Just started using my Desire last night! Feeling good.
However...
Was just on a call, tried to use the Android Marketplace. Couldn't.
Got curious, and tried to use Google Maps mid call. Couldn't.
Tried to use the internet during the call. Couldn't.
Now, I'm on T-Mobile (UK) and have just come from a Nokia E71. With my E71 I could make a call and use Google Maps.
Am I missing something or is this bit of multitasking somehow not possible???
Please tell me I'm missing something!
Cleargrey said:
Just started using my Desire last night! Feeling good.
However...
Was just on a call, tried to use the Android Marketplace. Couldn't.
Got curious, and tried to use Google Maps mid call. Couldn't.
Tried to use the internet during the call. Couldn't.
Now, I'm on T-Mobile (UK) and have just come from a Nokia E71. With my E71 I could make a call and use Google Maps.
Am I missing something or is this bit of multitasking somehow not possible???
Please tell me I'm missing something!
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A lot of carriers don't currently support simultaneous data and voice. For example, I have Sprint and it has no support for this - very annoying.
AT&T is the only one I'm personally aware that supports both talking and using data at the same time.
If it doesn't work for you, you're out of luck with your carrier.
Archon810 said:
A lot of carriers don't currently support simultaneous data and voice. For example, I have Sprint and it has no support for this - very annoying.
AT&T is the only one I'm personally aware that supports both talking and using data at the same time.
If it doesn't work for you, you're out of luck with your carrier.
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Sprint is a CDMA network, and most CDMA networks don't currently support simultaneous voice and data.
Most GSM networks do support this when you have a 3G connection. The voice call is routed over 2G and the data over 3G. If your data connection drops down to GPRS or EDGE, you will lose data connectivity because most networks do not support simultaneous voice and data over 2G, though I'm told that they can be set up to do so, so I guess it's more down to bandwidth.
Regards,
Dave
I know that Sprint's CDMA has an issue with simultaneous data and voice. Which suck. And I know they are making good attempts to sort this out for the EVO, which is good.
But again, I've been doing this fine on my E71. The only thing I can think of, in relation to Dave's comments, is that for some reason, because the Desire can suck up more data, T-mobile have restricted it. Which would suprise me because, as Dave said, simultaneous voice and data is a feature of most GSM networks and has been for a while.
I have just tested that and it's true - the phone doesn't have simultaneous data and voice connection
Now normally I don't need that because if I talk, I talk and not browse the web, but even my freaking G1 could do both things at the same time. What the heck? It must be something HTC did.
One more reason to eagerly wait for root...
I don't see how this is a big deal. Why would you need to make a call AND browse the market place or look at maps etc? Surely it's something that can be done after the call even if it is receiving directions or whatever.
ephumuris said:
I don't see how this is a big deal. Why would you need to make a call AND browse the market place or look at maps etc? Surely it's something that can be done after the call even if it is receiving directions or whatever.
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It's a big deal because:
1. HTC (or T-Mobile) has obviously done something to disable it because Android with GSM should have such functionality;
2. Older Android phones and even some "dumbphones" have that functionality
3. No point in browsing market while talking, but what about looking up maps while talking? - That was even one of G1's selling points.
I have often been on a call and used the internet or searched Maps. So it's something that I am quite used to doing.
Though I thought I'd get an answer straight from the horses mouth and have emailed HTC support just now. I'm hoping they give me good news...
False alarm. This only happens on GPRS, which is normal. Simultaneous data and voice connection can only happen on 3G as explained in Android Forums.
and of course correctly explained by Dave in post #3 here.
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and of course correctly explained by Dave in post #3 here.
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Missed that. Sorry
ephumuris said:
I don't see how this is a big deal. Why would you need to make a call AND browse the market place or look at maps etc? Surely it's something that can be done after the call even if it is receiving directions or whatever.
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Kind of tired of explaining this one but here are the 2 use cases:
- you're talking with someone on the phone and they ask you for directions, look something up on the internet, see if you received their email, etc, etc
- and even more importantly, when my rooted phone acts as a WiFi access point with android-wifi-tether and someone calls me, my freaking Inet disappears until I'm off the phone. This is the more annoying of the 2 use cases.
Well, this was their reply:
"If you start the call being connected through 2G, then yes the internet will then work. But as soon as the signal goes over to 3G then the internet connection and usuage will be turned off.
When it comes to wifi, if you are in a call and you are connected to wifi, then you should be able to surf.
Hope this answers your questions.
Thank you for contacting HTC. "
I did get concerned for a second. I've just tried the wifi and call which worked. And I just tried a call again, with wifi turned off and it worked, even though it didn't work before.
I just hope it routes voice and data in a way that doesn't trip me up in the future. I.e. voice over 2G if I'm trying to access data.
