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[Q] No 4g coverage in my area

So I was thinking about getting the GS24G but I have no 4G coverage in my area. I know this could be considered the best phone on the market but would you pick it up if you have no 4G coverage? That's my deciding factor. This is a beast of a phone but I do not know if I want to be stuck with Sprint's 3G coverage.

I have the E4GT and don't get 4G. Thankfully Sprints network, regarding 3G isn't too bad where I live.

rllong1 said:
So I was thinking about getting the GS24G but I have no 4G coverage in my area. I know this could be considered the best phone on the market but would you pick it up if you have no 4G coverage? That's my deciding factor. This is a beast of a phone but I do not know if I want to be stuck with Sprint's 3G coverage.
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There is no 4G where I live (40 miles north of Los Angeles) but EVERYWHERE else there is and I have never really *had* to use 4G. 3G is plenty good.
Best. Phone. Ever. ET4G!

rllong1 said:
So I was thinking about getting the GS24G but I have no 4G coverage in my area. I know this could be considered the best phone on the market but would you pick it up if you have no 4G coverage? That's my deciding factor. This is a beast of a phone but I do not know if I want to be stuck with Sprint's 3G coverage.
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dood i just coughed up my 3D for this today....i mean i get 4G (that i never ever, ever USe by the way) and i can def say that i get a much better signal where i live....i live just north of boston and i get decent 3G all over but with my 3D it really sucked....i'd say go for it....all my buddy were bustin my balls cause i was contimplating keeping my EVO....it was a great decision, this thing is blazing fast.,.....i just gotta get used to TW till we get somethign else

reverepats said:
dood i just coughed up my 3D for this today....i mean i get 4G (that i never ever, ever USe by the way) and i can def say that i get a much better signal where i live....i live just north of boston and i get decent 3G all over but with my 3D it really sucked....i'd say go for it....all my buddy were bustin my balls cause i was contimplating keeping my EVO....it was a great decision, this thing is blazing fast.,.....i just gotta get used to TW till we get somethign else
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Ohai!
Yeah I have no 4g... Never stopped me from getting any of the dualcore phones ive gotten (all 4g capable)
3g is decent in my area aswell...
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I'm in a 4G saturated area and I never have 4G, big deal. I wouldn't use it for browsing...it isn't that much faster for browsing. If I had a big download I would use it, it makes a giant difference for that...but I keep it off even if I could get it cuz my battery is far more important than 4G to me. Shaving 3 or 4 hours off of my battery to shave 1 or 2 seconds off of every page load just ain't worth it to me.

Sprint's 4G speed is not that great to me.In my area I get around 8mb with a MyTouch 4G and almost 20 on a Thunderbolt. Sprint's 3G gets me half a mb if I'm lucky. I def want the ET4G but I'm trying to weigh whether the phone is that much better than anything else to put up with the 3G speeds.
If any of you guys have a Photon. What do you prefer?

rllong1 said:
Sprint's 4G speed is not that great to me.In my area I get around 8mb with a MyTouch 4G and almost 20 on a Thunderbolt. Sprint's 3G gets me half a mb if I'm lucky. I def want the ET4G but I'm trying to weigh whether the phone is that much better than anything else to put up with the 3G speeds.
If any of you guys have a Photon. What do you prefer?
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Ive had the photon, evo 3d, and now the epic touch
Photon had great reception for calls vs evo 3d... But I epic touch wins
Data in my area was faster with the photon but the epic.touch still beats the 3d...
And gps on.all three seems better than last years line up
I hated the.shape of the photon but loved the dedicated camera buttons on the 3d and.photon... But the epic touch is still faster better.screen and thinner..... I dunnk thats my first opinion of all three hope it helps...
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rllong1 said:
Sprint's 4G speed is not that great to me.In my area I get around 8mb with a MyTouch 4G and almost 20 on a Thunderbolt. Sprint's 3G gets me half a mb if I'm lucky. I def want the ET4G but I'm trying to weigh whether the phone is that much better than anything else to put up with the 3G speeds.
If any of you guys have a Photon. What do you prefer?
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I wouldn't come to Sprint just for a phone. The network sucks and gets worse every day. I left them last week.

What company did you go to. What phone did you get?

