Getting my phone tomorrow.. What tips or tricks do you all recommend..?? - T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989

Finally get off Sprints lies of 4G.. I was there from the beginning when they promised me Wimax would be everywhere..
Realizing the HSPA with T-mobile is definitely different then at&t's HSPA.. Its very fast in my area..
So I'm doing it!!!
I plan to root it first thing.. Then put on the newest Juggernaut Rom..
It seems very stable from what many are saying..
I assume there are themes and such for this Rom as well?
Any other tips or tricks you guys can recommend that would be great..

Noo try Macnut... support for juggs is pretty much dead...
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iloveandroid16 said:
Noo try Macnut... support for juggs is pretty much dead...
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Powered by the SGSII....

Ive been using touchless and its been quite good with the darkside kernel...

Congrats on the phone. I'm still running juggernaut 3.7. I haven't really felt the need to try another Rom. I have looked at the macnut. It seems like it's still jugs with little changes.

Same here man, I left Sprint after being a customer since 2006...
I was pleasantly shocked at my coverage with T-Mobile and the HSPA+ speeds here, everything is so much better than Sprint. Congrats on the move, I got out because of a material change in the contract.
I recommend reading up on the rooting guides as well as watching this vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfA1KKzXkFU. This video is pretty much is fool-proof and if you're a veteran to rooting, then this phone is EZ PZ.

Wow.. thanks all.. Thanks for the heads up on the rom..
This Macnut rom.. It's super stable? Sense rom I assume?

First of all..
First of all, you must root and install a custom ROM if possible. Definitely makes the experience more enjoyable

fastfed said:
Wow.. thanks all.. Thanks for the heads up on the rom..
This Macnut rom.. It's super stable? Sense rom I assume?
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The most up to date roms in our forum are macnut and darkside.
Also, they use touchwiz... Sense is for htc phones.
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The most up to date roms in our forum are macnut and darkside.
Also, they use touchwiz... Sense is for htc phones.
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heheh.. ok... Touchwiz it is..
I'm gonna put Macnut as it seems the most popular..
Anything else?
Whats some other goodies I should know about?
Camera tricks?
themes I assume are all included in the rom topic post ?

if you want something that will have everything working, even have apps work that sometimes somehow it doesnt in other roms. Just root and stock and if you want something that doesnt update a lot, root and stock.

Yeah I was reading that some custom roms use up a lot of battery when using Bluetooth. So I have been reading a great deal before I actually do anything. I can deal with the bloatware for now till I get a good grasp of everything.
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stock and root, then remove bloatwares.. thats all you need. all custom rom add is the 14 toggle statusbar, maybe custom kernel... to support BLN or however ( top of of my head ) seen it around but doesnt phase me... other than that, its just themes.. everything is based on 2.3.6 + themes, especially eugenes rom, it seems nothing but theme and LG hack... same ol same.... and people gave him money for a " theme ROM" from him.. wow... give me 350, we will have AOSP them.. with tweaks...

Wife got her SGS2 yesterday and I rooted it with Juggernaut. As a rom, it was fairly disappointing at first as it looked nearly exactly stock, but it did have some good UI tweaks built in as well as an app to toggle bloat on and off. Using titanium to get rid of some of the extra bloat, and launcher pro to ditch TouchWiz UI it's running pretty smooth.
Today is the first day of real use and I have high hopes for it.
Try a few roms, You'll spend more time waiting for them to download than to install and configure with all the upload sites now, but at least you can get a feel for what's out there.
Then just bookmark and stalk the forums for a AOSP ICS build.

