I swapped out Roms (went from Stock 4.0.4 to deoxed/rooted stock 4.0.4 to AOKP v25 4.0.3 and then back to deoxed/rooted stock 4.0.4) and then restored from a titanium backup, and now google talk will no longer function.
The whole reason I left the AOKP rom is because gtalk wasn't working, so I assumed it was an issue with the ROM.
I've tried uninstalling it (root uninstaller) and restoring it, I've tried wiping the data, deleting the cache, etc. Unfortunately, it's not available on the market, so the only way I can reinstall it is via my single titanium backup. Anyone have any ideas?
Why did you restore app and data when all you had to do was flash gapps? Especially gapps from different versions nevertheless.
Yeah, it isn't the rom but user error so it seems.
The app and data was from a backup taken before I went to AOKP (stock, rooted, deodexed 4.0.4), so they're the same versions I'm trying to restore back onto my phone now that I'm back on that version.
Secondly, I am restoring everything so I don't have to recustomize everything and all of my old system settings come back in. Pretty sure this is standard practice? Perhaps if you didn't have a solution you could keep your snooty responses to yourself?
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The app and data was from a backup taken before I went to AOKP (stock, rooted, deodexed 4.0.4), so they're the same versions I'm trying to restore back onto my phone now that I'm back on that version.
Secondly, I am restoring everything so I don't have to recustomize everything and all of my old system settings come back in. Pretty sure this is standard practice? Perhaps if you didn't have a solution you could keep your snooty responses to yourself?
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"Restoring everything" from Titanium is probably restoring your problem too. When I flash a new rom with a wipe it takes me 15-20 minutes to let Google restore my apps, restore data only to specific non-system apps with Titanium, re-do my settings customizations.
Give it a try and maybe your stuff will work too.
Good luck.
Well I just said screw it, and restored from a nandroid backup I had taken instead of the Titanium version and everything is working fine.
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"Restoring everything" from Titanium is probably restoring your problem too. When I flash a new rom with a wipe it takes me 15-20 minutes to let Google restore my apps, restore data only to specific non-system apps with Titanium, re-do my settings customizations.
Give it a try and maybe your stuff will work too.
Good luck.
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Yea, you're probably right. I'd used nandroid backups previously and just wanted to give titanium pro a shot with a full batch restore. Looks like I'll stick to using that for individual one-offs and nandroid for entire system backups. Thanks!
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Yea, you're probably right. I'd used nandroid backups previously and just wanted to give titanium pro a shot with a full batch restore. Looks like I'll stick to using that for individual one-offs and nandroid for entire system backups. Thanks!
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You can restore apps + app data, but its really never a good idea to restore system data, especially as a batch restore. If you must restore them, you should be a little more selective.
TiBU restore can be useless for a lot of things, especially on something like Google Talk, where you get it automatically with a GAPPS flash and it restores everything for you when you sign in.
Pretty simple actually, if a restored app is problematic, DON'T restore... especially not gapps like gtalk....
Everyone told you the same thing and I was the first. somehow that offended you at first, ungrateful egoist sunflower in a greenhouse with a fragile emotional issues being butthurt over nothing more like it.
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I'm new to Rooting and I was wondering if I flashed lets say to a new rom weather it is 2.2 or 2.1 and I don't like it or something dosen't work. Can I just flash the most current nandroid backup to return or do I have to flash the old rom that I was using then the nandroid backup on top of that ??
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You sure can as long as the new ROM you flash is also a rooted ROM.
So basically I can jump from rom to rom to see what I like and just flash my backup to return to the original.... Cool.thanks
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Just returned to a nand backup last night. First time ever and worked fine...(I did a titanium backup first as had messages and app changes.)
How perfect, a simple search answered my exactl question.
I can run three roms and as long asI refresh my nandroids before flipping to another to restore I will miss very little. Only issue I can think of is let's say I run stock rooted for a week, and flip to a nandroid of CM6 for a week, then back to stock rooted...I would not have text messages from that time. I can fix that with TiBackup.
Am I missing anything? And, thanks to the people making me do all this stuff to my phone
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How perfect, a simple search answered my exactl question.
