might buy this phone but... - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

so my upgrade is due in about a month for my og evo and was thinking about this phone because i played with it in a sprint store and really liked it except for the touchwiz part... so just wondering if there are any sense roms on this phone or if its even possible... i know there was one for the nexus s 4g. if not, no big deal because i'll probably be running ics anyway but just curious haha

there are no sense roms for this. and being a longtime user of HTC, I thought I would miss sense as well.
did not. not one bit. I actually prefer TW at this point, far closer to aosp, in most ways, cleaner.
of course there are sense "themes" for alternate launchers you could use, if you really needed it...
and with ICS around the corner, well we'll have CM9, AOKP, MIUI4... plenty of better options than Anything sense based.
and again, frankly, still like running stock ROMs on this phone. after all the crap I heard about how "bad" TW is/was, I expected to change it quick. but TBH I can't understand what they were talking about. clean. responsive, light on resources (compared to sense)... to each his own though, right?

alright thanks haha. its just after 2 years sense has kinda made a place for itself in my heart so idk haha. btw any news on the sgsIII? i heard a few rumors but figured this forum would know more about it like any news on a release date or a definite shape or look of the phone for sprint? don't want to buy a device and have it already be outdated like 2 months later haha

PhxkinMassacre said:
don't want to buy a device and have it already be outdated like 2 months later haha
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LOL, i know what you mean. I gave up on that race. I ended up hesitating on everything, because of reading rumor of "the newest thing, right around the corner". I am just committed to buying a new device every year, find something awesome, run it into the ground. ;-)
and this phone is AWESOME. seriously. fast as ****, brilliant screen, SO much internal storage and RAM, I can't make this phone fail.

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LOL, i know what you mean. I gave up on that race. I ended up hesitating on everything, because of reading rumor of "the newest thing, right around the corner". I am just committed to buying a new device every year, find something awesome, run it into the ground. ;-)
and this phone is AWESOME. seriously. fast as ****, brilliant screen, SO much internal storage and RAM, I can't make this phone fail.
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haha alright. thanks for the info. if nothing else better comes out in a month, this is at the top of my list

There is usually never a point to wait but this time there is a case to wait. Sprint well be starting to sell lte phones around midyear that will support their new lte network. Being this close to that there is no reason to grab a Wimax phone.
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There is usually never a point to wait but this time there is a case to wait. Sprint well be starting to sell lte phones around midyear that will support their new lte network. Being this close to that there is no reason to grab a Wimax phone.
Formerly Tuffgong4 on xda
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What he said. There ate a few nice phones on the horizon that should really compete with the E4GT, plus have LTE
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tbh i would wait for an lte phone at this point. this phone is 6 months old now and if the og evo is still kicking i would hold out for an lte one.

I would wait too if that evo is still good..
This phone is awesome but i would wait for an LTE phone.

I wouldn't wait for LTE, Sprint is having their own issues with the rollout which was expected to be limited coverage anyhow for the first 1-2 years. 4g might be spotty but in a good area its crazy fast and its my understanding that phones wont have both 4g/wimax and lte. This means that unless you are in a lte area your new lte phone will only really have 3g and wifi. Just get the best phone out when your contract is up. I got this phone last month and believe its the best phone out right now.

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I wouldn't wait for LTE, Sprint is having their own issues with the rollout which was expected to be limited coverage anyhow for the first 1-2 years. 4g might be spotty but in a good area its crazy fast and its my understanding that phones wont have both 4g/wimax and lte. This means that unless you are in a lte area your new lte phone will only really have 3g and wifi. Just get the best phone out when your contract is up. I got this phone last month and believe its the best phone out right now.
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Agree completely; there is no way there will be much Sprint LTE before the end of this year, and, then, it will only be in their major cities, if at all.
I would jump all over this phone ASAP, since its the best Android phone out there, bar none..and, if you look around, there are some good deals..

I'd save the upgrade and buy a gently used E4GT for $100 more. I realize there are places that offer the E4GT as an upgrade for less than $200, but that isn't an option for sero users like myself. Anyway lol, I've gone from the og Evo, to the 3vo, to the E4GT just a few days ago, and this thing is Big and Beautiful! I highly recommend switching
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PhxkinMassacre said:
so my upgrade is due in about a month for my og evo and was thinking about this phone because i played with it in a sprint store and really liked it except for the touchwiz part... so just wondering if there are any sense roms on this phone or if its even possible... i know there was one for the nexus s 4g. if not, no big deal because i'll probably be running ics anyway but just curious haha
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I came from the OG EVO 4G as well. A world of a difference and I love it! I hadn't been using Sense on my EVO for the last half a year cuz I've been using ADW anyway. There are so many good launchers out there and ICS is awesome in itself, I'm sure you won't miss Sense at all.
This phone is a ton faster than the EVO and the screen is amazing. My EVO would take a few minutes to fully start up, the S2 takes <30 sec. You will love it, I'm sure!
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+1 on buying privately instead of upgrading if possible...
In the past 4 months I have bought 3 S2's (one I just bought yesterday), all of them I paid $400 max for. And these phones were brand spanking new, still sealed in the box. If you look for a lightly used one, I'm sure you can get one for around the $300 range.
I had a fortunate situation though cuz my EVO broke on my, so Sprint replaced it with a new one. I sold that one on eBay for $260, so my out of pocket expense wasn't too bad. I love not being under contract, plus it leaves you the option should the Sprint network change and something totally awesome comes out and you wanna be locked in again.