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stock and root, then remove bloatwares.. thats all you need. all custom rom add is the 14 toggle statusbar, maybe custom kernel... to support BLN or however ( top of of my head ) seen it around but doesnt phase me... other than that, its just themes.. everything is based on 2.3.6 + themes, especially eugenes rom, it seems nothing but theme and LG hack... same ol same.... and people gave him money for a " theme ROM" from him.. wow... give me 350, we will have AOSP them.. with tweaks...
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The modded versions of 2.3.6 are much better than stock. try macnut or darkside warfare. those are currently the most up to date roms available for our phone.
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I tried darkside's ROM; and honestly I don't like touchwiz and I wasn't impressed by the rom because it still had samsung and T-mobile crap on it. Don't get me wrong its a great job with the kernel and I can tell that a lot of hard work went into it, but I'm not looking for just no bloat and system customization. I guess I'm spoiled coming from latest support and development for Cyanogenmod on my Nexus phones, but I loaded the abandoned CM7 mod and Da_G's kernel for the Skyrocket S2 as some other people have used. Some issues...but its expected since it was abandoned in its alpha stage. I'll just be patiently waiting until CM9 rolls around .

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I tried darkside's ROM; and honestly I don't like touchwiz and I wasn't impressed by the rom because it still had samsung and T-mobile crap on it. Don't get me wrong its a great job with the kernel and I can tell that a lot of hard work went into it, but I'm not looking for just no bloat and system customization. I guess I'm spoiled coming from latest support and development for Cyanogenmod on my Nexus phones, but I loaded the abandoned CM7 mod and Da_G's kernel for the Skyrocket S2 as some other people have used. Some issues...but its expected since it was abandoned in its alpha stage. I'll just be patiently waiting until CM9 rolls around .
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Who said CM9 is coming to this phone?
I got the phone today.. And all I can say is WOW!!
It's unreal!!
Whats touchwiz exactly ??
I rooted the phone first thing, but as of now, I'm not putting a rom into it.. I will just play with it as it is now..
I hate the fact though I cannot change the drawer task bar... The bottom buttons...
I don't use the stock messaging program (I use handcet) and I cannot remove it..
Sucks..
as for the speed..
Holy ****!!!
I cannot believe this glorified 3g system is this fast.. I guess it doesn't matter LTE, Wimax or what.. I'm getting download speeds of 20 down and 3-4 up..
Average.. lowest I've seen 5 down so far.
This thing is awesome!!

Touchwiz is the launcher. If you want to change your drawer apps go to your apps menu and hit the menu button them edit. Then just drag whatever you want to change in your dock.
And not to bust your bubbles, have you checked your display on low brightness in a dark room and noticed the blobs and vertical lines on your phone.? I'm pretty sure you'll begin to notice it very soon. Thought id give you a heads up. This is am overall bad ass phone except for that flaw.
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zander21510 said:
I tried darkside's ROM; and honestly I don't like touchwiz and I wasn't impressed by the rom because it still had samsung and T-mobile crap on it. Don't get me wrong its a great job with the kernel and I can tell that a lot of hard work went into it, but I'm not looking for just no bloat and system customization. I guess I'm spoiled coming from latest support and development for Cyanogenmod on my Nexus phones, but I loaded the abandoned CM7 mod and Da_G's kernel for the Skyrocket S2 as some other people have used. Some issues...but its expected since it was abandoned in its alpha stage. I'll just be patiently waiting until CM9 rolls around .
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You know you can just add the flag -notw to the Darkside file name and that will get rid of TouchWiz and most of the T-mobile/Samsung apps right? I'm guessing you didn't read the "flags" area in the first post of the DARKSIDE DIGITAL WARFARE thread.

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Touchwiz is the launcher. If you want to change your drawer apps go to your apps menu and hit the menu button them edit. Then just drag whatever you want to change in your dock.
And not to bust your bubbles, have you checked your display on low brightness in a dark room and noticed the blobs and vertical lines on your phone.? I'm pretty sure you'll begin to notice it very soon. Thought id give you a heads up. This is am overall bad ass phone except for that flaw.
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Went with my dad to get these phones today..
I went through about 3 of them, before I found two that had ZERO lines or issues..
I checked the best I could.. Went into the back room, which was dark and opened a bunch of dark pictures from the web..
I saw some lines on 3 of them.. before I found the next two that didn't look like they had them..
so if it does have them, its so minor, you will never be able to tell..
At least not enough that I have to TRY and see them..