I've had AT&T and Sprint both for a while now. AT&T for work and Sprint for personal. I'm using a Captivate on AT&T and my account has unlimited data. Over the past few months I've been comparing the Captivate to the Epic around many different places in town and the Captivate always wins out for speed and reliability. Running CM7 with the i9000 modem the data is pretty fast and battery life is almost double what I was getting with the Epic. What prompted me to start considering this was the fact that Sprint started screwing people out of their annual upgrades back in April. They changed the criteria of what qualified you so barely any one qualified any more. Network coverage has been getting worse since they did that as well. So I'm using my work phone for personal use now with a google voice number to keep things separated. Dad ported out to Verizon and gets better coverage and call quality is so much better which I attribute to 50/50 phone and network. Wife is still on Sprint till the next best keyboard phone comes out. She'll probably ride out her Epic till it explodes then we'll figure it out.

Foolish to buy Wimax device now?

With all the hubbub surrounding the Clearwire Wimax deal that was signed for the next few years, and the looming launch of LTE (mid-2012?), is it really foolish to sign a new contract and get a Wimax device?
All of the LTE devices I've seen on VZW/AT&T have atrocious battery life at the expense of crazy speeds (20Mbps+). A few coworkers got the Droid Bionic and barely make it to the end of the work day. Old college roommate works for AT&T and he says most of their LTE stuff needs extended batteries in order to be usable for a whole day.
Frankly I can live with Wimax's 3-5Mbps if it means I don't have to keep hovering around a charger all day. The Epic 4G Touch is so very tempting but I'm afraid I'm committing to "old" tech and that in 12 months I'll have regretted it.
(current VZW customer off-contract with an OG Droid)

dparm said:
With all the hubbub surrounding the Clearwire Wimax deal that was signed for the next few years, and the looming launch of LTE (mid-2012?), is it really foolish to sign a new contract and get a Wimax device?
All of the LTE devices I've seen on VZW/AT&T have atrocious battery life at the expense of crazy speeds (20Mbps+). A few coworkers got the Droid Bionic and barely make it to the end of the work day. Old college roommate works for AT&T and he says most of their LTE stuff needs extended batteries in order to be usable for a whole day.
Frankly I can live with Wimax's 3-5Mbps if it means I don't have to keep hovering around a charger all day. The Epic 4G Touch is so very tempting but I'm afraid I'm committing to "old" tech and that in 12 months I'll have regretted it.
(current VZW customer off-contract with an OG Droid)
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First and foremost the spectrum allocated to Sprint's WiMax sucks. It's a razor thin chunk. That is why Sprint's 4G sucks...LTE isn't inherently better in this regard. If LTE was on the same crappy spectrum it would suck too.
When you can connect to WiMax it's fantastic. I used to get 12-15mbps all day long in my area. Now it's in the 3-8mbps range depending on time of day.
That razor thin strip of spectrum allocated to Sprint/Clearwire's "4G" WiMax makes your connection easily disrupted by such disturbances as a closed window or a stiff breeze...seriously. If you aren't in a very solid 4G area (don't ask Sprint or Clearwire, ask people who have the service in your area) I wouldn't bank on getting a 4G signal very often, if at all. When a rom comes out that doesn't support 4G I don't care at all...yeah, it can be that bad.
With that out of the way it should be noted that you likely won't have Sprint LTE coverage in your area for at least a year, likely 2, maybe 3 or 4. Sprint has some rosy estimates flying around right now, but, I remember how their 3G and 4G rollouts went, so, I wouldn't take their word with a grain of salt...I would outright disregard it.
So where does this leave you? Most likely in an area with sparse (if any) 4G and LTE anywhere from 1.5-3 years away and you want a phone now.
Luckily Sprint's 3G service is improving quickly around the country--quicker in some places than others of course. Also the level of improvement will vary wildly depending on many factors, so, don't even bet on the future...especially when it's in Sprint's hands.
My advice? If you want to be/stay on Sprint and are currently satisfied with your service and would also like the ET4G, well, just go get it. By time your contract is up the LTE devices will actually exist and the LTE will be rolled out and WiMax will still be up and running and hopefully the 3G network is up to snuff.
EDIT: As a current Vzw customer you will likely be either disappointed or even horrified by Sprint's current 3G speeds. Ask around, some markets/areas have amazing performance. Where I live is so-so. I'm now getting 600-1000kbps regularly, though last month it was 300-500kbps. However 5 miles away at my friends house I actually saw 2.8mbps and killer 15mbps 4G all the time. Many people here are nowhere near as lucky as either me or my friend, so, ask around....you can never tell.

