Did I Brick? Stuck at Android Recovery Screen - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

Rooted...no issue there.
Installed ROM Manger.
Installed Clockwork Recovery from Rom Manager as I wanted to install a new rom.
Now when I boot, no matter what combination I hold down, it goes to the Android System Recovery screen and in the background is the white triangle, yellow exclamation point and little android guy.
I can move between the three ofered choices but pressing the power button (I assume this is the OK button) does nothing.
Thoughts / help?

Does your computer recognize it? If it does you should try adb download and see if you can get into download mode
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Have you even tried pressing any of the soft keys, home button?
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Just realized I posted the question in the wrong forum as well.
Computer makes a noise as though it knows it's connected, yet it doesn't show up and odin and kies don't find it either.

I think home button is select and power button is back, but I haven't used stock in a long time, so might be remembering incorrectly.
I suggest you don't use Rom Manager to install recovery. It doesn't work properly for this phone and could lead to non-recoverable problems.
Read this thread and you'll have references to everything you need to undo and start from scratch:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342728

THANKS!
What a doof........hit the home button and all is fixed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jfenton57 said:
What a doof........hit the home button and all is fixed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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And leave stupid ROM manager alone it's crap on Samsung
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I don't know for the life of me why people still use Rom manager to install roms.

I think they are probably HTC converts because nothing here is asking them to use ROM manager.

jordan2333 said:
I don't know for the life of me why people still use Rom manager to install roms.
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Lazy lazy and most don't know how to do it correctly....
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sfhub said:
I think they are probably HTC converts because nothing here is asking them to use ROM manager.
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I came over from an Evo and believe me everything pointed to not use Rom Manager when I had my phone as well. I agree that if people took the time to read properly they would see that Rom Manager and a few other crazy things they do are not suggested. But they make sure to have time to post and read their threads when they screw up. Honestly with all the brick laying and blue light specials up in herrre. Do you really need to post your problem and how do you fix it...
His problem is one of 100 exactly the same in here and instead of searching and helping himself he did the same lazy thing that got him stuck in the first place. Then too lazy to find out how to work CWM. Quite sure he will be back again if he keeps up this route... @OP not trying to be an ass but just hate to see people who don't want to help themselves.

Sorry to hear that you've bricked OP. Hope you can get a replacement and get back into owning your phone.
Here's what I've done to avoid bricking since I am also somewhat new to the E4GT...
Read the forums on XDA.
Observed what others are doing that worked.
Didn't flash anything you are unsure of.
Became familiar with ODIN.
Stayed away from ROM manager.
Flashed using el29 rogue recovery only. (I've been successful with this so far, others say to use el26.)
Wipd cache/dalvik-cache/data/system.
Purchased mobile ODIN, $5 is better than the deductible to get a replacement.
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I bricked but it was a bad recovery well not bad just messy team trolls recovery bricked me 2 weeks ago wiping Cache . But as always when u post questions like this here ur gonna hear it lol but searching helps.
Now if its hard bricked ud not even get to recovery at all just a blue light and a black screen that if is ur case unplug it cause it runs the battery super hot .
If not in that position than try power and volume down if it does not bring u to download mode to Odin another recovery if that don't work idk
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sfhub said:
I think they are probably HTC converts because nothing here is asking them to use ROM manager.
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The OG Epic uses ROM Manager just fine.
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azyouthinkeyeiz said:
The OG Epic uses ROM Manager just fine.
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That took a long time and a ton of porting. Pretty recent. Went through Eclair and Froyo without support.

The Root said:
That took a long time and a ton of porting. Pretty recent. Went through Eclair and Froyo without support.
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Porting was needed for CWM recovery. Not ROM Manager. Support for ROM Manager comes from device devs, not koush. In the form of uploading vetted software, that doesn't corrupt. It is a universal starting point, not a fully functional product.
But regardless, I wasn't even talking about it's support. I was saying people other than ones with HTC devices can get into the habit of using ROM Manager.
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azyouthinkeyeiz said:
Porting was needed for CWM recovery. Not ROM Manager. Support for ROM Manager comes from device devs, not koush. In the form of uploading vetted software, that doesn't corrupt. It is a universal starting point, not a fully functional product.
But regardless, I wasn't even talking about it's support. I was saying people other than ones with HTC devices can get into the habit of using ROM Manager.
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I never used it even when there was support. Lol
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Doesn't matter the recovery is in the kernel and rom manager will not work on this phone ....there is no separate recovery partition and ROM manager won't flash the recovery right on here since it's part of the kernel partition.koush doesn't really care he made it to temporarily flash a recovery like touch that might work if not for ics kernels... The thing is it doesn't work people should not rely on it like a crutch
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Related

