[Q] Read NFC tags with screen off? - NFC Hacking

Is it possible?

It should read and wake the device, no?

As I understand the technology, this isn't possible with the screen completely off. It's a security feature that the secure element only turns on when the screen turns on. So it should be a hardware limitation not a software one.
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the thing is, I can't seem to read with the screen on but no unlocked yet....
só its kinda boring having to turn it on, then unlock the read the tag...

lucasmine said:
the thing is, I can't seem to read with the screen on but no unlocked yet....
só its kinda boring having to turn it on, then unlock the read the tag...
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It depends on the app. Some apps unlock it automatically like Google Wallet. So it depends on if the dev has added that feature.
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RTContent said:
As I understand the technology, this isn't possible with the screen completely off. It's a security feature that the secure element only turns on when the screen turns on. So it should be a hardware limitation not a software one.
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correct, the nfc card turns off when screens off

elmo61 said:
correct, the nfc card turns off when screens off
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My understanding is that the NFC service is disabled not the hardware and this could be changed with a custom ROM.

I've tried it both ways, screen off and screen on with Google Wallet and though it takes more time for it to open the app and prompt me for my PIN when I just pull it out of my pocket and tap it, it does seem to recognize the NFC tag (at the POS at least) even with screen off.
So I'd have to agree, I think it's up to the dev.

I'm hoping that one of the NFC devs sees this and can request one of the ROM developers to allow the NFC service to be active when the screen is off. I'd make this request myself over on the One X developer forum but I don't yet have the required 10 posts

RTContent said:
It depends on the app. Some apps unlock it automatically like Google Wallet. So it depends on if the dev has added that feature.
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Google Wallet doesn't unlock the device in ICS - it did in Gingerbread. It did this because the NFC Service and polling loop started when the device was awake, yet still locked. This changed in ICS.
phanover said:
My understanding is that the NFC service is disabled not the hardware and this could be changed with a custom ROM.
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It is the service being disabled.
http://grepcode.com/file/repository...4.0.1_r1/com/android/nfc/NfcService.java?av=h
See ApplyRouting where checks are explicitly made to see if the screen is unlocked before enabling. In theory the service could be modified and compiled into a custom rom to behave like Gingerbread (where it worked with the screen locked but on).
In Gingerbread ApplyRouting was maybeEnableDiscovery and the only check was mScreenOn
http://grepcode.com/file/repository...apps/2.3.3_r1/com/android/nfc/NfcService.java

krohnjw said:
Google Wallet doesn't unlock the device in ICS - it did in Gingerbread. It did this because the NFC Service and polling loop started when the device was awake, yet still locked. This changed in ICS.
It is the service being disabled.
http://grepcode.com/file/repository...4.0.1_r1/com/android/nfc/NfcService.java?av=h
See ApplyRouting where checks are explicitly made to see if the screen is unlocked before enabling. In theory the service could be modified and compiled into a custom rom to behave like Gingerbread (where it worked with the screen locked but on).
In Gingerbread ApplyRouting was maybeEnableDiscovery and the only check was mScreenOn
http://grepcode.com/file/repository...apps/2.3.3_r1/com/android/nfc/NfcService.java
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So, it's definitely possible to enable NFC with the screen on but still locked. But what about the OP's main question? Is it possible to keep the NFC service active 24/7 with some hackery?

LoveNFC said:
So, it's definitely possible to enable NFC with the screen on but still locked. But what about the OP's main question? Is it possible to keep the NFC service active 24/7 with some hackery?
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Possibly I haven't looked at that part of the service, the code's all there though (assuming there isn't anything in the blobs preventing it).

how about read NFC tag in lock screen?

krohnjw said:
Google Wallet doesn't unlock the device in ICS - it did in Gingerbread. It did this because the NFC Service and polling loop started when the device was awake, yet still locked. This changed in ICS.
It is the service being disabled.
http://grepcode.com/file/repository...4.0.1_r1/com/android/nfc/NfcService.java?av=h
See ApplyRouting where checks are explicitly made to see if the screen is unlocked before enabling. In theory the service could be modified and compiled into a custom rom to behave like Gingerbread (where it worked with the screen locked but on).
In Gingerbread ApplyRouting was maybeEnableDiscovery and the only check was mScreenOn
http://grepcode.com/file/repository...apps/2.3.3_r1/com/android/nfc/NfcService.java
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can this be include in one existing apps (the one you create) or only in rooted device ?

