector out (where it connects to the motherboard) just a tiny bit and secure the connector with the lever and it worked. If the flex cable is going bad it could be that just one line or two are going bad not the whole thing, thus still delivering power but not video signal.
If your problem is with the flex buying a new screen/digitizer will not fix it. When you screen is white does it go out if you slide out the keyboard?

hallo,
sorry for late answer,
i make some test with flat, but the result is the same...
the screen always stay white, but i can ear the start sound, the pression sound, etc...so it seems it's just the lcd...
maybe i can try to buy a complete set lcd+ts?
thanks for answer

db491 said:
hallo,
sorry for late answer,
i make some test with flat, but the result is the same...
the screen always stay white, but i can ear the start sound, the pression sound, etc...so it seems it's just the lcd...
maybe i can try to buy a complete set lcd+ts?
thanks for answer
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I could be wrong, but I think it's the flex cable that is bad not the LCD screen itself. The flex cable has several small thin lines, what is happening is the power is getting to the LCD screen but the video signal is not, so most probably one of teh video signal lines is broken.

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.:: HELP Appreciated ::. Universal - WHITE SCREEN Problem...

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Hello Tech GURUS,
I returned from a long tour (I kept my XDA EXEC at home) & found that my XDA EXEC has got a problem of WHITE SCREEN!! Nothing is Displayed!!
May be brother's childrens or anyone of my friend accidentally did it in my absence(Sorry I'm NOT Sure). May be they pivoted (Turned) the screen in a WRONG DIRECTION!
That doesn't matter WHO DID IT, But the problem screwed my head & I started to trace the problem.
Symptoms:
1) Only WHITE SCREEN(with LCD Backlight), Nothing Else.
2) Charges perfectly through USB & also from Charger.
3) When I connects it to ACTIVE SYNC, it Syncs fine & I can able to explore the files/folders. Copy from & to the handset memory is also works fine.
4) Tried to enter into BOOTLOADER Mode(by pressing Light+Power+Reset), there also got a BLANK SCREEN (NO LCD Backlight).
5) TOUCH SCREEN detects TAPs & make sounds (Tick Tick), That indicates Touch Screen Working fine.
6) Qwerty KeyBoard Works fine. I don't know at what extent, since I can't see nothing on screen. But when I press a key on QWERTY Kbrd, it sounds Tick.
7) Transfered(Beamed) a CONTACT from my another XDA IIi & found Its accepted the beamed data.
8) Volume Up/Down make sounds (Tick, Tick...).
What I Did:
1) Removed the Battery & re-inserted & tried to BOOT it. NO result, just a WHITE SCREEN.
2) Purposely Tried to Rotate the Screen in Wrong Direction to test the loose contacts of co-axial cable.
3) Lastly Dis-Assembled the whole handset (Removed all parts 100%) & Re-Assembled it. But the Problem remains SAME.
4) Dis-Assembled again & this time I tested the LCD Co-Axial Cable's connectivity from MainBoard side connector to LCD Side Connector. There are 2 Cables which connects to LCD. One is 30 Cores Cable & Second one is 40 Cores Cable.
I Successfully tested 30 Cores Cable(Actually it used only 28cores cable, remaining 2 points at connector are DUMMY) & Second 40 Cores Cable I'm UNABLE to Test Since I lost my patience while connecting my Testing Meter to Hair Line sized cores & in just an 10mm connector got 40 cores!!!
5) Observed all cores which passes through SCREEN ROTATOR BASE Hinges & found there is NO physical Damage or CORE CUT.
CAN ANYONE HELP ME TO SOLVE THIS WHITE SCREEN PROBLEM?
IS IT A HARDWARE BASED PROBLEM? OR SOFTWARE BASED?
IS IT A PROBLEM WITH DISPLAY CHIP(IC) ON MAINBOARD?
JUST CONFUSED & SEEKING HELP FROM TECH GURUS.
THANKS IN ADVANCE.
HellCrusher.
Hi hellcrusher,
CAN ANYONE HELP ME TO SOLVE THIS WHITE SCREEN PROBLEM?
IS IT A HARDWARE BASED PROBLEM? OR SOFTWARE BASED?
IS IT A PROBLEM WITH DISPLAY CHIP(IC) ON MAINBOARD?
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This seems to be a hardware problem. Check connectors in the display housing first. This unit is quite easy to disassemble.
Before you start, you should have a look in the universal SERVICE MANUAL to check out how it gets torn apart .
If all connectors to the display are right in place, but your display still shows nothing ...open the universal body too.
Folow the steps in the manual
Regards,
scholbert
White Screen
Hello, this is my first post. May I first just say how great I think this site is, the guides on here really are useful to beginners.
With regard to the white screen, not sure if this helps, but during dismantling of my various PDAs, I managed to connect an LCD ribbon incorrectly, I kind of forced it in & folded one contact over, resulting in white screen. Disconnected, straightened & refit. Hey presto, works like a charm. Hope this helps.
I had the issue, had to buy a new flat cable
It is rare to actually see the damage to the cable, because the damage is inside the insulation....
Best regards!
On the topic...
Hello!
I have a similar issue with my Orange SPVm5000, except that mine will work for up to a minute after a hard reset before going to a white screen.