Yo massacre id recommed the et4g i came from evo too lte is having so many issues rolling out on sprint who knows when it will be ready especially now that the fcc either has or is trying to block lightsquared for the gps interference issues which is gonna do some real damage to sprint both finacially and in their ability to obtain the hardware and support they are gonna need, and with wimax continuing to be supported atleast until 2015 if you are currently in a 4g area you will be able to use it til your up for an upgrade again vs you could wait for lte and it wont be available in your area right away or not at all if lte happens as planned right now it looks like anything other than test markets are being delayed for now
We are legion, for we are many
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I have been hearing that BS about 4G/LTE for 2 years now...when a customer asks me when it's coming I just state that I have no idea, best plce to stay current with all of that is www dot clear dot com and keep checking the coverage map in your area.

Clear doesn't do lte yet, atleast not in my area they are exclusively wimax here in the Tampa bay area
We are legion, for we are many
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I would wait for LTE too. I do second buying a used one but good luck finding an E4GT for $100, $200 is more likely. If you want Sense wait for a new HTC phone.
Sammys feel cheaper and are scratch magnets. Appearance wise, I think HTCs hold up better. I'm not a TW fan and I'm not Sense fan either. I like it simple and have used Launcherpro with Fancy Widgets for the sense style clock and the 5 day forecast. Been doing that for all my HTC, LG and Samsung phones. Since I'm now on a an ICS rom, I'm trying Nova Launcher.
The E4GT is the best phone I have owned but it is getting old and the new cycle bigger, badder and faster is about to start. Don't lock yourself into last year's phone with a wasted upgrade.

I would wait for LTE too. I do second buying a used one but good luck finding an E4GT for $100, $200 is more likely. If you want Sense wait for a new HTC phone.
Sammys feel cheaper and are scratch magnets. Appearance wise, I think HTCs hold up better. I'm not a TW fan and I'm not Sense fan either. I like it simple and have used Launcherpro with Fancy Widgets for the sense style clock and the 5 day forecast. Been doing that for all my HTC, LG and Samsung phones. Since I'm now on a an ICS rom, I'm trying Nova Launcher.
The E4GT is the best phone I have owned but it is getting old and the new cycle bigger, badder and faster is about to start. Don't lock yourself into last year's phone with a wasted upgrade.

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[Q] Upgrade to EVO yes/no poll

