[LOOKING FOR] App for p2p (file sharing) via GPRS w/o internet...any help? - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello fellows...
I'm just looking for an app to send files (something like p2p) between TWO android devices using a restricted GPRS service, I mean, no internet access....
I mean, send file to one IP to another one....
Just for send files, text, chat...or something like that....
any idea?
thanks in advance
BR,
chatfan

Can anyone help me out? any help / idea?

First of all, what you want is hard to implement.
Second thing is, why u want to invent the fire new?
I keep it short, it would be too hard to route it throug gprs. (you can read the wiki about mms to get a short overview)
so why not use a internet service?
Simplest thing would be the skype app, it is encrypted so not that unsecure.
If you want more securety, check https://guardianproject.info/apps/gibber/
and for filetransfer i would suggest wuala (groups)
or maybe you just use sftp(ftp over ssh)
cya

Let me explaining you and make it very simple.
Where I live there is not an ACTIVE Internet Service, I mean, no internet service in any of the subscribers in the UNIQUE and ONLY ONE carrier of Cell Phone in the entire country...can you get my point now?
Forget 3G, 4G and LTE, just GPRS and no service of data plan to anyone...
that is why I need this app.
thanks
crendot said:
First of all, what you want is hard to implement.
Second thing is, why u want to invent the fire new?
I keep it short, it would be too hard to route it throug gprs. (you can read the wiki about mms to get a short overview)
so why not use a internet service?
Simplest thing would be the skype app, it is encrypted so not that unsecure.
If you want more securety, check https://guardianproject.info/apps/gibber/
and for filetransfer i would suggest wuala (groups)
or maybe you just use sftp(ftp over ssh)
cya
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than let me ask u a simpe question first.
can u send a mms?
and who far is the other device away from you? 10Km, 20km? 100km?
need little background information
ps.: or is wap working?
pps.: and how big would be the size of the data?
pps.: you've seen you IP? or do u assume that u get one?

here
Yes, I can send MMS perfectly
Very away about 50 or 60 Km, same carrier
crendot said:
than let me ask u a simpe question first.
can u send a mms?
and who far is the other device away from you? 10Km, 20km? 100km?
need little background information
ps.: or is wap working?
pps.: and how big would be the size of the data?
pps.: you've seen you IP? or do u assume that u get one?
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so i checked it
there are many things wich can work but i dont think they will work.
First, you need to know your and the other persons ip.
First Problem will be they change, gprs is not static
Than you have to hope that you can connect with a build in protokoll.
There will be the second problem, you have to hope that tcp/ip works.
Without a server that handles the communication between you and the otherone its unlikely that this will work.
Thats the reason mms uses wap to get the communication to work.
Without internet access its a mess to handle that all.
[FUN ON]
there it would be simplier to use oldschool stuff like Acoustic Coupler and this
so you can get a terminal working over telephone but it would be damn slow ^^
[FUN OFF]
Mfg Alex

Yes, I am able to know the IP from another person and you are right, the IP is not static, changes in some time for a random IP..any idea how do this?
maybe you can help me out...
please help me!!
crendot said:
so i checked it
there are many things wich can work but i dont think they will work.
First, you need to know your and the other persons ip.
First Problem will be they change, gprs is not static
Than you have to hope that you can connect with a build in protokoll.
There will be the second problem, you have to hope that tcp/ip works.
Without a server that handles the communication between you and the otherone its unlikely that this will work.
Thats the reason mms uses wap to get the communication to work.
Without internet access its a mess to handle that all.
[FUN ON]
there it would be simplier to use oldschool stuff like Acoustic Coupler and this
so you can get a terminal working over telephone but it would be damn slow ^^
[FUN OFF]
Mfg Alex
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i would say you post you question in the Android Q&A
best i can do for you, sorry