I'm in downtown Chicago, so I'm sure that it'll be a high priority area for deployment.
My job is 100% travel though, so for a few months at a time I could be anywhere else in the US (Mon-Fri). Typically it's big cities though, like Houston, NYC, Miami, Denver, etc. I just want something fast but consistent. Voice quality/coverage is priority 1, then battery, then data speeds.
I visited two Sprint stores in different parts of the city this week and the web browsing on their 4G seemed plenty fast.

dparm said:
I'm in downtown Chicago, so I'm sure that it'll be a high priority area for deployment.
My job is 100% travel though, so for a few months at a time I could be anywhere else in the US (Mon-Fri). Typically it's big cities though, like Houston, NYC, Miami, Denver, etc. I just want something fast but consistent. Voice quality/coverage is priority 1, then battery, then data speeds.
I visited two Sprint stores in different parts of the city this week and the web browsing on their 4G seemed plenty fast.
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I travel for work sometimes. Chicago is covered in 4G as are most major metropolitan areas.
So far as voice/text ("2G") is concerned you will be well served everywhere. Sprint has pretty thorough 2G coverage and you will roam on Verizon if not. You get "Unlimited" Roaming. If you roam too much they'll give you the boot. I wouldn't worry about it.
So long as you understand all said about 4G and are fine with that 3G is the only real sticking point and is as I described earlier. You will roam on Verizon (at 1x, ick...but we have ways around that if you are forced to roam momentarily), but, it's usually not Sprint's coverage so much as the performance. I personally have never experienced horribly un-usable 3G anywhere...even tethered to my laptop. But I haven't gone on any business trips in the past 9 months when things have gone downhill rapidly--or so the posts here would have me believe.

I'd say buy a VZW phone outright and stay out of contract. Their speeds will be faster as well as the reliability. If this were my only phone I would've dove headfirst off a bunk bed.
I have a company Blackberry on AT&T and a regular feature phone on AT&T so I'm covered service wise. To give you an idea AT&T's HSDPA (3.5G) technology is faster than Sprint's faux 4G.
I love this phone but something needs to happen soon or people are going to leave in droves. The phone is awesome but the service is something to be desired.
I'm in Northern NJ by the way.
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Lately the Verizon 3G coverage in downtown Chicago and the burbs have been sucking. I have updated my PRL several times and even flashed a different ROM just to be certain.

I get 4g in plenty of places. (I live in the bay area). Sprint just gave clear some money so I'm still good with buying my next wimax phone. From what I see and hear, lte isn't better than wimax just yet. Fastest speed I've seen is on hspa+ 22mbps.

I think its a waste if you live in an area like I do that doesn't have Wimax and never will.

I am coming from Verizon and the Thunderbolt and until phones get better battery's lte is not worth it unless you want 8 to 12 hours of battery depending on your usage(on my wifi and 4g and 3g service with sprint after 16hours of usage moderate I have 33% life left) In a few years when sprint gets lte maybe batterys will be caught up. Or if sprint doesnt ill switch to at&t or Verizon again. But I am happy with sprint. And I love this phone
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I have known since the beginning of the year when the Galaxy S II became available internationally that that was the phone I wanted to upgrade to. The decider for me to go for the Epic Touch 4G variant on Sprint was the truly unlimited data. I was off contract on AT&T, and even though I was fortunate enough to actually get very good service in my area on AT&T, I liked the idea of never having to worry about my data usage, no matter how I might choose to use my phone.
I don't generally get as good data coverage on Sprint as I did on AT&T, but when I do have service it is generally faster than what I got on AT&T, most especially on 4G. And when it does lose Sprint coverage, it roams on Verizon towers, so I really am never completely without service.
And the phone itself is great. No regrets there.