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[Q] Which is the best ROM to install? why?

I just got my s2x and looked at the rom section and they all seem good but cant tell which one is the best.
Looked at beastmode, bomba and juggar. Which one do you guys think is the best?
Only one way to find is try them all out for yourself. Me personally, I use juggernaut and love it. But that's just me haha. It won't hurt try em out.
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I've been trying them all for the past week. I think Bombaridier V.2.0 is the one to keep: very fast and has amazing data speeds. Still trying out the battery life.
I doesn't have Google Talk Video cooked in though.
Ive been using stock (bought the phone last thursday) and its been amazing. Especially after disabling TW and most of the tmobile bs, this phone has been flying.
And my battery life has been phenomenal. unplugged yesterday, at like 6:00am when i got up for work, and went on all day until 11pm at night and still had 15% left.
That sounds like mine! I love the battery life on this thing
Completely stock - not rooted yet - 1d15h battery life every day, and I charge at 10%. Moderate use through the day.
I switch ROMs daily, I still haven't found my daily driver. I have been most happy with Bombaridier because of the speeds. I'm back to Juggernaut now to test out the 1.6 release. Definitely invest in something like Titanium backup if you're going to be switching ROMs a lot, it'll save you a ton of headaches.
Try Hyperdroid with one of the sergions.Batterylife rocks!
Im using pongsters transparent sergion atm.
Uplugged the phone this morning at 7:00am receiving exchange email via push the whole day.
Listening to music for an hour.
Some calls,whatsapp,facebook etc and now at 00:30 at 58%
Moved arround allot too like cm7,darky rom,villain but this one seems to be stable and battery life is good.
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um that rom aint gunna work for our phones buddy.
Im rockin beastmod and lovin.
So more of the story is I think they are all solid.
Bombardier is the fastest
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I'm using Juggernaut 2.5 with ICS theme. Very nice. Haven't tried the others cuz I've been happy with Juggernaut
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Honestly all the roms we have are all good. It comes down to personal preferences.
I like how BeastMod is themed so that's what I rock.
#Havingablast w/ my SGS2
Glad I saw this thread. I'm new to messing around with Android, but I'm always eager to read and learn. Right now, I'm using a stock debloated ROM and just playing with themes. The stock ROM had been perfectly suitable for me and I'm not left wanting...but I do get curious about the other ROMs.
I understand that its a matter of personal preference and the only way to know which is "best"for a person is to try them out.
However, could you educate a beginner on what sort of practical differences to look for in each ROM? That is to say, if one of you experienced members were to flash a new ROM, what things do you pay particular attention to?
I've always found that it helps in the learning process to know what you're supposed to be learning, so I'd like to have an organized mind as I explore.
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Glad I saw this thread. I'm new to messing around with Android, but I'm always eager to read and learn. Right now, I'm using a stock debloated ROM and just playing with themes. The stock ROM had been perfectly suitable for me and I'm not left wanting...but I do get curious about the other ROMs.
I understand that its a matter of personal preference and the only way to know which is "best"for a person is to try them out.
However, could you educate a beginner on what sort of practical differences to look for in each ROM? That is to say, if one of you experienced members were to flash a new ROM, what things do you pay particular attention to?
I've always found that it helps in the learning process to know what you're supposed to be learning, so I'd like to have an organized mind as I explore.
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There are lots of things to look for such as..
Battery, smoothness, simplicity, mods, tweaks, themes, and I'm sure I'm missing some more.
For the most part Juggernaut has all the above along with BeastMod.
But again ALL the roms we have are GOOD. All the devs we have are amazing at what they do and my best tip for you is to try them all.
Stay at least 3 days with each one and from there you'll be able to decide which one fits you more.
I hope this helps.
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hazard99 said:
um that rom aint gunna work for our phones buddy.
Im rockin beastmod and lovin.
So more of the story is I think they are all solid.
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Samsung Galaxy 2 right? Just checked the forum and its for sgs2
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heres how it is, ive only tried beastmod and juggernaut, so far beastmod was good, but once i tried juggernaut i was sold, its snappier, specially with the new bullet kernel, its speedy!
Beast Mod consistently holds me down no bugs reboots a lot nicer on the eyes without being excessive... I'm downloading 2.5 to give it a full shot
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But I agree the best way to really know what you like is try em all and use it as you would normally some people love speed but don't care about battery and some do etc;
Like everyone says, kindof a preference thing....
In my opinion, juggernaut is the best rom atm, it has the most dev support and has the most advanced options right now.
I'm rocking the following and am quite happy:
ROM: juggernaut 2.6
Kernel: bullet 1.8
Theme: ICS theme (without installing system apps, just want blue taskbar and themes and not the somewhat crappy ICS launcher)
Launcher: LauncherPro with Custom made ICS buttons. (see my post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19247803#post19247803)
That said, bombaridier is smooth and clean, beastmod is unique and has an enthusiastic following.
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Samsung Galaxy 2 right? Just checked the forum and its for sgs2
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Different processors.
This is my first android phone and i jumped in head first and rooted it the second day i had it and have since tried all versions of every rom so far. personally i think juggs has tons of potential but atm they are ironing out the bugs, good for customizing but dont post about a bug without a log of the error. bomba is stable and fast and lacks bugs, best daily driver at the moment. beast just feels like a kang of jugg. kernels to go with are all good right now. seems like jugg (or beast) works best with their accompanying rom, jugs. and bomba rocks with synergy, gonna try it with bullet today.