I can run three roms and as long asI refresh my nandroids before flipping to another to restore I will miss very little. Only issue I can think of is let's say I run stock rooted for a week, and flip to a nandroid of CM6 for a week, then back to stock rooted...I would not have text messages from that time. I can fix that with TiBackup.
Am I missing anything? And, thanks to the people making me do all this stuff to my phone
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Nope you havent missed anything Thats what i do all the time I believe for a certain period of time something else backs up texts as well because i often get all my texts back after a few minutes even those after the nandroid.
I've seen people having issues when using Titanium to restore apps and data from a 2.1 backup to 2.2 rom and vice versa. I think if you're just cycling between 2.2 roms, you should be ok though.
All I needed to know, thanks!
I'll only rotate 2.2 roms, no need to look back, but I appreciate that note also.
fachadick said:
I've seen people having issues when using Titanium to restore apps and data from a 2.1 backup to 2.2 rom and vice versa. I think if you're just cycling between 2.2 roms, you should be ok though.
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I use MyBackup to backup APKS+DATA when jumping from 2.1 to 2.2 and vice versa ROMS without issue. Love it, love it.
fachadick said:
I've seen people having issues when using Titanium to restore apps and data from a 2.1 backup to 2.2 rom and vice versa. I think if you're just cycling between 2.2 roms, you should be ok though.
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I have been cycling between the 2 a LOT here is what i have found works. when you select to restore all apps/data look through the list and uncheck all the 2.1 system apps (ie checkin_update 2.1, google_search_update 2.1) once you do this you can restore everything else no problem. I have used ths method at least 10 times with no issues back and forth. If you backed up on 2.2 do the same thing just uncheck the 2.2 version of this information.
Can someone clarify the difference between backing up via:
#1 Nandroid
#2 Titanium Backup
What exactly is or isn't backed up? I'm assuming Nandroid misses certain things otherwise no one would use TB?
berardi said:
Can someone clarify the difference between backing up via:
#1 Nandroid
#2 Titanium Backup
What exactly is or isn't backed up? I'm assuming Nandroid misses certain things otherwise no one would use TB?
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titanium backup is just for apps
nandroid restore is like restoring an image of your hard drive to your pc. it not only restores the apps, but the entire ROM (barring radio and wimax radio).
i.e., you have a ROM going. you use titanium backup to backup your apps. then, do a nandroid backup and flash an entire new ROM. then, you could use titanium backup to put the apps back on. then, you would use nandroid restore to go back to the old ROM, completely. with nandroid, you can flip-flop between ROMs with everything that you had when you backed it up.
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titanium backup is just for apps
nandroid restore is like restoring an image of your hard drive to your pc. it not only restores the apps, but the entire ROM (barring radio and wimax radio).
i.e., you have a ROM going. you use titanium backup to backup your apps. then, do a nandroid backup and flash an entire new ROM. then, you could use titanium backup to put the apps back on. then, you would use nandroid restore to go back to the old ROM, completely. with nandroid, you can flip-flop between ROMs with everything that you had when you backed it up.
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Thank you so much that makes it quite clear! I was struggling with that for a while
So Titanium Backup backs things up that are generally able to be carried from one ROM to the next without problem? I noticed that it also does backup system settings (notifications, etc) which is great. These things generally won't corrupt a new ROM file right?
So with 2.2 backing up apps and their data, the main draw of TB would be the backing up of system settings?
How long does it take to complete a nandroid restore? I tried to restore a backup yesterday and it was taking over three hours! I said f' it and pulled out the battery, luckily I was able to boot into recovery and wipe/flash fresh's 2.2 ROM from scratch.
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How long does it take to complete a nandroid restore? I tried to restore a backup yesterday and it was taking over three hours! I said f' it and pulled out the battery, luckily I was able to boot into recovery and wipe/flash fresh's 2.2 ROM from scratch.
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Should only take 5 minutes or so, about as long as it takes to flash a new ROM.
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Thank you so much that makes it quite clear! I was struggling with that for a while
So Titanium Backup backs things up that are generally able to be carried from one ROM to the next without problem? I noticed that it also does backup system settings (notifications, etc) which is great. These things generally won't corrupt a new ROM file right?
