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I looked on the forum and on the XDA wiki, but couldn't actually find anything about this.
Why should you upgrade to WM6? What do you get out of it? I've read something about the Bluetooth stack being "better" in some way, but don't know how. Is it more stable? Is the included application suite better or cooler? The shell looks almost identical.
Thoughts/comments?
Amongst many others:
Far more stable
Office 2007 compatability
SDHC compatability
Welcome to XDA Developers. Here is a previous thread same subject. That way we don't all have to answer the same question again.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=308978
Its "one more louder".
JasenR said:
Welcome to XDA Developers. Here is a previous thread same subject. That way we don't all have to answer the same question again.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=308978
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Thanks Jasen, that thread was extremely helpful and got me to make up my mind to upgrade
I went back a few pages but didn't see it, originally. Goes to show you how busy this forum is, I guess!
This may give you an idea
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I looked on the forum and on the XDA wiki, but couldn't actually find anything about this.
Why should you upgrade to WM6? What do you get out of it? I've read something about the Bluetooth stack being "better" in some way, but don't know how. Is it more stable? Is the included application suite better or cooler? The shell looks almost identical.
Thoughts/comments?
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This came from a document called "MS WM6 Oficial Reference_Guide" that I found somewhere in the WEB, the document is a 11MB pdf and this is only a summary page (broken in 3 parts), note that in "audience" there´s no customer header.
Another few Points
- WPA2/AES Support
- more stable
- a lot faster
Is there any reason why neither a keyword or tag search for "[ROM]" (without quotes) yields zero results?
If I want to find a list of all [ROM] titled/tagged threads to look at the range of ROM's available; what is the best way to go about it?
Am I being a noob or is there a fundamental search flaw?
Well...
I can think in 3 search criteria:
1. Go to the upgrading section of your device
2. use Wiki to find all cooked and shiped ROM´s
3. Use the XDA fttp
Windza said:
Is there any reason why neither a keyword or tag search for "[ROM]" (without quotes) yields zero results?
If I want to find a list of all [ROM] titled/tagged threads to look at the range of ROM's available; what is the best way to go about it?
Am I being a noob or is there a fundamental search flaw?
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A few months back I actually dug through the advanced search code in vBulletin (trust me, it's terrible code). I may be mistaken, but I believe that it doesn't allow keywords of 3 or less letters unless there's extra parameters (like boolean operators and more keywords). Don't hold me on that, I'd have to look again to be sure.
One of these days if I remember, I'll go hunting through the code again to confirm that and update the wiki page I wrote (link is in my signature) with the answer to this.
mikechannon said:
Indeed words of less than 4 letters will not search. BUT if you click on advanced searh then choose search using Google at the top, it will search for 3 letter words.
Or you could use this:
Search XDA-Devs Forums or Wiki
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The problem with using google in this case is that it's not context aware of the forum threads. I think he's looking to see a large list of the different roms. With google, he's going to get search results including several different pages per rom and no way to sort the results. It would be faster to just click next through each page of the rom dev forum for the selected phone...which is almost as good as getting the intended search results from searching for [ROM]....
It makes me wonder how hard it would be to patch the issue in vBulletin and get better search results than Google can produce.
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It makes me wonder how hard it would be to patch the issue in vBulletin and get better search results than Google can produce.
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If everybody can do the same thing as google did, google will not be google, I mean, the #1 internet company in the world.
I am just wondering that can anybody produce a code like the search link on this page.[Edit: I want to add several more sites as searching range to that one, can you figure it out?]
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If everybody can do the same thing as google did, google will not be google, I mean, the #1 internet company in the world.
I am just wondering that can anybody produce a code like the search link on this page.[Edit: I want to add several more sites as searching range to that one, can you figure it out?]
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I wasn't talking about producing a better search engine, only fixing the known bugs. Things like the incorrect handling of sorting by relevancy (as detailed in the wiki page I wrote), the 4+ letter requirement on search terms, and maybe even giving it grouping capability. The first two aren't even hard to change, though the 4+ letter requirement is performance based, so it might be good to re-engineer some stuff. The grouping is trickier, but not even remotely an expert-level task (though it too has some performance implications).
Google doesn't have the know-how to separate or understand the context of searching only a certain group (or set of groups). It doesn't know how to search ONLY the topic and not the text body (or vice versa), etc. All of that data is separate and stuck in the database in different fields, which makes it WAY easier to search. We can have better search results than google because we have better access to the data, we just have to work through vBulletin's very simple code.
Yes agree. It is a shame that I found sometimes (or many times?) using the integrated search engine is not as good as just using 'search site by google'.
In my opinion, the 4letter+ issue is not as important as others. It is only reasonable to set such a reqirement and in most cases we don't need to search a word with less than 4 letters.
