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leaving sensation for SGS2. need input

ok ive never liked samsung phones before till i got to play with this beast in the tmo store the other day ,ive already orderded mine and will be getting it in a few days.ive always i guess you could call it "hating" on samsung because i thought their build quality was poor and they tried to be too much like iphone. Well that was then and this is now.The sgs2 won me over instantly when i started playing with it and i even forgot i was looking at a screen with a lower resolution than my sensation because it was so clear and bright. i cant wait to root this thing and install custom roms .ive heard that samsung phones have data issues and reception issues. that didnt seem to be a problem with the demo i got to mess with .any info will be appreciated

that was only with the vibrant, so far that i know! My new sgs2 is fine with all that

I can't wait for root either. Coming from sensation, which is a big phone, this feels humongous. I am sure using different launcher we can utilize the screen size with 5x5 . Love it so far.
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yeah it looks massive. i had an HD2 which also was a little bigger than my sensation screen .i guess i just missed a big ol' screen to look at.I played som HD videos on both phones right next to each other and i really could not tell a difference aside from the samsung looked a little brighter. The camera on my sensation was probably a little better but i had the Amaze camera on it and its pretty good, but the camera on the S2 looked great as well so no loss there.Phone was snappy as hell and for people who judge by quadrants i was getting over 3300 on the Demo ,any how thanks for the replies

Like many people I've been eyeing the SGSII since last winter. I wanted it more than the Sensation. It just took the phone too long to drop here. I used a family upgrade on the Sensation in June and fell in love with it. The Sensation ruined me for this phone. I checked out the SGSII today and the 800 x 480 screen is a no-go for me. It's a personal thing for me as I like very tiny text on the screen and it is much easier to read on my Sensation. Plus there is a ton of ROM development for the Sensation. That and I'm perversely attracted to the feel on the Sensation.
The next family upgrade might still be with Sammy though as I'll be eyeing the Prime and even more resolution.
Other than that the SGSII is a beast internally. TouchWiz is lame IMHO but ROMs should fix that problem soon enough. I do like the phone a lot and don't want to say the Sensation is better, I just like it better. I had the wife try out the SGSII to see if she wanted one, but she just aggravated me. I tried to explain to her what a beast of a phone it is, but it was lost on her non-technical mind. That and she knew if she got it, I would be f'ing with it all the time.
Alas Sammy you guys took too long (probably US carrier's fault) and released this badboy here right before you drop the Prime? The delay cost you possible HTC converts (like me) and maybe Sammy fans with the Prime so close.
Is it just me thinking that way?
Sorry if I sound negative against the SGSII, the phone rocks so that's not my intent.

I can't stand vanilla android or small text, so no.

no offense here. main reason i got rid of my sensation is the damn dust under the screen issue . i dont know if i just hit a homerun in the bad luck dept. or what but i sent the phone back 4 times and the last return they sent me had the problem worse than any that i had. It didnt bother me at first but i just couldnt see paying that much for a phone with a repetitive defect so i decided to give samsung a try

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no offense here. main reason i got rid of my sensation is the damn dust under the screen issue . i dont know if i just hit a homerun in the bad luck dept. or what but i sent the phone back 4 times and the last return they sent me had the problem worse than any that i had. It didnt bother me at first but i just couldnt see paying that much for a phone with a repetitive defect so i decided to give samsung a try
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I've gone through about 6 of them because of the same issue. The last one I got finally doesn't have any dust but the wifi keeps dropping no matter what rom I use
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Just out of curiosity. Has there ever been reports from older samsung phones that had dust in the screen issues?
I have a plug that I use for my aux 3.5mm but if I don't have to use it, then I rather not.

I do not know why HTC phones are so sluggish, although I love sense over everything else samsung or LG has to offer. But I will have to say, S2 is def a great pick. I got mine 2 hours ago and I was playing with it at work. Managed to do this -
now obviously its not rooted or overclocked. But getting a 3800 on quadrant on a snapdragon chip is pretty cool.
Thought i'd share it with people who are trying to make a choice between amaze and s2 like I was

Jjday7 said:
Just out of curiosity. Has there ever been reports from older samsung phones that had dust in the screen issues?
I have a plug that I use for my aux 3.5mm but if I don't have to use it, then I rather not.
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very very few compared to HTC
i have old HTC phones, and yes i do have lots of dust underneath the screen.
but in my case it's probably due the fact the phone shell cracked after too many falls
reason why plastic works better in that kind of scenario, at least it doesn't crack open like the aluminum body

Also, Samsung fuses their screens to the digitizer so there is no space for dust to get trapped in. That's also the reason why their screen seem so bright
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Very good to know and hear, Thanks guys.

