Tethering on Mobilicity - same or different ip address? - T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989

I have a question regarding tethering via wifi on my T989D.
I am using the Juggernaut v5.0 on my Telus T989D. It has wifi-sharing app built in. When I use this application to share my mobile internet with my PC, I get two different ip addresses. For example, use my PC's browser, I find my PC's ip address is 123.123.123.57, however my phone's IP address is 123.123.123.101. So my phone and my pc have different ip addresses.
Strange enough, my Samsung Vibrant (T959 from TMobile), is different. I use wifi tethering for root user app, and I find my PC and my phone (T959) share the same ip address.
Why they are different on my T989D?
The problem I am having right now is, tethering via T989D's built-in function is slow. Sometimes connection drops. However the tethering via my T959 is very reliable and fast.
Is there a way to disable built-in tethering on T989D and use the tethering for root user app on my T989D? I have tried to freeze the tether manager, but tethering for root user still has error in log and I cannot connect to it at all.
Please help, I want to fix my tethering problem with T989D.
thanks

think about it...
when you are WiFi tethering, your phone is acting as the router, and it provides its own IP to you
you don't get the Mobilicity IP on your laptop or whatever it's hooking up to your phone on WiFi

Sorry I don't get it.
Why my T989D and T959 act differently?

Basically there are two ways of tethering your phone to your PC, (to allow the PC to access the internet through your phone's data connection). The first way is connect PC to the phone, and then to configure your PC to see the phone as the network adapter. This is the method used when you configure USB tethering and you connect the PC to the phone with a USB cable. In that case there will only be 1 IP address assigned, because the PC is using the phone as the network adapter. (Imagine the phone is just an ethernet adapter for the PC)
The second way is to connect your phone to your PC and then to configure the PC to access the phone as if it were a Wireless Access Point (WAP). This is the method used when you use Wi-Fi sharing, (called Portable Hotspot). It's called sharing because the phone can share access to its data connection through its Wi-Fi hardware, for up to 8 different PCs simultaneously. In order to do this the phone has to route data requests correctly between the connected computers. It does this by assigning itself 1 IP address, and then assigning each PC that's connected to it, a different IP address. This is similar to setting up a wireless router at home to share a single internet connection between multiple PCs.
Usually USB tethering results in 1 IP address for both phone (network adapter) and PC, and Wi-Fi sharing/tethering results in 1 IP address for the phone and another IP address for each connected PC. However, I suppose it's possible to use different Wi-Fi tethering software that connects the PC to the phone via Wi-Fi, using only 1 IP address for both phone and PC, like the USB tether method. This would mean you couldn't share the connection, but it may work faster, since the phone wouldn't need to do any routing.
If the android-wifi-tether app is what you refer to as "wifi tethering for root user app", it's worth it to see if it works on the T989. (I'd be curious if it works too). However, if you're using Juggernaut 5.0, you should be able to install android-wifi-tether, and it should work. You shouldn't actually have a Tethering manager app in your list of apps, I don't and I'm using 5.0. If you do, and freezing Tethering manager doesn't allow this app to work, then I would try freezing both the Wi-Fi sharing app and the Wi-Fi sharing manager app as well. If it still doesn't work I'd be tempted to reflash the Juggernaut 5.0 ROM, and then install the android-wifi-tether app again, and see if it works.
Good Luck..