So with 2.2 backing up apps and their data, the main draw of TB would be the backing up of system settings?
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Yes, but it could potentially be problematic to just start restoring things in bulk from a TB backup between different ROMs, even if they are the same base build. Read flipz's rant on the subject.
I am going back to SRF 1.2 after being on EH17 for a while now. I made backups in Titanium Backup and I tried restoring all missing apps + data, but I ended up with a bunch of FCs and an incomplete restore. Is this because some system data is incompatible between the two? If so, what should I restore to avoid this?
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I am going back to SRF 1.2 after being on EH17 for a while now. I made backups in Titanium Backup and I tried restoring all missing apps + data, but I ended up with a bunch of FCs and an incomplete restore. Is this because some system data is incompatible between the two? If so, what should I restore to avoid this?
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Just restore the APKs w/o data.
Some APKs will FC even that way, those that do. Uninstall and reinstall via market (handcent always does when I try to restore the apk)
then setup your apps
That is how I went from GB Leak back to EC05 (just flashed midnight right over gb leak and then restored apks, call log, sms, mms and dictionary)
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Just restore the APKs w/o data.
Some APKs will FC even that way, those that do. Uninstall and reinstall via market (handcent always does when I try to restore the apk)
then setup your apps
That is how I went from GB Leak back to EC05 (just flashed midnight right over gb leak and then restored apks, call log, sms, mms and dictionary)
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I appreciate the response. I tried what you said. Restoring only the apks didn't cause any problems, but when I restored call log, sms, mms, and dictionary, I rebooted and I was having the same problem with messaging FCs. Any ideas? I don't really need to restore anything except apks and messages, call logs, and possibly contacts. I just want to be on EC05 again
Don't do it the way I tried... and tried... and tried several times over again today.
Thank goodness I finally got all my GF's data and apps back, but making a cwm backup, then flashing any of a few EC05 ROMS, and trying to restore apps universally led to a complete "hang" during the boot animation at some point. Sigh.
Fortunately, I was able to put the EH17 back, restore apps from the CWM backup, and only lost a few hours' time, rather than my GF's good will.
So, if I use titanium backup, I should be able to restore the apks and such, after flashing an EC05 rom back over the current one?
JV
Non-system apps. Even then some will go wrong.
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Non-system apps. Even then some will go wrong.
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That kind of blows. No other way to tell than trial and error, then? I suppose, worst case, something she cares about blows up and I roll it completely back to EH17, just like yesterday. Learning experience and all that.
What's the best process to use in TB to backup and restore before and after a clean install with a new rom. Should I do apps and data or just apps? I want to do a true clean install and not carry over any junk by restoring backups. Any help is appreciated.
Myself, when I do a restore from TB I will do a batch restore of just the apps. If the apps all restore with no issues then I will go back and restore the data to the apps that rely on having the data restored such as games, or anything else that may have personalized settings. This has worked well for me with no issues.
I've used this going from Aosp roms to sense roms and vice versa.
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Myself, when I do a restore from TB I will do a batch restore of just the apps. If the apps all restore with no issues then I will go back and restore the data to the apps that rely on having the data restored such as games, or anything else that may have personalized settings. This has worked well for me with no issues.
I've used this going from Aosp roms to sense roms and vice versa.
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Agreed. Especially in the case of going back and forth between AOSP and Sense.
Good post.
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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Didn't notice that the OP also asked about backing up from a clean install...
I just did this yesterday, going from an Aosp rom to a Sense rom...
After doing your install, and getting what apps and settings taken care of that you want, go into TB and do a batch backup of both the apps and the system settings.
I've never really used the system settings backups, other than wifi info, but I just like to have the backup'd settings for just in case moments.
I also will clean out my backups from time to time, doing a complete delete of the backups. But before I do this, I make a copy of my TB sd card folder and place it into a folder on my notebook for safe keeping in case I ever need it. Never needed it yet, but you never know...
Awesome! Thanks for the help guys. You definitely answered my questions. I have yet to have a problem, knock on wood. I just wanted to make sure I'm not carrying over any erroneous data.