I cant wait to get home and get mine. i work offshore so i wont be able to mess with it until the 26th when i get home. Dont get me wrong i liked my sensation and with custom roms and over clock i achieved over 3000 on quadrants with a sense rom, but that was over clocked at 1.78ghz and honestly it just isnt safe. seems this phone has that speed and more already stock cant wait to see where development goes for it. And honestly the stock sensation Rom was crap and it seemed like they just crammed it in the phone without any testing

Yeah I had a sensation and eventually got over it. I am not a big overclocked/root/mod person but I'd hand it to samsung for making snapdragon s3 somewhat capable in front of tegra, omap and exynos.

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I do not know why HTC phones are so sluggish, although I love sense over everything else
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It's their damn Sense that makes it sluggish. Such a resource hog. Funny how ROM developers working for no money make Sense run very well but HTC cannot. My Sensation with stock Sense was sorta "meh" but with optimized Sense ROMs it's amazing. Personally I prefer MiUi though.

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It's their damn Sense that makes it sluggish. Such a resource hog. Funny how ROM developers working for no money make Sense run very well but HTC cannot. My Sensation with stock Sense was sorta "meh" but with optimized Sense ROMs it's amazing. Personally I prefer MiUi though.
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Yeah man, so far I am very happy with my S2 I have been able to play 1080p video in the browser w/o lag/crash. And I am getting 15 Mbits down in Northern Virginia, so I am satisfied in that department aswell. I do miss the HTC Sense, but oh well.

digiholic said:
It's their damn Sense that makes it sluggish. Such a resource hog. Funny how ROM developers working for no money make Sense run very well but HTC cannot. My Sensation with stock Sense was sorta "meh" but with optimized Sense ROMs it's amazing. Personally I prefer MiUi though.
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yea i hear that for me NRGZ28 had the best roms for sensation and best looking . id love for him to come over here and start cooking for this phone once it gets going

hiko007 said:
I do not know why HTC phones are so sluggish, although I love sense over everything else samsung or LG has to offer. But I will have to say, S2 is def a great pick. I got mine 2 hours ago and I was playing with it at work. Managed to do this -
now obviously its not rooted or overclocked. But getting a 3800 on quadrant on a snapdragon chip is pretty cool.
Thought i'd share it with people who are trying to make a choice between amaze and s2 like I was
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Awesome This is excellent.............

SGS2 vs Sensation
Hey tmobile brahs!
I've had my Vibrant for a good year and a half now, and have been long waiting an awesome 4g phone. For the most part, I've simply been waiting on the SG2, but only recently found out that we had another solid option, the Sensation.
I'm currently reading up reviews on both, but i figured I might as well ask you guys, since most of you I'm assuming already have the phone, and had made the decision over the Sensation for a reason/s.
According to my friend, they're both nearly identical, except the GS2 having a slightly better screen. My only worry with the GS2 is, coming from the Vibrant, Samsung not releasing drivers and all that stuff, making GPS for example damn near impossible to perfect with the latest roms (post froyo). Never had an HTC so can't speak on them as a brand.
Thanks guys!

Thinking of jumping ship?

So, had the One X since release date, always had HTC before this. But after having all the issues that have been described here on xda, I spoke to my network (3 uk) and they have said that so long as its within 28 days of the 4/4/12 that they will either replace it for a new one or any other model that they stock.
Now, I'm a flashaholic. I do not want to use the HTC unlock method, always relied on the very clever peeps here for "alternative" ways of s-off. But as it seems the biggest team of Revolutionary aren't working on the One X. I'm considering leaving the HTC brand and moving to the Galaxy Note?
Have any of you guys left the note to come here? It looks the part on paper at least?
Anyone else from 3 UK willing to take the plunge if the offer was sat there?
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I think you shouldn't switch to the Note...
Sooner or later there will be a S-OFF tool.
The NOte is IMO too big, but that's your decision. The other reasons why I dodn't get the note:
- DPI is not as high
- the PenTile thing, this means the display has 33% red and blue subpixels. some people don't notice, but I do: there's not a single straight line. it appears as if every other row of pixels was shifted by 0.5 pixels; I just can't stand it.
I highly recommend you to check if that's a problem for you before getting it. Just saying
P.S: Even though the One X isn't perfect, it's the phone the closest to perfect I ever had.

Iff i waz you id go for Gnexus over note the note is ridiculously big my sister has it as a work phone
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see the thing is i am on Three UK as well. and i had the choice for my two replacements i had so far to go for a different handset. and both times i got close going for the gnexus. now all this hype about quadcore for me i am sorry i really did not notice it so far with the HTC one x...yeah apps load faster than ever but 50% of the apps stuck in loading phase...anyways still a great phone i say and i am more than likely to stick with it because i am really liking stock Sense now
but i do miss overclocking and undervolting and also using an AOKP rom...tough decisions to make one thing i do hate about this phone is though why HTC locked the bootloader..why not just unlock it..
Note no way man stay clear of that huge thing..no no no