Bardamuz said:
can this be include in one existing apps (the one you create) or only in rooted device ?
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You'd need to modify the actual NFC service - so it would need to be part of a modified ROM.

I think that is not possible, "action" in NFC is kinda to emulate user activity..., I don't that that "user activity" can be done when screen off/locked...

fajarep said:
I think that is not possible, "action" in NFC is kinda to emulate user activity..., I don't that that "user activity" can be done when screen off/locked...
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when screen is off NFC stop working , except if you root the device it will not be possible to make it run when screen is off/locked

Evening gents,
I have a simmilar requirement for a project - to enable the NFC-read capability with the screen off / device locked.
I understand this is disabled as a security measure, to stop running instructions from external tags without user knowledge.
However, does this "lock" apply to simply reading a tag, and confirming the responce?
I read in various places that there is a "mod" to allow NFC with the screen locked.
Would this need to be done on a rooted phone?
My intention is completely legit - the final app would be installed from the Play store, with permissions required being accepted by the user etc as normal.
Could this "Read NFC with screen off" be authorised and enabled as part of the apk payload installation?
(FWIW, if this is possible, I would need to "ping" (run NFC search, read responce, confirm tag ID) every x-minutes).
THX

It should be possible to "override" the security feature of turning off the NFC reader when your screen is off through a custom, modified kernel. And to those who say that it's a hardware limitation, it's not. At least not on my phone, I used to have this before, on an older version of Android. Now I'm running a CM based rom, on Android 4.4.4, and it doesn't seem to detect NFC cards at all when the screen is off.
But I like it this way, so I'm not complaining.

Hi, in AOKP KK you can set the NFC Polling Mode to "screen off", "screen on locked" and "screen on unlocked (standard)"
Maybe look af github for the code.
greetings from Germany

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[Q] Is my NFC broken? Hints for troubleshooting NFC