Odin 1.85

For anyone that doesn't have it yet.
MD5: 69b41fc23052e9df82b5464928583b65
Posted new version with proper download mode notes, thanks to Kn0wBuddy, which are
hold Vdown+Power
Don't use the put included with this. I did not realize that was left in there. I will update with the correct pit once I get to my computer.
Probably a good idea posting this for those that don't have it.
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Thanks! Haven't touched Odin in a while, I'm a few updates back. Good to see it'll work on our new phones... now... how come nobody has root yet?
Comming from a Evo 4g...was wondering...I looked at this and it says to hit the 1 key...I am guessing we do not need to do this for the E4T ? And I guess Odin is what we use to flash things to the phone ?
When I did the Evo, I had to do the old school root. Unrevoked and all that was not around lol..
What is Odin?
Just found out I get the phone for free with cyanogen working for Samsung will the phone be worth it or should I stick with my Evo 3d and Droid x? Plus never used Odin before really just helped people root their phones with it along time ago it just unlocks the phone right?
cruckus said:
Just found out I get the phone for free with cyanogen working for Samsung will the phone be worth it or should I stick with my Evo 3d and Droid x? Plus never used Odin before really just helped people root their phones with it along time ago it just unlocks the phone right?
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Odin flashes your phone to coplete stock... or whatever you want
Ninjack said:
Comming from a Evo 4g...was wondering...I looked at this and it says to hit the 1 key...I am guessing we do not need to do this for the E4T ? And I guess Odin is what we use to flash things to the phone ?
When I did the Evo, I had to do the old school root. Unrevoked and all that was not around lol..
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Right those instructions are carried over from the Epic. I will update them once I get the E4GT.
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I think I read already. There were screenshots already posted. I should also have this Friday morning if Sprint doesn't open it up Thursday night or Best Buy even.
Correction. This was posted in E4GT General.
You get to *odin mode* by holding down volumne + and - keys at the same time along with the power key, release power key when device turns on while continuing to hold + and - keys untill the droid guy screen comes on, then release.
Glad to see you over here by the way Crawrj. I take it your upgrading as well. Look forward to your first plus kernel for this thing.
latinmaxima said:
I think I read already. There were screenshots already posted. I should also have this Friday morning if Sprint doesn't open it up Thursday night or Best Buy even.
Correction. This was posted in E4GT General.
You get to *odin mode* by holding down volumne + and - keys at the same time along with the power key, release power key when device turns on while continuing to hold + and - keys untill the droid guy screen comes on, then release.
Glad to see you over here by the way Crawrj. I take it your upgrading as well. Look forward to your first plus kernel for this thing.
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Nice. Thanks for the info.
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What is Odin?
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cruckus said:
Just found out I get the phone for free with cyanogen working for Samsung will the phone be worth it or should I stick with my Evo 3d and Droid x? Plus never used Odin before really just helped people root their phones with it along time ago it just unlocks the phone right?
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deano0714 said:
Odin flashes your phone to coplete stock... or whatever you want
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yeah like deano said, you can flash ANYTHING. once AdamOutler gets started on development for our device, we will be able to flash custom bootloaders like the Captivate can, for those who dont know, the Captivate was recently able to flash the Nexus S bootloader which means it is basically a Nexus S in disguise lol. Odin will also let us falsh stock and custom ROMs and kerenls as well as Modems (radios) plus recoveries such as CWM.
Also if anything screws up its ur way outta trouble...things such as "omg i'm bricked" and "help i'm stuck on the boot logo" won't be seen as much in the Q and A section as much... get to know Odin referring to people coming from EVO or any other phone Odin is ur new bff
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Rev3ge07 said:
Also if anything screws up its ur way outta trouble...things such as "omg i'm bricked" and "help i'm stuck on the boot logo" won't be seen as much in the Q and A section as much... get to know Odin referring to people coming from EVO or any other phone Odin is ur new bff
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Love Odin
Sounds cool. Ahh starting the learning all over again lol.
Odin is great. It was almost impossible to brick the Epic with it. If you get any kind of phone life, you can almost always get it back to stock and start again. Also, 30 seconds to flash a different modem. We had some great stock GB leaks with Busybox,Superuser included (thanks Crawrj.) Great tool.
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JohnCorleone said:
Odin is great. It was almost impossible to brick the Epic with it. If you get any kind of phone life, you can almost always get it back to stock and start again. Also, 30 seconds to flash a different modem. We had some great stock GB leaks with Busybox,Superuser included (thanks Crawrj.) Great tool.
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I wonder if the original gsII's cwm will work for us...
can some one post a good repository or online dummy guide for those who have no clue what Odin is even still after reading these posts? I consider my self tech savy, but only getting introduce to "root" on the evo, i will be the first to admit i have a lot to learn.
xlGmanlx said:
can some one post a good repository or online dummy guide for those who have no clue what Odin is even still after reading these posts? I consider my self tech savy, but only getting introduce to "root" on the evo, i will be the first to admit i have a lot to learn.
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Its really not that involved. All you do is put a tar file in "phone" and a pit file in "Pit" and select run and let it do its thing. Modems get flashed in "PDA" section and that's basically it. There is more detail but that's a quick rundown. I am not the most tech saavy myself but you catch on quick. I have used it 50+ times. I will try to run down a more thorough description.
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Here's a qbking video showing Odin to go from stock Froyo to Gingerbread leak on the Epic....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nst4wvuM4zs&feature=youtube_gdata_player
And one more video showing using Odin to go back to stock when rooted and/or using custom ROM...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ2g6J1JgjU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Galaxy Nexus Guy Needing Help On Buddies Sprint Epic 4G