[Q] Sorry that I gotta ask but...

... which is the most stable ROM out there for this phone. This is my first time on the SGSII forum. My wife and I own Vibrants at the moment fully rooted running 2.2 Bionix 1.3.1 with the Bali 1.8.8 kernel (for those who might know that setup) and yes it is a old ROM but its straight from the source so it is 99% percent stable (Battery & GPS). We are going to upgrade to SGSIIs very soon and I don't want stock on either phone. YES I apologize for not taking my time to do my homework but I would like to install a KNOWN stable ROM right off the bat on my wife's phone cuz I don't want to hear her complaining that this **** don't work or this other **** is buggy...you guys get my point? I'm gonna experiment with mine but hers I just wanna flash one ROM that is gonna be good from the get-go so she could start using it right away.
...again I'm sorry for the "best ROM out there" question (which I myself hate) and THX ahead.
Never had any issues with juggernaut, no fcs or anything. Lots of nice themes for it too. As for kernels, the new darkside has been the best for me.
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BeastMod. I get amazing battery life and never had any lag.
I love dewizzed, just an amazing ROM. It also includes customizable boot animation.
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A similar thread is also going on which ROM, but you qualified it by mentioning your Vibrant setup. My wife also upgraded from a Vibrant running the same Bionix/Bali combo so I know what you mean by stability as well as performance. Luckily you have several choices as noted above but I've settled on Dewizzed as my main choice: based on stock, extremely stable, very fast data speeds, GPS locks in an amazingly short time, great battery life... I also know that the team are working on some exciting things for the next version and am looking forward to seeing what is offered up.
Beastmod 4.2 or Monhk's new rom
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You should use Juggernaut, it's a really nice rom- fast and stable.
I think juggs is a good choice as well. Needs tweaking though
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Thx everyone. As always everyone got their favorite that runs great on their phone. Based on these choices Ima read a little further on these ROMs.
... btw guess we upgrading even sooner cuz they stole my 13 y.o. son's phone today and I guess he's gonna get one of these Vibrants.