If I hard reset pressing the left+right+reset keys, the device shows the boot screen and sometimes ever goies into the initial setup but then all of a sudden it goes white. I've opened up the screen and verified and reconected all connections but still the problem persists. Also I've noticed that its not any action I make that causes it; more like a heat/timing issue. Per advice above, I will check the connections in the body but does anyone have any other ideas?!?
Thanks!
Greg.
I have a similar problem. The story;
I purchased an orange branded M5000 on flebay described as second hand in fantastic condition blaa blaa.
When the phone eventualy turned up it had no manual, the outer sleeve of the box was missing and the wrong usb cable was supplyed (one of those larger usb plugs you usualy get for printers.
I have shedlooads of cables and rely wasn't bothered about any of these problems at the time and went about charging the phone (it was totaly flat)
When fully charged I stuck my sim in and poweded her up the phone works fine in portrate and landscape view but as you rotate the screen so it is inline with the keyboard the screen fades to white about half way.
I contacted the seller who basicly told me the phone is second hand so sold as seen!?!?!?
I have flashed various roms on it to see if it was a software fault but nothing.
I think this phone had been in storage as its battery was totaly flat and incorrect accessories suggest the seller didn't check it before shipping. So I believe there is a problem with this phone that occurs when stored.
Sorry for the long post
Have you flashed any rom or just had this problem ...
my conclusions:
1. If you have flashed a new rom to your universal, try to reflash the original rom, it works for many users.
2. If you havent flashed any rom, maybe its a hardware problem.
2.1 If you just used it in a bad way, (ie: rotate screen in wrong way), dissamble it..
2.2 If you have let it on a heat, weat, etc.. place.. maybe the mainboard got a cut-circuit.
Saludos
I tryed a couple of popular WM6 roms (I forget whitch ones) and returned to the genuine Orange WM5 rom. So I doubt its a software fault.
As far was extreme conditions go the phone was well packaged when posted I will gove that to the seller SO unless the eposure happened before shipping I don't think thats to blame ether.
I think the wire in the swivle joint is failing and will continue to get worse as the joint is exercised.
Try to clear it up..
Hi there,
i made a lot experiments with the uni, so let me try to focus what's wrong:
First LVTato's Orange SPVm5000
...
If I hard reset pressing the left+right+reset keys, the device shows the boot screen and sometimes ever goies into the initial setup but then all of a sudden it goes white. I've opened up the screen and verified and reconected all connections but still the problem persists. Also I've noticed that its not any action I make that causes it; more like a heat/timing issue. Per advice above, I will check the connections in the body but does anyone have any other ideas?!?
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Sounds like the image could not be loaded completely.
The framebuffer is initialized correctly after cold boot, but afterwords booting into wince fails.
So maybe it's pure software issue (flash content is corupt -> image is broken).
Other possibility: Some region of your flash is damaged (more hardware related).
jahshappybus' Orange SPVm5000:
...
poweded her up the phone works fine in portrate and landscape view but as you rotate the screen so it is inline with the keyboard the screen fades to white about half way.
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Looks to me like a typical cable issue. Maybe someone twisted the screen the wrong way!
So this is what i guess at least.
Regards,
scholbert
White screen
99 % of these white screen faults is a typical cable issue. And you don't have to twist your screen wrong way to have this problem, also.... just twist it too often First you have to see if the device is working, apart the screen.... call the number of your phone see if it is just screen related problem. Broken display cable will leave your device oprational, you just don't see the image.
I know it is "less painfull" for people to think it is a software problem.... (The "it would not happen to me" syndrome ) but sometimes things just brake, and moving parts are most risky...
The fact you don't see the damage is of no importance due to the size and nature of the damage. Don't expect to see broken wires in the cable. And even if you check the cable by you instrument, somethimes it will show you it's ok, but in some positions it will loose contact.
Try a different cable... that way you'll be sure.
Best regards, and all the luck!
"Looks to me like a typical cable issue. Maybe someone twisted the screen the wrong way!"
I agree and luckily, finally paypal do as well.
It is being boxed up to a red faced seller as we speak.
A happy ending for me (speaking to soon?)
i hav the same problem as u "HELLCRUSHER" and i flashed also but was not able to cure
still hav this white screen ..
Found this link for some where selling the screen cable assmebly.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300254338133
Hope this is of use.