Thanks Jasnn, this really helped and I am now clear.
Yes, the application I am referring to was android-wifi-tether. It works flawlessly
on T959D. it is very slow on my T989D with Juggernaut 5.0/Telus modem.
If I reboot the phone and start tethering using android-wifi-tether, the application starts, but there is one error in log:
Setting ad-hoc mode: failed.
IP address are still different. My pc and phone has two different ipaddress.
I'd like to have the same ipaddress, also one thing bugs me is, the internet connection is not stable, the internet goes on and off. Lots of t989/D users have experienced this problem, there is no cure yet.
thanks
jasnn said:
Basically there are two ways of tethering your phone to your PC, (to allow the PC to access the internet through your phone's data connection). The first way is connect PC to the phone, and then to configure your PC to see the phone as the network adapter. This is the method used when you configure USB tethering and you connect the PC to the phone with a USB cable. In that case there will only be 1 IP address assigned, because the PC is using the phone as the network adapter. (Imagine the phone is just an ethernet adapter for the PC)
The second way is to connect your phone to your PC and then to configure the PC to access the phone as if it were a Wireless Access Point (WAP). This is the method used when you use Wi-Fi sharing, (called Portable Hotspot). It's called sharing because the phone can share access to its data connection through its Wi-Fi hardware, for up to 8 different PCs simultaneously. In order to do this the phone has to route data requests correctly between the connected computers. It does this by assigning itself 1 IP address, and then assigning each PC that's connected to it, a different IP address. This is similar to setting up a wireless router at home to share a single internet connection between multiple PCs.
Usually USB tethering results in 1 IP address for both phone (network adapter) and PC, and Wi-Fi sharing/tethering results in 1 IP address for the phone and another IP address for each connected PC. However, I suppose it's possible to use different Wi-Fi tethering software that connects the PC to the phone via Wi-Fi, using only 1 IP address for both phone and PC, like the USB tether method. This would mean you couldn't share the connection, but it may work faster, since the phone wouldn't need to do any routing.
If the android-wifi-tether app is what you refer to as "wifi tethering for root user app", it's worth it to see if it works on the T989. (I'd be curious if it works too). However, if you're using Juggernaut 5.0, you should be able to install android-wifi-tether, and it should work. You shouldn't actually have a Tethering manager app in your list of apps, I don't and I'm using 5.0. If you do, and freezing Tethering manager doesn't allow this app to work, then I would try freezing both the Wi-Fi sharing app and the Wi-Fi sharing manager app as well. If it still doesn't work I'd be tempted to reflash the Juggernaut 5.0 ROM, and then install the android-wifi-tether app again, and see if it works.
Good Luck..
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Hello,
I want to use portable Wi-Fi hotspot on my phone to connect to my laptop in places where public wi-fi is not available, or to connect to two computers to each other. And it seems to be working.
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I do not know if I do understand you but here are the facts:
I connect two dell laptops to portable wi-fi hotspot on my wildfire s:
one is : 192.168.1.135
other : 192.168.1.185
I can ping one from another. If I share a folder in one (.135) and go to others(.185) "Search for computers or people" I see all files in shared folder and can do all the usual operations over them (edit, move...)
Also if I install Remote Web Desktop from Market on my phone I can access phone through web interface.
In a word, I can do all things as on "normal" wi-fi network ( and I promise it is the only network around here ) except all the time I have 3G switched on. And I do not want to do that because I see my network data traffic going up.
So, as I see things, my only problem is unwanted 3G traffic.
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Ah, but you did not mention that you had installed a seperate application to open up a port for the webinterface.
This however does not change the intended usage for the mobile wifi hotspot application!
hey...you can try this:
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2. create a new APN, a dummy one
3. set the new APN as default
4. launch your wifihotspot
I did not test it with 2 pcs but, when u launch wifihotspot, 3g no longer comes on and my pc still connected to the wireless network without any problems.
Let us know your results
Cheers,
Hey,
I ran more test on this issue. The previous posted solution works like a charm.
I was able to use the wifihotspot as a wireless access point:
1. 2 or more PCs can communicate with each other (browse folders)
2. If one of the PCs has internet access, it shares to the rest of the PCs
3. If one of the PCs has an ethernet connection to a server, all other PCs also get connection to the server
For 3. to work, you will need to brigde the local area connection with the wireless connection on the PC that has cabled ethernet connection. Also browsing folders will work only if you use \\server ip (\\servername does not work).
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je1117 said:
This has been posted before, but I have found no solution in the thread.
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I've been using the client bridge successfully to connect to my Linksys router across the apartment.
I have to have a hard wired connection for my voip phone I use for work.
I match all the encryption, channel, ssid, etc. as I do for my normal network, but when I try to change everything over to match the cmod hotspot (not the wireless tether app which I have nothing but trouble with), it never works. All wired connections get a 169 IP from the router.
Google says that it needs to be in infrastructure mode, and it appears cmod7 uses that. I've tried a vast amount of different ssids, encryption methods, rebooting, etc.
Any info would be greatly appreciated. Does a different rom work better for this method, or do I need a different wifi app besides the one embedded in cmod7?
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I don't think the router is giving you 169 IP addresses, those are a default random IP address that the Windows TCP/IP is assigning itself by default, that was useful back in the workgroup and hub days before the internet. I am researching this for future use, and will check back.

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