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Turn off GPRS

Anyone know how to turn the GPRS off so that it never comes on?
What you need is this ......... creates an icon called No Data, with it you can toggle on and off your GPRS, I've been using for a while and it is excellent, stops GPRS connections altogether until you want it...
Activesync it somewhere on your orbit and then click on it within File Explorer
Ah! Stew! Saviour! A million thanks... exactly what I was looking for...
Why?
Hi
Why turn GPS totally off? does it use more battery when your not using it?
MicTh
Hi there MicTh...
I'm with O2 and their data tarrifs are somewhat expensive.
I use wifi a lot so don't need GPRS. There has been the odd occasion where I've lost wifi signal and the phone started connecting with GPRS...
The above program put a stop to this!
SG
Ohhh.. stupid me :O)
I thought u were talkin about turning GPS off.... My bad
thanks i have also been looking for app like this
someguysomewhere said:
Anyone know how to turn the GPRS off so that it never comes on?
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This can be done easily by:
Settings->Connections->Connections->Advanced->Select Networks->(in the first ComboBox) select "My Work Network" and click OK
No GPRS does it much simpler, simply toggling between on and off....GPRS can sometimes connect on demand, the phones demand not yours when receiving messages or when Quick GOS has become outdated, NO GPRS is the simplest solution I've found.......
Thanks - I've installed this - one question
I have disabled Mobile Web and O2 Active
Will I still receive MMS messages ???
Hays
hays said:
Thanks - I've installed this - one question
I have disabled Mobile Web and O2 Active
Will I still receive MMS messages ???
Hays
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No, MMS is sent and received over O2 Active which is WAP.
where do i copy files to
im new to orbit could you tell me where i place the files please
Copy it to you memory card and run the program. It will install itself.
thanks
thanks for your help ive got it sorted
now ive installed it and i click on the nodata icon it shows gprs as deactivated but if im usin wifii it says connecting to gprs is that normal or have i done something wrong.
also if it says connecting to gprs while nodata is installed does it still run up the bill,orbit is all new to me so im still trying to find my way around it im used to normal phone.
Hi,
just a question on this wifi-gprs. Is there a way to include a priority on one of the two?
I would like my phone to connect through wifi is it finds free or known connections, otherwise it should use wifi.
Anybody know of a setting to get this done?
Patrick
I have a Hermes and I can stop my GPRS connection instantly.
Please try this (also on other HTC models)...
When you still have a GPRS connection press and hold down the hangup button for 3 to 6 secs. (the red phone you use the end a phonecall) until the little GPRS icon disappears.
GPRS as a service will stay available.
Hi.
I'm sorry but I am having a noobie moment.
I have transferred the 3 NOGPRS files into My Music (cos I couldn't think of anywhere else to put it) and clicked on the "setup" file which opens revealing lines of code. But that's it, how do I install it? Where do I find the icon?
Sorry, this might seem basic to you but it is very complicated and difficult to understand for me.
Garneth said:
Hi.
I'm sorry but I am having a noobie moment.
I have transferred the 3 NOGPRS files into My Music (cos I couldn't think of anywhere else to put it) and clicked on the "setup" file which opens revealing lines of code. But that's it, how do I install it? Where do I find the icon?
Sorry, this might seem basic to you but it is very complicated and difficult to understand for me.
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u went one step too far.
just extract the NOGPRS.cab to your device,
then take your device and click on the .cab file!
Icefeldt said:
u went one step too far.
just extract the NOGPRS.cab to your device,
then take your device and click on the .cab file!
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You Sir, are a star! Thank you. Installed and running. <beer>