Hey guys posting this up for a friend.
He sent me a message the other day after I told him about the voice app that is similar to Siri on the Iphone. He said he wanted that app and asked if I could install it for him, forgetting his phone was stock I said I would. Here is the thing, he wants to keep the phone like it is so changing rom's etc is out of the question.
Here is my current situation:
I rooted the phone and SuperUser is on there and shows to be working correctly. So that's a positive!
I downloaded the the autorun thing(sorry can't think of the name right now) where you could add ClockWorkRecovery to it. It's FF18 so I done the option D on the program and it ran and completed and the phone reset like it should but it won't go into CWR by doing the PWR+VolUp+VolDown that I'm used to.
Phone is running the ICS OTA update(FF18)
He doesn't have Root Explorer or any pay for app to allow me to delete any system apps or add any by copy and pasting. I have a ZIP file I found that would allow me to add the app through CWR but I'm not sure what I done wrong or if I don't know the correct way to get into CWR on that phone. I also read online that the factory Kernel won't allow the phone to go into CWR. I hate that I'm posting a thread that is common knowledge but I don't own the phone. Thanks in advance!!
Holding down the Pwr+Vol up puts you into Cwm....Pwr+Vol dwn puts you into download mode/odin
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Post above mine will get you where you need to be dude, I'm assuming you're trying to flash the Google now apk? Or svoice? I cannot recommend Google now over svoice highly enough... svoice is not so good, a lot like siri in that way come to think of it...
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Awesome guys, thanks for the quick replies!!!
It was S Voice that he was wanting, does Google Now do the same thing? Any info/links? Much appreciated guys!!
Google now does the same thing and more, all much better than svoice and much much better than siri... overview found here... http://www.google.com/landing/now/
Apk here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1747224
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The svoice app is Samsung's Siri equivalent. Its ok, but not really anything more than a novelty. Google now is part of jelly bean (which i'm kinda surprised you don't have on your nexus, but I digress) and is a much more polished Siri competitor, that is, in many ways and in my opinion better than siri.
This is a Epic 4g touch thread not the Epic 4g. These are different phones. Go to the Epic 4g Q&A thread.
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GiantJay said:
This is a Epic 4g touch thread not the Epic 4g. These are different phones. Go to the Epic 4g Q&A thread.
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Hmm didn't know the Epic 4G had an FF18 OTA, or an ICS OTA for that matter...
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Thanks for the help! I do have Google Now on my Nexus, just didn't pay attention to the new word of "Now" after it. It's pretty neat though, I enjoy it.
I don't think it'll work on his phone since he's on the stock ROM and it says it must be a Deodexed rom. I think he'll be happy with SVoice, thanks again for your help!
If u cant get into recovery withvol up and power somethin wrong.. Maybe get mobile odin or just pc odin a better cwm with custom recovery like agat or kuban or someones
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Recovery is not safe to use on stock ff18 by the way. You could potentially brick your friend's phone. Please if you can provide current screenshots of about phone showing current rom and kernel.
im0rtalz said:
Recovery is not safe to use on stock ff18 by the way. You could potentially brick your friend's phone. Please if you can provide current screenshots of about phone showing current rom and kernel.
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He posted he already got the svoice zip flashed, regardless of the safety of the recovery he shouldn't have had to worry about it for what he was trying to do... he wasn't wiping any partitions to flash a rom or anything...
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The PWR+VolUp worked and I flashed the SVoice.zip but it didn't install the app on the phone. If you try to install it through ES File Explorer it says "Application Cannot Be Installed". That phone is kicking my ass for whatever reason, I'm sure it's because of the stock ROM. My Fascinate and Nexus never did fight me that way, but they were never on stock ROM very long.
What's the best way to install this app on a stock ROM? Thank you all for the help so far.
im0rtalz said:
Recovery is not safe to use on stock ff18 by the way. You could potentially brick your friend's phone. Please if you can provide current screenshots of about phone showing current rom and kernel.
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The only unsafe thing in the recovery is a factory reset. Flashing a zip is not gonna brick you unless it's a seriously corrupt file.
Anyone have any info to add? Why won't this app flash through the zip in CWR?
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Finally got it, thanks for your help guys!!!

