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Wi-Drive - Use direct WiFi bet PPC & hard disk

Imagine using Wi-Fi for direct connection between your laptop/PPC (and other end devices) to an external hard disk. Imposssible?
Just read this:-
http://www.edslab.com/products.htm
The product will be launched this coming July 06. Initially, it'll connect to your laptop/notebook. After which driver will be developed for PPC application.
No more expensive memory cards :lol:

You can also look at Asus WL-HDD - althogh this one have some advantages, like the battery and 1.8" size.
I just hope it will be released and that the price will not be too much.

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If I remembers correctly ASUS WL-HDD requires connection through an access point/router whereas the main selling point of Wi-Drive is its direct connection between end devices WITHOUT the need to go through the access point/router. However, you can also network the drive through an access point/router :lol:

I'm using Wl-Hdd since it's release to get my files from my pda. It's working like a charm. It is an access point and router, and you can make it a full linux server easily

Hi,
Just a question and a thought...
With the WL-HDD, is it stand-alone? i.e. does it have an internal power source - or must be connected via a power adaptor?
And can it connect directly to the HTC Universal (without need of a switch or router?).
My thought is, I wonder if anyone has tried to connect an IPOD to a PPC device? wouldn't that be an ideal external HDD device?
Michael G

michaelg said:
With the WL-HDD, is it stand-alone? i.e. does it have an internal power source - or must be connected via a power adaptor?
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The WL-HDD does not have built in battery, you need power adaptor unfortunately.
michaelg said:
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And can it connect directly to the HTC Universal (without need of a switch or router?).
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I haven't tried yet (still deciding if I should buy it or not), but since it's an Access Point it should connect no problem.
michaelg said:
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My thought is, I wonder if anyone has tried to connect an IPOD to a PPC device? wouldn't that be an ideal external HDD device?
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IPOD is not Wireless, you can use it only as an USB memory device.
People had connected their IPODS to USB Host enabled PPCs like FS Loox and it worked fine. Unfortunately there are no HTC converged devices with USB Host functionality at the moment.

Wl-hdd work perfectly as a stand alone product with any PPC. I'm using it for 1,5 years now and it is perfectly working on my universal. No physical connection needed except power source.
As for the Ipod, if you change the wl-hdd firmware, you can connect any USB device in the USB port to get access to it's files. So you cannot plug the ipod to the universal, but you can plug the ipod to the wl-hdd then access it through universal

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Some pictures of Wi-Drive here:-
http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/live-from-cebit-the-widrive-wifi-drive-enclosure/
The enclosure comes with a female connector for the hard disk which means hard disk like the 1.8 inch Toshiba (which comes with a female connector) cannot be used
That leaves us with the 1.8 inch Hitachi brand which comes with a male connector. Not much choice for the 1.8 inch hard disk since currently only 1.8 inch hard disks are only available from Toshiba and Hitachi

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Just spoke to the manufacturer of Wi-Drive today
They will release the drive this coming July. I think I can get one from them before it goes to the market
Capacity : Casing comes with 30 and 60 GB 5400 rpm hard disk (for 1.8 inch)
Best of all!! Can connect direct with PPC besides notebook/laptop. They've an engineering test unit. Just waiting for production now.
Here's the explanation using WiFi. The drive will be recognised as a web folder instead of a drive by the PPC. This web folder will consists of your folders and files and you'll have to use IE browser to access them. Power input is 5V DC using mini USB which means you can charge it from your notebook/laptop USB ports or any external battery pack whihc provides a 5V DC output.
WOW!! Can't wait to lay my hand on one of these

at least there responding to someone...
they dont respond at all to any mails from me :?
i dont know if i like the web folder thingy though...
would prefer if it just showed trough the file explorer, does resco explorer show web folders?
did they tell you the prices with the 30 and 60gb and without any HD?

at least there responding to someone...
they dont respond at all to any mails from me :?
i dont know if i like the web folder thingy though...
would prefer if it just showed trough the file explorer, does resco explorer show web folders?
did they tell you the prices with the 30 and 60gb and without any HD?

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"did they tell you the prices with the 30 and 60gb and without any HD?"
Nope. No pricing figure for the moment. They don't sell to end users because they're the manufacturer. The actual pricing will depend on the retail shops
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"would prefer if it just showed trough the file explorer, does resco explorer show web folders? "
No idea
I guess we just have to sit back and wait patiently

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OK, tested the WiDrive on my Universal today
Looks pretty cool...comes with Hitachi 1.8" 30GB hard disk
Managed to get it connected with my Universal using WiFi and access WiDrive using internet by typing a certain address on the address bar. The drive is treated as a web folder
Once login to WiDrive I'm able to download files to play (or save it) on my Universal
Also, can use my external 8800mAH battery pack (purchased from EastGear) to charge the WiDrive
Some issues though
a) cannot upload file from my SD card to WiDrive...hmmm
b) after playing a song I'll need to re-type the address at the PIE address bar in order to return to WiDrive
c) I think music and video cannot be streamed while playing on the Universal. What I mean is I'll need to download the music/video file to my Universal and the concerned program will be auto activated to play the music/video file.....have to check this further otherwise the drive just acts like another drive
Did not buy yet so no testing on notebook carried out. According to the shop streaming was done using the notebook as a driver is required to be installed on the notebook.
Well, I've discussed with WiDrive's boss on the above issues. Will discuss with their engineer tomorrow and feedback here.
Wow, its an experience. Cost about US$263
:lol:

RE
Sorry for the late reply
There're some changes. I'll be getting a 1.8 inch 60GB IDE Hitachi Travelstar and the Wi-Drive casing separately (cheaper this way) by this weekend. If everything works out fine I'll be reporting back
BTW, I was told by the engineer of EDSLAB that OPERA works better than PIE on their drive

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Sorry, due falls apart. For the 1.8" hard disk Wi-Drive comes with standard 30GB
60GB version will be released later
Some pictures of Wi-Drive here:-
http://sg.vr-zone.com/index.php?i=3827
:lol:

Hmm... Widrive looks good, but WL-HDD is still better in my mind. It can run off a battery (all PSP emergency batterys work, imagine my joy at finding that out!) ,it has an ethernet port for intergration to home networks (you can use it as a wireless access point) and it has USB host, so you can share USB drives, webcams, everything. It also comes up to 100gb, and i bet you itll be cheaper. you could even swap in a 1.8" hdd into the housing and put the battery in the space left, making it a neat solution.

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I've bought the Wi-Drive but only for 30GB model and still testing it
Initial test with OPERA gives pretty good results :lol:

Where can either of these external drives be purchased?

berdinkerdickle said:
Where can either of these external drives be purchased?
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lol... i wouldnt buy one of those. Max = 100mbps on wireless. On wired USB 2.0 or Firewire = 480mbps or 800mbps i think. I use my diamondmax 11 or my cheetah scsi 15k rpm drive and it goes really quick. I put it on wifi by hooking it up to another computer and mapping it or just use remote access. Anything is possible nowadays, i dont have to tell it to you. But it seems this hard drive can exist independently when signal is available. I dont know how that works but i am sure you need a lcd display to select a network or to enter the key. Just like microsoft Zune? Why dont you guys go for microsoft Zune now that i think of it. ^^

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lol... i wouldnt buy one of those. Max = 100mbps on wireless. On wired USB 2.0 or Firewire = 480mbps or 800mbps i think. I use my diamondmax 11 or my cheetah scsi 15k rpm drive and it goes really quick. I put it on wifi by hooking it up to another computer and mapping it or just use remote access. Anything is possible nowadays, i dont have to tell it to you. But it seems this hard drive can exist independently when signal is available. I dont know how that works but i am sure you need a lcd display to select a network or to enter the key. Just like microsoft Zune? Why dont you guys go for microsoft Zune now that i think of it. ^^
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The point of these drives is mass storage on the universal. Read the thread before posting.

Working External Hard Drive for Universal

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=280062 Covers it in better detail, but here is the basic idea (fully working on my Exec for a few months now)
WL-HDD with Oleg firmware. Easy to flash, google it.
PSP Emergency Battery (the one i recommend is good, but any battery with an output current greater then 1000mA seems to work)
Resco file explorer
Connect to the hard drive over Wi-fi (looks just like any other AP)
Map the network drive in Resco (tap-hold the network icon in the explorer)
...Thats it. Appears like a storage card, and files you access are streamed to the device unless you choose to copy them.
Works amazingly, just put the hard drive in a bag or in your car, and access at your leisure.

How does it work with music and/or movie files? This really interesting!
Have you used it w/ TCPMP or other movie players? Can you run executables/programs stored on it for your PDA?

i was looking for something like this but cannot find a version that will translate the us dollar amounts.

Meassure of hd
Pyrojester said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=280062 Covers it in better detail, but here is the basic idea (fully working on my Exec for a few months now)
WL-HDD with Oleg firmware. Easy to flash, google it.
PSP Emergency Battery (the one i recommend is good, but any battery with an output current greater then 1000mA seems to work)
Resco file explorer
Connect to the hard drive over Wi-fi (looks just like any other AP)
Map the network drive in Resco (tap-hold the network icon in the explorer)
...Thats it. Appears like a storage card, and files you access are streamed to the device unless you choose to copy them.
Works amazingly, just put the hard drive in a bag or in your car, and access at your leisure.
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YESSS !!!!! I saw your experience in other post... And finally I bought one. Could you recomend me where to buy a cheap notebook hd in europe?... I am looking for 120 GB or 100 GB... it's ok for you this GB?
Thanks a lot.

The only adequate solution available (AFAIK)
Wi-Fi drives are good but bulky a little bit (and also battery-consuming), however sometime ago I saw some USB hard drive Transcend StoreJet 1.8" OTG USB designed especially for PDAs, MP3 players etc. As far as I recall it had its own battery (up to 4.5 hours operation), so it should work with Universal as well.

leman said:
Wi-Fi drives are good but bulky a little bit (and also battery-consuming), however sometime ago I saw some USB hard drive Transcend StoreJet 1.8" OTG USB designed especially for PDAs, MP3 players etc. As far as I recall it had its own battery (up to 4.5 hours operation), so it should work with Universal as well.
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Yes, but my solution costs £50-£100, depending on where you get it. The drive is big, but as long as you have a bag its fine, just chuck it in the bottom.

hashbrown said:
How does it work with music and/or movie files? This really interesting!
Have you used it w/ TCPMP or other movie players? Can you run executables/programs stored on it for your PDA?
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This automatically streams media files when opened off the drive. Not sure about .exe, but i see no reason why not. I know it can open ROMs off it using pocket snes.