So yes, false alarm.
And funnily enough I just now got a call from Carphonewarehouse asking me if I'm having a problem sending texts as some Desires do indeed have a software fault where they have no Service Centre number for messages. For once, I've skipped the faulty units!
Cheers guys. Sorry scare anyone.
lol.
Whoever it was at HTC got their 2G and 3G mixed up.
what they meant to say was if it goes down to 2G then it'll stop.
You'll be ok in general, as long as you have 3G signal wherever you are. If you've only got 2G, you'll have to hang up, find out and then call back!
the SMSC shouldn't be a problem though, just program it in manually. Not worth sending a phone back for unless it fails then as well.
Even if I'm on 3G/HSPA, when I call someone, as soon as the call is connected, my data connection disappears (only shows bars, no G, 3G, or H) and I can't browse the web or use maps while in-call :-/
ok, well that's not right. The bars should only disappear if you turn the mobile data off. it should not get turned off by a call. Even if i try it when in G, the bars stay showing, just no data comes till i hang up the call.
If the bars are disappearing, something else is going on.
It could be a local network issue. maybe it's an old transmitter that missed an update or something...?could possibly be a full tower.
I know that a few years ago, the towers would kick off data connections to allow more airtime for voice calls which have priority, but i don't know if that's still relevant on 3G.
This was a hot discussion back when the Hero came out as well.
In the end I think it comes down to the network of your carrier. Some people report they can internet and call at the same time. Others say when they are internetting on their phone, a call is directly forwarded to their voicemail etc.
I'm afraid it's a combination between how your carrier configures their network and on what connection you are on (3g, 2g etc).
Yeah it's false alarm no #2 -- must be a spotty 3G at my house. I went to the city centre and tried it there -- worked like a charm.
Though it's a bit weird as 3G speed is not bad at all at my house, but when I call, data connection goes off :-/
Maybe at the city center you got more cells in range than in your house. Means your carrier got more available bandwith
I think reception gets spotty. Sometimes voice and data works, sometimes it doesn't. At home in my bedroom I can get H connection, 20 meters away I can't.
I think the important thing is that the phone is capable. The rest is just pinning down exactly the situation that we want to avoid.
Is anyone experiencing a long delay when dialing out? I am on stock rooted ROM. One of my buddies is having the same issue also. The delay is about 5-10 seconds. I don't have this issue when I use the same SIM card with my old iPhone.
I live in Michigan
memee4eva said:
Is anyone experiencing a long delay when dialing out? I am on stock rooted ROM. One of my buddies is having the same issue also. The delay is about 5-10 seconds. I don't have this issue when I use the same SIM card with my old iPhone.
I live in Michigan
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I have this with my Note II, and so did my Note I and my Streak.
I have seen this on a few of my friends devices. Test this for me
Make a phone call and watch your data icon. It will go from 4g LTE to 4g then disappear the the call will go through.
Then call your phone and watch as the data icon goes from 4g to nothing then ring.
It seems to b a problem with a few select phones. Not sure if its a software or hardware issue. But I have reported the issue to at&t and samsung . Due to the fact that I have seen it on 4 phones
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BIGfin86 said:
I have seen this on a few of my friends devices. Test this for me
Make a phone call and watch your data icon. It will go from 4g LTE to 4g then disappear the the call will go through.
Then call your phone and watch as the data icon goes from 4g to nothing then ring.
It seems to b a problem with a few select phones. Not sure if its a software or hardware issue. But I have reported the issue to at&t and samsung . Due to the fact that I have seen it on 4 phones
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This is exactly what I have noticed!!!! I am also not sure if it's a software or hardware issue.
Seems normal to me. Voice over LTE is not (yet) enabled/available/supported. For voice, the radio has to switch from LTE to UMTS, and then establish a connection to the new network.
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Seems normal to me. Voice over LTE is not (yet) enabled/available/supported. For voice, the radio has to switch from LTE to UMTS, and then establish a connection to the new network.
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The issue is a total loss of data. So no talk and surf
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Just a quick check - is data set to be LTE-only? You generally can't have simultaneous voice and LTE data.
You could try turning off LTE data and forcing WCDMA/GSM data. That might help.
Also, the signal has to be very strong for simultaneous voice and data. When there is low signal strength, the carrier may have elected to suppress data in favour of voice.
You could also experiment with other baseband firmware. That has made a difference on some of my other phones. The configuration of the carrier's towers plays a big role. However, in my limited experience, signal strength has been the key factor.
Good luck!
I have had two phones with the stock builds and base bands next to each other with all the same settings and one works fine the other doesn't.