But I feel like lucky that I asked my question to the right person. Would you please spend a little time on help some clue for the question in my last post? Thanks in advance.
It will be wonderful if we can set google to search on limited range only like: xda-devs, ppcgeeks, msdn, pda4x, ppcfreeware, etc.
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Yes agree. It is a shame that I found sometimes (or many times?) using the integrated search engine is not as good as just using 'search site by google'.
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I think it depends on what is being searched for. Most RL friends know me for instantly hitting google to search on almost anything, but for this site I actually do use the integrated search most of the time. A well formed search here is still better than most results on google unless you need to use some pretty advanced searches that only Google can understand.
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In my opinion, the 4letter+ issue is not as important as others. It is only reasonable to set such a reqirement and in most cases we don't need to search a word with less than 4 letters.
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GPS, WM6, SIM, GSM, SD, ROM, CAB
Just to name a few....
wg5566 said:
But I feel like lucky that I asked my question to the right person. Would you please spend a little time on help some clue for the question in my last post? Thanks in advance.
It will be wonderful if we can set google to search on limited range only like: xda-devs, ppcgeeks, msdn, pda4x, ppcfreeware, etc.
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I'm about to pick on you just a bit...
Did you consider searching Google for 'Google Custom Search'? Fourth result down there's a step-by-step guide that explains it easily and also pushes the value of it when combined with AdSense. This is a search thread after all
I admit, I'm glad to have stumbled onto setting up that feature with adsense because I would actually like to use it just for my own site I'm setting up shortly.
Thanks a lot, I got it.
One more noob question(web design is apparently not my area), can I set it in a local page like this, bcz I don't own a website myself? [Edit: Never Mind, Got It!]
Later on after setup your site, pls pm me a link.
Tx.
Edit: Just tried to create my own search engine, take a look here
Edit: Wonderful! Yeah! So happy today.
Windza said:
Is there any reason why neither a keyword or tag search for "[ROM]" (without quotes) yields zero results?
If I want to find a list of all [ROM] titled/tagged threads to look at the range of ROM's available; what is the best way to go about it?
Am I being a noob or is there a fundamental search flaw?
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It yields zero results because the word is too short.
Searching for ROM version #s
I just ran into a search problem myself. I was searching for radio version 1.14.25.05. The google search took me to a long thread, so I thought I'd just search for "1.14.25.05". It didn't return any results, so I assumed this version wasn't there. It wasn't until I asked for help on a new thread that I was embarrassed by someone who told me it was on post #2. I had incorrectly trusted search. With version #s being so important to what xda-developers is all about, having a robust thread search is critical. Any thoughts on possible improvements? Are there settings in this software that could be changed?
John
Searching for a 3-letter result... "YES" we can
So basically, everyone says to use "search" on XDA devs to look for answers for your questions, but nobody says "you should use google search if any word you're looking for is three letters or less"..... like SMS.
It's frustrating, following the rules, being told to follow the rules, then finding out following the rules didn't work anyways.
Fixing this nonsense would be great. Even removing the 'built-in forum search' entirely....? just a thought.
Apart from that, thanks for hosting an amazing site, full of talented, hard-working people and their efforts... if you can find them hehe
pimpmydragon said:
So basically, everyone says to use "search" on XDA devs to look for answers for your questions, but nobody says "you should use google search if any word you're looking for is three letters or less"..... like SMS.
It's frustrating, following the rules, being told to follow the rules, then finding out following the rules didn't work anyways.
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The rule is there to prevent people from asking questions that can be answered by either search engine we use. For a rule to work it needs to be short and to the point, no one will even try to read the rules if every rule is explained in detail.
pimpmydragon said:
Fixing this nonsense would be great. Even removing the 'built-in forum search' entirely....? just a thought.
Apart from that, thanks for hosting an amazing site, full of talented, hard-working people and their efforts... if you can find them hehe
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We're well aware that the vB search engine isn't perfect but neither is the one from google. That is why we give you the option to use both.
I'm well aware that this can be confusing at times but simply searching for "how to search xda-developers.com?" would have given you this thread wich explains in the first post that you can use google and that we implemented it because the vB search doesn't allow words with less than 4 characters.
Best regards,
Flar
Site admin
p.s. I always use the search in the navbar first I noticed later that my example search string gives really crappy results in the vb search.
Originally Posted by pimpmydragon
Apart from that, thanks for hosting an amazing site, full of talented, hard-working people and their efforts... if you can find them hehe
we are only a PM away.
Flar said:
The rule is there to prevent people from asking questions that can be answered by either search engine we use. For a rule to work it needs to be short and to the point, no one will even try to read the rules if every rule is explained in detail.