FIDO GPRS SETTINGS HELP FOR IM portal

Before you go on to post "read the wiki" ,"search the thread noob" etcetc
Ive done that and i found no help for it other than some settings, which i already tried(didnt work) and ive gotten more settings from the fido csr
and ive plugged those in but still no.(tested gprs/edge by starting pocket IE)
no connection.
I've gotten the value pack for fido which includes the Instant messaging portal for msn and yahoo where i can chat and message and check email unlimited... now the only problem is i cant connect to gprs/edge to use it.
question 1. how do i get the dam settings to work?
question 2. am i able to use the messenger included in the rom? or do i need to use the one specifically for fido?
question 3. once the previous 2 are answered..... Am I able to make it where only the associated program uses gprs/edge for data..so that way if i use pocket ie on wifi i can still use watever im using with gprs?
ie: surf the net on wifi, while im chatting msn on gprs?
thats all i got for now,
I'm using a softbank x01ht with black majik rom.
Thanks for any help i receive.
When I first got a windows phone I was so determined to get it set for Fido's services. With my Universal it took me days to figure out what the settings were. I thought I knew everything after that. Turns out that there are a bunch of other factors such as MMS won't work until you've exchanged msg's with another FIDO customer. Also internet doesnt work without a proper plan first, it doesnt work like it used to , which was PAYG. Lastly the settings don't kick in until you reset the phone, and even then I have heard stories from some where it took upto half hour for some settings to kick in. I find it so complicated now that I seem to know where all the free wi-fi hotspots are around my area.
I hope this doesn't discourage you from figuring out ur settings through trial&error.
I encounter none of what you said. I dont use MMS so I am not familiar with ..all others is no big deal.
It takes me 30 seconds for set up and I am ready to go.
ps: I am on a unlimited for years.....
Well I guess it mustve been different with the Universal and your Hermes.
thanks for the feedback still havent figured it out as of yet though i do know theres supposed to be a dial out to *90# or something like that cant check the txt i received from fido right now.
anyways i hope to get it up soon, im gonna try to port over the IM program thats in my friends rogers tytn and see if i can change the settings on that thing for fido.
wish me luck
They toys bahave different
neptune said:
Well I guess it mustve been different with the Universal and your Hermes.
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You bet money on it. I have an 8125 and also an 8525, both have exactly the same UI to set the connections up, however with exactly the same settings I´m able to surf the WEB, get GMail, all MSN Live services,etc only with my Wizard because with the Hermes I´m able to open just a very few wap sites. I´ve had this problem since day one with my Hermes and looking for a solution in this site and in many others I´ve found that I´m not the only lucky person with a $400 toy that performs worst than the cheapest Nokia, there´s a lot of people with same problem and nobody knows why this happens. (See my signature)
For those who've got it working, could you please share HOW? It would be much appreciated.

