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http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/13/sprint-lte-800mhz/
Anyone else a little disappointed in this?
I know that this complete network overhaul is going to be one of the fastest ever but being as far behind as they are [and will be] it seems like this should be done with the Network Vision roll out, not after.
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/13/sprint-lte-800mhz/
Anyone else a little disappointed in this?
I know that this complete network overhaul is going to be one of the fastest ever but being as far behind as they are [and will be] it seems like this should be done with the Network Vision roll out, not after.
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They still have about 6 million people on the frequency and they are cutting 33% of the towers. They also have to get approval from the FCC go use that spectrum for lte. It all can't be an instantaneous process.
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The problem is that they won't have had time to completely clear the spectrum of Nextel users until late 2013 at the earliest. They've already started the refarming process in some areas so they can start launching 1x-Advanced carriers for improved voice coverage. Voice is still a priority for Sprint, and they can only clear enough spectrum for one or two 1.25 mhz CDMA carriers (vs a 3 or 5 mhz LTE carrier that doesn't do voice) for the time being.
I respect and fully understand the problem but this is a pretty serious situation.
Sprint is already far behind the big two...and actually they're behind T-Mobile and Metropcs too.
How much longer can they afford to delay?
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I guess i can wait. My upgrade isnt until 2014 anyways
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They are still putting out lte on there 1900 band so everywhere their 3g is will be covered with lte. You should head over to s4gru.com or something like that. I've read some articles that put some of my questions at ease.
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Yeah was a bit mad when I saw this. If data speeds don't pick up for me by the time my contract comes up for renewal I'm going to Verizon. 2014 is too far away to deal with dial up speeds and closest Wimax tower about 50 miles away.
They better pull a rabbit out before sept. Or im jumping ship.
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killakarl said:
They are still putting out lte on there 1900 band so everywhere their 3g is will be covered with lte. You should head over to s4gru.com or something like that. I've read some articles that put some of my questions at ease.
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The 1900 band is better than the 2.5 GHZ band, but it will still have building penetration issues.
I've read that site and I don't think this is a "do or die" situation, but I think getting ALL of this done ASAP is a priority.
Because, no matter what, they are behind.
I think people have misunderstood this piece of news. Sprint is still rolling out LTE this year. This is additional LTE to what they are rolling out this year. The addition of 800 mhz LTE is part of network vision, its one if the last pieces.
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I think people have misunderstood this piece of news. Sprint is still rolling out LTE this year. This is additional LTE to what they are rolling out this year. The addition of 800 mhz LTE is part of network vision, its one if the last pieces.
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Correct, but the 800mhz band is what's really going to make the difference and really going to allow better competition with Verizon's 700mhz band.
photon has a dormant lte radio? you mean the 800mhz portion?
like the evo 3d has?
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Honestly, I wouldn't fret about it. Things are changing so frequently that there's no telling what the next announcement will bring. Sprint knows it's in trouble, I listen to our corporate managers walk around all day making fun of how slow Sprint is. I've been hearing some information churning around about HTC and Samsung both stepping in to lend a hand in the roll-out. Last week was the first time I saw our Motorola rep in a long time as well, and I had an hour long conversation with him about LTE. There are a good number of new phones from Motorola alone coming this year and early next year with full LTE and HD Voice support, along with a software update for the Photon that may activate its dormant LTE radio. (He hinted about this being the plan for them to have the FIRST LTE device on Sprint's market and catch the other manufacturers off guard.)
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Sounds good but I doubt many people are gonna run out and waste a upgrade on a Photon with the Galaxy Nexus, EVO 4G LTE and hopefully GS III due out around the same time but whatever happens I hope it happens fast because these data speeds are killing me.
So let me get this right so sprint will not turn on lte untol 2014?
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photon has a dormant lte radio? you mean the 800mhz portion?
like the evo 3d has?
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That's what I wanna know too... And what about the Photons upcoming eol?
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So let me get this right so sprint will not turn on lte untol 2014?
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No no no.
LTE will be on as soon as this year in many places.
They will NOT activate the 800mhz band until 2014.
(The 800mhz band is the real game changer for Sprint)
And THAT is why I think this needs to be as rushed as possible.