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I believe many users never read site rules. Once we register on any web-site, there always be a rule or a terms-of-use, and people's habit would be just click on 'Agree' without a glance at the content, since they are all similiar.
But we have a way to force new users to learn how to search and view the site. Simply change the rule to: New users can not post within say first 50 online hours after registered. Then they have to view and search first, especially if they came with some question or urgent problem to be solved.I think Vbulletin has the function of online-time statistics.
Just an idea for consideration, I don't know it will be practical or not.
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I believe many users never read site rules.
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The Forum Rules announcement has >51,000 views since march... not bad
Dave
Yes, looks like the situation is better. It works especially by continuous remindment everuwhere. What about number of new users since then?
Edit: Remindment like this works, thanks for everybody's effort. A further thought is: If everybody already read it, but still a lot don't follow it. That may be caused by some human nature for urgently need an answer for his question. Noticed MODs' effort like your goodself to execute the rule, it helped.
Sorry i'm not quoting people here, i'm typing this on my phone.
First, the number of people reading the rules is far less than the number of new users, which doesn't even account for the long time users. Not that it matters hugely, the rules only truly matter to people posting, which is realistically isn't too bad.
Regarding the use of two search engines, it can be seen in a bad way, or it can be seen as having two different tools instead of just one. Neither is perfect, neither is better (opinions and experiences may differ), and they can often be used interchangably, but they are not the same and should be used differently.
Min 4 letter search is awful for a tech forum. No idea why such a known forum hasnt found a work around.
Theres no way around how terrible it is. As mentioned before the sheer number of issues that arise with things that start or 3 letters long renders search impotent.
MMS/USB are two major problems Ive had recently and couldnt do a search to find an answer. Of course that results in yet another thread on the topic being created that is probably needless.
Google search isnt forum specific so it too is too cumbersome to be useful.
Orb , MMS ,SMS , USB, APK , API I mean over half the "talk" we use for Phones involves 3 letter acronyms. Not even beginning to mention something like 1.6 , 2.0 when getting spcifics on those 3 letter acronyms.
Hey guys, just a head's up (of which you might already be aware of, if so feel free to close and/or delete this thread), the option to include YouTube video in a post is currently not working. When you click the YouTube button it places
Code:
[media=youtube][/media]
code for you, into which I placed a YouTube video. However when you hit "Preview" or "Submit" the code changes to
Code:
[media=youtube][url][/url][/media]
and you get a malformed result aka some meta garbage.
I'm not sure if this is a vBulletin-only issue, or if some upgrade to the YouTube backend fudged it up, but since VBulletin is payware, I would ask them to fix this jazz (assuming you are running the latest version, otherwise they will just say it's not their fault).
*random* Even though it is not my current profession (aka the things I do to make money), for years I took on freelance coding assignments that involved in PHP as well as (X)HTML/CSS/JS/etc. The only forum software I have ever coded hacks/addons for is phpBB, but to date I will still design Wordpress/phpBB/Drupal/custom backends (although I refuse to work with ColdFusion after a bad experience years ago... that and ASP/ASPX... PHP and Java Servlets I'm cool with) for a friend's website or help out a friend if they are behind in a freelance gig in exchange for a DVD or something.
I consider the XDA community my friend as well (well technically lots and lots of friends, and the random ahole which is unavoidable =p), so if you guys ever need help with something that falls into that category, let me know. Please note, this is not an invitation for XDA members to request work from me. This notice just applies to public xda-developer resources (aka the homepage, forum, wiki... things like that).
Edit: It appears the CODE function isn't working either, as I had some example posts at the beginning
delete double thread
please read and respect XDA rules
you already posted the same here
orb3000 said:
please read and respect XDA rules
you already posted the same here
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I am aware of this, that's why I marked that post for deletion (I respect the rules, my router however is a different story, I think wifi went on the fritz because I got a response as if the post didn't go through).
Testing Code Function
Code:
test
Testing YouTube Function
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Well it seems code works just find, as long as you don't try to embed bracketed code inside of it, but the YouTube Function is still boinked. BTW, this is just an FYI to the siteops, I could do without embedded YouTube videos.
Works inc preview?
stylez said:
Works inc preview?
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You can Click "Quote" to see stylez's code .
testing...
stylez said:
Works inc preview?
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it works and it always has for the past month
Ahh sorry guys, I was putting the whole URL in, not just the specific YouTube ID... I am going to go sit on my "stupid rock" now x.x, heh.
Hi
I am new in this site. I am using HTC TP2 T7373 Window mobile 6.1. I would like to install android in my sd. What after what I have to do? What and from where I have to download? I will be greatfull if any one instruct me in details.
Thanks
Please read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=980079
Or http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951962
helicopter88 said:
Please read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=980079
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That freakin thread is so confusing, I don't see how it's easier than mine...
