[Q]GPS Not Working - Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
My GPS stopped working.
After much research and several tests, changing radio\RIL, stock rom.... could not get the GPS working.
Some time ago, after a long time just picking up one satellite, now does not get any.
Is there any tool or application to test the hardware?
Thanks.

rom do you use?

I noticed this with CM7.1.
The stock rom I tested was the latest 2.3.5 OTA.

Try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17081413

Hi,
I tried this with the stock rom and did not work.
I tried with CM7.1 and still not show any satellite.
Sugestions?
Just for the record:
Radio - 27.14.04.28_M

Have the same issue
I like Cyanogen 7.1, but it seems that the gps doesn't work on DHD. Too bad, because it is a really good rom. I have radio 26.10.04.03_M. The same thing as described by others happen:
I turn on the gps, it start searching, and then it stops and the icon disappears even that the gps is still showed as being turned on

My case is different.
Worked for me several months without problems, and fast.
But stop working.

Someone?
I've tried modifying hardware (antenna), changing to stock rom, tried some different radios, editing gps.conf....
I do not know what else to do.
Anyone know some software to test the GPS hardware?

Have you tried changing the NTP servers?

Changing the NTP servers is part of the link spikey001 posted.
Have you tried flashing agps? I haven't got a thread to point you too but there is one in the DHD ROM section. There are about 6 different gps things you can flash, hopefully one of them will work.

jonhyxda said:
My case is different.
Worked for me several months without problems, and fast.
But stop working.
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You mention that your GPS used to work. Have you recently dropped your phone? It's possible that the GPS antenna contacts might not actually be making contact anymore (either through trauma or just plain old age)? If none of the SW fixes get your GPS working then perhaps you might actually have to do a HW mod?
See this thread for a HW fix: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318892
Don't worry, it's not as scary as it looks!

Hi,
sounds like what mine did.
Tried software and even made the fysical contact better for the gps-module itself.
No luck.
The solution for me was to buy a new gps-module on ebay for 5-10 us$.
Worked like a charm.
Good luck!!

Thanks for all the help.
RED_
I've tried the agps reset/download and no luck.
mrlooneytoon
The phone did not fall, just stopped working.
I've tried the HW fix but did not work, still no satellites.
tvetkalle
I can not find the gps-module on Ebay, can you help me?

same issue after upgrading to...
same thing happened to me after upgrading to ICS rom and since am not using it that much, just ignored it and wait for the devs to fix it...now waiting for the wifi fix of blackout ICS

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Desire Froyo 2.2 update. GPS fix issues.