Vinilla ICS

Im just curious if we will ever get a rom that is based on vanilla ICS and not CM9 or MIUI? I know that We wont ever get an official update, but ive seen a bunch of different handsets that dont have official roms with a working ICS vanilla rom in progress or already working.
Why? Cm9 is better optimized and has fixes
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metalblaster said:
Im just curious if we will ever get a rom that is based on vanilla ICS and not CM9 or MIUI? I know that We wont ever get an official update, but ive seen a bunch of different handsets that dont have official roms with a working ICS vanilla rom in progress or already working.
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You can make cm9 as vanilla as you want. Its more customizable than stock...
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Higher powers forbid you to ever say anything remotely negative about CM. But I'll second that. "CleanICS" would be sweet.
CM6 I wouldn't touch because the bug list was huge. Sure, you can have CM, but your phone wont properly work.
I tried CM7 and found it about as comfortable for a daily runner as wearing a burlap undershirt.
CM9 is still just an Alpha, so even though folks are raving about it there's still little chance it's any better than the above. All that customization, I don't give a rip. I'd rather have my phone working, normally.
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Higher powers forbid you to ever say anything remotely negative about CM. But I'll second that. "CleanICS" would be sweet.
CM6 I wouldn't touch because the bug list was huge. Sure, you can have CM, but your phone wont properly work.
I tried CM7 and found it about as comfortable for a daily runner as wearing a burlap undershirt.
CM9 is still just an Alpha, so even though folks are raving about it there's still little chance it's any better than the above. All that customization, I don't give a rip. I'd rather have my phone working, normally.
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I am a fan of as many options and ROMS for our phones as we can have. I guess my point is you can make CM9 as watered down as you want. CM9 is as close to an ICS release as we will ever see on the Epic, seeing as there will never be a "stock" version. I guess its just user preference and I am a fan of all ROMS really. But it sounds like all you need, is to pick the ROM you want to run and apply an ICS theme.
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I am a fan of as many options and ROMS for our phones as we can have. I guess my point is you can make CM9 as watered down as you want. CM9 is as close to an ICS release as we will ever see on the Epic, seeing as there will never be a "stock" version. I guess its just user preference and I am a fan of all ROMS really. But it sounds like all you need, is to pick the ROM you want to run and apply an ICS theme.
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Yeah i was talking to a sprint rep a few weeks ago and i was talking to him about ICS and hey basically said " Yeah!, i was talking to samsung and they straight up told me we wouldn't be able to ICS on the phone because the TW UI requires a lot and all the software they bloat it on" But you'd think even if they did update it and stripped TW simple and clean but yet stylish and removed excess bloatware and a few mods it could happen. That it still would make people buy newer products but also have more support for them because their throwing newer support for old tech.
I guess i just dont see why devs would go through the trouble of making an aosp ics build for us when we already have cm9 which is based on it, just with some enhancements. Aosp would not somehow run better or be a better option for a daily driver.. its just a step backward from cm in terms of options and customizability.
By a gnex if u really want haha
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[Q] Is CM9 stable enough for non-power user?