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"Wi-Fi drives are good but bulky a little bit (and also battery-consuming), however sometime ago I saw some USB hard drive Transcend StoreJet 1.8" OTG USB designed especially for PDAs, MP3 players etc. "
According to the link below the device does support PDA, however, the Universal's USB port is meant for charging only and not meant for data transfer unless there's a driver written for it
http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/news/articles/story_7157.html

But don´t work ti me (at the moment)
Hi,
I finally bougth the WL-HDD and a Thosiba Hd 120 GB.... I put the 1.9.2.7-7e Oleg firmeware...
But
1. I don´t know how to access the Wl-hdd, At the moment I can access to the configuration... and conect to it with the universal.
2. Do I have to format the Hard Drive previously?
2. In this case how to format it?
3. I know how wiew in Resco explorer my pc folders... buw I can´t see the Asus...
Do you can give me any recomendation? Perhaps, some links of the asus forum that you follow?
Thanks a lot
Pyrojester said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=280062 Covers it in better detail, but here is the basic idea (fully working on my Exec for a few months now)
WL-HDD with Oleg firmware. Easy to flash, google it.
PSP Emergency Battery (the one i recommend is good, but any battery with an output current greater then 1000mA seems to work)
Resco file explorer
Connect to the hard drive over Wi-fi (looks just like any other AP)
Map the network drive in Resco (tap-hold the network icon in the explorer)
...Thats it. Appears like a storage card, and files you access are streamed to the device unless you choose to copy them.
Works amazingly, just put the hard drive in a bag or in your car, and access at your leisure.
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FOSA said:
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"Wi-Fi drives are good but bulky a little bit (and also battery-consuming), however sometime ago I saw some USB hard drive Transcend StoreJet 1.8" OTG USB designed especially for PDAs, MP3 players etc. "
According to the link below the device does support PDA, however, the Universal's USB port is meant for charging only and not meant for data transfer unless there's a driver written for it
http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/news/articles/story_7157.html
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actually my friend after reading the above link you posted you can store files on the hdd that you posted a link for.It has 2 seperate modes.1. strictly for devices that has a usb for charging .b/ also receives and sends applications,music,etc. from the usb.(i also called the company and ordered one!Thanks for the link m8!)they state if it doesnt work then its rare.some pdas only have a usb to charge/transfer files to a from ,same as a JJ.I do plan on retiring my JJ here soon for the M.A.G.I.C.
which has an internal 8gb HDD
regards

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"actually my friend after reading the above link you posted you can store files on the hdd that you posted a link for.It has 2 seperate modes.1. strictly for devices that has a usb for charging .b/ also receives and sends applications,music,etc. from the usb.(i also called the company and ordered one!Thanks for the link m8!)they state if it doesnt work then its rare.some pdas only have a usb to charge/transfer files to a from ,same as a JJ.I do plan on retiring my JJ here soon for the M.A.G.I.C.
which has an internal 8gb HDD"
Yes, the Transcend StoreJet OTG hard disk drive do have 2 modes.
One is for data transfer - In this mode it acts just like any external hard disk connecting to PC and laptops ("Peripheral" mode)
As quoted
“Standalone” mode allows the StoreJet OTG to function as a host into which a huge range of USB devices can be directly connected for information exchange, backup, management and storage.
But this does not mean you can connect directly to the Pocket PC/PDA and perfrom data transfer. For using the USB port of your PDA/Pocket PC for data transfer that USB post has to eb a host whichi you only can find in a few PDAs like the ACER and LOOX. Alternatively, you can buy a CF USB host card to perform the same function.
In fact if you'll to buy any external OTG USB 2.0 hard disk you'll find that they comes with these 2 modes of transfer. FYI, I do own OTG hard disk.
Instead of using the thread starter's WL-HDD Wi-Fi hard disk you can also use Wi-Drive (below) which I'm using
http://www.edslab.com/products.htm
Advantages are that it comes with a built-in battery or you can connect it using an external hi-cap battery pack without using an AC charger. Another thing is that this Wi-Fi hard disk connects DIRECT to your PDA/Pocket PC WITHOUT the need of going through a wireless network

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"actually my friend after reading the above link you posted you can store files on the hdd that you posted a link for.It has 2 seperate modes.1. strictly for devices that has a usb for charging .b/ also receives and sends applications,music,etc. from the usb.(i also called the company and ordered one!Thanks for the link m8!)they state if it doesnt work then its rare.some pdas only have a usb to charge/transfer files to a from ,same as a JJ.I do plan on retiring my JJ here soon for the M.A.G.I.C.
which has an internal 8gb HDD"
Yes, the Transcend StoreJet OTG hard disk drive do have 2 modes.
One is for data transfer - In this mode it acts just like any external hard disk connecting to PC and laptops ("Peripheral" mode)
As quoted
“Standalone” mode allows the StoreJet OTG to function as a host into which a huge range of USB devices can be directly connected for information exchange, backup, management and storage.
But this does not mean you can connect directly to the Pocket PC/PDA and perfrom data transfer. For using the USB port of your PDA/Pocket PC for data transfer that USB post has to eb a host whichi you only can find in a few PDAs like the ACER and LOOX. Alternatively, you can buy a CF USB host card to perform the same function.
In fact if you'll to buy any external OTG USB 2.0 hard disk you'll find that they comes with these 2 modes of transfer. FYI, I do own OTG hard disk.
Instead of using the thread starter's WL-HDD Wi-Fi hard disk you can also use Wi-Drive (below) which I'm using
http://www.edslab.com/products.htm
Advantages are that it comes with a built-in battery or you can connect it using an external hi-cap battery pack without using an AC charger. Another thing is that this Wi-Fi hard disk connects DIRECT to your PDA/Pocket PC WITHOUT the need of going through a wireless network
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I went to the link you provided and the tab say "Untitled Document"meaning that someone built a site with only one page and you cannot navigate through the site.Although i did do a google search and found the WIDrive but only in overseas markets not here in the United States,Thus expanding my research.I went to Froogle and found several companies that sell them for as low as $95.00.I called the company that i ordered my storejet from and provided the information and they did give me a full refund which i am going to use to purchase the drive that you posted.that is what i really need.Something that i can connect to by wifi and not have to use my home network in order to connect to the drive itself and also freeing up the need to have a ton of cables and cords scattered here and there.So thanks again