I too am disappointed. Let me find an article that will explain how stupid Sprint is for wasting money and time. 800 is so much better for signal!!!!
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Here it is. i think matt read the same thing i did.
http://s4gru.forumflash.com/index.p...oyment-info-released-in-sprint-webinar-today/
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No idea what frequency, probably 1900mhz, but he seemed to be rather positive it will work with Network Vision.
It'll make the people who already have a Photon extreeeeemely happy with Motorola earning their repeat busines, unlike HTC and their new phone every 5 months for a couple minor changes.
No, Network Vision will continue as planned supplying LTE at the 1900mhz frequency. In the future, they will begin adding a second channel (800mhz) to offload traffic and provide better inbuilding penetration.
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Oh i was about to get all mad about this thanks for clearing that up
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photon has a dormant lte radio?
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A) There is no mention in the FCC.... which would be needed.
B) http://www.wirelessgoodness.com/201...n-4g-android-smartphone-gets-a-fcc-tear-down/
Count chips. See if it adds up.
Also, I just realized they're using my area for the poster child of NV. Let's be hoping.
Just talked to a good source from sprint and was told LTE is underway in Tampa Florida and should be live in August don't know if anyone knows about that but if not now you do
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U will know when they are starting to release it because their will probably be more outages around the area from them trying to get the network right just like with Verizon. I've seen a couple of threads for places where they are trying to get it up now reporting outages
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U will know when they are starting to release it because their will probably be more outages around the area from them trying to get the network right just like with Verizon. I've seen a couple of threads for places where they are trying to get it up now reporting outages
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yea I have been dropping calls like crazy I'll have full bars to just started about 5 days ago hope its true
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Thanks! As a USF student this is great news. I got my Galaxy Nexus and honestly thought I wouldn't be using LTE till sometime in 2013 but if this is true that is great news.
I'm a Brandon Verizon Gnexus user, but I'm glad the Sprint Brethren will be getting LTE sooner rather than later, I'll be sure to pass this on to my friends with Sprint :3
U might have it sooner Then that june first wave has set some florida citys more like july first
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I also live in Brandon, verizon gnex. I get a good connection to 4G and then data completely drops after a short period. My phone or is anyone else having this issue?
Forgive the Hijack, just thought having the attention of locals was a good opportunity.
I was thinking of getting another phone soon to replace my crappy Sensation and from my brief research, the GS3 may or may not have it in the hardware to support T-Mobile's upcoming LTE network. With the One X+ cancelled, am I only left with the GNote 2? I'm really not trying to carry that big of a phone around . Will there be any announcements by T-Mobile in the upcoming months to release phones for the holiday season? I'm keeping my fingers crossed . Thanks in advance for any insight or details.
The T-Mobile S3 will NOT connect to their future LTE network. The Note 2 probably won't either. Their LTE network is even close to ready to begin rolling out.
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The note 2 is the closest one to get lte it pass by fcc by 1900aws and 700(Verizon band), they were rumors of tmobile making arrangements with Verizon so we probably get it then (if you have a supported device) having said that I don't worry I get up to 24 mbps on tmobile and love it, I use 20GB last month with unlimited so ain't going anywhere for a while
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I get about 10-13 Mbps download with my S3 and it's more then suffice. While I'm sure it's be nice to be able to download at LTE speeds, I don't see the "necessity" of it.
I'm perfectly happy with my S3.
The Note II for T-Mobile has 700/1700 MHz bands for LTE.
T-Mobile Galaxy Note II Passes Through The FCC, Is Future Proofed With LTE
The s4
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Title should be changed to, what's T-Mobile's first lte phone? lol
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Title should be changed to, what's T-Mobile's first lte phone? lol
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Title should be changed to, what's T-Mobile's first lte phone? lol
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The note 2, maybe read the OP next time.
psykhotic said:
The note 2, maybe read the OP next time.
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Maybe you should give that quote another read...take your time.
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psykhotic said:
The note 2, maybe read the OP next time.
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Lol this guy, too funny
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I get about 10-13 Mbps download with my S3 and it's more then suffice. While I'm sure it's be nice to be able to download at LTE speeds, I don't see the "necessity" of it.