Hi guys,
I believe that the NFC chip in my device (battery) is broken. I have tried two different NFC reader applications and swiped my library card, my RFID keyring for work and my gym card with no success. I turned NFC off and on, rebooted the phone, nothing.
Is there anything else I can do to troubleshoot the NFC chip? I want to make sure its a hardware fault before I turn it in.
I have unlocked the bootloader and rooted via superboot, and it's been flashed with yakju 4.0.2 from googles website.
ipkryss said:
Hi guys,
I believe that the NFC chip in my device (battery) is broken. I have tried two different NFC reader applications and swiped my library card, my RFID keyring for work and my gym card with no success. I turned NFC off and on, rebooted the phone, nothing.
Is there anything else I can do to troubleshoot the NFC chip? I want to make sure its a hardware fault before I turn it in.
I have unlocked the bootloader and rooted via superboot, and it's been flashed with yakju 4.0.2 from googles website.
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Does NFC enable in settings? Capture a logcat when enabling.
Are you sure that the tags you are scanning operate on the correct frequency (13.56 Mhz)? If so capture a logcat when you try to scan the tags. Capture a logcat when trying to read a tag.
I know this might sound stupid but I'm being serious. Can someone actually explain to me what NFC is, how GNEX can use it and what can be done now with it? I just need it simple terms, searching it online just drove me crazy.
Thanks, appreciate the help.
krohnjw said:
Does NFC enable in settings? Capture a logcat when enabling.
Are you sure that the tags you are scanning operate on the correct frequency (13.56 Mhz)? If so capture a logcat when you try to scan the tags. Capture a logcat when trying to read a tag.
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Thank you for helping. Yes, NFC seems to startup alright according to logcat, no error messages or warnings when I do this. I also see messages "NFC-EE routing ON" and "NFC-C polling ON". The log is too long to post it for you.
I also tried logcat during scan but it didnt notice anything.
No, I am not sure that my tags are operating at 13.56 Mhz... Perhaps they arent. Have to look this up!
Somebody in Sweden knows anything I could test my NFC against?
bal1985 said:
I know this might sound stupid but I'm being serious. Can someone actually explain to me what NFC is, how GNEX can use it and what can be done now with it? I just need it simple terms, searching it online just drove me crazy.
Thanks, appreciate the help.
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NFC is for Near-Field Communication and is a wireless communication standard that only operates at a very short instance, eg. 1-4 cm. It can be used as a replacement for regular debit cards so instead of using your card when you go to the shop you just swipe your mobile phone against the shops sensors and enter your pin code to pay. It can also be used to perform a secure handshake, for example if I come to a friends house and I want to access his WiFi, I'll just swipe my phone close to his Wifi Router and they will pair and share the network encryption key. The security in this is that no unauthorized person should be able to get within 1-4 cm of the router to get the encryption key - and NFC simply does not operate at longer ranges then this. These are a couple of things I know are coming with the NFC technology, there's probably alot more stuff we can do with this. Oh btw, we got the Android Beam aswell!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_Field_Communication
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/18/google-announces-nfc-based-android-beam-for-sharing-between-phon/
ipkryss said:
Hi guys,
I believe that the NFC chip in my device (battery) is broken. I have tried two different NFC reader applications and swiped my library card, my RFID keyring for work and my gym card with no success. I turned NFC off and on, rebooted the phone, nothing.
Is there anything else I can do to troubleshoot the NFC chip? I want to make sure its a hardware fault before I turn it in.
I have unlocked the bootloader and rooted via superboot, and it's been flashed with yakju 4.0.2 from googles website.
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do you have an extended non Samsung battery or just a non Samsung battery? Or is your battery exterior damaged in any way?
ipkryss said:
Thank you for helping. Yes, NFC seems to startup alright according to logcat, no error messages or warnings when I do this. I also see messages "NFC-EE routing ON" and "NFC-C polling ON". The log is too long to post it for you.
I also tried logcat during scan but it didnt notice anything.
No, I am not sure that my tags are operating at 13.56 Mhz... Perhaps they arent. Have to look this up!
Somebody in Sweden knows anything I could test my NFC against?
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see if you can find someone with one of the latest nokia phones with NFC support, or is there any nokia show room nearby, you can try connecting their NFC/BT headsets.

[Q] Best app to track lost phone?