Thanks. Like I said, Verizon's coverage down here lately seems really lousy. The data speed is "acceptable". My OG Droid is still hanging on by a thread and I am still on an unlimited data plan, though I rarely go over 2-3GB per month.
I'm having trouble finding Chicago Sprint owners to comment on coverage and data speeds, though. Only one or two friends of mine have it and they're not really geeky enough to know what I'm interested in...they see a phone as a phone.

dparm said:
Thanks. Like I said, Verizon's coverage down here lately seems really lousy. The data speed is "acceptable". My OG Droid is still hanging on by a thread and I am still on an unlimited data plan, though I rarely go over 2-3GB per month.
I'm having trouble finding Chicago Sprint owners to comment on coverage and data speeds, though. Only one or two friends of mine have it and they're not really geeky enough to know what I'm interested in...they see a phone as a phone.
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You definitely needs to find someone. You do have a buyer's remorse period you could use.
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CODteabagger said:
You definitely needs to find someone. You do have a buyer's remorse period you could use.
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Yes, the 30 day return period is nice. Would give me a shot at really test driving the thing.
Any suggestions on how to get some real details on Chicago Wimax and voice?

wimax will be around thru 2015 at the least... buying a wimax device now wouldnt be the end of the world.
also.. the first sprint lte devices wont get super awesome. and we wont be seeing the good lte chips(the ones that work on multiple bands) until 2013(sprints 2nd lte gen).

Upgrading to a Wimax phone this year seems fine. And you can enjoy the unlimited data. It will set you up to upgrade in 2013, when new phones will be ready to utilize Sprint's LTE (800MHz/1.9GHz) and Clear's LTE-Advanced (2.5GHz).

dparm said:
Yes, the 30 day return period is nice. Would give me a shot at really test driving the thing.
Any suggestions on how to get some real details on Chicago Wimax and voice?
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It's 14 days now.

daneurysm said:
It's 14 days now.
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Ooo that sucks. It'll probably get ****ty 3G speeds on the 15th day.
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CODteabagger said:
I'd say buy a VZW phone outright and stay out of contract. Their speeds will be faster as well as the reliability. If this were my only phone I would've dove headfirst off a bunk bed.
I have a company Blackberry on AT&T and a regular feature phone on AT&T so I'm covered service wise. To give you an idea AT&T's HSDPA (3.5G) technology is faster than Sprint's faux 4G.
I love this phone but something needs to happen soon or people are going to leave in droves. The phone is awesome but the service is something to be desired.
I'm in Northern NJ by the way.
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Yea Im gonna have to disagree here, one of my customer just bought a skyrocket from att and my touch destroyed his phones speeds while he was on the socalled 4gLTE hspa+ network and I was only in a 3g area (all of san diego county) there is nothing faux bout WiMax, it is all a money issue when it comes down to it.

Yes I am anxious for LTE-A as well as more power efficient radios. I remember when the first "3G" stuff came out years ago (HSDPA or whatever)...the battery life sucked but within a year or two they got it worked out.

daneurysm said:
...Sprint's 4G sucks... When a rom comes out that doesn't support 4G I don't care at all...yeah, it can be that bad.
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Yeah, it's not anything to write home about.
But I mostly use wifi at home and work so I'm not too put out by the slow speeds.
It is good enough to have a halfway decent skype session, youtube, etc...
I was hoping to get some gaming action though.
That ain't happening unless it's on wifi, at least in my area.

LTE vs HSPA+ Pros and Cons ?

Can anyone explain this to me ? All I hear is LTE kills battery, so whats the point of LTE when T-mobile HSPA+ 42Mbps has pretty much the same speed as LTE without causing any battery drain. And why would you need 30Mbps anyway on a limited data plan ? My current Tmobile 3G (not 4G or HSPA+) pulls anywhere from 2.5-5.0 Mbps right now....on older HD2 and Nexus One

GSM version of Galaxy Nexus on T-Mobile does not go up to 41Mbps speeds. It can only go up to 21Mb (this is the reasoning why Galaxy S2 on T-Mobile went with Qualcomm's CPU instead of Samsung's Exynos to hit 41Mbps speeds), this is all speaking theoretically as well. Realistically, I haven't gotten to those speeds.
And people "need 30Mbps" on their phones simply because.... they can.

HSPA+ in its current implementation is definitely not as fast as Verizon's LTE, but as you said it surely is fast and it is more than enough for most people. You can definitely expect upwards of 10mbps down, which is great.
Its really a personal call. Some people are on Verizon because its the only carrier available consistently in their area, or they've been a long-time customer, or they're part of a family plan with others on Verizon.
If you're on T-mobile and happy with your service, you're definitely saving money staying with them. If you can buy it unlocked it is definitely a good choice. You're not missing out on anything by staying with T-Mo and the HSPA+ Galaxy Nexus.