Replaced my screen, now the screen won't turn on

Hey guys, I cracked the screen on my HOX so I replaced the screen with a unit from directfix.com
After double checking all of the flex cables I tried to power the phone on and I am getting nothing from the screen and the vibration motor is constantly buzzing.
The only signs of life is the red LED, the three capacative buttons will light up, and the aforementioned constant vibrating. If i hold the power button to attempt to turn it off the buttons blink several times then it seems to stay on after that.
Has anyone heard of a problem like this before? Its killing me not having my HOX! I had to put my sim card in my old iphone 3gs and I have to say that this sucks really bad.
Are you sure you've connected everything correctly? It sounds like there's something being shorted! I'd recommend you to dissassembly again, an assembly again BUT THIS TIME VERY CAREFUL. Best is if you use a video tutorial if you think you're not experienced enough.
nitrousĀ² said:
Are you sure you've connected everything correctly? It sounds like there's something being shorted! I'd recommend you to dissassembly again, an assembly again BUT THIS TIME VERY CAREFUL. Best is if you use a video tutorial if you think you're not experienced enough.
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Thank you for the advice. I disassembled the phone and carefully put it back together. I took care to make sure the flex cables for the LCD, vibrator/button strip, antenna, volume buttons and digitizer were all carefully connected.
Now the vibrate function seems to work fine as it just gives me a short pulse when I turn the phone on as it usually does. The screen however, still refuses to turn on. I made extra sure that its flex cable was put in the right way and that it was secured with the jaw bone connector.
This video here www youtube com/watch?v=OIeO0DueMcg&feature=youtu.be at about 6:00 shows that you can test the LCD midway through the assembly process.
I tried exactly that and the LCD would still not turn on. I am just hesitant to return it because I know that the chances of the screen being a complete dud are very slim.
Now when the phone is turned on the three capacitive buttons remain on which I know didn't used to happen.
Swilli89 said:
Thank you for the advice. I disassembled the phone and carefully put it back together. I took care to make sure the flex cables for the LCD, vibrator/button strip, antenna, volume buttons and digitizer were all carefully connected.
Now the vibrate function seems to work fine as it just gives me a short pulse when I turn the phone on as it usually does. The screen however, still refuses to turn on. I made extra sure that its flex cable was put in the right way and that it was secured with the jaw bone connector.
This video here www youtube com/watch?v=OIeO0DueMcg&feature=youtu.be at about 6:00 shows that you can test the LCD midway through the assembly process.
I tried exactly that and the LCD would still not turn on. I am just hesitant to return it because I know that the chances of the screen being a complete dud are very slim.
Now when the phone is turned on the three capactive buttons remain on which I know didn't used to happen.
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Update: So I was thinking the phone was booting up all the way, but I just saw that my computer won't recognize the phone beyond making a connection sound; I just can't see it in windows. As i said the capacitive lights stay on, but if I fold the power button they blink 15 times exactly and the phone seems to power off. Should I assume the SoC is dead or gamble with a replacement LCD?
Swilli89 said:
Update: So I was thinking the phone was booting up all the way, but I just saw that my computer won't recognize the phone beyond making a connection sound; I just can't see it in windows. As i said the capacitive lights stay on, but if I fold the power button they blink 15 times exactly and the phone seems to power off. Should I assume the SoC is dead or gamble with a replacement LCD?
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Hi, I'm in the exact same situation you have described above! Did you ever manage to work it out, what was the solution? Any info or help at all would be great, thanks!!
I did replace my lcd+digitizer as well as yous. And I had same problem. But it does work now.
1.open up your phone . Take all parts off, separated.
2. Take battery off.
3.Now connect power button.
4. Connect battery.
5.Switch it on (hold pwbt for 2sec), mobo+battery+power button itself.
6.Now wait 20 sec.
7.Now connect LCD ribbon(bottom one),make sure it's right in, push it in far as you can.
8.Now put it righ on bezel and connect digitizer ribbon.
9.Press pwbt and see does it work. If does put rest of stuff together and be happy.
I can make phototutorial on request.
I did it few times. The battery was touching the LCD ribbon and it comes of very little but screen comes off and I have to start all over again.
So make sure that ribbon it's not getting any pressure from battery.
Let me know does that help.
Sent from my repaired HTC One X