Hi Guys,
I wanted to know what any of you find to be the best app to find a lost phone. I wanted to know what the best app is to date since things can change over time, and I havent used this type of service for over a year. Some features I'd like are GPS tracking but little to no battery drain, and the ability to sound an alert even when the phone is silent or on vibrate. Thanks for any and all input.
Just me but I use the one that comes with 'Kaprasky Security', it is very accurate in my country of Canada so just try that or wait for other responses
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Cerberus is by far the best.
This is what I use and is the best and has lots features highly recommend.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.myboyfriendisageek.gotya
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RogerPodacter said:
Cerberus is by far the best.
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I second this. No monthly or annual fees. Just pay $4 one time and it covers up to 5 devices.
Here's some of the features:
It has three ways to protect your device:
- Remote control through the website www.cerberusapp.com
- Remote control via text messages
- SIM Checker (for devices that have a SIM card): you will automatically receive alerts if someone uses your phone with an unauthorized SIM card
Remote control allows you to perform many operations on your device, like:
- Locate and track it
- Start a loud alarm, even if the device is set to silent mode
- Wipe the internal memory and the SD card
- Hide Cerberus from the app drawer
- Lock the device with a code
- Record audio from the microphone
- Get a list of last calls sent and received
- Get information about network and operator the device is connected to
- And much more!
Cerberus automatically enables GPS if it is off when you try to localize your device (only on Android < 2.3.3) and you can protect it from unauthorized uninstalling - more info in the app configuration.
The app works even if the device does not have an internet connection thanks to remote control by sms messages. Also, the SIM Checker feature allows you to know the new number to send texts to, if the SIM card is changed. Texts received and sent for Cerberus remote control will not start any notification and will not appear in the Messages application.
Cerberus does not drain the battery because there is no background service running: it will activate only if there is a remote control request and will stop afterwards.
More features for rooted devices: complete uninstall protection (a thief will be able to delete Cerberus only by flashing another ROM), GPS auto-enabling even on Android > 2.3.3. More info on the website in the Help section.
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Check it out.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.lsdroid.cerberus&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5sc2Ryb2lkLmNlcmJlcnVzIl0.
ddpacino said:
Hi Guys,
I wanted to know what any of you find to be the best app to find a lost phone. I wanted to know what the best app is to date since things can change over time, and I havent used this type of service for over a year. Some features I'd like are GPS tracking but little to no battery drain, and the ability to sound an alert even when the phone is silent or on vibrate. Thanks for any and all input.
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Android Lost can do everything you want and more. Best of all, no fees!
GreatBigDog said:
Android Lost can do everything you want and more. Best of all, no fees!
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I used that to find my wife's phone. Did a remote install too as I didn't have it on the device. .. Amazing.
I've heard a lot about Cerberus, but it needs to always be running on your device from what I can see. Can you remote install and configure it only when you need it? If not, that's a pretty dangerous app to allow basically all functions of your phone to be accessed online...
I use avast! Mobile Security. You can install the application and then enable Anti-Theft. Once it's set-up and installed, you can uninstall avast! Mobile Security. (I'm unable to provide links, but they have a webpage that describes the necessary steps better.)
You can then use a bunch of different commands via text message to locate/lock/unlock/etc. your phone. You can specify two phone numbers to be the only phones that can communicate with your device, or you can leave it open. (Commands sent to your device must contain your pin code and then the command.)
The FAQ for the app says it does not run in the background and is only activated when a text command is sent to the phone. (I think this program only works if you're able to receive text messages to your actual number. Not via Google Voice.)
avast mobile security is awesome!
I use cerberus...they have features such a remote recording of video and audio which I don't think is available on SeekDroid which I was on before
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I've tried Lookout mobile security, but like Prey a bit better
Another vote for androidlost here!
Phonelocator pro hands down beats them all - check it out
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.rvo.plpro
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
ddpacino said:
Hi Guys,
I wanted to know what any of you find to be the best app to find a lost phone. I wanted to know what the best app is to date since things can change over time, and I havent used this type of service for over a year. Some features I'd like are GPS tracking but little to no battery drain, and the ability to sound an alert even when the phone is silent or on vibrate. Thanks for any and all input.
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You can buy a ball of yarn at the hardware store for a few cents. Tie one end to the phone, one end to your wrist.
Never lose the phone.
Avast can get location even if GPS, wifi, mobile data and location service are turned off, if you are rooted. Cerberus can't.
B1ny said:
Avast can get location even if GPS, wifi, mobile data and location service are turned off, if you are rooted. Cerberus can't.
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Pretty sure if you allow Cerberus administrator privileges, it can turn on GPS/Wifi/Data on by command...
Pretty sure it can't.
anton2009 said:
Pretty sure if you allow Cerberus administrator privileges, it can turn on GPS/Wifi/Data on by command...
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B1ny said:
Pretty sure it can't.
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Okay... I just tested it now with Cerberus dashboard (online website where you can send commands from) with my phone unlocked right in front of me. Sent command "start tracking" and saw with my own eyes the WIFI and GPS toggles go from OFF to ON. Wifi and GPS still on... Sent command "stop tracking" and WIFI and GPS toggles went from ON to OFF.
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Sorry, I was wrong about the administrator privileges, by enabling that, it will allow you to erase your data/sd card remotely. To get WIFI and GPS to turn on when you send the tracking command, you have to push Cerberus to /system/app
I see a flaw in all of this:
Factory reset = GG
convolution said:
I see a flaw in all of this:
Factory reset = GG
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Cerberus help page, and I quote:
"I have a rooted device. Can I get additional features?
Yes! If you have rooted your device you can integrate Cerberus into your ROM and get two additional features: complete uninstall protection (Cerberus will even survive a wipe/factory reset) and GPS auto-enabling even on Android 2.3.3 and later. To have these features uninstall Cerberus, then download cerberus.zip, put it on the sd card and install it from recovery. Cerberus is also available on ROM Manager."
Taken from avast! Mobile Security app page, and I quote:
"Self-Protection
Extremely difficult for thieves to remove (especially on rooted phones), Anti-Theft protects itself from uninstall by disguising its components with various self-preservation techniques. On rooted phones it is able to survive hard-resets and can even disable the phone’s USB port."