Cause we like to stream stuff?
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zephiK said:
GSM version of Galaxy Nexus on T-Mobile does not go up to 41Mbps speeds. It can only go up to 21Mb (this is the reasoning why Galaxy S2 on T-Mobile went with Qualcomm's CPU instead of Samsung's Exynos to hit 41Mbps speeds), this is all speaking theoretically as well. Realistically, I haven't gotten to those speeds.
And people "need 30Mbps" on their phones simply because.... they can.
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Whats your speed in NYC ?
martonikaj said:
HSPA+ in its current implementation is definitely not as fast as Verizon's LTE, but as you said it surely is fast and it is more than enough for most people. You can definitely expect upwards of 10mbps down, which is great.
Its really a personal call. Some people are on Verizon because its the only carrier available consistently in their area, or they've been a long-time customer, or they're part of a family plan with others on Verizon.
If you're on T-mobile and happy with your service, you're definitely saving money staying with them. If you can buy it unlocked it is definitely a good choice. You're not missing out on anything by staying with T-Mo and the HSPA+ Galaxy Nexus.
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My buddy has been testing his Nexus and Droid X on Verizon....Nexus got up to 27mbps and DroidX on 3G pulled only 500kbps. I mean I would rather get constant 2-3mbps then switchs between LTE 27m and CDMA 500k. I want to switch to Verizon because it will be the same price as Tmobile, but I am affraid that LTE will kill battery and CDMA is dirt slow. I am in Boston area by the way.
also some reviews say that LTE kills battery while car charging....this just scares me.....i can stream music + use Google navigation at the same time and have brightness at auto and i still dont charge my phone in car....my 1250 battery in HD2 lasts 12-14 hours on that heavy use.

kolyan said:
but I am affraid that LTE will kill battery and CDMA is dirt slow.
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Both of these things are very true.

I have the LTE nexus, and yes, LTE does do a number on the battery, and yes, it is ever so slightly thicker. however, I'm pulling 10 mb/s down in a very poor coverage area, and a reliable 40+ mb/s down when I get closer to the city. (I live on an away facing side of a hill a few miles outside of a town). Also, without 4g, atleast in my area, I can pull 1-2 mb/s down, but thats not as reliable. I like that speed, and I am willing to charge my phone twice in a day.
In all reality, you wont notice too much of a difference between 10-20 mb/s (HSPA+) and 30-50 mb/s (LTE in my area) on a phone. What you will notice is the difference between coverage and no coverage. Which again favors the Verizon model.

These are THEORETICAL max speeds you are talking about.
In reality the speeds you get will be no where close to the theoretical max speeds the technology can handle. Those speeds might be attainable if you are the only one on the network and are standing under a cell tower.
T-Mobile HSPA+ speeds in NYC are 5.4mbps down, and 1.6mbps up (tested on my friend's International Galaxy Nexus)
LTE max theoretical speed is 299.6 mbps. In reality the speeds I tested in NYC on my Verizon Galaxy Nexus are 26.79mbps down and 7.20mbps up.
http://www.speedtest.net/android/114425608.png

Results will vary but I pull 1-1.5Mbps on 3g so I can live with that. Verizon is the only carrier at my house. T-Mobile doest have coverage in the rural area where I live. If I went with them I'd only have service at work and while running errands downtown.
I get 3g at home and LTE just a few miles away. Part of me wishes that I could use T-Mobile but its not practical where I live and do business.
One last thing, LTE reception is great in the basement of my workplace!
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I'm curious to see Verizon LTE speeds once people start buying LTE phones.

It is almost important to note that LTE is not only faster, but also capable of keeping the signal while you are moving rather fast. Like in cars and trains
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I get 40-50 mb/s down and 10-20 up, thats why