I'm an experienced ROM flasher and I've been using CM9 on my OG Epic 4g since the first beta. My question is for my wife's new Epic 4G Touch. We upgraded her from a Nexus S 4G and she really liked the stock ICS on that. (Got a great deal on the upgrade with Best Buy's Buy Back program! After all was said and done, we got the GSII plus insurance for free plus an $85 gift card!)
I would like to flash CM9 on her GSII. Will it be enough like her old Nexus S to make her feel comfortable? TW is driving her a bit nuts.
Thanks in advance!
Jason
You could go with cm9 alpha 4 and use kobridges tweaks for great battery life
I would flash calks 1.6 with the Kobridge tweaks. just throw nova launcher on there and it will be more than enough speed and battery,
They just released a pre-alpha for cm9 5, so you could also wait for a more stable version of 5 to come out if you're set on CM
CM9 is plenty stable enough for daily use. Since you're experienced, you can upgrade her CM9 anytime a new major build or the final comes out.
Yes she would feel very comfortable. But I'd advise her to update the ROM as new builds are made, even though there are a few minor bugs to none left. I've only experienced one bug and it's when the 3g icon goes white and no data can be retrieved. The work around is to toggle airplane mode on and off. But I myself use an app that automatically detects this and fixed the problem. So you can say I am bug free but keep in mind, not everyone experiences that bug.
Btw CM9 is the most stable AOSP ROM here so good choice. Flash the pre-alpha 5 version as it is the latest and make sure you've updated to the latest ICS modem or whichever ICS modem you want. Latest is preferred lol (FE22)
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Cyanogenmod 9 is very stable there is and alpha 5 pre1 I flashed the fe16 kernel after the gapps and I get extreamly great battery life.
There is no touchwiz or any of that Samsung/Sprint bloatware and it has a nice stock android experience.
go for it... nuff said!
Although I'd say it is stable, I don't think battery life is up to par with GB roms. Keep that in mind if battery life is going to be a major point for this person.
I'd say either CM9, ParanoidAndroid, or MIUI...
Maybe you'll just have to flash a few rooms and see which one she likes the most. MIUI makes the UI very simple like an iPhone kinda... there are many themes available for it. CM9 is just a modified/tweaked AOSP rom, it has your basic Android UI which you can also theme using the baked in theme chooser. ParanoidAndroid is based off of CM9 with it's own tweaks/modifications baked into the system, it has app specific screen density settings which allows you to run an app as if your phone was a tablet. It is mainly a power user rom but with some use is very easy to configure.
Like I said you might want to see what she would like to run on this beast of a phone... maybe before you know it she'll be a power user and start teaching you a few tips and tricks lol. Hope this helps even if it is just a little bit. Cheers :beer:
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Thanks for everyone's feedback. I'm going to give CM9 a shot. I'll make sure to get a good nandroid backup just in case. And thanks for the reminder about Nova Launcher, afinch1992. I run it on my phone and agree it would be a good choice for her.
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Like I said you might want to see what she would like to run on this beast of a phone... maybe before you know it she'll be a power user and start teaching you a few tips and tricks lol. Hope this helps even if it is just a little bit. Cheers :beer:
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LOL. Yeah, I'm a little envious of her phone, but my upgrade is in August and I will probably get the SIII. That will make me feel a little better
Just make sure you follow the install guide to the letter. Don't want to end up with a brick.
http://e4gtcm.blogspot.com/p/cm9-install-guide.html
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Just make sure you follow the install guide to the letter. Don't want to end up with a brick.
http://e4gtcm.blogspot.com/p/cm9-install-guide.html
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Brick would be bad. I'd never hear the end of that. Thanks for the link. My first step will be following QBKing77's root video to try to root, install CWM and do a nandroid without losing data. Also going to use MyBackup before I try to root.
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Brick would be bad. I'd never hear the end of that. Thanks for the link. My first step will be following QBKing77's root video to try to root, install CWM and do a nandroid without losing data. Also going to use MyBackup before I try to root.
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Yeah definitely follow a guide. Its not normal par for the course at the moment with the whole EMMC firmware bug frying storage when Erase_All is called. Aka dont format or erase (or in my opinion use) CWM once on cm9 or any ICS based rom until source is released and the devs can easily fix it.

[Q] Should I Install CM 10?