Where is the Trusted Device option?

I have a Moto360 watch. One of the apps I've been using on my Note 4 is called "Delayed Lock." It keeps the phone unlocked when my watch is connected to the phone. Very convenient. Unfortunately, it doesn't work in Lollipop with a Samsung phone. Bummer.
No problem, I thought, I'll just use the Trusted Device option built into Lollipop. But, for the life of me I can't find it anywhere. Did Samsung include the Trusted Device option? If so, where?
TabGuy said:
I have a Moto360 watch. One of the apps I've been using on my Note 4 is called "Delayed Lock." It keeps the phone unlocked when my watch is connected to the phone. Very convenient. Unfortunately, it doesn't work in Lollipop with a Samsung phone. Bummer.
No problem, I thought, I'll just use the Trusted Device option built into Lollipop. But, for the life of me I can't find it anywhere. Did Samsung include the Trusted Device option? If so, where?
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Settings>Security>Advanced
TabGuy said:
I have a Moto360 watch. One of the apps I've been using on my Note 4 is called "Delayed Lock." It keeps the phone unlocked when my watch is connected to the phone. Very convenient. Unfortunately, it doesn't work in Lollipop with a Samsung phone. Bummer.
No problem, I thought, I'll just use the Trusted Device option built into Lollipop. But, for the life of me I can't find it anywhere. Did Samsung include the Trusted Device option? If so, where?
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You have to activate Smart Lock first by going toe settings>security>trusted agents. Then Smart Lock will appear at the bottom of the security list. Trusted Device is then available along with the other Smart Lock features. For me, the Trusted Locations doesn't seem to work. However, on body does.
jhom52 said:
You have to activate Smart Lock first by going toe settings>security>trusted agents. Then Smart Lock will appear at the bottom of the security list. Trusted Device is then available along with the other Smart Lock features. For me, the Trusted Locations doesn't seem to work. However, on body does.
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Thanks, that did the trick!

Galaxy S20 Ultra 5G - Camera giving an error when opening any app that uses it.