Hmmmm? Thanks for the replies folks. As for the size issue (that's what she said!) Im not thay concerned, saying that I've never held one! But I currently have a Advent Vega, that if the Note could replace might be a good thing? Kinda streamline my tech, save me carrying 2 devices?
But aswell as a flashaholic, I'm a sucker for POWER! 1.5ghz quad core vs 1.4ghz dual core? I feel in a real dilemma, I love HTC, always have, but the ONE X has, so far, let me down.
@Dobbi, I will look into the red/blue pixel issue, I have now been spoilt by the quality of the one x screen! It is nice.
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x5starguerillaa said:
Hmmmm? Thanks for the replies folks. As for the size issue (that's what she said!) Im not thay concerned, saying that I've never held one! But I currently have a Advent Vega, that if the Note could replace might be a good thing? Kinda streamline my tech, save me carrying 2 devices?
But aswell as a flashaholic, I'm a sucker for POWER! 1.5ghz quad core vs 1.4ghz dual core? I feel in a real dilemma, I love HTC, always have, but the ONE X has, so far, let me down.
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all honesty mate...it is like cameras..more megapixels does not mean you are going to get better picture. same with the quadcores..so far i would say and yes i know i might get flamed for this my s2 dual core felt bit more snappier at times compare to the one x. so if you are really a flashaholic then maybe the phone to go for is the gnexus...the development for that phone is crazy...but at this moment of time i still will go as to say i will stick with the one x..this must be the longest time i gone without flashing

In all honesty too........my Sensation felt better than my One X.
Please don't go mad at me people. I not a massive sense fan, so that was always the first thing that went once s-off was achieved and all the roms about seem to be sense based or desensed. Not AOSP. I respect all our Devs massively and I am not clever enough or do I have time enough to even begin to learn how to build roms from the ground up using AOSP. But even the sensation was lacking in these roms.
Oh man. I may have to have a long hard think about if I'm ready to leave HTC.
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Note is excellent don't let anyone put you off it, I've played with it many times and the size is a sweet spot. I've had the S2 before the HOX and don't find the HOX that much of a jump in size. It's nice the 4.7" but the 5.3" of the note gives you some more real estate.
You get use to the size after a while.
I'm holding ship with the HOX for the time being the only phone that can sway me away will be the SGS3 only if it excels the HOX but for me it'll be down to the software side and not hardware. Sense > TouchWiz.

I'm in a similar situation only that I've not ordered my HOX yet and I'm coming from a Galaxy Nexus. My biggest issue is to be frank all the problems you guys seem to be having with the htc , i dont care what people say you should NOT be having these sort of issues with a final retail handset. I jumped to samsung with the galaxy s2 after years of htc handset (android & wm) and looking back I'm glad I did. How can anyone defend this locked bootloader policy? seems like the days of simply plugging the phone in and flashing straight from the box are gone for htc which brings me onto samsung.... everything is geared towards flashing there phones, hell Ive even got a £2 clip which unbricks your samsung should anything go wrong With all that said I always a space in my heart for htc just a shame this whole mess may have put me off this time round.
Come next week when I can upgrade I'm 90% sure I'll order the samsung note partly for the reasons above and partly because it is such a sweet device despite the PenTile display which is not noticeable, trust me
oh and dont go for the gnexus if you use any games what so ever the gpu is crap and the main reason I switching (missing my psx gaming fun)

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I'm in a similar situation only that I've not ordered my HOX yet and I'm coming from a Galaxy Nexus. My biggest issue is to be frank all the problems you guys seem to be having with the htc , i dont care what people say you should NOT be having these sort of issues with a final retail handset. I jumped to samsung with the galaxy s2 after years of htc handset (android & wm) and looking back I'm glad I did. How can anyone defend this locked bootloader policy? seems like the days of simply plugging the phone in and flashing straight from the box are gone for htc which brings me onto samsung.... everything is geared towards flashing there phones, hell Ive even got a £2 clip which unbricks your samsung should anything go wrong With all that said I always a space in my heart for htc just a shame this whole mess may have put me off this time round.
Come next week when I can upgrade I'm 90% sure I'll order the samsung note partly for the reasons above and partly because it is such a sweet device despite the PenTile display which is not noticeable, trust me
oh and dont go for the gnexus if you use any games what so ever the gpu is crap and the main reason I switching (missing my psx gaming fun)
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so you saying the nexus is not worth swapping this one for then?

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so you saying the nexus is not worth swapping this one for then?
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No way mate ..... dont get me wrong the nexus is very nice and there's more custom roms than you can shake a stick at but the camera is well.... **** and the gpu is shameful I found games really struggle to the point i dont bother now as much pity really .........