I'm perfectly happy with my S3.
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I couldn't agree more. I've seen very impressive speeds from 4G on SGS3... While I'm sure getting 30-60 mbps down (seems average on other LTE networks) is really cool, its more of a signature spec - or bragging spec... 10mbps+ on 4G is plenty fast for me, especially considering I've been using an iPhone on T-mobile for years stuck on 2G EDGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
4G is like LUDACRIS SPEED for me (anyone? spaceballs? anyone???)
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I couldn't agree more. I've seen very impressive speeds from 4G on SGS3... While I'm sure getting 30-60 mbps down (seems average on other LTE networks) is really cool, its more of a signature spec - or bragging spec... 10mbps+ on 4G is plenty fast for me, especially considering I've been using an iPhone on T-mobile for years stuck on 2G EDGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
4G is like LUDACRIS SPEED for me (anyone? spaceballs? anyone???)
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+2 i always tell people that the difference isn't that much when most of the stuff we use it for isn't are all small stuff... besides Roms. And even with that the difference is probably a couple second
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On Verizon's LTE, I pulled on average 15-25mbps. It peaked out at about 30. On T-Mobile's Faux-G, I pull on average 10-20 mbps. I peak out at about 25.
LTE is not noticeably better in any way other than speed tests. Latency had been about 100ms for both as well. Primary difference had been LTE outages on Verizon seemed to last 12-72 hours whereas HSPA+ outages on T-Mobile seem to last 30-600 seconds.
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Just in case you guys dont know, the Note 2 WILL support lte for tmo here is the source..
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/09/t-mobile-galaxy-note-ii-passes-through-the-fcc-is-future-proofed-with-lte/
S3 it is. I've seen some hovering around $350 in my area so that will do. I just can't stand this HTC Sensation and the reboots any longer. Thanks all for the replies.
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S3 it is. I've seen some hovering around $350 in my area so that will do. I just can't stand this HTC Sensation and the reboots any longer. Thanks all for the replies.
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You have to be careful. If they're going to file an insurance claim on it. Your phone will be blacklisted
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Araltd said:
I couldn't agree more. I've seen very impressive speeds from 4G on SGS3... While I'm sure getting 30-60 mbps down (seems average on other LTE networks) is really cool, its more of a signature spec - or bragging spec... 10mbps+ on 4G is plenty fast for me, especially considering I've been using an iPhone on T-mobile for years stuck on 2G EDGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
4G is like LUDACRIS SPEED for me (anyone? spaceballs? anyone???)
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30-60 is average? I've never seen anyone around here go faster than 22 mbps and in that context, my GS3 gets 15-16. The difference isn't very large at all.
First of all don't get T-mobile their HSPA+ Network gives me 0-0.50Mbs around all Brooklyn, even if signal is below -60dBm
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You have to be careful. If they're going to file an insurance claim on it. Your phone will be blacklisted
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Any way to prevent this from happening? Make a phone call before buying? Call tmob customer service?
By the way, since the Note 2 will be coming out by the end of this month or maybe early November, I think a lot of people will try to dump their GS3 to upgrade. Will craigslist prices lower? I'm seeing 300-350 on average right now.
I'm not sure if anyone has found this site yet, but it's one of my bookmarks. I don't much like looking at it because Pittsburgh is nowhere to be found yet. Hopefully the rest of you are listed somewhere.
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/212-network-visionlte-deployment-running-list/
I might drop Sprint based on this information. I've been using a 4G phone since the first EVO. I never saw WiMax and now I won't see LTE until TBD. Which is at least 4th quarter 2013.
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I might drop Sprint based on this information. I've been using a 4G phone since the first EVO. I never saw WiMax and now I won't see LTE until TBD. Which is at least 4th quarter 2013.
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I've been hearing a lot of cities that were slated for 4Q being pushed up to 2Q so I'm just waiting patiently.
I wish I knew if Louisville, KY was in West Kentucky or East Kentucky
***Edit***
Found a map that says Western KY. Sweet!