Hi!
This is my first ever post on XDA but i have been a user for several years now and i am quite acquainted with flashing ROMs and modding my phones.
I am currently using a GS7 Edge and I am about to buy a new phone in a few days, I found a S20 Ultra 5G for a very good price in perfect condition and fullbox but the thing is that it's mic is not working (which isn't a problem for me since i am always using my Galaxy Buds for phone calls) and the cameras give an error that says that the camera is not working. I found out on the internet that this is a common error after an update and is fixable by downgrading the software.
Does anyone have a link to a website from where i can download the original Firmware for the phone or a OneUI based rom that is at most OneUI 2.5?
Thank you in advance for any future help.
That is a security software restriction, as far as I know, there's an advanced option of disabling device sensors, called "sensors off".
It does exactly what the name suggests, it started with Android 10 (corresponding to One UI 2.0), and at it's early stages, it used to disable literally every sensor even when doing a phone call.
But then, an exception was made to allow necessary sensors on necessary conditions.
You can disable it and reboot to check, in case it was already disabled, enable it, and enable it from status bar quick settings tiles, then disable it.
Found in developer settings >> quick settings developer tiles.
That's the only thing I know.
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That is a security software restriction, as far as I know, there's an advanced option of disabling device sensors, called "sensors off".
It does exactly what the name suggests, it started with Android 10 (corresponding to One UI 2.0), and at it's early stages, it used to disable literally every sensor even when doing a phone call.
But then, an exception was made to allow necessary sensors on necessary conditions.
You can disable it and reboot to check, in case it was already disabled, enable it, and enable it from status bar quick settings tiles, then disable it.
Found in developer settings >> quick settings developer tiles.
That's the only thing I know.
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Thank you for your answer, I am going to try that when i get the phone and get back to you, but also, do you think it's a good deal for the equivalent of 375USD in my country's currency?
AverageRazvan798 said:
Thank you for your answer, I am going to try that when i get the phone and get back to you, but also, do you think it's a good deal for the equivalent of 375USD in my country's currency?
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To be honest, that is extremely great price, and it draws a lot of suspicious, did you check the phone and made sure that it is real S20 5G?
Perhaps the screen has been replaced? On XDA Swappa, prices are as low as 490$ and up to 670$
You'd be a very lucky guy if the phone is okay XD

SOS! Please HELP - XM10T5G Down[&up]grading..