There are a couple of threads on this out there, but I wanted to make a Poll.
So, right now I'm using my old HTC Hero with CM 6.1, and I love it. Rooting my phone made me fall in love with my smartphone all over again (it's my first smartphone).
So for those of you Sprint people, they told me that I can upgrade right now or when my contract is up, it won't matter: I will get the Evo for $200 with a new contract.
Before we dive in, do you know if this is really the cheapest option from Sprint? I am aware I could probably just buy an Evo from Ebay or something of the sort, but I'm a bit worried about doing that. Anyone has experience getting Evo somewhere else and can share?
I use my phone for a lot of things.. internet, calling, texting, games, even as a flashlight sometimes. I got myself an extra battery for this phone but I assume I will need a new one for the EVO. I see people asked about battery life, but seriously, I don't expect my phone to stay alive for more than 8 hours or so with all these apps running.
Next, what I like about the EVO is the better camera, and the fact that it has flash (I use my phone for pictures). Front facing camera is nice, haven't used it before, is it really worth it? Is chatting with it smooth, or is it slow as sh*t?
Keyboard - I used to hate the touch keyboard because it would freeze for split seconds and writing something would be frustrating. I still find it annoying to use the touch screen for typing because the buttons are so small. I have a feeling the evo would help with that, but perhaps I should wait for something with a real keyboard? Anyone knows of a good model that's suppose to come out, and when?
4G - I live in New York city. Anyone from around here knows if 4G is really available, or it just exists in very specific locations? Is it much faster? How do you like the fact that you can maintain data connection while making a call, is it a big deal? I don't barely actually use my phone for talking. I count on Gchat and texting.
Speed - There are speed issues with my phone right, especially when I run intense apps (angry birds is very choppy, for example, and Pandora can hang the entire system up), does the Evo take care of that?
Size - It's a big phone. To be honest, the weight and the size do not attract me, but I do realize that a bigger screen will be better to work with and might aid with the keyboard issue. Thoughts?
Rooting - How hard is it? I think CM runs on the EVO if memory serves right. I Rooted my Hero so I assume doing it to the EVO would not be much harder. Thoughts?
So yeah, these are some points I'm considering. Should I get it? And is there a cheaper (good!) way to get it?
Thanks for reading!
you posted in evo forum, expect biased answers, that said
you will love an evo! I had a hero first, still do. the batteries are the same,
the keyboard on the hero wasn't very accurate so typing was frustrating, on the evo it is splendid,
rooting is a breeze with unrevoked
no slowdowns at all for any apps, in any situation, I've been downloading while streaming pandora and playing games with no issue,
I highly recommend it, the evo changed the way I think of smartphones
I would wait to the end of march and see what sprint announces
Swyped from my cyanogenized and gingerbreaded EVO
I would wait as well. Some new phones should be coming out shortly
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I doubt an Evo 2 will come out anytime soon. So yes. The new phone coming out is most likely the HTC Arrive, which is the HTC 7 Pro. That aside, the Evo is just f*cking awesome. Also for individual line upgrade, Amazon says $180 with free 2-day shipping: http://wireless.amazon.com/dp/B003N9B3CY
CTIA is soon. Sprint announces new phones at CTIA. So I would wait. Unless you want to buy one off contract on Ebay.
WAIT for something better.. This bad ass brick will soon be replaced and become just a plain old acme brick soon
I have a bad feeling Sprint isn't gonna have much this year as far as Android devices go... we will see. An Evo 2 would be bad ass or a dual core Samsung.
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I don't care if Samsung comes out with a quad-core phone. I'm not touching that **** after what happened with the Galaxy S line.
they better come out with something that will at least compete with others phones (like the droid x::evo) otherwise they will have many unhappy customers who cancel and leave... hell they charge $10 for a premium phone now, how premium will the HTC EVO be come this Spring? (I don't want to pay for a "premium phone" when its outdated)
anyways sorry for the semi rant.. im slightly upset with sprint and their actions right now.
CTIA is guaranteed to give us something good. I am hoping for a Galaxy S2 or something equivalent. But then again... Sprint has been known to let you down. Tough call.
masterfuel said:
they better come out with something that will at least compete with others phones (like the droid x::evo) otherwise they will have many unhappy customers who cancel and leave... hell they charge $10 for a premium phone now, how premium will the HTC EVO be come this Spring? (I don't want to pay for a "premium phone" when its outdated)
anyways sorry for the semi rant.. im slightly upset with sprint and their actions right now.
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You aren't paying $10 for a premium phone. You are paying the $10 for the premium data package, and All smartphones on the sprint network will be paying the exact same fee, its not isolated to the Evo, Shift, or Epic, it will encompass the blackberry's and all other android phones that sprint carries.
On topic of best deals for the EVO, check RadioShack's online wireless store. It's going for $149.99 with free activation on new/upgrade subs. Or in-store, they require a trade-in of any old working phone with a charger to get the $149.99 price (check with your local stores if the deal still available).
IMHO, with all the new phones coming out, I would wait. I love my Evo, but I wouldn't get locked into a new 2-yr sub on a phone that is around 4mos shy of being a year old.
I would wait. EVO is nice but nothing compared to what other carriers are getting (Optimus). Hold out for a dual core device (hopefully from HTC).
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I don't care if Samsung comes out with a quad-core phone. I'm not touching that **** after what happened with the Galaxy S line.
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I agree with this. Samsung left a bad taste with me after having my epic with GPS issues, dropped keys and no 2.2 (till just recently)
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heck yea its amazing i was skeptical too till i played with one
I love my Evo. That said I think it would work perfect for everything you listed except for one. The Evo's camera pretty much sucks.
I have a release day Evo, so maybe the newer ones are a little better, but unless the pictures I have taken were in bright daylight they are almost unusable.
http://www.studentrate.com/STUDENTR...deals/Sprint-Student-Rate-Member-Discount--/0
Not sure if studentrate still offers $69.99 Evos.
ATM The Evo is the best phone for Sprint. If you want to wait for something better you can. Personally this is the best phone I've ever used. While it is on par or a little worse than some of the newer phones coming out, its been a year and they are finally catching up.
You also have to take into consideration how much longer the Evo is going to stay ahead or on par with these phones. We might be seeing Gingerbread and Sense 2.0 but that might be a long shot.
If you aren't having any issues with your Hero, I'd say stick with it for a few more months. See what comes out.
Thank you everyone, for the honest opinions. I got a lot of info.
Well, it's about a month later now, and I'm still on my HTC Hero. I just found out about the $10 extra, which I will be paying if I upgrade. My girlfriend has a big family plan on T-mobile, and after calculations, it seems I will be saving about $20 a month using a phone under her name, on T-mobile.
Of course, this means I need to ditch Sprint. I don't feel too bad after being on the Network for a year and being charged for extra if I want to upgrade. No serious official updates for their phones either, thank god I rooted mine, the best thing I've ever done to it.
I checked the T-mobile 2G today, and wasn't that impressed. I liked the keyboard, but the specs are not as good as the EVO. By the way, what are these issues I'm hearing about the EVO's camera? it's 8MP, how come it's so bad? I only have 5mp now, and so does the 2G. What are the specific issues you guys are having?
Right now I am going to find out just how much it will cost me to get out of Sprint, and if it's worth it (buying a new phone on T-mobile will cost me $100 extra over an upgrade in Sprint). What are some of the good T-mobile phones you guys think are good? Camera with flash is important to me, and so does screen size - two things I really like about the EVO. I do want a big screen. I would also like a keyboard if possible.
Anything changed in the market? New amazing Spring phones I'm not aware of, or T-Mobile? I am specifically interested in HTC, I'm not a big fan of Samsung or Motorola.
beholder121 said:
Thank you everyone, for the honest opinions. I got a lot of info.
Well, it's about a month later now, and I'm still on my HTC Hero. I just found out about the $10 extra, which I will be paying if I upgrade. My girlfriend has a big family plan on T-mobile, and after calculations, it seems I will be saving about $20 a month using a phone under her name, on T-mobile.
Of course, this means I need to ditch Sprint. I don't feel too bad after being on the Network for a year and being charged for extra if I want to upgrade. No serious official updates for their phones either, thank god I rooted mine, the best thing I've ever done to it.
I checked the T-mobile 2G today, and wasn't that impressed. I liked the keyboard, but the specs are not as good as the EVO. By the way, what are these issues I'm hearing about the EVO's camera? it's 8MP, how come it's so bad? I only have 5mp now, and so does the 2G. What are the specific issues you guys are having?
Right now I am going to find out just how much it will cost me to get out of Sprint, and if it's worth it (buying a new phone on T-mobile will cost me $100 extra over an upgrade in Sprint). What are some of the good T-mobile phones you guys think are good? Camera with flash is important to me, and so does screen size - two things I really like about the EVO. I do want a big screen. I would also like a keyboard if possible.
Anything changed in the market? New amazing Spring phones I'm not aware of, or T-Mobile? I am specifically interested in HTC, I'm not a big fan of Samsung or Motorola.
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See: http://www.androidcentral.com/sprin...ils-leaked-expect-evo-3d-evo-view-4g-and-xoom
CTIA is this coming Tuesday. Sprint's presentation is hours long. I'd be sure to keep your eye out on here and other tech news sites for what Sprint announces. If that Evo 3D becomes a reality, I'd imagine anyone would want to hold out for that instead of acquiring the Evo now only to have the Evo 3D replace it in months.
Furthremore, if looking into T-Mobile and leaving Sprint (which, as a biased member, I would be against!), keep in mind that at 3:15 PM EDT, a merger between AT&T and T-Mobile was announced, the former acquiring the latter.

