So I'm looking at GSM arena, and it says 4G Network LTE 700 (region specific) - I've googled everywhere and I can't find a list of the different versions/regions/varieties of nexus phones that are coming out. Am I just a bad googler? Or is there really no details out there showing which phone(s) sold in which countries have what bands in them?
bump. anyone's google searching better than mine is?
radi0chik said:
So I'm looking at GSM arena, and it says 4G Network LTE 700 (region specific) - I've googled everywhere and I can't find a list of the different versions/regions/varieties of nexus phones that are coming out. Am I just a bad googler? Or is there really no details out there showing which phone(s) sold in which countries have what bands in them?
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as far as i've seen there is only one GSM variation released so far and its an unlocked "european version". i have it and it works pretty well on tmobile.
Taking from Expansys a big retailer for this device currently shows:
HSPA+ 21Mbps/HSUPA 5.76Mbps 850/900/1900/1700/2100 / Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz / (Band frequency, HSPA availability, and data speed are operator dependent)
http://www.expansys-usa.com/google-nexus-prime-android-smartphone-unlocked-16gb-224148/
The Newegg listing for this device shows:
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 MHz
UMTS 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 MHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875176322
Hope that helps! Definitely a great device!
OK. Was wondering if any of the variants had both GSM and some flavor of LTE in it. Thanks for the input.
radi0chik said:
OK. Was wondering if any of the variants had both GSM and some flavor of LTE in it. Thanks for the input.
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No. Not yet. Or maybe never. There are several versions of nexus but as of now only two known variations concerning radio.
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Hi,
I was looking fot the specs at gsmarena and it says that is HSDPA 850/1700/2100 capable, but in another sites, they said that is only 1700/2100.
Can someone confirm me that please.
Thanks.
The phone`s box states it is HSDPA 850/1700/1900/2100 capable. I know data works with At&t, so it has either 850 or 1900 HSDPA frequency but i am not sure if it has both or either one.
gkaradag11 said:
The phone`s box states it is HSDPA 850/1700/1900/2100 capable. I know data works with At&t, so it has either 850 or 1900 HSDPA frequency but i am not sure if it has both or either one.
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The Thing is that Im from Claro Dominican Republic, and is only HSDPA 850, I really need to be sure in order to buy the phone.
Thanks.
Well as long as it is on the box, we should rely on that info. You should not have any problems IMO.
it does work it's been proven already by many that has travelled to Europe on 850
actually most of the Europe is on 2100, of course it depends on the carrier but like 60% of the Europe is on 2100.
Besides from Zone related releases, What are the differences on F/W?
I saw that roms and F/w are model depend on the model? And you cannot flash roms for 6503 for 6502 ?
My phone is a 6502 so just want to make sure!
The only thing that I know is c6503 and c6506 works on 4G networks LTE
But c6502 is not a 4G compatible...
I know also that c6506 is much more expensive and not available widely in every country... But why? We will see other's response
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There's two differences between the C6502, C6503, and C6506. What network frequencies they support is the main difference, with the second difference being that the C6502 has a barometer and the C6503 and C6506 don't.
C6502: UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV),
1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I)
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900
C6503: UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 2100 (Band I)
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900
LTE Band I, Band III, Band V, Band VII, Band VIII and Band XX
C6506: UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV),
1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I)
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900
LTE Band I, Band II, Band IV, Band V and Band XVII
In terms of price, the C6506 is about the same as the C6503 in america, whereas the C6502 is about $50 cheaper, the reason being that the other two have LTE, which presumably costs more to implement what with licensing fees and whatnot.
Now, the main reason you can't flash C650* specific firmware is because, as far as I know, each phone has a different chip for network radios, plus the C6502 has a barometer.
I am currently using the latest firmware 10.3.1.A.0.244 that I downloaded from cad yesterday which was c6503 specific and flashed it on my c6502. Everything works like a charm
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TheTofu said:
There's two differences between the C6502, C6503, and C6506. What network frequencies they support is the main difference, with the second difference being that the C6502 has a barometer and the C6503 and C6506 don't.
C6502: UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV),
1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I)
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900
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I got the C6502 and it doesnt have barometer. I used service test--->Pressure Sensor: "this device does not support the function"
Enomine said:
I got the C6502 and it doesnt have barometer. I used service test--->Pressure Sensor: "this device does not support the function"
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I agree. C6502 Doesn't have a Barometer.
Query on Sonymobile Forum support says it was a mistake in printing:
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z-ZL-ZR/Xperia-zl-No-pressure-sensor/td-p/313008
It was in white papers C6502, by pressure sensor i mean barometer. Its even listed in all major shoppin sites as well as sites like gsmarena.
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Ah, I understand. Unfortunately there was a mistake in the White Paper for Xperia ZL. It doesn't have a pressure sensor/barometer. The information should be updated in the WP soon.
droidvijayan said:
I agree. C6502 Doesn't have a Barometer.