Also where did you purchase?i tried several sites and sent out emails but did not find something or someone that gave me suffice information about the wi-drive.Also ,can you use the wifi on your phone to connect to the drive without the need for a network service?Like if you or on the interstate and want to connect to the drive without cables?It does not state on the site or with anyone i spoke to.I am in the united states and would like to know where to get one from .as a soon as you get a chance to reply.
Regards

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I've no problem accessing Wi-Drive site. BTW, Pocket IE don't work well with this drive if you're using with your PDA. You need OPERA to work.
Some pointers include you'll need to purchase your external battery pack if you need to use it outdoor for longer than the specified time. The drive's AC adapter output voltage is 5V and the current is 2A. 2A is a lot of current for fast charging from any battery pack.
What I learnt from their engneer sometimes back is that they're looking into a 60GB version and an external battery pack too.
The contact details for Wi-Drive are as follows
Our Address
20, Ayer Rajah Crescent, #08-26,Singapore 139964
Tel : +65 6873-9918
Fax : +65 6873-9893
For Sales Enquiries :
Email : [email protected]
For Technical Support :
Email : [email protected]
For General/Comment/Feedback :
Email : [email protected]

FOSA said:
I've no problem accessing Wi-Drive site. BTW, Pocket IE don't work well with this drive if you're using with your PDA. You need OPERA to work.
Some pointers include you'll need to purchase your external battery pack if you need to use it outdoor for longer than the specified time. The drive's AC adapter output voltage is 5V and the current is 2A. 2A is a lot of current for fast charging from any battery pack.
What I learnt from their engneer sometimes back is that they're looking into a 60GB version and an external battery pack too.
The contact details for Wi-Drive are as follows
Our Address
20, Ayer Rajah Crescent, #08-26,Singapore 139964
Tel : +65 6873-9918
Fax : +65 6873-9893
For Sales Enquiries :
Email : [email protected]
For Technical Support :
Email : [email protected]
For General/Comment/Feedback :
Email : [email protected]
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Well that is the same email address that i found.I emailed them with no reply.I will try again.Im not looking for a a huge storage drive.20 gb will be suffice for me.Could you supply anymore information?
Regards

FOSA said:
I've no problem accessing Wi-Drive site. BTW, Pocket IE don't work well with this drive if you're using with your PDA. You need OPERA to work.
Some pointers include you'll need to purchase your external battery pack if you need to use it outdoor for longer than the specified time. The drive's AC adapter output voltage is 5V and the current is 2A. 2A is a lot of current for fast charging from any battery pack.
What I learnt from their engneer sometimes back is that they're looking into a 60GB version and an external battery pack too.
The contact details for Wi-Drive are as follows
Our Address
20, Ayer Rajah Crescent, #08-26,Singapore 139964
Tel : +65 6873-9918
Fax : +65 6873-9893
For Sales Enquiries :
Email : [email protected]
For Technical Support :
Email : [email protected]
For General/Comment/Feedback :
Email : [email protected]
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Well that is the same email address that i found.I emailed them with no reply.I will try again.Im not looking for a a huge storage drive.20 gb will be suffice for me.Could you supply anymore information?
I have Opera 8.60 for my JASJAR.
Regards

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"Well that is the same email address that i found.I emailed them with no reply.I will try again"
I think there's a timezone difference. Singapore is on the east while USA is on the west.
Try ond day later. Have you try faxing? Lastly, make a long distance call
Just remember that Singapore is 12hrs ahead of USA (I think so)

thanks.How much was yourwi-drive total?

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"thanks.How much was your wi-drive total?"
About US$191.8

Still no reply from them.I even called numerous times with no answer.

Is it possible to add memory to the kindle fire.

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no but there is promise of usb otg I believe some people have been able to get it to work

I was bummed about the inability to add memory, but I've discovered some pretty cool workarounds.
For one, USB mass storage is working on several of the ICS ROMS I've tried, such as Hellfire KS and my new favorite SGT7. By using a powered USB hub and an app called "Stick Mount", I've been able to mount a 32GB flash drive. Because it requires a powered hub, it's not portable, but it's still cool to have that option.
What I like even better are some software solutions I've found which let me access my media over my wifi network, eliminating the need for physical storage:
BS Player - It's a general media player which runs many audio and video formats. Put it in LAN mode and you can browse shared folders on your PC. One really cool feature is that if you play an audio file over LAN, it can automatically add all of the other files in that folder to the playlist.
X-Plore - a really well-made dual pane file browser which can access folders via LAN and FTP. This is nice for backing up large files and such. The dual pane feature makes it super easy to transfer files from one location to the other.
Anyway, I hope that's helpful.

esteband said:
X-Plore - a really well-made dual pane file browser which can access folders via LAN and FTP. This is nice for backing up large files and such. The dual pane feature makes it super easy to transfer files from one location to the other.
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X-plore is awesome, thanks for the tip.
You can add power for OTG with a USB phone charger
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003M9Z5F6
and 2 AAs on a usb y cable and the whole arrangement will fit in your pocket, depending on how tight your pants are.