thinking of selling my bolt

You read the title. It's rooted, running gingerbread never had any issues. This is my first htc device and while it has its +'s I'm not happy with it. I've had it since may. Thinking of selling it so I can buy a bionic or tablet. I don't know what a realistic price is, but I'm thinking somewhere between upgrade and full retail.
A) This shouldn't be in accessories.
B)You'll get about $375 for it if its perfect.
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Are you posting this because your soliciting offers, or do you want us to talk you back down to earth?
We here in the TB subthread are a hearty bunch who very much like our somewhat maligned smartphone
$375 would be optimistic, and definitely not including eBay/Paypal fees (google for a calculator to get a good idea of how much they take).
What is not doing it for you on the TB? Have you tried some of the slimmed roms?
Well to put it bluntly, I hate sense. Fixed that with launcher pro, but that doesn't let me use the sense elements I do like. The signal is crap (where I am), no 4g here yet. I only got it to be grandfathered in before the tiered data plans. Now that they are extended I'm thinking of other options. It's a ford chevy thing. You can argue it all day and no one is right or wrong. My droid x was more reliable in my area, and usability is most important to me.
Can't blame a man for that...you'll get no flaming from me.
I have a great VZW signal and LTE where I'm at. I completely understand where you are coming from.
Have you tried, for S&G, another Tbolt just to see if you could get better reception?
I'm with you on tiered data...I just got my girl her iPhone 4 Saturday (I could not convince her to come to the dark side...sorry..lol)
My advice is to try a replacement first before you sign off...but I understand if you do, regardless. Best of luck...
Yea a thunderbolt without 4g is nothing but a dinc 2. You really liked your droid x? I hated that phone, no matter OC or rom, it always was mega laggy throughout the UI. The hdmi out was nice though.
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You read the title. It's rooted, running gingerbread never had any issues. This is my first htc device and while it has its +'s I'm not happy with it. I've had it since may. Thinking of selling it so I can buy a bionic or tablet. I don't know what a realistic price is, but I'm thinking somewhere between upgrade and full retail.
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I will give $250 (including shipping) for it.
I know the TB has no HDMI, but what do you guys use that feature for anyway?
I went from the Droid to TB and other than the battery life I love the TB! I've got 4G in my area and get 16mb download which is simply awesome. The 3 hour battery life or 5 hour if I turn off LTE sucks big time.
When does the bionic come out anyway? Im not too crazy for moto after the X and D2 days with the locked boot loaders. Even tho there were ways around it, it still sucked. Hopefully the Bionic is not the same.
I agree, different strokes for different fokes. I had the Droid X and after having the TB, I haven't looked back once. I liked my X until I didn't. I'm in Portland Oregon where there isn't 4g either so I'm on 3g and I still would take my TB over the X. but thats just my opinion.
not trying to diss the OP but the tbolt is the most solid phone verizon carries. i mean yeah sense sucks but i just use launcherpro + the sense 3.0 lockscreen. i mean come on man there are tons of alternative launchers on the market and xda. sounds as if he just is making excuses to dump the phone.
no offense but i think you would be happier sticking to this one as both samsung & moto phones are not the best and do not get as many updates as htc phones. trust me as ive owned almost every brand out there.
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I will give $250 (including shipping) for it.
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i wouldn't except anything under $300 for this phone.
I'll give you a BAMFed Nook Color for it : D
Im not understanding how rooted users are getting terrible battery life. 1GHz is plenty fast for anything a phone will do leave it there and underclock it when its off, I got another 6-8 hours of battery life out of my TB and no lag what so ever.
I completely understand if you don't have 4G because if it wasn't for my awesome 4G I would have probably gotten rid of it and just waited for the galaxy s2. But the amount of dev support already for the TB has made me stick with it.
Noooooo don't selllllllll
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I don't understand why ppl don't like sense. It's slippery slick on BAMF! The battery life is not that bad if not good. It's a great phone. I dont have 4g and I still happy. Just sell it and move on to whatever...
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I wouldn't sell it. The bolt is just at the point of infancy with development so who knows what other ROMs will come out
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I appreciate all of your input, but it's not the ui. It's the equipment. When I'm in charlotte this phone is awesome. But when I'm not its data usage is about as useful as my old lg voyager. It has a weak ant. This is my second one, rooted tried all radios and several roms. Other than the signal issue, great phone. I'm not hating, it just won't work for my situation. Once I have 4g it wouldn't be an issue, but that's not slated until mid 2012 in my area.
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I appreciate all of your input, but it's not the ui. It's the equipment. When I'm in charlotte this phone is awesome. But when I'm not its data usage is about as useful as my old lg voyager. It has a weak ant. This is my second one, rooted tried all radios and several roms. Other than the signal issue, great phone. I'm not hating, it just won't work for my situation. Once I have 4g it wouldn't be an issue, but that's not slated until mid 2012 in my area.
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I'm with you on this. If you wanna sell it, sell it. You shouldn't come to a forum so strangers can agree or disagree with you on that matter. I personally wish you the best of luck in your voyage on selling the device. I'd do it sooner than later considering as each day passes by, the phone you own right now is depreciating in value quickly. Hold onto the money until the next great phone comes out. Maybe the Galaxy S2 (Function). I know I'm as lost as everyone else is about that phone's specs for verizon, but I think it's going to be CDMA only w/o LTE. I'm personally waiting for that to come out before I start thinking about ditching my bolt which works great for me
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I agree, different strokes for different fokes. I had the Droid X and after having the TB, I haven't looked back once. I liked my X until I didn't. I'm in Portland Oregon where there isn't 4g either so I'm on 3g and I still would take my TB over the X. but thats just my opinion.
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You need to turn on your 4G bud. It's been up and running in Portland, OR for at least a few weeks now. I know that it hasn't been "announced." But it's working... I live here.
Ron

I love my dinc! But what's next?