Keep in mind that now that Sprint if owned by Softbank, they have more money to play with so I would expect things to be accelerated. This is just a guess tho.
Chuck_IV said:
Keep in mind that now that Sprint if owned by Softbank, they have more money to play with so I would expect things to be accelerated. This is just a guess tho.
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That is what my continual optimism tells me....wonder how long I can stay optimistic? lol
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I've been hearing a lot of cities that were slated for 4Q being pushed up to 2Q so I'm just waiting patiently.
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Sprint just recently announced that the markets that they have been working on have been going ahead of schedule. Also that they have deligated more money and work units to the LTE deployment, along with another company is being dispatched to help move things along. Ever since the SoftBank merger
To the OP yes it is a great site in regards to the sprint coverage they usually have updates posted sometimes days before the other sites have something up about new cities being announced etc.
And after speaking with a Sprint employee who goes to the shows/releases for the products the time that he said our city is scheduled to start is exactly on par with the s4gru website.:good:
Darkendvoid88 said:
I've been hearing a lot of cities that were slated for 4Q being pushed up to 2Q so I'm just waiting patiently.
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Any news? I see you are a tech. Specifically Oklahoma.
My experience with this site is that the information reported is about as accurate as what Sprint reports.... Let's just say I was less than impressed!
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skunkle88 said:
I'm not sure if anyone has found this site yet, but it's one of my bookmarks. I don't much like looking at it because Pittsburgh is nowhere to be found yet. Hopefully the rest of you are listed somewhere.
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/212-network-visionlte-deployment-running-list/
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Being a member of that site, I can tell you Pittsburgh is soon. I actually (from my source inside sprint) know that they are approximating May at this point. I spoke with a couple different people who all independently verified this. Also, if you donate to them, there is a LOT more information that you can glean from it, beyond what you linked. PM me if you have further questions.
Haha dayuummmn until Q4 they will bearly have 4g in Colorado ha sprint u suck. Super bad. Even cricket has more coverage than it
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chuko303 said:
Haha dayuummmn until Q4 they will bearly have 4g in Colorado ha sprint u suck. Super bad. Even cricket has more coverage than it
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At least you're on the deployment list...my entire state isn't anywhere on their list.
First time I'll see LTE is when I move.
Skripka said:
At least you're on the deployment list...my entire state isn't anywhere on their list.
First time I'll see LTE is when I move.
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Seriously???? What state?
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Seriously???? What state?
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Nebraska.
Between Lincoln and Omaha we probably have a total of 2 WiMax towers...allegedly there was WiMax to be had in both, but I never saw it on my EVO4G. And by the time I tradeup my Note2 for Note3 or what have you, I probably still will not have ever seen 4G in state.
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Nebraska.
Between Lincoln and Omaha we probably have a total of 2 WiMax towers...allegedly there was WiMax to be had in both, but I never saw it on my EVO4G. And by the time I tradeup my Note2, I probably still will not have ever seen 4G service.
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Wow man that sucks.
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Im from phoenix and we never even had wimax and I couldnt care less about wimax or 4g im pretty happy with my 3g. I cant understand why people need that much speed on their cell phones.
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LTE in Baltimore and dc
Coming along nice
-TeaM VeNuM Like A Boss
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For those that have no lte and are not on any list I'd start saving money now. Give Sprint 3-4 months, if still no lte or announcements then I say switch. First check with tmobile in your area. If it's in your area I recommend them. Even at their slowest their hsdpa+ hits at 2-4mbps.
I myself am giving Sprint till June. If by then the lte I'm seeing now doesn't improve I'm moving to tmo. In my town tmo gets around 6mbps and if they ever upgrade to lte here then I'm golden. It's all a matter of waiting now
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No need for this thread. Use this. Locked
Source: http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/8/38...aunch-refreshed-galaxy-s-iii-with-lte-support
At a CES briefing today, T-Mobile CTO Neville Ray revealed to The Verge that the company will launch a refreshed version of Samsung's wildly popular Galaxy S III that features support for its upcoming LTE network — a network that has now been confirmed to launch commercially any week now. It's not yet known whether the phone will be marketed as a new, distinct model or as a silent and unadvertised swap on store shelves.