[Q] Bricked T-mobile S3 can anything be done.

Ok so long story short my S3 is hard bricked. This was my first try at doing my own root and rom install. Im not sure where I messed up at.
1. I got a toolkit from http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1746682
2. Backed up all system files with the toolkit, and saved pics to my computer.
3. downloaded oden and clockworks restore (cant remember the name)
4. did factory reset
5. cleared cache
6. then installed the S3 rom I got from http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1663656
I followed all the instructions as best I could and it still messed up. is there anything I can do to reset it back to default??
Nothing comes on. no lights, no screen, no sound. only thing I get is if I take out the battery and plug it up i get a led light for about 12 secs.
mell6406 said:
Ok so long story short my S3 is hard bricked. This was my first try at doing my own root and rom install. Im not sure where I messed up at.
1. I got a toolkit from http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1746682
2. Backed up all system files with the toolkit, and saved pics to my computer.
3. downloaded oden and clockworks restore (cant remember the name)
4. did factory reset
5. cleared cache
6. then installed the S3 rom I got from http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1663656
I followed all the instructions as best I could and it still messed up. is there anything I can do to reset it back to default??
Nothing comes on. no lights, no screen, no sound. only thing I get is if I take out the battery and plug it up i get a led light for about 12 secs.
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I know on my old Samsung Vibrant (Galaxy S) it was practically impossible to brick the phone completely. You could always access download mode to restore the ROM using ODIN.
How to enter download mode on Samsung Galaxy S3
Volume down ,home, and power until the warning.
http://youtu.be/0BJlfbZNB-I
Please note I have no experience flashing ROMs on the S3 as of yet. I plan to flash the new OTA update with root already injected tomorrow.
The first time I flashed a ROM using ODIN, it screwed up somehow and of course the phone didn't work. I was freaking at that point. Then I read about download mode and was able to flash the ROM successfully.
Your best option is jtag. I flashed an incorrect rom and had to replace the main board on my SGS3 as the jtag didn't work for me.
If you're in the USA this is the person to go to, they are linked everywhere on xda
Read this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1872323
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You're definitely hard bricked. You flashed a rom for the international s3. Jtag to get it back
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I just want to say one thing: If you can somehow enter the download mode (USB jig...), it's NOT a hard brick. It's soft brick.
PS: I don't have S3, I've just seen this thread.
Sorry for my bad English.
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kogli said:
I just want to say one thing: If you can somehow enter the download mode (USB jig...), it's NOT a hard brick. It's soft brick.
PS: I don't have S3, I've just seen this thread.
Sorry for my bad English.
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Its a hard brick dude. He flashed wrong ROM .
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bfranklin1986 said:
You're definitely hard bricked. You flashed a rom for the international s3. Jtag to get it back
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where did it say where the rom was from? I didnt see it in the thread. What else did I do wrong?
mell6406 said:
where did it say where the rom was from? I didnt see it in the thread. What else did I do wrong?
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If you click the ROM link that you yourself posted in the OP it's clearly to the international GS3 forum.
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kogli said:
I just want to say one thing: If you can somehow enter the download mode (USB jig...), it's NOT a hard brick. It's soft brick.
PS: I don't have S3, I've just seen this thread.
Sorry for my bad English.
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I cant get into any kind of menu I have used every button combo I can think of. I also tried to offer it money, drugs and sex....I got nothing...
In the rom thread I used where does it say that the phone was the international version? I called myself reading the thread before I tried anything.
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I cant get into any kind of menu I have used every button combo I can think of. I also tried to offer it money, drugs and sex....I got nothing...
In the rom thread I used where does it say that the phone was the international version? I called myself reading the thread before I tried anything.
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It's from the international section, anything from the international section will brick our phones, they are completely different, they have 4 cores and 1gb ram, we have 2 cores and 2gb ram. The only roms that are safe to flash are the ones in the T-Mobile galaxy s3 section
You can give it all the drugs and sex you want but the only thing that will help it is a jtag
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bfranklin1986 said:
It's from the international section, anything from the international section will brick our phones, they are completely different, they have 4 cores and 1gb ram, we have 2 cores and 2gb ram. The only roms that are safe to flash are the ones in the T-Mobile galaxy s3 section
You can give it all the drugs and sex you want but the only thing that will help it is a jtag
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OK thanks. I got there from a google search so I didnt pay attention to the section(noob). But with the rom aside everything else was done correctly?
Yes everything else looks fine, just pick a rom from the right section next time
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bfranklin1986 said:
Yes everything else looks fine, just pick a rom from the right section next time
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ok thankx alot. So from checking the net my options are to pay 60$ for a jtag, play dumb for t mobile and get it replaced since they wont be able to turn it on. or buy a new phone. Is there any cons to the t mobile rote? I mean what are the chances of it biting my in the rear?
Personally I would get it jtaged. Rather than have Tmobile take care of your mess up and passing the cost on to the rest of their consumers.
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[Q] Which recovery is the best?