Query on Sonymobile Forum support says it was a mistake in printing:
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z-ZL-ZR/Xperia-zl-No-pressure-sensor/td-p/313008
It was in white papers C6502, by pressure sensor i mean barometer. Its even listed in all major shoppin sites as well as sites like gsmarena.
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Ah, I understand. Unfortunately there was a mistake in the White Paper for Xperia ZL. It doesn't have a pressure sensor/barometer. The information should be updated in the WP soon.
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on gsm arena it says on 6502 ha barometer
bhavstech said:
on gsm arena it says on 6502 ha barometer
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Infact, Sony Xperia ZL(C6502) sold in India, doesn't even have LTE Network capability, as Marketed by Sony in Sonymobile India website.
Something seriously wrong by SONY in providing the phone specifications. We are kind of cheated by this.
http://www.sonymobile.com/in/products/phones/xperia-zl/specifications/#tabs
I have also attached the snapshot of the Xperia ZL India Website. Here is the snip.
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Memory
RAM: 2GB
Flash memory: Up to 16 GB
Expansion slot: microSD™ card, up to 32 GB
Networks
UMTS HSPA+ (Bands 1, 5, 8 or bands 1, 2, 4, 5, 8) *
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20 or bands 1, 2, 4, 5, 17)* <=========================LTE
----------------<end>---------------------------------
Indian Variant of Sony Xperia ZL has only, GSM/WCDMA only. No LTE.
droidvijayan said:
Infact, Sony Xperia ZL(C6502) sold in India, doesn't even have LTE Network capability, as Marketed by Sony in Sonymobile India website.
Something seriously wrong by SONY in providing the phone specifications. We are kind of cheated by this.
http://www.sonymobile.com/in/products/phones/xperia-zl/specifications/#tabs
I have also attached the snapshot of the Xperia ZL India Website. Here is the snip.
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Memory
RAM: 2GB
Flash memory: Up to 16 GB
Expansion slot: microSD™ card, up to 32 GB
Networks
UMTS HSPA+ (Bands 1, 5, 8 or bands 1, 2, 4, 5, 8) *
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20 or bands 1, 2, 4, 5, 17)* <=========================LTE
----------------<end>---------------------------------
Indian Variant of Sony Xperia ZL has only, GSM/WCDMA only. No LTE.
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You need to learn to read the fine print my friend, or else life will bite you in the ass over and over and over...
Here's the networks listed on the site:
Networks
UMTS HSPA+ (Bands 1, 5, 8 or bands 1, 2, 4, 5, 8) * < --- Notice the asterisk
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20 or bands 1, 2, 4, 5, 17)* < --- Notice the asterisk
Here is the fine print located DIRECTLY under the network info:
* This service is not available in all markets.
It's not very obvious, but thats the whole point of fine print.
6506 to 6503
I have a 6506 model that I bought in Canada, but I live in Brazil now.
What I want to know is:
- It's possible to use the 6503 firmware to have the 2600Mhz frequency?
Or this is something in the hardware?
droidvijayan said:
I agree. C6502 Doesn't have a Barometer.
Query on Sonymobile Forum support says it was a mistake in printing:
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z-ZL-ZR/Xperia-zl-No-pressure-sensor/td-p/313008
It was in white papers C6502, by pressure sensor i mean barometer. Its even listed in all major shoppin sites as well as sites like gsmarena.
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Ah, I understand. Unfortunately there was a mistake in the White Paper for Xperia ZL. It doesn't have a pressure sensor/barometer. The information should be updated in the WP soon.
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I can agree with this too, it doesn't have a barometer
TheTofu said:
There's two differences between the C6502, C6503, and C6506. What network frequencies they support is the main difference, with the second difference being that the C6502 has a barometer and the C6503 and C6506 don't.
Now, the main reason you can't flash C650* specific firmware is because, as far as I know, each phone has a different chip for network radios, plus the C6502 has a barometer.
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Old, old post. I was looking for the bands for every ZL and found this post. Caught my eye that you say C6502 has a barometer. I have a C6502, and it does not have one. I have checked several sites that list C6502 with a barometer, but in fact, it does not have it. Or maybe all this time I had it and I don't where it is!!!!
Found out, I already posted saying the same thing! please delete this post?
I see that the T-Mobile LTE version is available in the US on the play store. It is significantly cheaper than in the UK.
I bought the v1 WiFi nexus 7 in the US and had no issues. If I buy the LTE version from the US can I assume that I can use it on a UK mobile network without issue? I presume both are gsm and there is no issue?
Thanks
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aidanbree said:
If I buy the LTE version from the US can I assume that I can use it on a UK mobile network without issue? I presume both are gsm and there is no issue?