Though the Galaxy S III that's presently being offered by T-Mobile does not support LTE, the slightly newer Galaxy Note II does; Ray tells us that it'll require a "small" software update to enable it once it's available. No other LTE-capable phones have been announced by T-Mobile yet, but it's likely that we'll see some announcements as the first markets go live across the first and second quarter of the year.
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What are the chances that this is really just the T999? If its really a brand new model (T999LTE / T1000 / T:silly::silly::silly, how many of you would sell your current T999 and upgrade?
Other good reads:
T-Mobile may launch LTE in Las Vegas this month
http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/8/3852194/t-mobile-may-launch-lte-in-las-vegas-this-month
T-Mobile Galaxy Note II has dormant LTE support, may require software update
http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/25/3554328/t-mobile-galaxy-note-ii-lte-support
T999L - We've been hearing bits and pieces about it (Mostly speculation) for a little while now. Nice to have some confirmation though.
Edit: And if the LTE happens to cover my area, you can bet that I'll sell my T999 and get a T999L
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T999L - We've been hearing bits and pieces about it (Mostly speculation) for a little while now. Nice to have some confirmation though.
Edit: And if the LTE happens to cover my area, you can bet that I'll sell my T999 and get a T999L
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for what? lte consumes more power and isnt any faster than what youre already using. in fact, some would argue it is slower...
...and the Vibrant story repeats itself. T-mobile sure loves doing this. At least my unlocked T999 is ready to switch when I get the money to do so.
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...and the Vibrant story repeats itself. T-mobile sure loves doing this. At least my unlocked T999 is ready to switch when I get the money to do so.
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Amen brother, I hope we keep the development though like the vibrant did though
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Hell no I'm not upgrading lol.
S4 baby
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for what? lte consumes more power and isnt any faster than what youre already using. in fact, some would argue it is slower...
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I doubt it will be slower than this. Granted, this is worse than usual, but still...
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I doubt it will be slower than this. Granted, this is worse than usual, but still...
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Wow, that's horrible. I get around 15mbps download.
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Towle said:
Wow, that's horrible. I get around 15mbps download.
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Yeah... and I'm supposedly in an excellent coverage area.
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I doubt it will be slower than this. Granted, this is worse than usual, but still...
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well dude, youre on edge. 2 soup cans with a string in the middle is faster if youre not getting "4g" now, doubt you would be getting lte in the future...
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well dude, youre on edge. 2 soup cans with a string in the middle is faster if youre not getting "4g" now, doubt you would be getting lte in the future...
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Let me dream dammit! Lol
But seriously, that's why I said "If it happens to cover my area". I know it likely wont, but hey, who knows. I can already almost throw a rock and hit an HSPA+ 42 coverage area.
This is exactly what turns me off about the galaxy line in the US. I thought maybe they'd change with all the carriers having similar phones now, but no. Ill keep my s3 until its paid off then I'm probably going tontrybsomething else.
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I think it's best to wait for the S4 or another flagship phone.
I pass. You're not getting my money T-Mobile. Cant you just release lte modem for us. Gezzzz
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I pass. You're not getting my money T-Mobile. Cant you just release lte modem for us. Gezzzz
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I dont think its that simple, I believe you need the hardware as well as the modem firmware, just flashing the modem could potentially brick your phone.
I get like 1.6 megs down already. It's more than fast enough.
I think I'm good.
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I'm good with mine. I get almost 20 megs in the dallas metro plex. Tmobile could had the lte turned off like the note 2 and they turn it on when it was available. But they decided to make more money with a new release like the vibrant.
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I think I'm good.
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I get very similar speeds.
No way in he** am I upgrading to the same phone with similar speeds if not worse and more of a battery drain. Very happy where I am at.
Some of ya....well must have money to burn or just don't realize....lol!
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I guess once this phone is released, there needs to be a detailed teardown (anandtech / ifixit) that compares the old T999 with the new T999L.
Hopefully there are no hardware differences, and everything is firmware/rom related.
If there are hardware differences, maybe we can start frankensteining a broken T999L (i.e. cracked screens etc) with a working T999 LOL