wmIRC

I've downloaded and installed the trial for wmIRC and it's working fine over WIFI on my HTC S621, but I can't get it to work over GPRS\EDGE ? I can use IE and Opera Mini without the WIFI.
Any ideas of what I can try, or are there other Windows Mobile Smartphone Standard IRC clients I could try?
Thank you,
Tim
tmcdoniel said:
I've downloaded and installed the trial for wmIRC and it's working fine over WIFI on my HTC S621, but I can't get it to work over GPRS\EDGE ? I can use IE and Opera Mini without the WIFI.
Any ideas of what I can try, or are there other Windows Mobile Smartphone Standard IRC clients I could try?
Thank you,
Tim
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make sure you start an edge connection before trying to log onto irc. i use wmirc daily and works through either connection. just open a browser and go to a website to initiate the data connection (for some reason wmirc will initiate *sometimes* and not others) then open irc and just hit connect. may take a sec to go through the ident and ****...but it gets there...
gixxum said:
make sure you start an edge connection before trying to log onto irc. i use wmirc daily and works through either connection. just open a browser and go to a website to initiate the data connection (for some reason wmirc will initiate *sometimes* and not others) then open irc and just hit connect. may take a sec to go through the ident and ****...but it gets there...
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I've tried that, no luck. I don't have the ident option checked, but I never need it for WIFI. I'm just wondering if it's my carrier, Suncom blocking it. It's just strange to me that my email, IE, mini-opera, etc. works. But not this.
I'm looking now to see if I can find a way to link (or echo) messages over to an instant messenger ID. Because I know that I can get Palringo or some other IM client to work.
Thank you,
Tim
tmcdoniel said:
I've tried that, no luck. I don't have the ident option checked, but I never need it for WIFI. I'm just wondering if it's my carrier, Suncom blocking it. It's just strange to me that my email, IE, mini-opera, etc. works. But not this.
I'm looking now to see if I can find a way to link (or echo) messages over to an instant messenger ID. Because I know that I can get Palringo or some other IM client to work.
Thank you,
Tim
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I wasnt so much talking about enabling indent..i was just talking about when you connect to the server and i queries the client..
what version of wmirc is it?
This probably doesn't help much but I have it working fine on another device over CDMA.
Honestly, prepare to be disappointed though. Its a very buggy program. The user lists tend to disappear, sometimes a new pm opens and switching from one to the next shows the same messages, and it randomly completely crashes.
There's also zsIRC at zsirc.com. However, this is many written for WM Pro, so there's a lot of things that you can't do if you don't have a touchscreen (also, you can't install the .cab on WM Standard and need to use the .exe installer.)
i agree. but for smartphone its really the only one that works. ive tried 3. wmirc, jirc and some other one that i cant remember.
as far as just chattin in a channel, its fine. ive had it up with no disconnects on the edge network for 8 hours. with wifi i have left on for days and it never crashed or disconnected. yea the user list is a little retarded, but thats a non issue for me. you can still use basic commands like /whois . i dont think its ever going to get better than this though. as far as i know, no one else is developing a new client.
so i guess just pick the lesser poison..if you want to run it through java (which i couldnt stand) try out jirc.
shoot me a pm and let me know what version you have. i will probably just give you a link to my site and you can try the one i have because i know it works. im running 6.1 rickys v. 24
I'm just using the standard 2.2 from the wmirc.com site.

Disable GPRS?

I just wanted to watch some youtube with my home wifi, and then it works.. A week later i get a bill from att saying that i used a lot of data, the bill was like $300 because of youtube.
Is there any way to disable GPRS completly? I am Majorly Thankful​
You can try to delete the connection settings
Start>settings>connections>>connections>manage existing connections>hold down on the connection and hit delete.
But that means no data capabilities at all via gsm/3g
Thanks boog​
Your welcome!
But, no offense, when everything is centered, it is very odd to read.
it makes you have to concentrate on reading the post.
Or at least it's that way for me.
feels odd
Leads to the possibility of having to jump back and forth.
Instead of our normal language layout ​
Just saying, because I have noticed it in all your posts.
Alright, ill start doing that.. I just find it cool to do it. But thanks in advance for the advise.
I hesitated on posting it, afraid you would take it wrong. Glad you didn't!
Why whould you think that i would take it the wrong way? lol
It's easy to take things the wrong way on the net lol
I see what you mean. Illl defenitly keep you in mind.
And if you don't want to remove your settings completely, try "nodata" app.
utak3r said:
And if you don't want to remove your settings completely, try "nodata" app.
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Whops, too late. Lol
Wow, I didn't know about the nodata app.
Having unlimited data, I never felt the need.
Error when trying to run nodata
I get an error when trying to run this program on WM6.5. Is there another easy alternative? I don't have a data plan and don't want GPRS turning on without my knowledge.
equinecpa said:
I get an error when trying to run this program on WM6.5. Is there another easy alternative? I don't have a data plan and don't want GPRS turning on without my knowledge.
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You could try Advanced Configuration Tool 2.0 or higher to enable/disable your connection settings. Menu/Connection Settings...then click over the connections name to change states. I think is a more flexible solution than NoData since you can disable only internet and let other services/connections enabled.
ACT in this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317070
HTC Tytn
SuperCID
SPL: 2.10.Olipro (HardSPL v7)
ROM: Shamanix WM6 Ultimate v2 Final
RADIO: 1.48.00.10
equinecpa said:
I get an error when trying to run this program on WM6.5. Is there another easy alternative? I don't have a data plan and don't want GPRS turning on without my knowledge.
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delete your gprs/3g connection setting
go download htc connection manager run it once set it up and run nodata again
should work
Ah...thanks for the above. The solution was I didn't have a GPRS connection setup...(I'd just updated ROM's) and therefore nodata wasn't finding a connection to disable! I setup the connection and it worked just fine.
Thanks for the other posts too..I'll try both methods see which works best for me.