Hello All.
I know this has been covered a little before through the search but im still after some advice.
I "upgraded" from my n85 to the HTC desire last week. I imediatly got the 2.2 update on there OTA and all was well and good. However i appear to be having issues with regards to getting a gps fix.
A-GPS apears to work fine and i can get a position on googlemaps within a a min. All well and good if it actually showed my proper location. So im sat there waiting for a gps fix. I.e. last night i was sat there for 10 mins on the moors in the car, frweezing my knackers off, and still nothing!
Sooo
if i reboot the phone i can get a gps fix within a min or so. But i have to do this if i want to use the gps which seems a bit rubbish to be frank and ive got the iphone boys laughing at me because theres fixes straight away.
So what am i doing wrong? how can i get a good fix from the off? Its spoiling anotherwise good phone.
I have this problem in Google Navigation also. As you say, after rebooting the phone it finds a fix pretty much straight away.
This is my biggest annoyance with the phone right now and I hope they fix it soon. Prior to 2.2 I didn't have this problem at all so I am sure it is a software problem.
Hmm i'm afraid there is nothing really to fix. My Desire gets a GPS-Fix out of any situation straight away within 3-5 seconds (outdoors of course)...
Maybe a different radio would sort out this problem? I`ve heard talk of different radios being better for some and not for others, Trial and error I supose.
O and my GPS fix seems rather slow too.
I also have significant delays in getting a GPS fix. I do not recall if it was the same behavior before I did the HTC OTA FroYo update.
I also notice that I never get very good "signal strength" (as measured with the app GPS Test) from any of the satellites, even when I DO have a fix.
Hello.
I recently bought a secondhand HTC Desire and I am having the same issue.
It has stock 2.2 on it and it can not get any GPS fix whatsover.
I have tried rebooting, taking sd card out and back in, taking sim card out and back in, etc. without any luck.
I have tried apps such as GPS Status, GPS essentials and GPS Test and they all either are stuck at searching for ever or show 0 visable and 0 used satellites.
How can I fix this issue? It is rather important. If I install one of the various custom 2.3 ROMs will it fix the issue?
There isn't Desire with vanilla Android. If it has stock FroYo, then it's custom ROM.
Terepin said:
There isn't Desire with vanilla Android. If it has stock FroYo, then it's custom ROM.
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Sorry, my mistake.
I meant it has the official 2.2 Froyo with HTC Sense as far I can tell. The previous owner must have upgraded it to that.
Anyway, is there any way to get my GPS working?
Try to root, s-off then update the radio to the latest. Search the forums for info on how to do that. It's rather easy if you're a little versed with computers.
TVTV said:
Try to root, s-off then update the radio to the latest. Search the forums for info on how to do that. It's rather easy if you're a little versed with computers.
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Done. Still doesn't work.
That's weird. It may be a hardware issue, then. Get GPS Status from the Market, install it and see what's going on under the hood. Does the phone "see" the satellites but can't get a fix or does it not "see" any satellites at all?
its not difficult understand if there is an hardware fault or not
run the latest froyo ruu, go out of ur house, enable internet connection, enable gps, open gmaps...after few seconds u should get ur exactly position with a possible error of 1/2 meters
if even after some minutes, and even in different locations/city, it doesn't show ur correct position, call htc and sent it to service with warranty.
solved
0 satellites seen and 0 satellite fixes.
According to the previous owner it didn't have the GPS problem before the 2.2 ota update, which would make me think it is software related.
Never trust the seller. Of course he/she will not admit that the product they've sold you has/has had issues. I would return it, to be honest.