I'm an original at&t iPhone guy who switched to Verizon about a year ago when the android finally started making me drool over its superior look, feel and operation.
The fact that its open source and has far better customization, sold me in a heartbeat. I started with a Samsung fascinate and was sorely dissapointed. The phone always had bugs and never ran properly. Even after a much awaited froyo update.
I traded my fascinate on craigslist for my dinc about 4 months ago and was very impressed not only with the lack of bugs and lagginess but also at the development that has occurred. The devs for this phone are freakin awesome!!! Thanks guys!!
Now I see dual core processors and larger screens taking over the android market as well as an upcoming iPhone 5 that, I'm sure will live up to the apple name.
My question is simple. Should I keep my dinc until its done, should I upgrade to a newer android device or should I cross back to the dark side and have apple tell me what's good for me once again? Hmmmmmmm.....
Comments?
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Nothing is worthy of replacing the inc yet. I look daily. Lol
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wollitaj said:
I'm an original at&t iPhone guy who switched to Verizon about a year ago when the android finally started making me drool over its superior look, feel and operation.
The fact that its open source and has far better customization, sold me in a heartbeat. I started with a Samsung fascinate and was sorely dissapointed. The phone always had bugs and never ran properly. Even after a much awaited froyo update.
I traded my fascinate on craigslist for my dinc about 4 months ago and was very impressed not only with the lack of bugs and lagginess but also at the development that has occurred. The devs for this phone are freakin awesome!!! Thanks guys!!
Now I see dual core processors and larger screens taking over the android market as well as an upcoming iPhone 5 that, I'm sure will live up to the apple name.
My question is simple. Should I keep my dinc until its done, should I upgrade to a newer android device or should I cross back to the dark side and have apple tell me what's good for me once again? Hmmmmmmm.....
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I'm keeping my Dinc until it's upgrade time (beginning of Jan 2012), and if there is no suitable replacement (for my tastes) then I have no problems sticking with the Dinc. It's a great phone and will still be a great phone in 6 months from now.
As for switching to iPhone, that's a matter of preference. I'm a Mac user that prefers Android over iOS because iOS doesn't have the flexibility and functionality that Android does. I do think that iOS can be prettier and more polished in some ways, but the functionality of an Android phone is worth more than the eye candy of iOS.
I would say the only worthy upgrade seems to be the SGS2(if it has lte) or the Nexus 4G/htc verzion that are rumored for this fall/winter.
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I would say the only worthy upgrade seems to be the SGS2(if it has lte) or the Nexus 4G/htc verzion that are rumored for this fall/winter.
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HTC Nexus on Verizon *drooool*
I did a long hard search and honestly there is nothing better than the DINC right now.
The Droid incredible 2 I still wouldn't take just because of the lack of development.
I'd be surprised if Verizon would allow a stock phone without bloatware all over the damn place.. I'd love if I was wrong but I wouldn't be surprised if it was still a sprint phone. Saw an article about how sprint is now going to be removing bloatware or making it uninstallable. Pretty respectable move IMO, but I can't see Verizon following suit.
actually the nexus 4g lte is rumored to go to At&t with their new 4g lte network not verizons and sprint sort of exagerates "lies" the removal of bloatware because you can only remove 5 or so apps
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HTC Nexus on Verizon *drooool*
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Ill tell ya what, if the next nexus is truely an HTC phone on Verizon, I will definitely get it. Its the best of everything android stands for. Open source vanilla OS and superior hardware. HTC is, by far, my top pick for any android phone!!!! And ics, come on.... What more can u ask for?
It's wall to wall walls in this place!!!
TheWhiteBandito said:
I'm keeping my Dinc until it's upgrade time (beginning of Jan 2012), and if there is no suitable replacement (for my tastes) then I have no problems sticking with the Dinc. It's a great phone and will still be a great phone in 6 months from now.
As for switching to iPhone, that's a matter of preference. I'm a Mac user that prefers Android over iOS because iOS doesn't have the flexibility and functionality that Android does. I do think that iOS can be prettier and more polished in some ways, but the functionality of an Android phone is worth more than the eye candy of iOS.
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That's when I have my upgrade option as well and honestly I'm thinking about switching to Sprint. They have been getting some of the best phones lately. When I look at Verizon's line up and upcoming it seems to be all of the same.
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actually the nexus 4g lte is rumored to go to At&t with their new 4g lte network not verizons and sprint sort of exagerates "lies" the removal of bloatware because you can only remove 5 or so apps
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Hm i didn't see that.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/19/sprints-fared-adib-we-made-a-conscious-decision-to-scale-back/
Man, there STILL isn't anything even being talked about to be released to consider. Disappointing!
The only consolation is that we still have one of the best phones out there.
I have incredible faith (heh heh) in our devs. Seeing as the inc2 has just been rooted and we have the 2 big boys, cm7 and Miui already available for the device, i believe ill be accidentally taking a shower with my Dinc in my pocket in the next few weeks.
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rfarrah said:
Man, there STILL isn't anything even being talked about to be released to consider. Disappointing!
The only consolation is that we still have one of the best phones out there.
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Also, as far as I'm concerned, as long as the devs hold in there with this phone until the end of this year and port ICS, I will probably keep this phone until it dies.
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Im keeping my Incredible until 3/13/13. Then i dont know if my girlfriend gets my upgrade or i do.
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What's next is called the Thunderbolt. It's got a screen bright enough to read, battery life... well, anything has batter battery life than a dInc, absolutely stupid-fast 4G, a stupid-fast CPU that EASILY clocks up to 1.6GHz, and a screen big enough for a keyboard. I lived with the dInc for a long time, longer than any other phone I've ever had. I cannot for the life of me understand how anyone can say with a straight face that the original dInc isn't bested yet. There is literally nothing that the dInc does as well, let alone better, than either the Thunderbolt or the dInc2.
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I'd be surprised if Verizon would allow a stock phone without bloatware all over the damn place.. I'd love if I was wrong but I wouldn't be surprised if it was still a sprint phone. Saw an article about how sprint is now going to be removing bloatware or making it uninstallable. Pretty respectable move IMO, but I can't see Verizon following suit.
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Verizon gets a small incentive from the companies of the bloatware, that's why they put them on there. and i don't think verizon will ever get a nexus bone stock android phone, i really don't, here is why. Verizon isn't really out there for the consumer, they are out there for the profit. hence why, i mean at t-mobile and ATT, if you want a new phone, no problem, walk into the store, and get one at the upgrade price....in the middle of your contract.