How to restore from titanium backup after changing rom
SkinnyT said:
What's the best process to use in TB to backup and restore before and after a clean install with a new rom. Should I do apps and data or just apps? I want to do a true clean install and not carry over any junk by restoring backups. Any help is appreciated.
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Hey I have changed my rom and before changing the rom i had backed up all my data in titanium back up but i do not knw how to restore it back can u help me pls? request
Thanks in advance
So heres a noob question.
If I use (Rouge currently) to do a "backup" under options. And then start flashing ROMs, if I restore that backup I did, does that get me 100% back to the point of when I did the backup? Meaning, it restores -everything- like it never happened?
I've always wondered this, so if I'm flashing things, I can always get back to my fully stable setup exactly like it never happened by restoring? Or does the backup via Rouge( or CWM, or whatever ) only back certain things and I'll have to do more setup after restoring to get back up and running exactly like I had the phone before?
Sorry for the noob question, just want to make sure I got this straight.
It will restore everything 100%. You also have the option to restore other partitions separate, system, boot, and the most important , data.
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It will restore everything 100%. You also have the option to restore other partitions separate, system, boot, and the most important , data.
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This is what I assumed, thank you for the confirmation!
Here is a follow up question:
If I do a Titianium Backup for apps and sys data. Then I flash a new ROM, I usually do a Titanium restore of both Sys and App data ... It gets me up and running the quickest.
1.) Is this safe, or will sys data mess with the ROM
2.) Is there a better, more supportable way to do this?
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Here is a follow up question:
If I do a Titianium Backup for apps and sys data. Then I flash a new ROM, I usually do a Titanium restore of both Sys and App data ... It gets me up and running the quickest.
1.) Is this safe, or will sys data mess with the ROM
2.) Is there a better, more supportable way to do this?
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1) It's always best NOT to restore system data when flashing a new rom. All your system data is specific to the rom you are flashing, so you don't want anything to conflict with the new data you are using now. Will cause a lot of problems in the long run.
2) TB is the best way to restore apps and apps+data that I know of. MyBackUp Pro is another good one, but TB works best for me. I'm sure there are others in the market also.
And I moved this to the Q&A section.
Well, this is what I thought too in fact I rooted my phone, installed CWM and the next step I performed was a nandroid backup thinking I could get my stock setup back if I ever wanted it. All was good. Then I flashed for a while and found a setup I liked and before proceeding I did another nandroid. THEN a while later I got to a point were I found myself, for time purposes wanting to fall back to my second backup so I thought: "hey, lets try restoring from this nandroid file I so maticulously spent time creating"!
That's when, for me at least, this whole nandroid Backup/Restore exercise falls on its face. Because when I tried to restore the backup I made it gave me a MD5 error..and I know there's a workaround that you can use by modifying the file I think that's basically what your doing? I didn't try it, I figured if the file needed to be modified before it could be restored what was the point anyway.? I just used my plan B which was Titanium Backup.
Anyway I keep my eyes open for an answer to this mystery, I think it has to do with the different CWM versions from one ROM to the next? Still not sure though?
Oh and hopefully this post wont just get rudely deleted like my first post on the same subject did? I made the same mistake you have by posting in the "General" area instead of the Q&A section!
the only time I have had a Android fail for md5 was when I changed the name of the backup. so maybe that's what you did?
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So heres a noob question.
If I use (Rouge currently) to do a "backup" under options. And then start flashing ROMs, if I restore that backup I did, does that get me 100% back to the point of when I did the backup? Meaning, it restores -everything- like it never happened?
I've always wondered this, so if I'm flashing things, I can always get back to my fully stable setup exactly like it never happened by restoring? Or does the backup via Rouge( or CWM, or whatever ) only back certain things and I'll have to do more setup after restoring to get back up and running exactly like I had the phone before?
Sorry for the noob question, just want to make sure I got this straight.
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I have done many restores and everything comes back just like it was before.
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Here is a follow up question:
If I do a Titianium Backup for apps and sys data. Then I flash a new ROM, I usually do a Titanium restore of both Sys and App data ... It gets me up and running the quickest.