[GUIDE/FIX] Potential fix for GPS issues with some ROMs

If your GPS isn't working with your new ROM, then try this method. It has worked for me for every ROM I've used with a problem connecting to GPS. I've seen the problem posted in several ROM threads, and instead of posting it in each one and having it get lost in the hundreds of pages of posts, I figured I'd start a new one which might be searched for a little more easily.
- Open 'Settings' and go to 'Applications'. Choose 'Manage Applications'.
- Choose 'Running Apps'
- Find the 'Maps' app and open it. Click 'Force Stop' and choose 'Clear Data'.
- Go back to your app drawer and open 'Maps'. It will have you check off the disclaimers. Close it after you have done this.
- Open your 'Navigation' app and check off the disclaimers there. It should connect after that.​
Like I said, this has worked for every ROM I've tried with a problem connecting to GPS. I don't know why it works, but it does.
tags: gps not working, gps won't connect, gps issue, broken GPS
Didn't solve my GPS issue...which is that it doesn't toggle on what so ever.
Each new nightly I flash, I have to push an old gps.vision.so in order to get my gps to toggle on and off again.
Thanks anyway.
edit: No app on the market will make my GPS work...That is the type of GPS problem that I and some others are having.
try install the gpxfix or gps status from the market.. work well for me..
Same here...this didnt help.
Also installing GPS status did not help either.
As discussed in the nightlies thread, Cyanogen presumeably updated a crucial library responsible, among other, for GPS functionality which requires the/a new radio.
This also could explain why some users while having identical devices to other users do have GPS while others dont. They simply did upgrade the radio already earlier while the ones which are stuck with a bon-working GPS didnt and are still on the original radio, an "old" one in regards to the prerequisites of the "new" library added to the build.
Makes sense?
schaggo said:
As discussed in the nightlies thread, Cyanogen presumeably updated a crucial library responsible, among other, for GPS functionality which requires the/a new radio.
This also could explain why some users while having identical devices to other users do have GPS while others dont. They simply did upgrade the radio already earlier while the ones which are stuck with a bon-working GPS didnt and are still on the original radio, an "old" one in regards to the prerequisites of the "new" library added to the build.
Makes sense?
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Yep...this is 100% correct.
And for what its worth, I went a head and flashed the new radio again just too see if in fact it does fix the GPS and yes it does.
Back to the T-Mobile US OTA radio and the gps.vision.so from Nightly #4 or earlier.
not 100% correct, i have the new radio and still have the gps problem... i've seen at least one other person with the same.
But i'm using a Bell Desire Z, maybe thats why
evilive27 said:
not 100% correct, i have the new radio and still have the gps problem... i've seen at least one other person with the same.
But i'm using a Bell Desire Z, maybe thats why
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Did you happen to use the app 'GPS Status' to check your gps after you upgraded? If not, what was the first gps application that you opened after you upgraded to CM7, if you can remember?
Scratch that....just reflashed the radio and nightly 13. Gps works a charm now! Thanks
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Im on the stock ROM and have a problem. I think the GPS on these phones are messed up big time. Here is my problem.
stock rom with ota update and ota update radio= no GPS AT ALL it will just stick there blinking tryin to get a fixed signal but it wont! Happens in alll my GPS app not just maps.
So I downgraded my radio to the pre-ota one and GPS gets a fix but takes a minute or so.. after that I can leave the app and come back and itll refix itself within 5 seconds (what it should be normally).. So even downgraded I still have slight issues with gps.. plus for some reason if I loose signal for more than 5 mins on this radio it wont ever get a signal unless I reboot.
Im going to try your method but dont think itll work since my problem is not Maps specific.
EDIT: this seems to have worked, even on my the ota radio. I just dont understand why Maps would break GPS for all apps. Funny things is when something like this usually happens I clear app data but didnt do it here because it was all my GPS apps.
I'm glad it has worked for a couple people anyway. I don't know what the problem is that causes this, but it has worked on the ROMs I've flashed, so I figured it might be a good step to take before updating radios and things like that. Just in case the solution is as simple as just stopping Maps and clearing the data... If you have done more modification to your phone beyond just flashing ROMs, then this may not work for you since the problem may be bad radios or other issues. If you are just a ROM flasher without tweaking too much else, then this may solve your problemo.
evilive27 said:
not 100% correct, i have the new radio and still have the gps problem... i've seen at least one other person with the same.
But i'm using a Bell Desire Z, maybe thats why
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And I have the old radio, and never had a gps issue. Maybe not all the batches in the factory has the same chip, ic whatever?
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I used to not have GPS issues either - european Desire Z btw - having said that, CM7 #14 breaks with that uuhm... tradtion. It's the first build giving me no GPS unless a new-ish (the 26.04 and 26.06 works) radio is flashed.
So wat is the new radio, I recently flashed a different radio but I'm not sure if its the latest radio out. Thx
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New to this, can some on explain how to find an old radio and flash it? I am using CM9 build 78.. my GPS hasnt worked for any rom ive used since rooting..
dannynyc said:
New to this, can some on explain how to find an old radio and flash it? I am using CM9 build 78.. my GPS hasnt worked for any rom ive used since rooting..
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Follow the instructions in this thread. Flash the updater and then the efs wipe tool through recovery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1632482

Problems with google maps, he remains paralyzed searching gps..