Have the Xiaomi Mi 10T 5G, which comes with Android 10 / MIUI 12 [Sort of combination of them i think], and i wanna install an older version of android only, lower than 10 [Preferably 7.0], is it possible to do at all? If so, then how exactly can i do that? if possible with exact instruction or guide to it..
Thanks ahead..
PEACE AND LOVE!
Not possible. I am really curious why would you even want that.
_mysiak_ said:
Not possible. I am really curious why would you even want that.
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For many reasons.. They changed it in some very bad way for my opinion.. like the auto turning on WiFi by some apps, like some apps that don't have widgets, the call recording issue and many more very annoying unreasonable changes they did on A10 on.. saw also they only allow FBE encryption instead of FDE which is much better [That i can see for huge 128, 256 or maybe 512 Gigs Storages but still it should be up to the user decision not forcing]
So you say it's completely impossible? even if flash universal / rooted ROM? no way at all?! cause man those are really annoying stuff especially to the tech Pros and/or savvy's like us, and i know that since i saw many threads and posts in other forums about those issues too.. Maybe some giving up or thinking it's advancements, but really, maybe big money involved, espionage, and many more possible reasons they doing it.. It's bad, really bad..
* BTW sorry for the multiplication threads didn't knew it's SPAMing and not very involved it forums world..
Thank ahead.
Jeff1976A1 said:
For many reasons.. They changed it in some very bad way for my opinion.. like the auto turning on WiFi by some apps, like some apps that don't have widgets, the call recording issue and many more very annoying unreasonable changes they did on A10 on.. saw also they only allow FBE encryption instead of FDE which is much better [That i can see for huge 128, 256 or maybe 512 Gigs Storages but still it should be up to the user decision not forcing]
So you say it's completely impossible? even if flash universal / rooted ROM? no way at all?! cause man those are really annoying stuff especially to the tech Pros and/or savvy's like us, and i know that since i saw many threads and posts in other forums about those issues too.. Maybe some giving up or thinking it's advancements, but really, maybe big money involved, espionage, and many more possible reasons they doing it.. It's bad, really bad..
* BTW sorry for the multiplication threads didn't knew it's SPAMing and not very involved it forums world..
Thank ahead.
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To be honest I don't understand none of your points.
1. Wifi can be still turned on by apps, you just need to enable the permission (allow always vs. allow only when app is running in foreground).
2. Call recording is working in regions where it's not forbidden by privacy laws.
3. FBE is much better because it allows you to start the phone with basic service without using the password. Not sure why do you consider FDE to be superior.
4. Well, you can try to build your own Android 7 ROM from old sources, but you're going to have a fun time adapting to vendor partition/proprietary files created for Android 10 or 11. Also using several years old code which is not supported or patched anymore is quite interesting approach to security.
_mysiak_ said:
To be honest I don't understand none of your points.
1. Wifi can be still turned on by apps, you just need to enable the permission (allow always vs. allow only when app is running in foreground).
2. Call recording is working in regions where it's not forbidden by privacy laws.
3. FBE is much better because it allows you to start the phone with basic service without using the password. Not sure why do you consider FDE to be superior.
4. Well, you can try to build your own Android 7 ROM from old sources, but you're going to have a fun time adapting to vendor partition/proprietary files created for Android 10 or 11. Also using several years old code which is not supported or patched anymore is quite interesting approach to security.
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Maybe it's regional or SROMs based issue, but the vendor of the app said it's not allowed on Android 10 and on, and i did confirmed the permission to turn on WiFi automatically, but maybe there's some other settings that i missed and that guy was wrong, i'd love if you can show how to enable it globally and/or to just the auto file sync i use, cause i tried many times even with manual syncing [by clicking the Sync button when WiFi is off, it started and turn it off automatically on Android 7.0.. Of course also for time interval based sync]..
Jeff1976A1 said:
Maybe it's regional or SROMs based issue, but the vendor of the app said it's not allowed on Android 10 and on, and i did confirmed the permission to turn on WiFi automatically, but maybe there's some other settings that i missed and that guy was wrong, i'd love if you can show how to enable it globally and/or to just the auto file sync i use, cause i tried many times even with manual syncing [by clicking the Sync button when WiFi is off, it started and turn it off automatically on Android 7.0.. Of course also for time interval based sync]..
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App info, permissions.
_mysiak_ said:
App info, permissions.
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Hi.. Thanks for your reply.. i did that already before, but still it doesn't work.. i use FolderSync, that currently in my old Android 7.0 device, does syncing when i click Sync from within the app, while i was totally offline [Data and Wifi] so it turned on the Wifi connection [Specific home network], and also on Scheduled i inserted the Allowed Networks SSID [Which BTW when i turn on WiFi manually and it does sync it with GDrive, it say on top 'Unknown SSID' for case it matters {Had the feeling that it very much does}], I also switced it on in Data and WiFI limit it does on that Security app, which i guess is kind of firewall, and BTW i remember like 5-6 years ago i had the Lenovo A8 "Golden Worrier" has that same kind of Security app built in with firewall and all that, but still manually at least, as i checked, it doesn't turn on the Wifi via FolderSync app.. Got a strong feeling it's due to that Unknown SSID stuff or that Security app.. Could it be?..