I am a long time Android and long time CM user. I have been using an LG G2x for way too long and finally got fed up with it. I have a brand new Galaxy S3 arriving tomorrow and am trying to figure out what to do when I get it.
For those of you have have used both the stock OS and CM 10, what are the advantages of each? By rooting and installing CM 10, what stock Samsung features will I lose? Are there any you think I might actually miss? So just in general, I was hoping someone who used both the stock OS and CM 10 for a decent amount of time could explain to me exactly what I will gain/lose by rooting and installing CM 10 on this phone. Thanks!
Not a good thread at all to start up man, just try them out and see for your self. Every one likes different things so it's kind of hard for us to just assume your needs... you know what I mean? Lots like both for different reasons, some always revert back to a stock rom some always go back to a cm rom.
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Leave it stock but rooted for the first few days to see what you think. Many think the extra features and that its stable and fast are worth staying stock based. Still a lot of others opt for cm or aokp regardless. Just give em both their fsir chance!
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flash the latest cm10 nightly. They work for Samsung and all
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Not a good thread at all to start up man, just try them out and see for your self. Every one likes different things so it's kind of hard for us to just assume your needs... you know what I mean? Lots like both for different reasons, some always revert back to a stock rom some always go back to a cm rom.
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That is why I didn't ask if I should flash CM 10 or not. I very simply asked what the differences were between stock and CM 10. I am wondering what features I will have with stock that I will lose with CM 10 and vice versa. That is a very fair question to ask of people who have already used both. I am trying to avoid trying both by going through a hassle and having to reinstall my programs and reconfigure my settings multiple times if I don't have to.
You lose all samsung stock features. That should be a no brainer. No motion activities, no smart stay (natively) no touchwiz, no wifi calling. Vanilla stock is what it always is, clean, no bloat, and super fast... what I said wasnt in any way being rude. It was exteremly truthful, and to the point.
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You lose all samsung stock features. That should be a no brainer. No motion activities, no smart stay (natively) no touchwiz, no wifi calling. Vanilla stock is what it always is, clean, no bloat, and super fast... what I said wasnt in any way being rude. It was exteremly truthful, and to the point.
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Wifi calling doesn't work on CM 10? I have been using it on CM 7 for my G2x.
So do you miss any of those Samsung features? I guess are they gimmicky or actually nice to have? From reviews, I have read that stock is really fast, so not sure if I gain speed by going to CM. Have you noticed speed improvements with CM 10 over stock?
I know but its so deeply integrated into framework and settings now its a pain. And no I personally don't miss those gimmicky features, but allot of people do. I stick to tw roms, because of battery. It always seems to last longer on stock based roms for me. Otherwise I prefer cm based roms. Lets just say I'll be moving to cm as soon as I feel it is closer to 100% in my eyes. Or the nexus 4 lol. And the only way I can feel it being 100% is by me testing it, not asking others. That's what I meant with my 1st post.
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I have to agree with mt3g here. AOSP ROMs are not the same as TW ROMs. I used TW for awhile when I first got my SGS3 and flashed pretty much all of them out there. I wasn't concerned with battery use, as I consider myself a battery expert. I was more interested in performance and features that were exclusive to TW and AOSP. They are so different that the only way to really get to know each other is to test drive them yourself.
Now I am on LiquidSmooth (AOSP base) and I love it. I am getting massive battery life, have tethering (I thethered my tablet to is almost all day yesterday after a bad flash [on the tablet not the phone]), Theme chooser springs a bit of life back into the eyecandy part. <--sometimes people flash not bc they want a new ROM but a new look .
Will I go back to TW? Sure. I tested Doc's ROM before he released it and I like it plenty enough to run it as a daily driver. But this is XDA and what are here for?
What do we want? A custom ROM
When do we want it? NO ETAs!!!! :cyclops:
Woodrube said:
I have to agree with mt3g here. AOSP ROMs are not the same as TW ROMs. I used TW for awhile when I first got my SGS3 and flashed pretty much all of them out there. I wasn't concerned with battery use, as I consider myself a battery expert. I was more interested in performance and features that were exclusive to TW and AOSP. They are so different that the only way to really get to know each other is to test drive them yourself.
Now I am on LiquidSmooth (AOSP base) and I love it. I am getting massive battery life, have tethering (I thethered my tablet to is almost all day yesterday after a bad flash [on the tablet not the phone]), Theme chooser springs a bit of life back into the eyecandy part. <--sometimes people flash not bc they want a new ROM but a new look .