like the thread title says i have this problem.. my google maps is always "searching for gps" in the Navigation function
few threads ago i was posted a problem with GPS STATUS or GPS TEST...
They were not finding any satellite...
later with the help of @superstick1 & @blbean i was fixed it... now these apk finds even 7 satellites!!!!(often LOL)
but Navigation continues without work.... some suggestion?
i was tested:
1-reinstall the apk. (not fixed my problem)
2-erase data caché OF THE APP only (not solved my problem)
3-fix gps sat. with gps status(not solved)but 5 satellites found...
4-use FASTERFIX.apk and then restart my machine (not solved)
EDIT: ufff! i´m desperate more tries:
5-flashed another recommened rom from coredroid thread: 12.28g.60.140f_26.05.05.27_M3 (orange uk)but its weird because i´m living in spain (orange es) (NOT SOLVED MY TROUBLE)
6-flashed another kernel: from leedroid 2.2.9 to my current BUZZ 1.3.8.3 1.2 GHZ MAX(NOT SOLVED)
I AM GRATEFUL FOR YOUR HELP BOYS (OR GIRLS )
Have you tried using a different rom and/or kernel?
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Have you tried using a different rom and/or kernel?
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is the last thing that i desire to do.... because i´m a coredroid lover)
Before it wanted to try to save this rom (the one that is in my syg) in addition I have the recommended radio
more suggestions? thank´s
no one knows the problem?¿¿?
i tried that @lordvimes was recommended me, change the kernel but the problem persists now i have buzz kernel 1.3.8.3 version
Hi SERGI.3210
We meet again. Lol. I notice from my own experience that if we often reboot our phone, the GPS state will be restarted. And hence it will take some time for the GPS to work again.
For example, I have once flashed LeeDrOid' v2.2.2 in the past few months(first time), and I got a fix very quickly. It will be within 5-15 seconds? At most it will take is 30 seconds. However, after I reboot for whatever reason(I forgot, but I am not flashing anything else), and the GPS takes more time to get a fix again. The situation got worsen when I am in the car to get a fix. Took about 5-10 minutes??
But after some time, tolerating such slow fix(I know, its annoying) it suddenly get back to normal again. Which means I can get a fix very fast again.
Many has recommended the use of GPS Status app to clear A-GPS data and then download them back again. It works for them it seems, but in some to a large extent, it did not really work for me.
Maybe you can try Ulysee Gizmos app from the market? It has the capability to download A-GPS data as well. Recently I try using it and it seems to fix my problem once again. When was it? Last two days ago. Lol. Now it still work fine. Hopefully this continues.
I am still use GPS Status to get A-GPS data. Which means I am using both of them at the same time. Probably both apps does fires out some solutions? Haha. Me not sure but you can try.
Cheers mate. =)
superstick1 said:
Hi SERGI.3210
We meet again. Lol. I notice from my own experience that if we often reboot our phone, the GPS state will be restarted. And hence it will take some time for the GPS to work again.
For example, I have once flashed LeeDrOid' v2.2.2 in the past few months(first time), and I got a fix very quickly. It will be within 5-15 seconds? At most it will take is 30 seconds. However, after I reboot for whatever reason(I forgot, but I am not flashing anything else), and the GPS takes more time to get a fix again. The situation got worsen when I am in the car to get a fix. Took about 5-10 minutes??
But after some time, tolerating such slow fix(I know, its annoying) it suddenly get back to normal again. Which means I can get a fix very fast again.
Many has recommended the use of GPS Status app to clear A-GPS data and then download them back again. It works for them it seems, but in some to a large extent, it did not really work for me.
Maybe you can try Ulysee Gizmos app from the market? It has the capability to download A-GPS data as well. Recently I try using it and it seems to fix my problem once again. When was it? Last two days ago. Lol. Now it still work fine. Hopefully this continues.
I am still use GPS Status to get A-GPS data. Which means I am using both of them at the same time. Probably both apps does fires out some solutions? Haha. Me not sure but you can try.
Cheers mate. =)
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hey buddy!! how are you?!
okay i´m going to test this:
-1-clear A-GPS data of the gps status.apk AGAIN....if not solves:
-2-download Ulyse gizmos.apk and try it...if not solves:
-3-I will go to area discovered to trying... if not solves... maybe i will go to reinstall the all the apk relationed with GPS..and if it not solves that
-4-I believe that I will think of burning my DHD.. lolololololol
thank´s for you usefuls posts man..
see you soon here
EDIT: i tried to install another GPS NAVIGATOR (sygic) BUT THE PROBLEM PERSISTS... i´m really sure that the problem its that my device finds gps when he wants And if it is clouded less still