Verizon hasn't gotten the idea of that just yet. plus like other companies, verizon does have shareholders to report to (and they aren't happy, they think the data plan changes will ruin their investment)
the only reason i have verizon is because that's the only carrier here with decent coverege, and they really aren't as bad as people make them out to be.
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What's next is called the Thunderbolt. It's got a screen bright enough to read, battery life... well, anything has batter battery life than a dInc,
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that's your oppinion.
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absolutely stupid-fast 4G, a stupid-fast CPU that EASILY clocks up to 1.6GHz, and a screen big enough for a keyboard.
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yeah, we can overclock any phone, and switch to landscape mode to type somthing. and 4G isn't nationwide in every single town yet, i want to know people seem to think that. and not everyone wants a big-ass phone in their pockets. i have somtuing called a laptop, and it works just great if i want somthing better than 3.5 inches
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I lived with the dInc for a long time, longer than any other phone I've ever had. I cannot for the life of me understand how anyone can say with a straight face that the original dInc isn't bested yet.
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maybe because we have devs who already got it to gingerbread? and with that logic everyone in this country on the roads should be driving brand new 2012 model year cars, right now. people are happy with what they have and they make it better. not everyone has 500+ dollars to spend on a new phone everytime they come out.
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There is literally nothing that the dInc does as well, let alone better, than either the Thunderbolt or the dInc2.
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really? there isn't much difference, gingerbread as i said above, is already on various roms for the dinc. the main selling point for the t-bolt right now is that it's a 4g CAPABLE phone. if you are not in a 4g area, you will get 3g coverege. my area won't get 4g until a few years from now. and no, i don't live in "podunk nebraska" i live in a town of about 48,500+ people.
the way you pimp the freaking t-bolt so much... the thunderbolt threads are down there
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that's your oppinion.
yeah, we can overclock any phone, and switch to landscape mode to type somthing. and 4G isn't nationwide in every single town yet, i want to know people seem to think that. and not everyone wants a big-ass phone in their pockets. i have somtuing called a laptop, and it works just great if i want somthing better than 3.5 inches
maybe because we have devs who already got it to gingerbread? and with that logic everyone in this country on the roads should be driving brand new 2012 model year cars, right now. people are happy with what they have and they make it better. not everyone has 500+ dollars to spend on a new phone everytime they come out.
really? there isn't much difference, gingerbread as i said above, is already on various roms for the dinc. the main selling point for the t-bolt right now is that it's a 4g CAPABLE phone. if you are not in a 4g area, you will get 3g coverege. my area won't get 4g until a few years from now. and no, i don't live in "podunk nebraska" i live in a town of about 48,500+ people.
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Guess what? I had a dInc2 to play with for a week and I still have my Tbolt and I'm about to kernel up my old dInc, so yeah, I've got a hell of a lot more clue than pretty much everyone on this thread as to what I'm talking about. My dInc has been running GB for quite a while now. So has my Bolt. The dInc2 did EVERYTHING faster than the original, running bone stock firmware!
I'm not gonna make excuses for the Bolt. The firmware for that phone, and a good number of the leaks have been lousy. But, the more recent leaks have yielded absolutely bullet-proof, flowing-water smooth ROMs. The question was "What's next?". That big plate of glass next to me IS what's next. There is no question about it. It's not opinion. As for 4G, when towns like Fostoria, OH pop up with LTE, I'm thinking very broad coverage on this side of the Mississippi is clearly coming.... well before my contract is up. Hell! Even 3G is faster on the dInc2 and Tbolt, if for no other reason than they have the power to render things quicker. I'm glad people are happy with what they have. The dInc was, and still is, a solid, modern phone more capable than many devices to come after it. Too bad it looks pretty dated in light of Tbolts and dInc2's and several other phones. When I read someone write something like "I keep looking and I don't see anything that measures up to the dInc", I'm wondering how much crack they smoke. You're either insane, on drugs, or oblivious to reality to think that.
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Guess what? I had a dInc2 to play with for a week and I still have my Tbolt and I'm about to kernel up my old dInc, so yeah, I've got a hell of a lot more clue than pretty much everyone on this thread as to what I'm talking about. My dInc has been running GB for quite a while now. So has my Bolt. The dInc2 did EVERYTHING faster than the original, running bone stock firmware!
I'm not gonna make excuses for the Bolt. The firmware for that phone, and a good number of the leaks have been lousy. But, the more recent leaks have yielded absolutely bullet-proof, flowing-water smooth ROMs. The question was "What's next?". That big plate of glass next to me IS what's next. There is no question about it. It's not opinion. As for 4G, when towns like Fostoria, OH pop up with LTE, I'm thinking very broad coverage on this side of the Mississippi is clearly coming.... well before my contract is up. Hell! Even 3G is faster on the dInc2 and Tbolt, if for no other reason than they have the power to render things quicker. I'm glad people are happy with what they have. The dInc was, and still is, a solid, modern phone more capable than many devices to come after it. Too bad it looks pretty dated in light of Tbolts and dInc2's and several other phones. When I read someone write something like "I keep looking and I don't see anything that measures up to the dInc", I'm wondering how much crack they smoke. You're either insane, on drugs, or oblivious to reality to think that.
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Wow man way to be a total ****. I have an incredible and my brother has a Tbolt, I can honestly say I prefer mine over it.
Besides that, although the Tbolt and INC2 *are* upgrades from the INC- for most people they just aren't worth someone's 2-year contract or full retail to get that sort of an upgrade. You've been out of the INC scene for a while it looks like.. and DEV's here are still putting out loads of stuff every day increasing performance/battery life/features -- moreso than INC2 or Thunderbolt since they've been out a shorter time. The INC2 even has issues now where if you buy it and it comes with GB, you can't even root it.
4G is extremely scarce, if you drive out 5 miles from whatever city you're in then you're out of luck as far as 4G goes. 4G is nowhere in my state yet, not even in our capitol (Richmond) and it looks like it'll be at least a year, probably more until we get it. The 3G, at least where I'm at, is fantastically good. I get 320kb/s on a good day and low 200's/kb/s during peak hours. That's enough to stream Colbert report, download movies (I've downloaded 4 so far) and watch netflix without pauses or hiccups.
So.. even if there WAS 4G in my area there really isn't any need that I get it since I don't normally watch HD movies on a ~4" screen or tether it to a datacenter.
Your opinion and mine.. but you don't need to flaunt around your phone while downing the INC (on our own forums) which is a perfectly awesome phone.