I game on my gnex and it doesnt lag??? And the camera is decent aswell especialy video www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePfy25sS0Yo&feature=player_embedded
And at the min gaming on the ox isnt awesome YET just see the genral section thread created already

Best thing to do is go to a shop and test the devices and decide.
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well i am sticking with my htc one x for now...the more i hold it the more i am falling in love with it....it was the same when i had my galaxy s2..was scared to root it in the start but once it was done i could not stop flashing..same with the HOX. once i get my grey replacement that would be it for me...hate it or love it this phone does grow on you and no matter what flaws i still would recommend it

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I game on my gnex and it doesnt lag??? And the camera is decent aswell especialy video www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePfy25sS0Yo&feature=player_embedded
And at the min gaming on the ox isnt awesome YET just see the genral section thread created already
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What about GTA for starters? Id say anything thats abit better than the norm and your screwed :/

Right. I'm going to go into the 3 store to play with a galaxy note, along side my One X and compare them in real life usage tomorrow.
Real life usage, not stats on paper, not benchmarks, just what feels best. C'mon HTC don't fail me after 4 years of brand dedication.
Report back tomorrow peeps.
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Let me know how that goes. If my One X replacement still has issues I might swap for a Note too.

I've used both nexus and note. Of the two the note is far better. After a day, the size is no issue. Plus the screen looks great, battery from what I've seen is good, but there is noticeable scrolling lag when compared to the one x.
That being said, the slight lag is not bad enough to deter someone. My dad loves his note
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Galaxy note or Gnexus..

x5starguerillaa said:
Right. I'm going to go into the 3 store to play with a galaxy note, along side my One X and compare them in real life usage tomorrow.
Real life usage, not stats on paper, not benchmarks, just what feels best. C'mon HTC don't fail me after 4 years of brand dedication.
Report back tomorrow peeps.
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Isn't the Note still running Gingerbread. So performance might not be as smooth as iCS.
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Thinking about buy?

For months I've been trying to upgrade. (At&t straight talk etc.) I was going to buy an old my touch 4g slide put it on straight talk but right now its hard to find. So the HTC one v is it worth it (cdma version) would I enjoy it more the I enjoyed my ov? Do you think more roms will be made? Tough decision seeing as I work at lil ceazers not making much lol. So big question is it a good phone?
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I know there's some awesome devs like jmz working in the CDMA side, but until htc releases the source it'll be slow going.
I came to the OneV from an optimus v, and i love this phone way more. Even if you look at just the hardware, it's a big step up (or at least it feels like it).
If you're planning on doing straight talk, that's GSM not CDMA. Only the virgin mobile OneV is CDMA.

Would you say its worth the upgrade then?
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I was waiting for the price to go down, but I bit the bullet based on 3 things:
1. the screen! one look at the fonts and I was in love!
2. ICE CREAM SANDWICH!
3. The development! In a span of 3 months this community/devs have done a wonderful job in showcasing the future of this phone!

I don't want to come off as too negative about this phone, as it is very beautiful and I would probably buy it again. So just be aware that this post is mostly focusing on the negatives.
While single core 1ghz isn't the fastest around, it is fast enough for an android phone. In fact I noticed no significant speed difference to my 1,5ghz dualcore Sensation. And HTC even released a 600mhz phone this year, the desire C. In my experience the utility of more CPU power in android phones maxes out at around 1 ghz. More CPU power and screen real estate just means lower battery life. And the battery life on this thing is pretty much the best you're going to find in the ICS camp. With many of the big-and-fast alternatives, if you're actually using it you're not going to take that many steps away from the charger.
That being said, at the moment I'm slightly pissed off about some aspects of this phone. That's mostly because it feels like a repackaged 2010 phone. It is very pretty with the aluminum unibody and all, compared to this even new high end devices look cheap and plasticy. But you have to like the design, because it's not the most cost-effective hardware. There are a few year-old android phones around with the same hardware, that you can get used for like 100 bucks less, and most of them come with a full list of polished ICS custom roms. With the One V you pay extra for the design and for getting ICS out of the box. And that's not even of much use if you're capable of installing a custom rom.
I bit the bullet because I was running out of other options that fit my preferences. I wanted a three-button setup, and less than 4", and pretty much all alternatives in that camp seem to have some crippling flaw, like crappy battery life or nonexistent GPS capabilities or a really mirrory screen. So far I haven't noticed any flaws on the V, except for the inexplicable button and usb-plug placement, and that the front speaker is really quiet. But most importantly, since it's a new phone, and a non-high-end device, custom rom availability is only just starting to build up. For example there is still no way to get real status bar toggles, which my first smartphone from 2009 with Cyanogen 6 could do.
In the end it comes down to whether you like the design, or whether you care about raw specs more. I'm just not as interested in counting cpu cores, so it's fine for me. Don't get me wrong, it runs perfectly smooth. But it is just 400mhz up from a Legend.
If you like the nose and the aluminum unibody, and prefer a not-too-huge phone, then go for it. But if you are looking for the most price-effective hardware, then buy something used with the same capabilities. You just have to be aware that you pay extra for the fancy design here.