I am fine here thanks. Getting ready for work now.
In your case, the problem is nothing to do with the navigation software but your GPS cannot get a fix. It may due to hardware failure.
If the situation persist, probably you should consider sending your device to HTC for a check. But make sure you turn back your phone into normal state first. (i.e. unroot your phone)
i pretty much have the same problem ...
5+ mins to lock my position ..
RcMixHD 5.5 and a changed radio... i will just burn it..
superstick1 said:
I am fine here thanks. Getting ready for work now.
In your case, the problem is nothing to do with the navigation software but your GPS cannot get a fix. It may due to hardware failure.
If the situation persist, probably you should consider sending your device to HTC for a check. But make sure you turn back your phone into normal state first. (i.e. unroot your phone)
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with gps status and ulise gizmo, gets fix but ONLY WHEN THE DEVICE WANTS
edit:i´m going to try CM7.0.2 and test gps again but i´m Considering to take it to the technical service....
So you finally got a fix? Congrats!
Yea, try to send it to HTC for a check. By the way, again, remember to unroot your phone first before sending to them.
superstick1 said:
So you finally got a fix? Congrats!
Yea, try to send it to HTC for a check. By the way, again, remember to unroot your phone first before sending to them.
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good night buddy!!!!
i have soo good noticesx100000000000
THAKE THIS:
gps status:found 8 or 9 sat.
fixed in 62 segs.
google maps:working perfectly!
finding gps at the moment
15 meters position error max. (better than my htc hero)
THE MEDICINE:
1--Though I feel sorry very much I had that flahs another CUSTOM ROM
2--Then I´VE flashed the recommended radio and was foun 3 or 4 sat...
3--and the most important: flash the RIL for this radio in this moment i was found 8 or 9 sat.!!!
the only one thing that i don´t like (nothing nothing) is the custom rom:
RCmix 6.1.0.1 (ported from desire s)
i´m COREDROID LOVER and RCMIX seems too simple but i preffer the good performance before beauty things...
Nevertheless when it does a few kilometres and tested well the GPS I will try with Leedroid (froyo) to see if I obtain the same results
Good for you buddy!
Usually if you got a fix pretty quick, it will have errors ranging to 30-50 meters(that is from what I obverse based on my device that locks within 5-15, max 30 seconds). Then it will adjust overtime. Well, still better than doesn't get a fix at all.
Hmm.. RCMis HD6.1.0.1? The Evolutionary Sense ROM? I have not try that yet.. plan to try after my exam. Currently concentrating on my exam for this month. Also quite satisfied with my current flashed LeeDrOid v2.2.3 ROM now. Lol.
Probably will be trying Miui too. I would prefer staying with Sense ROM as there is unlikely to have Premium Navigation in Non-sense ROM. If I would to try other GPS apps, I will have to pay for it. Premium Navigation is free for life for me in Malaysia + Singapore. Also finding addresses with it is easier, unlike other GPS app.(i.e. cannot search address). Probably due to the names of addresses here. Here uses Malay names and not English.
Good for you buddy!
Usually if you got a fix pretty quick, it will have errors ranging to 30-50 meters(that is from what I obverse based on my device that locks within 5-15, max 30 seconds). Then it will adjust overtime. Well, still better than doesn't get a fix at all.
Hmm.. RCMis HD6.1.0.1? The Evolutionary Sense ROM? I have not try that yet.. plan to try after my exam. Currently concentrating on my exam for this month. Also quite satisfied with my current flashed LeeDrOid v2.2.3 ROM now. Lol.
Probably will be trying Miui too. I would prefer staying with Sense ROM as there is unlikely to have Premium Navigation in Non-sense ROM. If I would to try other GPS apps, I will have to pay for it. Premium Navigation is free for life for me in Malaysia + Singapore. Also finding addresses with it is easier, unlike other GPS app.(i.e. cannot search address). Probably due to the names of addresses here. Here uses Malay names and not English.
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i want to go back leedroid 2.2.3 me too and test gps again
certainly you tested with this ROM kalagas theme?? its so so so cool!!! see you later i'm working hhaahah
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Nope, I did not. the only thing i add on is the power widgets on my notification bar. Wanted to flash kalagas theme but decided that I will try flashing them next time in future. Once reboot later GPS cannot work again.
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Once reboot later GPS cannot work again.
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it seems the never ending story... LOL
thake this gift for your help! (pressed your thanks button) you winned it