[Q] How to bypass Vodafone Romania block of Viber application?

Hello.
I'm from Romania and i'm a subscriber of Vodafone Romania.
Viber works fine on my phone on every wifi I connected to, but when I activate the Mobile Internet it says that it is "currently unavailable and/or blocked". It seems that VIBER is blocked by Vodafone Romania and the only way I can use it with their Mobile Internet Service is to pay a tax of 3.13 Euros (3.8 dollars). In my opinion the fee for this service is abuzive and restrains the rights of its users.
From what I know Viber uses certain ports so it can make those VOIP calls and those are blocked by Vodafone.
My question is simple and I hope that some users from Romania and from other countries that are on Vodafone and have their Viber blocked can help with some tips and tricks on how to bypass the block.
Please refrain from answering to the question above with answers like "Change your carrier", "Use other VOIP apps instead", etc.
Let's hope we can find a way to deal with this problem,
Thank you.
SSH tunnel
My carrier also blocks VOIP like Skype & others, and the only real way I've found to get around this is to tunnel the traffic through a VPN or an SSH tunnel.
Personally I'm using the SSHTunnel app to do this. Basically you set it up to connect to a server where you have a shell account. The app then allows you to select the apps you want to tunnel their traffic.
Of course the SSH daemon on the server needs to allow forwarding of traffic and you need a good connection on both your phone & on the server end for this to work properly without call quality degradation.
Thanks for the reply, Gunthy` but unfortunately I don't own a server and I think it would cost more to buy one then to pay for the fee that Vodafone charges.
Vladuu said:
Thanks for the reply, Gunthy` but unfortunately I don't own a server and I think it would cost more to buy one then to pay for the fee that Vodafone charges.
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Yeah you're right there, although a good VPS doesn't have to cost a lot more than that. Also you can do more than just tunneling with something like that of course, so you get more value for your money.
If you have a good internet connection at home you could also use your own PC to set up the tunnel, you don't need to invest in renting a machine. Mind telling me what provider & plan you're on for your home connection? I'm quite familiar with Romanian providers so I could tell you if your current plan will allow that. Basically it mostly will depend on your upload speed. Naturally your PC needs to be up to the task as well...
Well i have dual-care 2Ghz Windows 7 laptop at home and a 11MB/s download and 1MB/s upload connection from RDS.
Do you know how could i configure my computer tu use it as you said?
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Vladuu said:
Well i have dual-care 2Ghz Windows 7 laptop at home and a 11MB/s download and 1MB/s upload connection from RDS.
Do you know how could i configure my computer tu use it as you said?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda app-developers app
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Both your PC & your connection seem largely sufficient to do this. How exactly to set it up on Windows is something I'm not sure about (always done this with Linux ), but there is a an OpenSSH build for Windows, so you should be able to use that. Make sure you turn on port forwarding in the settings of the daemon, and forward the incoming SSH port on your router. SSH defaults to 22, but RDS might block that, so up it to something above port 1024 and it should work. Check out this guide, it seems pretty complete on first glance .
Thanks for the useful info. I think it's a good ideea to use your personal computer in order to bypass the block. I will try this tomorrow and report back here on how it goes.
In the meantime, if someone else has some other tips please post them here.
Viber
Hi,
This is a member of the Viber R&D Team!
We have received various similar complaints from Viber users in your area of the world, and we have investigated this issue. It seems that the outgoing access to Viber and VoIP applications may have been blocked by your specific service provider [generally, this block is only on basic package plans].
Please check with your carrier, Viber will not be able to bypass your carrier's network blockage. It is in your carrier’s or country's decision which applications they wish to allow or block network connections to.