When I was buying I was between One V and Samsung Galaxy S advance...they were similary priced on my carrier.
I choose One V becouse of this comunity and development going on around ICS at the moment, and "S advance" is stuck on 2.3.6. without much hacks to choose.
I was wrong anyway. ICS look great but it lag on this phone like hell. Anyone buying should realy try it first. I mean my girlfriend's crappy LG optimus L3 is a ferrari compared to this. And it gets worse...HTC specification is a LIE. True specs are 2gb ROM/ 1gb user available, cca 365 mb RAM ?!?
Camera looks more like 3MP. with 5Mp mode you get only bigger sized pictures and vid's but cannot capture more detail...like upscaled 3mp camera.
ONE V specs look like leftovers from desire series with a new outer shell. If I've got 2nd chance to choose a phone I'd rather go for a used Desire series and wait for a price drop on good ICS phones simply becouse desire is snappier and One V is slooow.
Hope this helps

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When I was buying I was between One V and Samsung Galaxy S advance...they were similary priced on my carrier.
I choose One V becouse of this comunity and development going on around ICS at the moment, and "S advance" is stuck on 2.3.6. without much hacks to choose.
I was wrong anyway. ICS look great but it lag on this phone like hell. Anyone buying should realy try it first. I mean my girlfriend's crappy LG optimus L3 is a ferrari compared to this. And it gets worse...HTC specification is a LIE. True specs are 2gb ROM/ 1gb user available, cca 365 mb RAM ?!?
Camera looks more like 3MP. with 5Mp mode you get only bigger sized pictures and vid's but cannot capture more detail...like upscaled 3mp camera.
ONE V specs look like leftovers from desire series with a new outer shell. If I've got 2nd chance to choose a phone I'd rather go for a used Desire series and wait for a price drop on good ICS phones simply becouse desire is snappier and One V is slooow.
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Lol its not ics its sense 4.0 , and plus I don't see any lag anywhere on this other then the settings.
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It's android 4.03 under that sense ui. Find someone who has older android phone 2.3.x,even a bad one, and compare. It's true that you only feel that lag in multitasking and browsing...like pinch to zoom etc...but also scroll between screens is a big delay
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For me cm9, nonsense rom and even suprimo 4.1 made it respond faster but still not even comparable to 2.3.x devices

the HTC One V is a HORRIBLE PHONE! You will NOT be able to hear anyone you talk to, mine has been like this since new and all sound lvls are maxed...im forced to use the crappy loud speaker....i will never suggest a HTC phone to anyone since im locked into a 3 year with this crappy phone..

i guess it all comes from what phone you come from and your budget. i came from a huawei ascend (junk) i love this phone! My wife had a huawei ascend 2 (junk) and i got her on of these and she loves it. I am rooted and running a custom rom, she is rooted and running stock with no bloat. i am sure there are many phones out there that are better than this one, but for our carrier and budget, we can't beat it!

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the HTC One V is a HORRIBLE PHONE! You will NOT be able to hear anyone you talk to, mine has been like this since new and all sound lvls are maxed...im forced to use the crappy loud speaker....i will never suggest a HTC phone to anyone since im locked into a 3 year with this crappy phone..
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the HTC One V is a HORRIBLE PHONE! You will NOT be able to hear anyone you talk to, mine has been like this since new and all sound lvls are maxed...im forced to use the crappy loud speaker....i will never suggest a HTC phone to anyone since im locked into a 3 year with this crappy phone..
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hell if u think its a crappy phone then u dont deserve to be here.....love what you have!

[Q] Buying a Nitro now? Good or Bad?

Hi comrades! I was wondering if I should sell my HTC Vivid (Development has stopped for good) and pick up a used nitro off ebay, or should I invest in a Atrix HD, Note, or One X?. I see you guys have some talented devs at work and the Nitro's hardware is pretty kickbutt. So I'm pretty tempted too! Thanks in advance btw!