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Even GSM networks operate on different frequencies on different continents. LTE networks may have other frequencies than GSM networks.
I found a (german) comparisation list for LTE frequencies. For US, there are 700, 1700, 1900 and 2100 MHz listed; for UK there are 800, 1800 and 2600 MHz noted.
So, if you buy an US version, it will be useless in UK. Besides the useability, you may have to pay taxes on import, additional to p&p. Will it still be cheaper then?
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For US, there are 700, 1700, 1900 and 2100 MHz listed; for UK there are 800, 1800 and 2600 MHz noted.
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For France, same frequencies than UK.
We will use someday 700 MHz also.
Some of us are waitin 4 an Euro LTE Nexus 7.
I found something about the Nexus 7 ... on http://www.google.com/nexus/7/ .
Scroll down until you see a link "Tech Specs". Open it and scroll a bit down; all GSM, UMTS and LTE frequencies are listed for different world areas.
The US and the EU version share most LTE frequency cpabilities, but the US version can operate on 700 and 750 MHz (which the EU device can't use) while the EU one can operate on 800 and 2600 MHz (which the US device can't use).
So it depends on your carrier's frequencies if you can operate an US device in UK or not.
HSishi said:
I found something about the Nexus 7 ... on http://www.google.com/nexus/7/ .
Scroll down until you see a link "Tech Specs". Open it and scroll a bit down; all GSM, UMTS and LTE frequencies are listed for different world areas.
The US and the EU version share most LTE frequency cpabilities, but the US version can operate on 700 and 750 MHz (which the EU device can't use) while the EU one can operate on 800 and 2600 MHz (which the US device can't use).
So it depends on your carrier's frequencies if you can operate an US device in UK or not.
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My brother is over in the US next week and could therefore bring it back without P&P and most likely other charges.
In the UK the price is 320 GBP so the saving is around 100GBP with the currency conversion.
Currently I have my mobile with T-Mobile and a sim that I use in a mifi on Three. I am looking to move the Three mifi sim into the Nexus but I don't think that looks like it would work as it states they will use 800 and 1800. I presume that both frequencies are used?
The US device can't use the 800 MHz band, but the 1800. Maybe your carrier operates LTE at 1800, maybe not. Can't say that from here (Germany).
Going to take a chance. The US price for the LTE is cheaper than the WiFi only in the UK. Will advise how I get on
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Same here Czech rep, 32 gb lte is the same price than 16 gb wifi here. But i need the 3G/4G internet can't risk it i must know
Aidenbree: this is exactly what i was thinking of doing too, so thanks for asking the question! I'm also on Three and would be really interested to hear how you get on. £100 saving is worth thinking about!
are they have different hardware ?
North America:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
HSPA+: 850/900/1900/1700/2100 (AWS) MHz (Bands: 1/2/4/5/8)
LTE: 700/750/850/1700/1800/1900/2100 MHZ (Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/13/17)
Europe:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
HSPA+: 850/900/1900/1700/2100 (AWS) MHz (Bands: 1/2/4/5/8)
LTE: 800/850/1700/1800/1900/2100/2600 MHz (Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/20)
or only radio software different?
if they just use different radio, it may work by change radio
ygvuhb said:
are they have different hardware ?
North America:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
HSPA+: 850/900/1900/1700/2100 (AWS) MHz (Bands: 1/2/4/5/8)
LTE: 700/750/850/1700/1800/1900/2100 MHZ (Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/13/17)
Europe:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
HSPA+: 850/900/1900/1700/2100 (AWS) MHz (Bands: 1/2/4/5/8)
LTE: 800/850/1700/1800/1900/2100/2600 MHz (Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/20)
or only radio software different?
if they just use different radio, it may work by change radio
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Surprisingly, the radio software is the same, in fact everything software wise is identical between both devices, there is but a single firmware for both devices. I am not even sure if the US version can't technically use band 7 and vice/versa, has anyone tried to connect to a LTE network in the EU using a US LTE Nexus 7 ? Maybe those specs are just "limited" to comply with FCC/EU regulations/certifications (Paying for the CE certification for a specific frequency can be expensive)
If there is a difference then some flag must be set hardware wise to tell the radio what frequencies it can tune to.
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Surprisingly, the radio software is the same, in fact everything software wise is identical between both devices, there is but a single firmware for both devices. I am not even sure if the US version can't technically use band 7 and vice/versa, has anyone tried to connect to a LTE network in the EU using a US LTE Nexus 7 ? Maybe those specs are just "limited" to comply with FCC/EU regulations/certifications (Paying for the CE certification for a specific frequency can be expensive)
If there is a difference then some flag must be set hardware wise to tell the radio what frequencies it can tune to.
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omg
the radio is the same
seem they fix the band though hardware
any chance the software detect the mobile services provider to decide using which band