follolw up question
Lotek said:
X-plore is awesome, thanks for the tip.
You can add power for OTG with a USB phone charger
<Amazon link removed>
and 2 AAs on a usb y cable and the whole arrangement will fit in your pocket, depending on how tight your pants are.
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Is a powered hub needed for any USB device? I've got an OTG cable and a thumb drive is seen by the KF (using StickMount) and I can see the files on it but the drive becomes inaccessible as soon as I try to access any files on it. It seems as if there is just enough power to fire the drive up but not enough to use it.
I like your idea of a battery pack and a Y cable. How do you have the Y cable arranged (i.e. which end of this configuration gets the base of the Y and which ends get the branches)? If you have a link to the Y cable you used that would be a tremendous help as well. I'm searching right now and there are quite a few out there.

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Is a powered hub needed for any USB device? I've got an OTG cable and a thumb drive is seen by the KF (using StickMount) and I can see the files on it but the drive becomes inaccessible as soon as I try to access any files on it. It seems as if there is just enough power to fire the drive up but not enough to use it.
I like your idea of a battery pack and a Y cable. How do you have the Y cable arranged (i.e. which end of this configuration gets the base of the Y and which ends get the branches)? If you have a link to the Y cable you used that would be a tremendous help as well. I'm searching right now and there are quite a few out there.
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I followed this guy's setup, probably a member here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFEMh0ZYT5M&feature=youtu.be
Amazon links in the description.
It's pretty self explanatory when you see the y cable, there's a male end which goes to the mini USB otg adapter and the 2 forks of the Y cable end in male and female connectors, battery charger on the male and your portable hub or flash drive or whatever plugs into the female.
Power is not needed for absolutely every USB device, many keyboards work fine without it, but the majority of flash drives and all of them over 8 GB (reportedly) require it.

Thanks Lotek. That's perfect. Can't wait to get this all setup now.

[Help] OTG cable problem

Hello, i have bought a OTG adaptor but when i connect a USB pen to my Sony Xperia S it doesn't do anything.
I have also tested:
- USB pen FAT32
- USB pen NTFS
I know that this adaptor is working because the store owner tested it on a tablet and it worked.
Stange thing is that i tried to connect to a zte blade, Galaxy Gios and nexus 7 and it didn't work as well....
However when i connect it to the computer the adaptor works...
Stock .55
No root
Can someone advise me?
Thanks

Root your phone and download USB OTG Helper from the Play Store.

SxperiaS said:
Hello, i have bought a OTG adaptor but when i connect a USB pen to my Sony Xperia S it doesn't do anything.
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I have many FAT32 USB flash drives that work fine with my XPERIA S no problems.
I have not confirmed this myself, but it is possible the amps provided by the Sony XPERIA S(LT26i) could be as low as 100mA.[citation needed]
Can't find any documented specs for XPERIA S and USB power supplied and/or USB flash drive which also has a known documented amp draw for reference.
I'd really quite like to know what amps the XPERIA S USB port provides.
I have a USB thumb drive that doesn't work on my XPERIA S namely the HP v165w 8GB (FAT32 formatted)
It just comes up with a big red warning triangle saying, "USB Power Consumption error"
However the USB thumb drive HP c330w 8GB does work (NTFS formatted)
Many other SanDIsk FAT32 formatted USB thumb drives also work fine. Namely the SanDisk USB 2.0 Cruzer Facet 32GB
I have downloaded Paragon exFAT, NTFS & HFS+ which allows me to successfully mount NTFS formatted flash drives on my root'd XPERIA S.
My 'Desktop' FV-1 Android box with three USB ports/HDMI etc, mounts anything and everything, including the HP v165w 8GB USB thumb drive. So it just means no two Android devices are equal in design and power.

it should work anyway? I've seen a few shots and youtube movies where the USB on-the-go was working on an XS!

SxperiaS said:
Hello, i have bought a OTG adaptor but when i connect a USB pen to my Sony Xperia S it doesn't do anything.
I have also tested:
- USB pen FAT32
- USB pen NTFS
I know that this adaptor is working because the store owner tested it on a tablet and it worked.
Stange thing is that i tried to connect to a zte blade, Galaxy Gios and nexus 7 and it didn't work as well....
However when i connect it to the computer the adaptor works...
Stock .55
No root
Can someone advise me?
Thanks
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连接U盘需要安装一个USB存储管理器的软件(此软件需要root权限和busybox).插入OTG和优盘之后可以看到优盘的灯亮了.之后再点击连接.
这样就可以在SDcard\usbStorage 里看到优盘里的文件.
你也可以连接一个集线器.这样可以连接鼠标键盘之类的.如果你要连接功耗比较大的设备,这样就需要一个带电源的集线器.如果动手能力比较强的话,还可以直接在OTG线上剥开接上电源.
希望有懂中文的....!!!!Hope someone will Chinese!!!

Connecting U disk need to install a USB storage management software (the software requires root permissions and busybox). Insert OTG and USB flash drive's lights. Then click connect.
The USB file so that you can in SDcard \ usbStorage see.
You can also connect a hub so you can connect a mouse and keyboard like if you want to connect to a large power equipment, so that you need a powered hub. Strong practical ability, but also can directly plug in the power in OTG online peel.
this is what google translates for me! pretty weird to read like this. but maybe we can figure it out?!