I've had my nitro for about two months now. Its a decent phone (I came from Galaxy Vibrant) but the responsiveness of the screen is definitely not responsive enough for me. I'm on the official ICS also.
If you're into flashing a bunch of different roms then this phone might not be for you. There are only a handful of devs making/porting roms here. Not that they aren't doing great, I just like to have a ROM buffet . I ordered a Gnex which should arrive tomorrow due to its dev support.
If you can get past lack of support (compared to the vibrant anyways, I'm not bashing the devs here at all) and slightly less responsive touch screen then this phone is decent.
Soo my only gripes about the phone:
Not as much development compared to phones like gnex or vibrant
Touch isn't as responsive compared to my old vibrant
Battery life ain't the best (I'm on extended so that helps a lot)
Pros:
IPS display is great.
Speaker is loud.
Camera is nice
Small community so you recognize most people here
Hardware is nice
I hope that helped!
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Don't get any phone with a pentile display unless it is the Galaxy 3. My Optimus LTE screen is just as responsive as the Galaxy 2/ Infuse. They probably use the same tech.
At the going rate for unlocked Nitrous, it.is the best buy right now if you don't need quad core. There is plenty of promising dev support, and rooting is easy.
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Nitro is a decent phone. Im still deciding whether or not to go back to the amaze as a backup or keep the nitro.
The touch response is pretty slow, but maybe its more sensative to being covered up with a screen protector.
Its a pretty smooth phone seems to task pretty well. The camera... well i hatevto say it but its awful.
A real let down considering lg 's firsy true flagship had such a killer camera on it.
Could be just the software i dunno.
Battery although most people say it sucks seems normal which .... sucks.
The screen is awesome, really nice i think on par with the one x. And yeah if your going to go with sammy get the gs3 all the other screens including the note are just garbage, that is unless you prefer over saturated unatural colors.
Im actually waiting for the note2.
Rumor its going to have a better screen than gs3.
This is a nice every day or backup phone.
Is it a beast? Hardly.
But i will say this the lg skin is pretty close to aosp.
Dont pay more than 250- 300.
I got mine for 225.
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Compared to any non-HD screen phone, the battery life will suck especially if you have a lot of screen on time. Standby time in CM9 or CM10 is excellent though.
After owning, developing for, and having hardware issues with my Nitro before, I can't recommend this phone unless your getting it on the cheap. The hardware issue I had was the microphone stopped working and people couldn't hear me. (It wasn't a ROM issue).
With that said, I have heard bad things from Galaxy Nexus owners as well, such as it overheats. I haven't had my Nitro overheat before but it certainly gets hot if your playing a game on it for an hour. LG needs to work on their quality though, I think many of us believed that the Nitro being a flagship phone at the time would be of higher quality but I really don't believe the manufacturing quality is up to that of Samsung or HTC.
I admit I am nitpicking considering I use this phone every day and it works well for everything I need.

I got two for a penny each....pretty Damn happy with my purchase
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As others have said, unless you can get this phone for $50 or less on contract, don't bother. The development community is tiny, there is a huge lack of quality, stable ROMs, battery life is mediocre if you like to use the screen a lot, and the touchscreen isn't that responsive.
I'm getting rid of this phone and upgrading when my contract permits. I was really on the fence about upgrading to the Galaxy Nexus, but decided to keep the Nitro for the time being since it does have a really nice screen.

Honestly. I would get something else. Screen is great. But that's about it. I would get the note because development is great. The one x is growing fast. But the Atrix HD is just getting started.
Depends on if you like an arsenal of roms to flash.

Just got the gnex..
It's amazing. Performance is great, ROM support is great and I love the customizable ness of it. I could change the onscreen buttons and all that.
The only things I miss from nitro HD is the screen and SD card but I can live without those. Nitro HD screen beats the gnex screen hands down but its not enough for me to stay with it.
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cool, glad that's settled, now we need to get a mod to delete this thread because I've been planning to sell my nitro for$250+ when the note 2 comes out shortly.

scott0 said:
cool, glad that's settled, now we need to get a mod to delete this thread because I've been planning to sell my nitro for$250+ when the note 2 comes out shortly.
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Good luck with that, I've had my Nitro posted up for less than that and nobody was interested even after a month.

996gt2 said:
Good luck with that, I've had my Nitro posted up for less than that and nobody was interested even after a month.
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same here ive had it on CL(Craiglist) For a week at $225-235 no interest what so ever. But i Dont wanna go under $200

i was joking, i have no intentions of getting rid of my nitro any time soon, it does everything i need a phone to do just fine.

Well im glad your faith in the device is strong!!!!!!!
Didn't wanna get rid of it till i had my One X. But i dumped that phone today for a quick $200

Exchanged HTC one for s4 OMG AMAZING

Ok so I have had the s3 and the note 2 prior to switching to t-mobile, when I switched I figured id get the HTC one since I didnt or wouldnt have had that option with verizon, I must say I hated the phone. The hardware is nice dont get me wrong but the software SUCKS. The camera SUCKS. even the camera software is no were near as nice and useful as it is on the S4. I am so friggin happy with the s4 I dont know why I thought I would like the One. It may be the best device in the world for some but Id have to say to go from a samsung to an HTC Is like going backwards, and I even thought the gestures and smart scroll and all that would be to gimmicky and never get used but honestly, I love it!
Anyway, I just had to vent this. There were so many things wrong with sense in my opinion and if I can make anyones choice easier and allow them to be satisfied then hope I helped.

Lol.
Welcome to amazing world of samsung.
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bikrame said:
Lol.
Welcome to amazing world of samsung.
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Well, like I said I had the S3 and then the note 2. The note 2 being the phone I had about a month ago before we switched to t-mobile. lets just say I was going through some serious withdrawals having the note 2

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Well, like I said I had the S3 and then the note 2. The note 2 being the phone I had about a month ago before we switched to t-mobile. lets just say I was going through some serious withdrawals having the note 2
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Lol. Welcome back then lol
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A friend of mine at work just got the HTC One and I must say, yes hardware wise it's a nice looking phone and the speaker quality is the best around no question. Other than that, the software was Meh, no 4.2.2. Thank God I went with the GS4, made the right decision.