If you have any question about Viber - please feel free to ask.
Viber Team
Viber Team said:
Hi,
This is a member of the Viber R&D Team!
We have received various similar complaints from Viber users in your area of the world, and we have investigated this issue. It seems that the outgoing access to Viber and VoIP applications may have been blocked by your specific service provider [generally, this block is only on basic package plans].
Please check with your carrier, Viber will not be able to bypass your carrier's network blockage. It is in your carrier’s or country's decision which applications they wish to allow or block network connections to.
If you have any question about Viber - please feel free to ask.
Viber Team
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Thank you for the answer and sorry for the very late answer.
Unfortunately the carrier (Vodafone) still doesn't want to open the ports for Viber, so I decided to ask for help from our national Consumer Protection Agency, because when I signed the contract with Vodafone they didn't tell me that the internet option I choosed doesn't offer me full access to the internet because some ports are blocked and I will need to pay extra if I would want to use them.
I wil update this thread when i have some moar news.
Oh, and if anybody has other ideas on how to bypass blocks like this please post them here.
Thank you.
@Vladuu -
It is our pleasure to be here and assist.
We'll be waiting for news from you, and we hope those will be good news
How about using Tor, if a shell account is not available, nor a private ssh server?
Thanks for the ideea of using tor, I just downloaded it onto my phone and I'll give an update if I succeed or not.
Sent from my AOKP'd SGN
Vladuu said:
Thanks for the ideea of using tor, I just downloaded it onto my phone and I'll give an update if I succeed or not.
Sent from my AOKP'd SGN
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well? does it work? Vodafone Spain here, same issue...
Hi,
As far as we know, Vodafone Spain still blocks VoIP services (including Viber) on its 'simple' data plan (for users who haven't purchased VoIP access).
We assume this can be confirmed with the company itself, by contacting their customer support or checking out their mobile data plans online.
Vladuu said:
Thank you for the answer and sorry for the very late answer.
Unfortunately the carrier (Vodafone) still doesn't want to open the ports for Viber, so I decided to ask for help from our national Consumer Protection Agency, because when I signed the contract with Vodafone they didn't tell me that the internet option I choosed doesn't offer me full access to the internet because some ports are blocked and I will need to pay extra if I would want to use them.
I wil update this thread when i have some moar news.
Oh, and if anybody has other ideas on how to bypass blocks like this please post them here.
Thank you.
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Vladuu, did you ever find an answer to this? It seems it's an intermittent block for me. Sometimes it works, sometimes no.
I droped my Vodafone contract because they were the first company to implement a voip net blockage in germany.
I can only recommend to do this. Bypassing a blockage might be against your contract, which means you're asking for ways to break your contract / the law....
I'm now using O2 / Germany. They've posted on twitter that they won't block voip, ever. You are able to vote with your money, do it!
I know it's months after the previous replies, but I also faced this problem (for Skype) and fixed it.
The solution is using a VPN, but you don't necessarily need one at home. I use OpenVPN Connect from Play Store and vpnbook.com.
Install OpenVPN, install the certificates from vpnbook.com (server1 & server2, I just just UDP, 25000), then anytime you need to use SKype, follow these steps:
1. Open you browser of choice, go to vpnbook.com, the OpenVPN tab, get the current password (they change once per day)
1a. Close the browser from the recent tasks window, or (in case you use FF) you will not be able to browse using it after you start the VPN Connection
2. OpenVPN Connect, enter the password you found in step 1. Click Connect, check "I trust this ... <>" and OK.
3. Start Skype/Viber/whatever.
Thank you and sorry for the bump.

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