Will I go back to TW? Sure. I tested Doc's ROM before he released it and I like it plenty enough to run it as a daily driver. But this is XDA and what are here for?
What do we want? A custom ROM
When do we want it? NO ETAs!!!! :cyclops:
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Very well said. :good:
I personally never ever ran a touchwiz or sense ROMs on any device I've ever owned for more than a day. I just missed the full control cm ROMs give. Ever since my HD2 I've ran cm7 up to cm10 on my s3. I really never notice the features being lost from a tw ROM mostly because I don't use them. Never really thought their "advertised" features were all that.
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I am running on a CM10 based rom and the only stock Samsung feature I miss is the Smart Stay. Everything else was just too gimmicky
Pretty sure there is an app for most of the samsung features.
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I stuck to stock ICS TW for a couple of days and I didn't enjoy it.
It just seemed too much and I wanted a closer to stock experience.
Made the switch to CM10. Greatest thing ever.
It's simple, effective, and works in pretty much every way that I would like.
The only thing that I miss from TW is the Messaging app.
jimbo831 said:
I am a long time Android and long time CM user. I have been using an LG G2x for way too long and finally got fed up with it. I have a brand new Galaxy S3 arriving tomorrow and am trying to figure out what to do when I get it.
For those of you have have used both the stock OS and CM 10, what are the advantages of each? By rooting and installing CM 10, what stock Samsung features will I lose? Are there any you think I might actually miss? So just in general, I was hoping someone who used both the stock OS and CM 10 for a decent amount of time could explain to me exactly what I will gain/lose by rooting and installing CM 10 on this phone. Thanks!
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Do you use Skype, Vox, or any other VOIP app? If you do, then don't flash CM10, AOKP or any other AOSP based rom.
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Do you use Skype, Vox, or any other VOIP app? If you do, then don't flash CM10, AOKP or any other AOSP based rom.
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May I know why? I'm right now with the Galaxy SI and on CM10, hoping to get the S3 and on the same dilemma. Right now my Skype works well on the CM10, Viber works only on speaker phone.
Having tried cm 10/aokp as well as TW ROMs for extended periods of time, I can say the following:
Although at first missing a certain TW feature might seem like a drawback- the feeling comes from what you're used to, and after a few days or week you will likely forget those features which you previously had which you thought were so important. For me the TW calendar (s Planner) was the big thing I was missing- since for a while I really couldn't find a good substitute which looked as good and performed as well! Finally I found one, so now I don't even compare anymore, but even if I hadn't found a substitute I'm sure I would have moved on at some point.
Point is, base your choice on the majority of the benefits that you'll get from the respective ROM. Personally, I like aokp/cm10 precisely because of its overall simplistic aesthetic ( I'm in love with the native jelly bean fonts used in the notification bar) and its native ability to theme. In terms of performance and extra tweaks, there are plenty of custom TW ROMs which are on par with the aosp ones (IMO). So I think it comes down to the overall feel/look, and pure personal preference.
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jimbo831 said:
I am a long time Android and long time CM user. I have been using an LG G2x for way too long and finally got fed up with it. I have a brand new Galaxy S3 arriving tomorrow and am trying to figure out what to do when I get it.
For those of you have have used both the stock OS and CM 10, what are the advantages of each? By rooting and installing CM 10, what stock Samsung features will I lose? Are there any you think I might actually miss? So just in general, I was hoping someone who used both the stock OS and CM 10 for a decent amount of time could explain to me exactly what I will gain/lose by rooting and installing CM 10 on this phone. Thanks!
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you will lose wifi calling, you will lose the ability to upload music straight from the music player to drop box, you will lose your mind, however, once you run a JB ROM and use google now for the first time, and you will go ape over the amount of customization available to cm10 users.
honestly, used "stock" for about 3 weeks when i first got my device back in july, flashed cm10, and never looked back. words cannot describe how amazing and feature-packed a cm10 ROM is...
flash hellfire 1.3 (if you don't mind the red), and give slim bean a shot if you don't want the red. I have had nothing but positive results with those two.
also, follow my guide in this section for the flashing process.
good luck.
WiFi calling
For me WiFi calling is the biggest feature, and extremely important. I don't have T-Mobile signal in my lab, where I spend most of the time and WiFi calling is the only hope. This is why I'm staying with the stock for now.
But if anyone can show me a way to get WiFi calling on CM10, I will be really thankful. Hate the stock rom from the bottom of my heart!!
-Thanks
The camera on cm10 is whats holding me back but once they come out with cm10.1 based on JB 4.2 then i think ill root and rom my phone.
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