A lot of people probably hate TouchWiz too until they got used to it. Count me as one of them (well actually, I didn't hate it). For me, I'm a Samsung guy and have had in succession the Note 2, S3, and now S4. A family member of mine has the Nexus 4 and while the phone was so debloated, so stock, I felt it was missing so many features. Yes, some people will love it that way, no bloat and pure Android. I'm so used to TW and all its (fancy) features, I feel any other phone is not as powerful if they don't have the same features.
Obviously, Sense is a different launcher/style than a lot of us are used too (by us, I mean the Samsung folks). That doesn't mean it's horrible. I for one would love to try out the Sense theme, if I can get my hands on an HTC One. I'm all in for new/different features - like Windows 8. A lot of people hated it from the start because it was so different, so not intuitive they say. In response, I have to say, get used to it before making the judgment. It's taken me a couple months just to get used to Windows 8. Certainly, the Metro I don't care with, and would prefer Win7. Until I can do the same thing with Sense, I can't say whether the difference with TW makes it better, worse, or it's just different than TW.

I feel you made the wrong choice. Those additional features will only be used for showing off and you only have about 8 GB of storage compared to about 28 on the one. Speakers are the best and I'm sure HTC will do a good job pushing out updates. Lastly, the one's screen is better and not as big so it is easier to use. I was going to get the s4 at first but then I asked myself what I really wanted. That's why I routed for the one
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I feel you made the wrong choice. Those additional features will only be used for showing off and you only have about 8 GB of storage compared to about 28 on the one. Speakers are the best and I'm sure HTC will do a good job pushing out updates. Lastly, the one's screen is better and not as big so it is easier to use. I was going to get the s4 at first but then I asked myself what I really wanted. That's why I routed for the one
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Good for you, I'm happy I had an sd slot so i can switch from my 64gb to my 32gb where I store my movies to my 16gb where I have my tv shows. Am also glad I am able to have an extra battery in case I will be able from my charger for an extended period of time. But if you dont like having those options then good for you!
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Dont turn this into a One vs S4 thread, both phones are amazing. I'm a Samsung guy and i fell in love with the One, as long as you're happy with your phone then its all gravy. This thread is kinda pointless too btw.

To each their own.
Me personally, neither phone could sway me away from the N2.
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Neither phone impressed me. Samsung pulled an apple trick it's the same freaking phone! HTC did the same thing, no removable battery and no expandable memory! I'm waiting for the S5 or the next Gnex. Just my 2cents. Meanwhile I'm wearing out my S2.
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bigox said:
Neither phone impressed me. Samsung pulled an apple trick it's the same freaking phone! HTC did the same thing, no removable battery and no expandable memory! I'm waiting for the S5 or the next Gnex. Just my 2cents. Meanwhile I'm wearing out my S2.
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Honestly, if the htc had expandable memory and removable battery I might, MIGHT, have gone with the one. It really is a beautiful phone and I would love to have those front facing speakers. But for me no exp memory and nonremovable batt = fail
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Plastic and about 8 Gb of storage = fail
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Plastic and about 8 Gb of storage = fail
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Metal phone with a plastic case and no expandable memory/battery = epic fail
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Why all the hate?? We're all here for the same reasons, regardless of what phones we choose to buy. Different things are better for different people.