Not sure if I should buy the Epic Touch.

I'm really on the fence when it comes to buying this. On the one hand it's seems like a really great phone with really great specs. I would be coming from the Samsung Epic.
On the other hand I'm really puzzled by how this phone is being released. Unlike the Evo,Epic and Nexus there is really a lukewarm reception as far as the retailers go. We're at launch day and places like Best buy, Radio shack are not really showing much interest.
The phone was released in Europe 10 months ago and seems like the US retailers are treating it as such. The low price $99 from Walmarts to the lackluster offerings from the retailers.
With the changes Sprint has made canceling Premier cutting the return time from 30 to 14 days and increasing the ETF. I wondering if they are just trying to get people to use their upgrade on what they consider a lesser/cheaper phone. So less people will use it on the Nexus Prime,Iphone 5.
I would really appreciate people opinions on this. I have my upgrade and cash in hand today. Thanks for taking the time to read this.
I'm right there with you. I've had my upgrade for a while and have just been waiting. I am honestly now waiting for the iPhone 5 specs to be released. Depending on how it looks I will buy it or the epic touch. I still prefer android but I like trying all os's. As far as the prime goes..I don't think sprint will get it in 2011
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ervman1 said:
I'm right there with you. I've had my upgrade for a while and have just been waiting. I am honestly now waiting for the iPhone 5 specs to be released. Depending on how it looks I will buy it or the epic touch. I still prefer android but I like trying all os's. As far as the prime goes..I don't think sprint will get it in 2011
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If Sprint doesn't get the Prime this year then I'm afraid I'll have to ditch my Nexus S and get the Epic Touch. I just hope it gets Cyanogen Mod
OMG! It is hard to make decision about this E4GT, I know it has the best camera and high resolution as far as I know. I am using Photon 4G, it is great phone as well with dual networks (world phone), it is convenient when you step out from USA, you just pop in pre-paid gsm card, then you can connect the world. Gee, the hardest decision that I need to make. Any thoughts?
I am truely upset about how Sprint went about releasing this phone. I was able to preorder the EVO 3D a month before it was available at Bestbuy. Now, Bestbuy doesn't even know what the Epic Touch is. And it's release day....
Overstew said:
I am truely upset about how Sprint went about releasing this phone. I was able to preorder the EVO 3D a month before it was available at Bestbuy. Now, Bestbuy doesn't even know what the Epic Touch is. And it's release day....
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Sprint seems to have a much better relationship with HTC. They really go all out with regards to advertising and release hype.
rockethot said:
If Sprint doesn't get the Prime this year then I'm afraid I'll have to ditch my Nexus S and get the Epic Touch. I just hope it gets Cyanogen Mod
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I am kind of with you. I want the prime so I am waiting at least a few weeks I think to see.
Does anyone know if I will be able to get the phone at a discount price, since I'm not eligible yet till 3/23/2012. The phone plan is 3 Evo's and another cheap phone that does have an upgrade option. I want to get this phone, but I'm also interested in seeing the iphone 5
I just got it about 20 minutes ago and couldn't be happier. Coming from the evo 4g, the difference is night and day. You can natively ditch any bloatware. So much faster and lighter. I absolutely love this phone...and highly recommend it.
Btw, and im not sure how, but my gf and I both upgraded our phones on the same account and it only cost us $200 combined. We both sold back our evo's for $88 each. This was all done throu a sprint store...Brent, if you happen to read this THANKS BRO!!!
Finally, they confirmed that the nexus prime will be a verizon only phone. Not sure if that is true or not so you can take that for what you will.
Now bring on root
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I just got it about 20 minutes ago and couldn't be happier. Coming from the evo 4g, the difference is night and day. You can natively ditch any bloatware. So much faster and lighter. I absolutely love this phone...and highly recommend it.
Btw, and im not sure how, but my gf and I both upgraded our phones on the same account and it only cost us $200 combined. We both sold back our evo's for $88 each. This was all done throu a sprint store...Brent, if you happen to read this THANKS BRO!!!
Finally, they confirmed that the nexus prime will be a verizon only phone. Not sure if that is true or not so you can take that for what you will.
Now bring on root
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Verizon has exclusivity for the nexus prime but no one knows for how long. It's gonna have to be released on the other carriers but may not for some time.
Also, I just got back from my Sprint store where I played with the E4GT and it is simply mind blasting! The screen is so beautiful..my NS4G screen was dwarfed next to it...and of course the employees had downloaded all the benchmark apps. Quadrant was 3400 I am really having trouble fighting off the urges to get this phone...screw the iphone 5, lol
This phone is simply fantastic. So very glad I got it.
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I bit the bullet and got it!! haha well at least i have 2 weeks to decide to keep it. hopefully by then the iphone 5 will be announced and unless it is mind blowing, ill keep E4GT
I am in the same boat as the OP, I am upgrade eligible but don't want to jump in because of the next few phone announcements. I am also puzzled about how hush hush this release is, makes it seem like the phone is not important.
I was playing around with it in the Sprint store today and it is an absolutely beautiful phone. I have the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 and I love that device, hopefully the phone has good battery life as well. The only thing I was not sure about was how large the phone is, may not be so comfy in your jeans.