Jeff1976A1 said:
Hi.. Thanks for your reply.. i did that already before, but still it doesn't work.. i use FolderSync, that currently in my old Android 7.0 device, does syncing when i click Sync from within the app, while i was totally offline [Data and Wifi] so it turned on the Wifi connection [Specific home network], and also on Scheduled i inserted the Allowed Networks SSID [Which BTW when i turn on WiFi manually and it does sync it with GDrive, it say on top 'Unknown SSID' for case it matters {Had the feeling that it very much does}], I also switced it on in Data and WiFI limit it does on that Security app, which i guess is kind of firewall, and BTW i remember like 5-6 years ago i had the Lenovo A8 "Golden Worrier" has that same kind of Security app built in with firewall and all that, but still manually at least, as i checked, it doesn't turn on the Wifi via FolderSync app.. Got a strong feeling it's due to that Unknown SSID stuff or that Security app.. Could it be?..
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FolderSync doesn't turn Wifi On automatically, this feature seems to be missing in the app. But I've just tested with Tasker and it is able to turn Wifi On and Off, so it's not a problem of Android version.
For Allowed SSID feature in FolderSync you must enable permanent location access.
Btw. I see no point in turning Wifi Off at any point, it uses so little power that there is next to none benefit in doing it. If you insist on some kind of automation, use Tasker in a fully controlled manner.
_mysiak_ said:
FolderSync doesn't turn Wifi On automatically, this feature seems to be missing in the app. But I've just tested with Tasker and it is able to turn Wifi On and Off, so it's not a problem of Android version.
For Allowed SSID feature in FolderSync you must enable permanent location access.
Btw. I see no point in turning Wifi Off at any point, it uses so little power that there is next to none benefit in doing it. If you insist on some kind of automation, use Tasker in a fully controlled manner.
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Well your first argument is actually not tru, FolderSync does turns on Wifi automatically as i do for like 4 years with my older Galaxy s6 [Great dev BTW, Samsung's first 64 bit device i thinks] running now Android 7.0, and also the other day and im sure if ill try this right now it will actually turning on WiFi from off mode and also automatically closed it when done syncing, but no matter what i did it doesn't doing it on the XM10T5G, and it both updated to the latest FolderSync version the one with those tiles.. so it must be something with the operation system.. again it's some kind of Andro/MIUI OS so it has to do with one of them..
About the SSID, i did confirmed the location access all the time [not just when it's used] on the Security app, is there any other place that i should enable location or any other settings that may be relating to this?..
And really? you don't see the point in using Wifi? It's much more faster, secure, and reliable than data.. of course i don't care if it'll be 4G or 5G even better to sync, but obviously not any connection, but thanks for the Tasker Tip, i'll try that.. i've heared that somewhere i think from the gut of FolderSync..
And BTW, the call recording is legal in my country, so i did also many years but here only after trying several apps i found Cube ACR working good.. And also, some apps ask you if you confirm that Call recording is legal in your country but of course if you flash custom or different ROM, the system obviously can never tell..
Peace..
Jeff1976A1 said:
Well your first argument is actually not tru, FolderSync does turns on Wifi automatically as i do for like 4 years with my older Galaxy s6 [Great dev BTW, Samsung's first 64 bit device i thinks] running now Android 7.0, and also the other day and im sure if ill try this right now it will actually turning on WiFi from off mode and also automatically closed it when done syncing, but no matter what i did it doesn't doing it on the XM10T5G, and it both updated to the latest FolderSync version the one with those tiles.. so it must be something with the operation system.. again it's some kind of Andro/MIUI OS so it has to do with one of them..
About the SSID, i did confirmed the location access all the time [not just when it's used] on the Security app, is there any other place that i should enable location or any other settings that may be relating to this?..
And really? you don't see the point in using Wifi? It's much more faster, secure, and reliable than data.. of course i don't care if it'll be 4G or 5G even better to sync, but obviously not any connection, but thanks for the Tasker Tip, i'll try that.. i've heared that somewhere i think from the gut of FolderSync..
And BTW, the call recording is legal in my country, so i did also many years but here only after trying several apps i found Cube ACR working good.. And also, some apps ask you if you confirm that Call recording is legal in your country but of course if you flash custom or different ROM, the system obviously can never tell..
Peace..
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I see no point in turning wifi OFF.
Anyway, good luck finding/building your perfect Andoid 7 ROM.
_mysiak_ said:
I see no point in turning wifi OFF.
Anyway, good luck finding/building your perfect Andoid 7 ROM.
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Again security and energy reasons.. Think about it..
Anyway i barely know how to flash ROM, so i'm very far from building a custom one.. But at start you said it's impossible to install / flash an older Android ROM to it [XM10T5G], so you say it's possible with custom ROM?
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Again security and energy reasons.. Think about it..
Anyway i barely know how to flash ROM, so i'm very far from building a custom one.. But at start you said it's impossible to install / flash an older Android ROM to it [XM10T5G], so you say it's possible with custom ROM?
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Again - not possible, such ROM doesn't exist.

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