[Q] Xperia play noob

HTML:
First time poster in the forum here. Basically I opened up my xperia play to replace the screen which was successful.
Unfortunately there was a spec underneath the screen bothering the hell out of me and so I took it apart again to clean it.
This time however once I put it back together it won't boot up and the only signs of life are a red flashing light.
I have tried swapping batteries and sockets. Still no change.
I hope there is a genius out there who knows the solution to me being a perfectionist.
Cheers.
You need to make sure all the connections are intact:
-the connection between the screen and the motherboard on the top right
-the small connection between the gamepad and the motherboard
-the flex (main) cable between each half of the phone, you have to press the motherboard down into the connector and hear a "click" to snap it in place
eksasol said:
You need to make sure all the connections are intact:
-the connection between the screen and the motherboard on the top right
-the small connection between the gamepad and the motherboard
-the flex (main) cable between each half of the phone, you have to press the motherboard down into the connector and hear a "click" to snap it in place
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It was the motherboard hadnt got that click this time round. Unfortunately i think i have done something to the digitizer as the screen isnt responding to touch now.
The phone is destined for the bin unless there is a way to unlock the screen without the side swipe, as i only use for emulating.
Cheers for the previous help

[Q] Please help! Strange problem with my HOX

Yesterday i dropped my device from one feet. It turned off and i turned it on.
Now lower part of screen and capacitative buttons dont work. i will attach a image(non-working area outlined in red)
My warranty has expired so i cant exchange it for a new one. What should i do? Can i fix it by myself?
Please help me
Fycola123 said:
Yesterday i dropped my device from one feet. It turned off and i turned it on.
Now lower part of screen and capacitative buttons dont work. i will attach a image(non-working area outlined in red)
My warranty has expired so i cant exchange it for a new one. What should i do? Can i fix it by myself?
Please help me
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Hi,
Only thing I can think of is that somehow it has damaged the cable from the touchscreen or the tiny wires that feed into the cable without damaging the screen. I came across a brand new screen I was replacing once for someone that had a similar problem where the bottom left hand corner wouldn't respond to touch unless there was firm pressure on the screen to create contact, and this was a brand new screen. It could also be that the touchscreen connector needs to be pushed back onto the board if it's come a bit loose.
If this is the problem, you can fix it by yourself although I'd have a good look around youtube, there are heaps of DIY videos of how to replace screens. If you do go down this path I recommend you replace the touchscreen/LCD/LCD frame in one go, as it's generally already pre- assembled the only thing here is that there are 3 brands of LCD's HTC used with the phone and they aren't all compatible, and you can only tell by pulling down your phone and looking at the LCD flex cable colours, and the other thing is that the screens that are available aren't always the same quality as the original. If this sounds to hard your best bet is to take it somewhere and diagnose the problem just in case it's something else