kolyan said:
Can anyone explain this to me ? All I hear is LTE kills battery, so whats the point of LTE when T-mobile HSPA+ 42Mbps has pretty much the same speed as LTE without causing any battery drain. And why would you need 30Mbps anyway on a limited data plan ? My current Tmobile 3G (not 4G or HSPA+) pulls anywhere from 2.5-5.0 Mbps right now....on older HD2 and Nexus One
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I think you are answering your own question. TMo and AT&T will be slower but use less battery. In the end I'd just decide if you want to be on Verizon or want a GSM phone. Your call.
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kolyan said:
Can anyone explain this to me ? All I hear is LTE kills battery, so whats the point of LTE when T-mobile HSPA+ 42Mbps has pretty much the same speed as LTE without causing any battery drain. And why would you need 30Mbps anyway on a limited data plan ? My current Tmobile 3G (not 4G or HSPA+) pulls anywhere from 2.5-5.0 Mbps right now....on older HD2 and Nexus One
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LTE does kill the battery, but there is an extended battery (Still, I'm not sure how well the battery life improves with the extended battery)
The speed is all about how you feel and what you need. I'd say if you get great LTE coverage in your area and where you're going to be and you'd be fine with the smaller battery life and such, go for the LTE model. HSPA+ speeds are proven to be slower than the LTE speeds (i've seen some users get up to 15-16 down and 12-13 UP while HSPA+ get's us 8-10 DOWN 5-9 UP) But what are you going to do with the 15 mb/s speed?
Since you are T-Mobile, I don't know if you're going to have to switch data plans to access the HSPA+ speeds as some people who are on AT&T (including me) had to do this as well.

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I get 40-50 mb/s down and 10-20 up, thats why
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And what can you do with that, that you can't do with 10 mb/s down on HSPA+?

[hfm] said:
I think you are answering your own question. TMo and AT&T will be slower but use less battery. In the end I'd just decide if you want to be on Verizon or want a GSM phone. Your call.
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lol...not that easy. I am on Tmo with contract (200 to break now and 100 in a month) I very much prefer GSM over Verizon, but my wife doesn't get any service at work. I am somewhat happy with Tmo, I get service everywhere but when I go places like skiing there is usually just 2g with GPRS or EDGE at best.....I have no idea about Verizon. My battery is just amazing.... I never use any chargers other then at night. Price for service will be the same at both, but I will have to make new 2 year contract at Verizon, I will also get Nexus for myself at $150 and Incredible for wife for free....so new phones is nice to get... my wife not really happy with current Nexus One and I would love to have GN. If I stay with Tmo.... paying 650+ for NS is pricy....

kolyan said:
lol...not that easy. I am on Tmo with contract (200 to break now and 100 in a month) I very much prefer GSM over Verizon, but my wife doesn't get any service at work. I am somewhat happy with Tmo, I get service everywhere but when I go places like skiing there is usually just 2g with GPRS or EDGE at best.....I have no idea about Verizon. My battery is just amazing.... I never use any chargers other then at night. Price for service will be the same at both, but I will have to make new 2 year contract at Verizon, I will also get Nexus for myself at $150 and Incredible for wife for free....so new phones is nice to get... my wife not really happy with current Nexus One and I would love to have GN. If I stay with Tmo.... paying 650+ for NS is pricy....
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Well, lets weigh out the pros and cons.
VERIZON
Pros:
1) You only spend about 400 going with Verizon.
2) Your wife may get signal at work.
Cons:
1) Battery life using LTE (But you can always turn off LTE)
2) Your wife may not get signal at work. (You never know..)
TMO
Pros:
1) You stay with a company that you've known and have been with for a while.
2) You get to have the flexibility of staying on a GSM provider. Meaning you get the freedom of switching world phones whenever you need to and not having to get it activated and what not.
Cons:
1) You spend more money. (About 250 more just for the GN, and maybe more for your wife's new phone.
2) Your wife will still not get any signal at work.
I guess its really what makes your wife happy. ;D Kidding. I'd bet on Verizon, but only if having a weak battery and not having places to charge your phone aren't complete deal breakers.
Speed won't really be a BIG BIG factor because while LTE and HSPA realtime speeds do differ, the coverage area for both aren't super complete. In both cases, you'll be constrained to 3G/HSPA. But then again this has to do with your coverage area that we know nothing about.

going to Verizon with 2 new phones, Google Voice porting, and paying Tmobile cancelation fee should all be pretty much covered by selling my tmo phones. My wife doesnt really care if she gets service at work she is not picky. In reallity i guess its all about me wanting Nexus and better coverage, but cdma and lte is a big compromise for me.
i'll figure this out soon.....

Think of it this way,
You can get 2 Ferraris:
One with the original Ferrari engine.
And one with 4 cylinder engine in it.
You will do 30 mpg on your 4 cylinder engine Ferrari and will get to the same place as the other Ferrari goes, but just a "little bit" slower.
I made the switch to Verizon and not planing on swapping to a 4 cylinder engine any time soon.

martonikaj said:
And what can you do with that, that you can't do with 10 mb/s down on HSPA+?
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Anything you can do on a home internet service.