SNYXPR said:
it should work anyway? I've seen a few shots and youtube movies where the USB on-the-go was working on an XS!
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In my honest option, I agree with SNYXPR, there should be no requirement for additional software on a standard build XPERIA S(LT26i) when using "supported" FAT32 formatted USB storage.
If the FAT32 formatted USB flash drive you have attached to the XPERIA S meets the power requirements you should be fine.
No software I know of is going to boost the power supplied by the MicroUSB port and at best, any application for USB storage is only able to support additional drive formats like NTFS etc.
I've had/have USB flash drives, Logitech Unifying Mouse/Keyboard attached without problems.
I've got a Galaxy Note Connection kit Model: DR03-S2 and that works fine and I'm able to read/write SD cards, MicroSD cards and USB flash drives using it without problems(one attached device in use at any one time).
If you go to the next step and use a powered USB hub, then a wider array of devices can be used with the XPERIA S as the USB hub is providing the power to connect the device. This includes USB printers and FAT32 formatted USB 80GB plus HDD (both IDE and SATA) etc. Also all those FAT32 formatted storage devices that said the XPERIA S did not meet the power requirement work too.
Remember the XPERIA S only support FAT32 formatted storage by default(natively).
As part of my desktop setup I have the following connection.
Sony DK10 dock plugged into a Aten USB switch which is connected to a powered USB Targus 7 port Hub.
This gives me access to USB mouse/keyboard, USB flash drives or USB HDD of any size, printer, SD card reader on my DELL U2410 monitor and etc.
Then it's just a button press to (USB)switch back to my Notebook, Desktop PC and any other device connected as part of my desktop environment.

Thank you for the replies, i think root is not required since i have seen a vídeo made by XperiaBlog that just connects a USB pen drive to Xperia S and it just works. I have tried a Kignston 8 GB and it doesn't connect, not event to nexus 7 ...

[AINOL WINDOWS 8.1 MINI PC] [My REVIEW]

Hi guys & girls here's my review on the Ainol Windows 8.1 Mini pc.
Iv had this little beauty a wile now & im very pleased with it, Great overall quality a really nice looking Mini pc.
Windows 8.1 mini pc Mod Edit: Selling site link removed.
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Windows is activated (Not a trial)
The Ainol windows 8.1 mini pc has an modern looking aluminum case witch doubles a great heatsink (No modding required) and measures 15cm x 10.5cm x 1.4cm and weighs about 12 ounces.
The device looks & feels like its of high end quality and is very well made "That well made i cant open it up as of yet" but as soon as i find a way into it i will upload some photos of the guts. This rely feels like a premium device.
The front of the device has a small power button two full sized usb ports & a star shaped power indecator light,On the rear of the device we have a mini USB 3 port,a micro SD card slot,Mini HDMI output port,a 3.5mm head phone jack port & a 5v DC power port.
In brief
Ainol Windows 8.1 Mini PC TV Box uses a 64 bit Intel Bay Trail-T Z3735D quad core CPU, pre-installed with Windows 8.1 operating system, with 2GB DDR3L RAM and 32GB Emmc ROM, supports Bluetooth 4.0 and wifi. It comes with a USB 3.0 interface and two standard USB 2.0 interfaces. This Mini PC is also a power bank with a 7000mAh battery and can charge for other mobile devices.
Setup
The first thing i did when i got the ainol was to create a backup recovery to a USB stick using this guide for the pipo (Thanks go to Bob for putting this guide together)
http://www.freaktab.com/showthread.php?22092-First-thing-you-should-do-with-the-Pipo-X7
I then let windows do its thing & update everything after several restarts more updates & 3 hours latter i was ready for the next step.
One thing I will say is for some reason the windows updating processing screen is in Chinese:face
Thanks to Trebor there's a fix to get rid of the Chinese writing at the start up ect
Control Panel
Language
Advanced settings
Change override
Apply language settings to welcome screen system account and new user accounts
Window that opens
Welcome Screen and new user accounts
Tick Welcome screen and system accounts and New User
OK
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Then i made a system image backup by following the above guide guide (step3)
I also midified the boot.wim using this guide so my recovery was in english
http://www.freaktab.com/showthread.php?22176-English-Language-Recovery-USB-Disk
After i had done all the above it was time to start playing,When it was fully charged to 100% i upplugged the power lead & iv played some films from a external HD powered by the ainol for just over 6.5 hours now & the battery is at 19%.The ainol is not even warm & I mean no heat at all thats using no external power surply just the built in battery.
Also iv just Installed kodi this runs great (IMO kodi runs better on windows than android)Easy to install & does what it should.
Below screen shot shows CPU temps after almost 3.5 hours of using kodi web streaming
Wifi speed test
Pc wifi download speed test 12 feet from router
Ainol wifi download speed test 12 feet from router
As you can see the download speed seams to drop on the Ainol more or less straight way I don't no whats coursing this maybe some interference from some other devices I have running.
Quick facts
Boot time is 12 seconds
shut down is 3 seconds
logitech c270 webcam works
64GB micro SD works
128GB usb Stick works
Samsung 1TB un powered HD works fine using just the ainol battery
I use an app on my android phone called unified remote to controll my ainol its very simply to use it has mouse & keybored input i highly recomend trying it
https://www.unifiedremote.com/
Ainol Mini PC TV Box specifications:
OS: Windows 8.1
CPU: Intel Baytrail Z3735D quad core, X86
GPU: Intel HD Graphics
RAM: 2GB DDR3L
ROM: 32GB eMMC
Card Extended: Yes, support TF card up to 128GB
Bluetooth: Bluetooth 4.0
WiFi: 802.11b/g/n
G-sensor: 3-axis G-sensor
USB: USB 3.0 and USB 2.0
HDMI: Micro HDMI 1.4
OTG: Supports exfat, NTFS, Fat32 USB - OTG devices
Battery: 7000mAh, can be used as a power bank
Power: DC input 5V, 2500mAh; output 800mAh max
Earphone Interface: 3.5mm
Language: English,Chinese etc.
Video: up to 1080P, AVI, 3GP, MP4, MKV, MOV, MPG, VOB
Audio Formats: MP3, WMA, WAV, MIDI, AAC, APE, MP2, AMR etc
Image Formats: JPG, PNG, BMP, GIF
Ports
1 x USB 3.0 (Micro)
2 x USB 2.0
1 x Earphone jack
1 x Micro HDMI Port
1 x TF Card Slot
1 x DC Port
What's in the package
1 x Ainol mini TV Box
1 x Charger Adaptor
1 x HDMI Cable
1 x Manuel
1 x Warranty Card
Unboxing Video
Sorry about the quality I was in a rush to try this baby out + im not a big fan of unboxing video's but I no some are so here it is.
View My Video
I got mine from Mod Edit: Selling site link removed.