N7 screen went black

Yes, like it turned itself off but it did not go off as I was still getting audible email notifications. Tried everything speaking with Google support and then even Asus support who told me to go to their website and fill in an RMA form. This unit is 13 months old-out of warranty. There is nothing on the form relevant to the nexus to fill in so you cannot continue with it. So I am stuck right now and do not know what to do if anything. Any help would be appreciated.
claypoole said:
Yes, like it turned itself off but it did not go off as I was still getting audible email notifications. Tried everything speaking with Google support and then even Asus support who told me to go to their website and fill in an RMA form. This unit is 13 months old-out of warranty. There is nothing on the form relevant to the nexus to fill in so you cannot continue with it. So I am stuck right now and do not know what to do if anything. Any help would be appreciated.
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Normally, 3 things can go wrong:
1. The cable is not connected properly. This could be caused by any impact. You take off the back cover and reseat it. It's the amber cable that runs the length of the battery. Be sure to check both ends. The one on the motherboard's end is in plain sight. The other end is hidden beneath the daughter board at the bottom of the tab, so you need to remove it to inspect the connection.
2. The backlight which illuminates the display went out. You can check this by turning the tab on and taking the tab to a dark room and shine a flashlight on the screen. If you can see the icons or the boot page, the back light is bad. The bad news is that you'd have to remove the lcd/touchscreen unit to replace the backlight. 10 times out of 10, when you do this on an original tab, you will break the touchscreen. Since it's glued to the lcd with LOCA (liquid optically clear adhesive), you will have to separate them, fix the backlight, buy a new touchscreen, then reassemble the whole thing. Most people would find it simpler to just buy a new lcd/touchscreen combo. If you're game though, I can give you an lcd back with a working backlight strip.
3. The video circuit on the motherboard went belly up. To test this, you need a micro usb to HDMI adapter like the one here , and a newer lcd TV. If nothing shows on your TV, the GPU is probably dead, in which case the only practical solution is to replace the motherboard since it's impossible to replace the GPU at home.
Good luck.
graphdarnell said:
Normally, 3 things can go wrong:
1. The cable is not connected properly. This could be caused by any impact. You take off the back cover and reseat it. It's the amber cable that runs the length of the battery. Be sure to check both ends. The one on the motherboard's end is in plain sight. The other end is hidden beneath the daughter board at the bottom of the tab, so you need to remove it to inspect the connection.
2. The backlight which illuminates the display went out. You can check this by turning the tab on and taking the tab to a dark room and shine a flashlight on the screen. If you can see the icons or the boot page, the back light is bad. The bad news is that you'd have to remove the lcd/touchscreen unit to replace the backlight. 10 times out of 10, when you do this on an original tab, you will break the touchscreen. Since it's glued to the lcd with LOCA (liquid optically clear adhesive), you will have to separate them, fix the backlight, buy a new touchscreen, then reassemble the whole thing. Most people would find it simpler to just buy a new lcd/touchscreen combo. If you're game though, I can give you an lcd back with a working backlight strip.
3. The video circuit on the motherboard went belly up. To test this, you need a micro usb to HDMI adapter like the one here , and a newer lcd TV. If nothing shows on your TV, the GPU is probably dead, in which case the only practical solution is to replace the motherboard since it's impossible to replace the GPU at home.
Good luck.
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Did anyone else read this response and want to hit the edit button, and then type in huge letters "Time to buy a new Nexus!"
Thank you for your detailed reply. I checked the cable from the MB at both ends. Seems OK on the connections. I am unable to turn on the tab to check the backlight. That's about as far as I can go with it at this point. I am thinking that this tab is toast and to make matters worse, the abominably bad Asus customer service. I am considering replacing this with a Samsung and be done with it.
claypoole said:
Thank you for your detailed reply. I checked the cable from the MB at both ends. Seems OK on the connections. I am unable to turn on the tab to check the backlight. That's about as far as I can go with it at this point. I am thinking that this tab is toast and to make matters worse, the abominably bad Asus customer service. I am considering replacing this with a Samsung and be done with it.
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Hey, don't lose hope! Samsung is not any better specs or quality-wise (especially the display). If you're gonna butcher the thing anyway, might as well find out. I was gonna suggest to lend you a used lcd for you to test, but I realize people for some reason are extremely wary of gratuitous offers so I won't. But if you value it, try to get a screen with a good lcd but broken digitizer on Ebay. They wouldn't cost more than 15 bucks. Once you can determine it's not the motherboard, we can go from there. I can guide you on the replacement part if you want. I'm just a hobbyist, but I have messed around with this thing enough to tell.
Graph, you are kind to offer. I also have noticed that the glass has a few cracks in it as well. At this point, I can't turn it on. It seems like when I punch the on button in there is extremely little movement if at all. So I don't know if it is still on which I don't this it is or it shut itself off. When it was black screen and on, I was getting my email notifications audibly but since yesterday-none. I am not looking to spend big bucks on these things as essentially all I do mostly is use for reading. I do want to stick with android if I replace this. I know samsung does not have as good resolution but seems to get good reviews from users.

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