The weird thing on top of it is that 50% of the time when making outgoing calls it fails. And when people call they receive the message that the line is no longer in service
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Stab in the dark: That sounds like a loose antenna connection - if it happens to the same phone all the time (that was the cause of a similar issue on my old Moto Milestone); or a carrier issue - if it happens on the same tower. (Just because two phones are side by side doesn't mean that they are connected to the same tower.)
The code for radio info is *#0011# http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1802028 (I know we're not talking about fast dormancy - well, we are talking about radio state switching for the OP - but that thread and Erica's two XDA videos on fast dormancy have lots of good info on radios and data.)
I'm all out of ideas now ...
Why does this occur? It switches my data to 3G when I'm in a phone call.
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rjmxtech said:
Why does this occur? It switches my data to 3G when I'm in a phone call.
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AT&T uses HSPA or 3G for voice calls, LTE migration for voice will come eventually but for now every time you receive a phone call or make one, your phone will switch to 3G and then switch back to LTE when the call is terminated. If you want to multitask while on the phone you will do it at a slower data rate.
Erik (an att technician)
ricco333 said:
AT&T uses HSPA or 3G for voice calls, LTE migration for voice will come eventually but for now every time you receive a phone call or make one, your phone will switch to 3G and then switch back to LTE when the call is terminated. If you want to multitask while on the phone you will do it at a slower data rate.
Erik (an att technician)
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This makes sense. I thought it may have been something along these lines. Thanks for the help. I appreciate it.
Hello,
I just got this phone yesterday. Upgrading from HTC Evo 4g LTE.
Today I was on a conference call and tried to access the web and could not. I noticed I did not have the LTE or any indication of mobile data networking ( associated icons). Does this phone handle voice and data at the same time ( not on wifi ).
If not I will have to return this in disbelief.
Thanks
Mike
Please close this thread. After searching i found this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-sprint/help/simultaneous-voice-data-t2893885
Doesn't seem like you can use data and voice together. A work around looks like hangouts dialer. I just downloaded it. Error " phone calling is not supported for this account with this version of hangouts ". Guess i'll have to use the search field to see what/if anything can be done.
Even though I got that error message I was able to make a call. Worked on Wifi and LTE network....this might work out.....
mike929 said:
Even though I got that error message I was able to make a call. Worked on Wifi and LTE network....this might work out.....
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This is a Sprint Spark limitation. All Sprint Spark phones are limited to 1 radio at a time, so you can't have 1 channel running voice and another running data. When you are making a voice call your phone drops down to 1xRTT. The up side is better battery life and the ability to use 800mhz, 1900mhz and 2500mhz LTE (one at a time), the down side is no Simultaneous Voice and Data (unless you are on WiFi).
In the long term everyone will move to Voice over LTE, which will allow data and voice simultaneously again. There is no time frame for this yet with Sprint and the Note4 was listed in the FCC specs as not supporting VOLTE.
Do all new sprint phones have spark? Any time frame for volte?
I had heard whether it's true or not Intel late 15 early 16 for the start of roll out of volte.
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Thanks everyone. Guess i will have to see if i can do without data while using voice.
Get a note3 pretty close to the same phone ya I know there are some major difference but if u really need date and voice that will be way more important than any lil difference between phones
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Thanks @sliverr7x, I would do that, but i want the newest available phones.
I tried searching this, but didn't come up with any answers. I've noticed that on the S6 the LTE data connection disconnects when I'm in a call. On my s4, I was able to talk on my headset and still be on the Internet on the phone (On Lte anyways. 3g would disconnect during a call on the s4). My initial suspicion was that the S6 has some functionality for calls over LTE, but I thought sprint wasn't using that.
Anyone else notice this difference or have more background information on why it's happening?
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I tried searching this, but didn't come up with any answers. I've noticed that on the S6 the LTE data connection disconnects when I'm in a call. On my s4, I was able to talk on my headset and still be on the Internet on the phone (On Lte anyways. 3g would disconnect during a call on the s4). My initial suspicion was that the S6 has some functionality for calls over LTE, but I thought sprint wasn't using that.
Anyone else notice this difference or have more background information on why it's happening?
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Blame Sprint and their Sprint Spark network -_-
ethanhunteg said:
I tried searching this, but didn't come up with any answers. I've noticed that on the S6 the LTE data connection disconnects when I'm in a call. On my s4, I was able to talk on my headset and still be on the Internet on the phone (On Lte anyways. 3g would disconnect during a call on the s4). My initial suspicion was that the S6 has some functionality for calls over LTE, but I thought sprint wasn't using that.
Anyone else notice this difference or have more background information on why it's happening?
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since the Galaxy s5 they use one radio for voice and data where as before there was one radio for cdma/voice and another radio for lte/3g so now you can't have voice and data till they roll out some sort of volte like some other carriers have