[Q] GN Speed vs Other 4G Devices

So I was in the Verizon store the other day and I was doing speed tests on 5 devices at the 4G table. Consistently, the Galaxy Nexus scored 20-40% of the DL speeds of the BIONIC, RAZR, MAXX, REZOUND and a couple other which I dont recall right now. This has me a little concerned now that my GN is on the way from Amazon wireless. i just hope i'm not getting a significantly slower 4G device...Has anyone noticed a difference in speeds between the GN and other 4G devices in real world (outside of Verizon Store) locations?

What speeds were you getting? Did you check the phone status and see what the signal was? Could have been different radios causing it or perhaps a background process eating up bandwidth.

considering i easily get 30Mbit down and 15Mbit up, i'm not too concerned with speed.

Our 4G LTE doesn't go live until tomorrow so this was all 3G.
The Galaxy Nexus would consistently get under 100 Kb, usually in the 50-60. Where as the RAZR MAXX or RAZR would almost always score in the 400-500 kbps range.
When 4g goes live and i get 15MB downloads...i'll probably kiss the CEO of verizon. I'm so sick of the data speeds i get when tethered on Sprint with my EVO. I'm lucky if i get 20kbps inside one of the buildings in which I spend most of my time.

Known that the GN doesn't have the best radios in the world.

Quick question is it Possible to use 4g rom ina GSM version and is it possible to get the 4g speed on the gsm
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nullbesign said:
Quick question is it Possible to use 4g rom ina GSM version and is it possible to get the 4g speed on the gsm
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NO. Do NOT flash CDMA software onto the GSM device. It can potentially brick the device.
It seems as though you have a serious misunderstanding of how the devices and carriers interact to give you "4G" speeds. I recommend reading up on what service your carrier offers and go from there.

No LTE for Tmobile S3

Just read an article that T-Mobile S3 won't be compatible with its LTE network in 2013.... this frustrates me so much considering the higher price for tmobile version.. why do tmobile users always ripped off? I have tmobile and want this phone but now there's no LTE support, do you think it's still worth it? (considering i won't have LTE on this phone for 2 yrs....
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/06/t-mobile-samsung-galaxy-s3-skips-lte-party/

Are you really considering keeping this phone for more than a year?? by the time LTE is all ready to go this phone will be a dinosaur!

lol im planning to do a 2 yr upgrade....

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Are you really considering keeping this phone for more than a year?? by the time LTE is all ready to go this phone will be a dinosaur!
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This plus the phone is already reaching insane downloads speeds, even beating AT&T LTE. Look it up on YouTube.
Don't worry my friend. You will be just fine.
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yea you really dont need the lte.

I really don't think it is a big deal. First of all, LTE won't be ready for a year and chances are once they start it up it will be at least another year before they have a large coverage in most markets.
Second of all, TMobile's HSPA+ network is plenty fast enough. My typical speedtest results are at least 5 Mb/s and have been as high as 18.6 Mb/s.
Third, anything more than about 3 Mb/s is just bragging rights anyways. When do you really get consistent download speeds greater than 3 Mb/s from anywhere? Plus even if you did get more than that you'd blow through your 5 GB data cap in less than 4 hours.

moshe22 said:
This plus the phone is already reaching insane downloads speeds, even beating AT&T LTE. Look it up on YouTube.
Don't worry my friend. You will be just fine.
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I've been in this situation for several years now with Sprint. 4G was never implemented in my area and now LTE is replacing the 4G. I've got (3) 4G capable phones from Sprint but I never got to use the 4G. Lol.

yea but atleast with tmo u can get 5mbps consistantly

it's not great because tmobile costumers are paying more for the phone and getting less out of it. this, combined with worse coverage does nothing to make tmobile an appealing option. For all practical purposes though, i'm still fine with it because I get 11mbps consistently in areas with tmobiles HSPA+ coverage, which has expanded from last year. I live in manhattan and tmobile has given me pretty consistant speeds all around the metro area. It hasn't been perfect all the time, but 95% of the time I'm looking at 3-6 mbps on my vibrant and 6-12 mbps on my gnex.

I don't know why people really need lte speeds I'm downloading 10 to 15mbps t-mobile on a good night I have reached to 17mbps....
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