[BUILD] **Complete Froyo Bundle!!** FRX06 - "Stable" - Minor Fixes - get it straight from the horses mouth!
That other thread covers a lot of other topics, which isn't bad... it's just kinda confusing IMHO!
arrrghhh said:
That freakin thread is so confusing, I don't see how it's easier than mine...
[BUILD] **Complete Froyo Bundle!!** FRX06 - "Stable" - Minor Fixes - get it straight from the horses mouth!
That other thread covers a lot of other topics, which isn't bad... it's just kinda confusing IMHO!
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Confusing? heh ;P
It offers an introduction as well as install instructions and troubleshooting and basic pc connectivity.
ryannathans said:
Confusing? heh ;P
It offers an introduction as well as install instructions and troubleshooting and basic pc connectivity.
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Yes, but my thread is very to-the-point. Not saying your thread is useless, just not the first thing a newbie should see IMHO. Once they work thru my thread, yours would be a good one to look at... assuming they actually read my thread or yours at all.
This isn't a thread battle,and Arrrghhh,i've not suggested your thread because your thread isn't for newbies and covers less topics
But i'll add it to my post
Is it possible to install a full blown rooted Android rom on the Rhodium? Thanks
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Yes, but my thread is very to-the-point. Not saying your thread is useless, just not the first thing a newbie should see IMHO. Once they work thru my thread, yours would be a good one to look at... assuming they actually read my thread or yours at all.
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I wasn't particularly eager to install xdandroid (even though I was excited about the concept) until I read ryannathans' thread. Granted it isn't organized well, but it doesn't assume knowledge that isn't there, which makes it ideal for the type of noob that will read.
Waynehead69 said:
Is it possible to install a full blown rooted Android rom on the Rhodium? Thanks
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Both XDAndroid builds are rooted - do you mean replacing WinMo? It's possible, but not stable. Doesn't play nice at all with GSM devices, and it's not easy/simple on CDMA ones.
See
NAND Testing - 05-25 Update: New LK, Recovery.img, Kernel Updates through Recovery if you want to know moar.
fortunz said:
I wasn't particularly eager to install xdandroid (even though I was excited about the concept) until I read ryannathans' thread. Granted it isn't organized well, but it doesn't assume knowledge that isn't there, which makes it ideal for the type of noob that will read.
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Is there something I should add to mine? I'm always open to suggestion, if you feel my first post is missing something that's essential, please do tell
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Is there something I should add to mine? I'm always open to suggestion, if you feel my first post is missing something that's essential, please do tell
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I don't see the point, everything I needed was in ryan's thread. They serve different purposes. You seem to mostly be focused on FRX06, getting people onto that entry level stable build. You mention kernels and the new rootfs in your thread, leaving someone like me to wonder WTF is a rootfs and kernel? Ryan fills in the blanks and focuses on getting people who don't know squat to FRX6.5, and gives us just enough info to understand the threads he links to. There's no reason for you to duplicate that.
I have 2 Questions about Quoteaions/Mentions and those new functions.
1st can you make it work that the notification disappears itself when you have read the concerning thread?
2nd is there a way to turn off mentions coming from oneself?
I often write things like @New Users, and I often use the @ sign as a shortenning for at + the following space, which often results in unwanted mentions, is there a way around that?
My1xT said:
I have 2 Questions about Quoteaions/Mentions and those new functions.
1st can you make it work that the notification disappears itself when you have read the concerning thread?
2nd is there a way to turn off mentions coming from oneself?
I often write things like @New Users, and I often use the @ sign as a shortenning for at + the following space, which often results in unwanted mentions, is there a way around that?
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To prevent unwanted mentions from your side, grow habit of putting up a space in @ & the user. ie. @ New User / @ op etc.
For further suggestions and queries see this threadhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2240142
And your suggestions have been discussed there, may be they are working on a fix.
A Hero Can Be Anyone
thx for info. I posted it there.
any op close/delete/do what is needed for this thread
THX
My1xT said:
thx for info. I posted it there.
any op close/delete/do what is needed for this thread
THX
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Just report it / pm any mod.
A Hero Can Be Anyone
Just use [noparse][/noparse] tags:
[noparse]@GermainZ[/noparse] => @GermainZ
they were just recently made...
I heard that an admin said to implement that but I didnt think it would come that fast...
My1xT said:
they were just recently made...
I heard that an admin said to implement that but I didnt think it would come that fast...
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I've been aware of its existence for a year or so. Here's a post from July 2012 that uses it.
ok but noparse disabling mentions is recently
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2240142&page=8
the last few posts on this page say everything.
My1xT said:
ok but noparse disabling mentions is recently
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2240142&page=8
the last few posts on this page say everything.
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Oh, I didn't know that. Today was the first time I tried it and it worked fine.