Is my GPS broken? (running stock jellybean) - UPDATE see post 6

Ive had my phone for about 2 weeks now, and the GPS is basically unusable. It takes up to 5 mins to get a lock, and sometimes it just never gets one. Even when it does, its not very accurate.
Ive read somewhere that the upgrade to jellybean caused this, and ive been running JN since i owned it, so maybe thats my problem? Anyone else experience this issue? Anyway to test if its just the software?
Id like to figure it out, so if i have to send my phone back i can. Thanks.
I think the Jellybean connection was more coincidental than anything else, since a lot of people were having GPS issues (on both ICS and JB ROMs) around the time that the JB OTA began rolling out.
Try disabling "Google's location service" in the location services setting and see if that helps. If it works, then try reenabling it and try again. That seemed to resolve the issues of most people who were having GPS issues a few weeks ago.
athakur999 said:
I think the Jellybean connection was more coincidental than anything else, since a lot of people were having GPS issues (on both ICS and JB ROMs) around the time that the JB OTA began rolling out.
Try disabling "Google's location service" in the location services setting and see if that helps. If it works, then try reenabling it and try again. That seemed to resolve the issues of most people who were having GPS issues a few weeks ago.
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With it enabled, i just get the huge circle, and it says my location is somewhere in there. With it disabled, i get "waiting for location", and then "your current location is temporarily unavailable."
Anything else i can try. Like i said before it works, but maybe 1 out of 10 times. Even if it worked half the time it would be useless. If i cant depend on it then its really not worth anything to me.
Try this GPS fix. It worked like a champ for me and many other people.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1789543
azanboy said:
Try this GPS fix. It worked like a champ for me and many other people.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1789543
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im not rooted.
Ok i just called google play, and asked what i should do. He suggested i do what ive already done (check and uncheck google services, factory reset), both of which had no effect on my GPS. He then told me that a fix should be coming out within the next few weeks, and it should fix it on all devices.
So right now im debating flashing a custom ROM like AOKP or something to see if that fixes it. Im a little worried about doing this to a phone that may be faulty in the first place though. Should i even bother, or should i just wait the few weeks for a fix. If googles OTA fix doesnt fix it back to google it goes.
another update: GPS now works (not sure what made it start), but it still takes forever to lock, and is extremely inaccurate. Usually when you use nav, itll tell you when a turn is coming etc, but the gps thought i was over 100yds behind were i actually was. Even when im in my house, it has no idea where i am, closest it can get in down to 3 houses wide.
Im having flashbacks to my captivate - which didnt work at all - but if a gps only works sometimes and when it does doesnt work very good - then its basically worthless. Am i really going to trust it when i need it?
GPS status from Google play store. Install it and let it download agps data. That should greatly increase accuracy and decrease lock time. You don't need root to use it.
Hope it helps
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fix
try this download gps test from google play run then it should fix the problem 100% worked for me

[Q] GPS will not lock on - tried different roms and stock,

Hi all, pretty much at the end of the line trying to fix this.
I bought the phone at the end of November, and immediately rooted it, S-OFF etc. The first ROM I tried was Android Revolution HD, and everything worked fine, except for the GPS. It enables, and using an app like GPS Test says I can see 27 satellites or whatever depending where I am. However, it just won't get a fix and lock on. Using Google Maps, it just says 'waiting for location', but never locks on.
So, I recently tried the ViperRom (android 4.4.4), but same issue.
So, I thought I'd put everything back to stock. I followed this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2735235, and all the flags in the bootloader look as they should. Stock ROM also.
Still no luck.
So I tried converting it to a Google Play Edition running Lollipop 5.01, using this thread and the links graffixnyc provided.
Again, everything works, but the same GPS problem.
Does anyone have any suggestions..? I can't think of anything else to do
Thanks for any help!
Following this I've tried some different radio versions to see if it makes a difference, and on some I don't pick up any satellites at all. Something to note is that GPS Test picks up satellites inside as well, which makes me think it's not actually picking anything up...
In no cases can I get a fix
If you tryed all of that... you would think its probably a hardware issue
That is what I'm thinking now, just wondering if anyone had a magic solution I hadn't thought of! Really like the phone otherwise

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