Have I been taking crazy pills?

My contract is up in August and because sprint barely works where I now live, I will be jumping ship to verizon.
I have been planning on picking up the GSIII when I jump, but the last few days the Galaxy Nexus has been looking better and better.
I know that specs wise the GSIII blow the G'Nex out of the water but the dev community on the G'Nex looks pretty awesome and tehre are tons of people building 4.1 roms already.
Specs aren't everything and I know that *most* gnex owners are loving their phones but it's hard to pull the trigger on a phone that is already 8 months old.
Also, I would wait for the next Nexus phone but my girl's contract is up around the same time and we're gonna hop on a family plan. She has a awful Droid 2 and can't wait to get an iPhone. :-/
The only real downfall to the Nexus is no Gorilla Glass. It's only the scratch resistant so it you drop it it's most likely done for.
No GG would be a deal breaker IMO.
I would go with the GSIII, i was at the sprint store today and held the Galaxy Nexus(which I was sure I was switching to when I could) Next to the GSIII and the absolutely beautiful screen, the extraordinarily light weight, the melty buttery smoothness. The GNexus just couldn't compare. If you have to pick now I would go GSIII. IMO
well at the same time, if your going to verizon, there has been alot of news about verizon locking the sgsIII bootloader so no root. but that only matters if your wanting to root.
source #1:
droid-life
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android-central
but then that doesnt mean it wont, or hasnt been rooted. just means might be a little harder to do than with other carriers.
It would appear there is already a guide for rooting it, i didnt read it, but just something to consider...
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no you're not crazy for jumping ship, per se. If the phone service does not work where you're at most of the time, then what are you paying for?
As for phone choices, if you root, I think that takes some heavy consideration. Also, since the SG3 just came out, the community is still building. The Nexus has had about four month start. With all the major carriers taking SG3, it'll come. It'll just have Verzion's quirks.
I would also look at the long term. Assuming you go with the low price you can get, you're looking at phone you'll have to two years. Thus, which phone will be able to handle what you want to do now, and what you think you'll want it do in say, eighteen months. Thus, also specs are not everything, in the long term, they could be important. Developers will design with faster hardware in mind in the future. See the Evo 4g development versus newer phones such as Evo 3D or LTE.
Also, how dare you like the girlfriend go apple. Show her the true power of the greenside, LOL.
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no you're not crazy for jumping ship, per se. If the phone service does not work where you're at most of the time, then what are you paying for?
As for phone choices, if you root, I think that takes some heavy consideration. Also, since the SG3 just came out, the community is still building. The Nexus has had about four month start. With all the major carriers taking SG3, it'll come. It'll just have Verzion's quirks.
I would also look at the long term. Assuming you go with the low price you can get, you're looking at phone you'll have to two years. Thus, which phone will be able to handle what you want to do now, and what you think you'll want it do in say, eighteen months. Thus, also specs are not everything, in the long term, they could be important. Developers will design with faster hardware in mind in the future. See the Evo 4g development versus newer phones such as Evo 3D or LTE.
Also, how dare you like the girlfriend go apple. Show her the true power of the greenside, LOL.
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Yea, the more I think about it the more I think that the GNex is the way to go. The GSIII has some great hardware specs and amazing software features but I know it's just a matter of time before I get bored with touchwiz and go AOSP.
Either way the phone will be rooted but I love the idea that I can almost instantly be on the cutting edge of android roms with the G'Nex. The hardware isn't a big deal. A nicer camera and screen would be great but then again, the camera and screen on my evo have been just fine for me for the last two years.
As for the girl, i tried...Not surprisingly, her crappy droid2 (purchased BEFORE we started dating...I would have never let her buy that ) started slowing to a crawl and getting AWFUL battery life so I backed it up, rooted (pain in the ass) and installed CM7 on it. She likes it but still wants an iPhone bc she's a nursing student and has all her medical dictionary's on her ipad and she can run them on an iphone at the hospital. Ah well, can't win them all
Just in case anyone is reading this...
Does anyone know if I can buy a used phone (thunderbolt or something like that), sign a new verizon contract and activate the phone and then get a discount on another phone down the line?
I'm having trouble pulling the trigger on the G'nex when I could wait a few months and potentially have my pick of a few different nexus devices.

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