I just recently bought the same ainol mini windows 8.1 pc with the air mouse which works great. can you please explain whether you are getting audio out of the hdmi cable?
I am getting no audio at all from the hdmi cable and drivers etc are upto date according to the device manager with no yellow exclamation mark. I would really hate to plug in an av cable.
I really look forward to your experience with audio out via the hdmi cable. Please note all basics such as turn off mute, check tv/amplifier volume is up etc are all correct.

stealthdragonb said:
I just recently bought the same ainol mini windows 8.1 pc with the air mouse which works great. can you please explain whether you are getting audio out of the hdmi cable?
I am getting no audio at all from the hdmi cable and drivers etc are upto date according to the device manager with no yellow exclamation mark. I would really hate to plug in an av cable.
I really look forward to your experience with audio out via the hdmi cable. Please note all basics such as turn off mute, check tv/amplifier volume is up etc are all correct.
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Hello there.
My Aniol did not come with a air mouse
The audio works fine for me with just using the HDMI lead I had to change nothing in the settings it worked fine out the box.
I have seen this on another intel tv box you may need to open Control Panel and go to the sound settings and change the default to the other output device.
Blinkone

blinkone said:
Hello there.
My Aniol did not come with a air mouse
The audi works fine for me with just using the HDMI lead I had to change nothing in the settings it worked fine out the box.
I have seen this on another intel tv box you may need to open Control Panel and go to the sound settings and change the default to the other output device.
Blinkone
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I had to pay an extra $20 or so for the air mouse. What is really upsetting is that I have tried a number of things to get audio via hdmi out but nothing is working. There is also no other option in the control panel to change the default which is on the headphone jack which gives out sound.
I have tried installing drivers, restarting the mini pc with hdmi already plugged in etc etc but nothing is working. Do you have any other suggestions?

stealthdragonb said:
I had to pay an extra $20 or so for the air mouse. What is really upsetting is that I have tried a number of things to get audio via hdmi out but nothing is working. There is also no other option in the control panel to change the default which is on the headphone jack which gives out sound.
I have tried installing drivers, restarting the mini pc with hdmi already plugged in etc etc but nothing is working. Do you have any other suggestions?
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Iv lost sound now a few times I go to control panel/hardware & sound/sound
Play back tab
Select HDTV
Set as default
Apply
Also have you done the windows update mine took over 3 hours to insltall all the updates when I first got it

Windows update did begin yesterday although I might have shut down before everything installed. I will need to double check this.
As for the sound option in control panel, I do not get HDTV to show up at all. All I get is the first option in written in chinese

I can confirm after the update, everything is now working by selecting the tv under sounds in control panel.
Thanks heaps!
now if there was some way of just getting rid of this chinese text which appears when booting or installing certain stuff. I have changed language etc and cleared cache.

stealthdragonb said:
I can confirm after the update, everything is now working by selecting the tv under sounds in control panel.
Thanks heaps!
now if there was some way of just getting rid of this chinese text which appears when booting or installing certain stuff. I have changed language etc and cleared cache.
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Glad you got the sound sorted anyway
heres a driver pack good to keep by you side
http://drp.su/
Yes you can get rid of the Chinese text
Thanks to Trebor from freaktab there's a fix for this
Control Panel
Language
Advanced settings
Change override
Apply language settings to welcome screen system account and new user accounts
Window that opens
Welcome Screen and new user accounts
Tick Welcome screen and system accounts and New User
OK
Works perfect no more Chinese

Hi,
could you test the usb3 performance at the port and file transfer over wifi?
Would like to use it as a media pc connected to my tv and as a kind of media server with a external usb3 drive.

marcleinen said:
Hi,
could you test the usb3 performance at the port and file transfer over wifi?
Would like to use it as a media pc connected to my tv and as a kind of media server with a external usb3 drive.
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Hi
Quick tests USB 3 port file transfer from USB 3 stick =11.5 MB/s With this lead
I think this would be better, The above lead was only a cheap one.
Wifi file transfer from my pc to the Ainol =3.2MB/s