dandiele said:
Ok so I have had the s3 and the note 2 prior to switching to t-mobile, when I switched I figured id get the HTC one since I didnt or wouldnt have had that option with verizon, I must say I hated the phone. The hardware is nice dont get me wrong but the software SUCKS. The camera SUCKS. even the camera software is no were near as nice and useful as it is on the S4. I am so friggin happy with the s4 I dont know why I thought I would like the One. It may be the best device in the world for some but Id have to say to go from a samsung to an HTC Is like going backwards, and I even thought the gestures and smart scroll and all that would be to gimmicky and never get used but honestly, I love it!
Anyway, I just had to vent this. There were so many things wrong with sense in my opinion and if I can make anyones choice easier and allow them to be satisfied then hope I helped.
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It's interesting, I recently purchased a TMO Galaxy S4 coming from a 2.5 year old HTC Sensation and I have *almost the exact opposite experience. The hardware (screen, form factor - obviously - it's just plain insane) and the camera software/interface is top notch! But the remainder of the experience felt like I was put back onto some odd looking, super sized font version of froyo - and not just by looks, I immediately noticed a drop in usability in some key aspects of the OS (e.g. email, sms, dialer, launcher) vs what I had gotten used to with HTC Sense.
Either way, not trying to be a troll. It's funny what we get used to and come to expect based on past experiences. The S4 will have to go back (thanks TMO return policy!) and it's gonna be me and the "old" HTC Sensation for a while longer. (I'd get the HTC One, but have to agree - no SD cards slot? wtf lol)
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But it has 32gbs
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Towle said:
Why all the hate?? We're all here for the same reasons, regardless of what phones we choose to buy. Different things are better for different people.
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Don't know but it is entertaining
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Have both the One and the S4, use the s4 more than the one. Thinking if I should just still the One.
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sensati13 said:
It's interesting, I recently purchased a TMO Galaxy S4 coming from a 2.5 year old HTC Sensation and I have *almost the exact opposite experience. The hardware (screen, form factor - obviously - it's just plain insane) and the camera software/interface is top notch! But the remainder of the experience felt like I was put back onto some odd looking, super sized font version of froyo - and not just by looks, I immediately noticed a drop in usability in some key aspects of the OS (e.g. email, sms, dialer, launcher) vs what I had gotten used to with HTC Sense.
Either way, not trying to be a troll. It's funny what we get used to and come to expect based on past experiences. The S4 will have to go back (thanks TMO return policy!) and it's gonna be me and the "old" HTC Sensation for a while longer. (I'd get the HTC One, but have to agree - no SD cards slot? wtf lol)
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I've had a similar and also slightly different experience. I also came from an HTC Sensation which I've had for about 2 years, previously owned the og Galaxy S (Vibrant), and instead of the S4 I chose the HTC one, and got the GS4 for my wife instead.
Here are my observations since I actually have both phones and can compare them with NO bias...
-A lot of the online mainstream reviews you'll read between the two hit the nail on the head. The One imo is a better "phone". It does indeed have less features then the S4 (although many of them are gimmicks like the eye scrolling/tracking, airview, and a few others) but the speakers are far superior, which obviously aids for anyone who ever uses speakerphone or plays music and videos, the call quality is also a little better, the phone is more fluid and faster than the GS4 with basic functions like scrolling screens etc, and the phone of course has a MUCH more "premium" feel. Sense 5 is MUUUUUCH better than past versions of Sense and like a lot of review say, it *DOES* improve over stock android in actual useful features. The look is subjective of course but it's flat, useful and fast, and to me that's all that matters. The camera is better than any past smartphone I've ever used (Tmobile Dash>G1>Vibrant>Sensation>One) so I like it personally, but compared to its rivals like the GS4 I guess it's not the best, but does everything I've ever asked of it VERY well so no complaints from me.
The GS4 on the other hand has a superior camera. The camera on the One isn't bad at all, and kills the Gs4 in low light conditions and the aspect ratio and wide lense captures waaay more in each frame, but the GS4 has more camera features, packs a crapload more detail in each shot, has some pretty useful camera modes the One doesn't have, and is just generally better. The Galaxy might not be made of aluminum like the one, but it's lighter and imo actually feels better in my hand (without a case). Once you add a case in the mix, hand feel is null and void obviously but if you like to go commando the Gs4 feels better and will probably hold up to abuse better than the One due to the polycarbonate body and gorilla glass 3. The screen on the Galaxy is bigger than the One while the actual phone altogether is lighter and smaller so that's pretty nice, but it's not really THAT noticeable to be honest. One huge, huge advantage the Galaxy has over the One is removable storage and battery, which *USED* to be a deal breaker for me back in the day, but I've learned to live without them since I got my One, so either way it's a definite advantage but I guess how much so is up to the user. The Galaxy also has native quick settings built in which the one doesn't have (yet), so minor issue but another positive for the galaxy.
As far as negative for each, I'm actually on my second One already. Somehow my camera lense glass cracked even though I keep the phone in case and have never dropped it or bumped it. It just appeared one day in addition to the top speaker grill starting to separate from the body. Weird, but I got it replaced and the replacement is doing fine and actually stands up to overclocking and undervolting better than my old unit, so that made me pretty happy lol. That's really the only issue I've had with mine, but on the whole, the phone is definitely more fragile than the Galaxy WITHOUT a case. It scratches easier, dents, chips, etc...while the Galaxy doesn't.
The Galaxy feels better in hand (caseless) than the One, but it's slippery as hell and slides around easily and can be more prone to being dropped. Again, only an issue without a case, but this is my observation.
Touchwiz...personally I think it's a mess. I don't care for the look, as many have said it feels like your still running Gingerbread 2.3. The look hasn't changed much since I had a Vibrant running Touchwiz from 3 years ago, and while Touchwiz DOES have some unique features and generally does more than Sense and stock android...it's just ugly as hell while doing so lol. The Galaxy also does feel a tad slower and microstutters every so often while the One is almost always fluid and seems much smoother even tho it's running a newer version of android and has slightly better specs on hardware...it just doesn't "feel" like it. Other than that it's a fantastic phone and we haven't had any problems with it whatsoever unlike the One.
Between the two...if I just had to pick one, it's a toss up. I prefer my One honestly but I can see the advantages of the Galaxy S4 with it having more features so I'll just break it down like this...
Usefuleness as an actual phone
One>S4
Camera
GS4>One
In hand feel, portability
One=GS4
Usefulness as a multimedia device
GS4=One
Expandability
GS4>One
I will say that between the two if this even matters to anyone...I get WAAAAAY more props and questions and even jealous stares directed towards the One lol...