1.) Is this safe, or will sys data mess with the ROM
2.) Is there a better, more supportable way to do this?
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I only use Titanium backup to backup and restore specific apps on my phone. I use CWM for the system.
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the only time I have had a Android fail for md5 was when I changed the name of the backup. so maybe that's what you did?
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nope. I followed step by step...pretty hard to mess it up with qbking77 video's? Is there any other possible reason, you can think of?..and really, how many people test out thier restores? I'm just wondering?
Just one quick point of clarification regarding the Nandroid backup/restore. From what I've read, the restore will bring back your kernel and ROM but NOT the modem version. If the modem is important to you you'll have to flash that back separately.
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Just one quick point of clarification regarding the Nandroid backup/restore. From what I've read, the restore will bring back your kernel and ROM but NOT the modem version. If the modem is important to you you'll have to flash that back separately.
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Good point ... Thanks to everyone for the replies, got a much better understanding on the backup/restore process in both cwm and titanium now ) Thanks!
One more question about the MD5 ... So you can not change the name of the backup of CWM? I didn't think name change would effect how MD5 is generated.
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Here is a follow up question:
If I do a Titianium Backup for apps and sys data. Then I flash a new ROM, I usually do a Titanium restore of both Sys and App data ... It gets me up and running the quickest.
1.) Is this safe, or will sys data mess with the ROM
2.) Is there a better, more supportable way to do this?
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You can also use your latest nandroid back up to restore data. I just tried this as a test with my wife's phone (i also did a separate back up in TB just in case) and it works well.
She was on one of Calks ROMs, and I wanted to switch her to the bare version of the ROM. I wiped data/cache/dalvik, installed the bare rom and rebooted. Once booted, I verified everything was gone (apps, contacts, sms, settings, ect). Then I went back to CWM and went to back up and restore->advanced restore-> restore data. When I booted back up, all her apps, contacts, sms, settings were back. I guess this would be a quick and dirty way to restore your stuff when jumping between a lot of ROMS.
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You can also use your latest nandroid back up to restore data. I just tried this as a test with my wife's phone (i also did a separate back up in TB just in case) and it works well.
She was on one of Calks ROMs, and I wanted to switch her to the bare version of the ROM. I wiped data/cache/dalvik, installed the bare rom and rebooted. Once booted, I verified everything was gone (apps, contacts, sms, settings, ect). Then I went back to CWM and went to back up and restore->advanced restore-> restore data. When I booted back up, all her apps, contacts, sms, settings were back. I guess this would be a quick and dirty way to restore your stuff when jumping between a lot of ROMS.
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So just to be clear ... "Restore Data" in CWM is just Apps and Apps data, no system data is restored correct?
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So just to be clear ... "Restore Data" in CWM is just Apps and Apps data, no system data is restored correct?
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Yes on apps and data.
I've got my mind set on jellybomb and would like to flash that coming from stock. Will dirty flash work? First time flashing a custom rom on this phone. Will I be able to backup and restore my apps and data using titanium backup? Going to probably use mybackup to backup everything else. Also what is your experience with jellybomb? Will there be future updates? Still new to this forum and this phone.
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I've got my mind set on jellybomb and would like to flash that coming from stock. Will dirty flash work? First time flashing a custom rom on this phone. Will I be able to backup and restore my apps and data using titanium backup? Going to probably use mybackup to backup everything else. Also what is your experience with jellybomb? Will there be future updates? Still new to this forum and this phone.
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I've flashed a bunch of ROMs on my phone and I gotta say dirty flashing is trouble. Yes, when reading through the posts, you can always find someone who has dirty-flashed without any problems, but there is a reason why the first debugging recommendation is always "do a clean (fresh) flash." I've heard of many problems with dirty flashing, and if you plan on going from 4.1.2 to 4.2.1 or 4.2.2, dirty flashing is completely out of the question.
As far as Titanium Backup and the other options... I always use Titanium Backup to do all of the dirty work for me (including SMS/MMS messages, phone logs, wifi access points, etc.). My only recommendation would be to not restore the system files (RED in Titanium Backup), as different ROMs might deal with system apps in different ways.
Hope this helps!