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Hi all,
I just ordered one after reading your review.
I lost my big desktop about a year ago and have relied on my new Dell XPS 12 2 in 1. Its a nice laptop (or notebook, whatever they call these things today).
I had everything on my desktop, I really used it as a file server.
I was trying to save up money to get another large desktop with a lot of bays to hold all my hard drives and I wanted a PC that had at least 8 SATA version 3.0 ports built into the motherboard. My dead PC had 6 SATA version 1.0.
As of today, I still had the internal hard drives installed in the cage, that was inside the case.
It ran on 2 128GB SSD's setup as RAID 0 and 2 2TB HDD setup as RAID 1.
The SSD drives were setup as the System Drive, this thing booted in seconds, very fast.
The HDD drives were setup as my Data Drive, not as fast but well protected since they were mirrored using RAID 1.
The only thing that broke was the motherboard.
Oh, it had 8 or 16 GB of RAM (probably 8GB, my memory is shaky), running 64bit Windows 8.1 on a Quad Core CPU.
It wasn't the fast gaming machine, but it was good enough for me.
I had attached 2 24 inch monitors that had both HDMI and WVGA ports. The monitors were from HP and are able to be positioned in either Landscape (typical setting) and Portrait mode.
I don't know why I just didn't buy a new motherboard, maybe because it was about 6 years old.
Anyway, in the meantime, I found a backup of my DATA drives and purchased a 3TB HDD which I connected to my Asus RT-AC68U router that comes with 2 USB 3.0 ports, So the 3TB HDD is connected to one of the ports and the other port has my Dymo label printer. My other printers are wireless.
So that is my current setup and its OK the way its working but I niss having my desktop and miss using the large monitors. (I know I could hookup one monitor to the laptop, but I keep the laptop in another room.
But I do want access to the real DATA drives, that backup I used was old and some stuff is missing.
So tonight I purchased 2 different kinds of NAS devices. One cheapo ($60) which has 4 USB ports and one Ethernet port. Its supposed to allow the drives to be seen on the network.
The other NAS device is 4 drive capable housing by Buffalo, also pretty cheap ($189).
I guess I have to wait to see if either of these two work for me.
Then i came across your mention of this AINOL mini PC.
When searching for the NAS stuff, I thought I could just get a PC on a stick and attach some of the drives to it and make then shareable. A poor man's NAS system.
But when I saw this AINOL is was the only thing I found that came with USB 3.0 ports, all the others only had USB 2.0 ports (very old out of the gate).
The last thing I noticed is that this sucker is portable and battery operated! Wow, the possibilities! And able to recharge my smartphone!
It has the right amount of ports to be very useful.
Now to end this, how fast is this thing anyway.
Is it an Intel Atom chip? If it is those are deadly slow for real work, but using it as a file server maybe not so bad?
How is it to really use?
Will I be totally disappointed? I do recognize it will never be as fast as what I had, but if its as good as my laptop (this Dell XPS 12 2 in 1, which comes with an Intel i7 chip 64bit).
I am going to come back here when it arrives to follow your instructions on how to make an emergency recover image and an of the other suggestions you listed here.
And yes, I have plenty of Bluetooth keyboards with mouse combos.
I'm not sure what else I should plan on having or doing before it arrives.
Thank you!
Rob
P.S. I ordered it before I noticed your 10 percent coupon, oh well!

rlanza1054 said:
Hi all,
I just ordered one after reading your review.
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Well welcome to the Ainol club..I don't think you will be disappointed with the speed at all im very happy with mine I just love the fact its portable has a built in battery that will last for at least 5 or 6 hours & has a 10 second boot up time..

I got one as well, but the problem which I found the hard way is that, it appear I can't boot any USB media, linux or Win7/8. So it just locked to the half-chinese Win 8 w/ Bing that's already on the drive. It's just slightly better than a door stop at this point. If somebody found a way to get around that it would be great.

someone0 said:
I got one as well, but the problem which I found the hard way is that, it appear I can't boot any USB media, linux or Win7/8. So it just locked to the half-chinese Win 8 w/ Bing that's already on the drive. It's just slightly better than a door stop at this point. If somebody found a way to get around that it would be great.
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Just change the language settings to english.
Looks like there are a few drivers which have been installed in chinese, these may be able to be reinstalled in english.
Its fully functional win8.1, it probably has a locked bootloader like the surface so probably tough boot off anything other than the stock OS.
"win 8.1 with bing" is no different from standard win 8.1, but its free for OEMs.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2158...1-with-bing-for-low-cost-pcs-and-tablets.html

Hi it tells you in the first post how to get rid of the Chinese & its very simple to do too

can anyone confirm the usb 3 performance. Result posted by blinkone doesnt seems to be like a usb 3 speed
darn... nvm... just found out that Z3735F doesnt have usb 3 ((

Hi, I just received mine but it does not work. It simply starts the booting process, but it never gets to actually load Windows and make the whole thing usable. It just shows a black screen after the EFI loading screen and it doesn't get past that. Has anyone any idea about what to do in these cases? I tried resetting the PC without luck; enabling or disabling fast boot and secure boot (they were disabled by default, by the way) did not work.

blinkone said:
Hi it tells you in the first post how to get rid of the Chinese & its very simple to do too
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Sure, it's simple to do if you read and understand Chinese. Try doing it when you're staring at a jumble of Chinese characters. I just finished the setup of my Ainol completely in Chinese -- what a frustrating process that was! I wish I'd taken a crash course in Mandarin first.

Hi everyone, I also purchased this mini PC. I'm curious if it's possible to install linux on this box? It the BIOS similar to that of a PC? Could I plug an external drive into the USB 3.0, and then install Ubuntu or something like that on it? I was thinking of using this as a little mini server.