I recently used rumrunner to gain s-off and root and I flashed CWM recovery. I have read different posts stating CWM is flaky on the One, and I've also read posts saying TWRP is flaky. Can anyone clear this up?
I've used TWRP on almost every device I've had and have never had an issue with it. I'm currently using TWRP with no issues.
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I used TWRP and had no problems. I'm a noob at all this and I couldn't have asked for it to have been easier.
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irie27 said:
I recently used rumrunner to gain s-off and root and I flashed CWM recovery. I have read different posts stating CWM is flaky on the One, and I've also read posts saying TWRP is flaky. Can anyone clear this up?
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Cwm is flaky period not just on the one. Twrp has been the only real choice for years.
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I have had nothing but good luck with CWM myself.
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TWRP and Story time
I'm currently using TWRP with no issues, and never had any, starting way back on the OG Evo.
I do remember installing clockwork on the old school T-Mobile G1 (Dream) and I didn't have any issues. Koush spearheaded the recovery project for us, he will always have that title of being the 'first' with his clockworkmod's. (a tip of the hat to Koush)
Reminds me a little of this story I learned a while back. I heard it was true too...
The importance of a beginning in anything isn't always about that first product or creation in the project. The importance is whether the original design and goal is met at the end and/or in the end product. I.E. Adam.
He was the first to be created of humanity but the original purpose for his creation did not meet all of the requirements of his Creator. Instead of scrapping the original product and starting anew, there was a plan to restore and rectify on the original project, or as i like to call it, the original "storyline".
The similarity of this story to the OP takes a turn here. Where as Koush didn't fully rectify his original product (Clockworkmod) and make a better one, the Creator of humanity did indeed follow up on His promise to begin in the restoration of the original design of His story: the "Second Adam".
One was born from the dust of the earth (ie 'first' Adam; the other birthed from the Spirit of God in Heaven ('Second' Adam).
The first Adam was born perfect but ultimately failed in its original design and purpose. But alas, One had come, the Second Adam, who did not fall or fail, but came, conquered ,and was victorious in all that man was suppose to represent and so so much more...
I use cwm just because I like it better, I've had no issues so far with it. Once 4ext is available I'll be using that, best I've used to date.
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Truthfully I was CWM all day every phone no matter what.
I wouldn't even give TWRP a chance, once I did though, I never looked back, haven't been back on CWM since either.
I do have a gripe with a menu set up. Nothing major and enough for me to change. I highly suggest TWRP.
I like TWRP more. Better UI, navigation and features. That said, I use CWM. After experiencing bugs and instability with TWRP on the S4, I returned to the recovery that has never failed me, CWM.
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I use TWRP and have no complaints. Never did with CWM either. The winner for me is TWRP though, because I like being able to add multiple zip files to flash at once instead of flashing them one at-a-time with CWM, not a big deal but saves some time.
I would love to see 4ext make a comeback. Best recovery ever.
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tylerlawhon said:
I would love to see 4ext make a comeback. Best recovery ever.
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I just actually received an email from max about 4ext for the One. In short - the framework of his recovery needs an overhall to work with the larger resolutions, multi-cores, etc. He has a lot of work ahead of him so if he does try to revamp it for the One it will be some time. But I would switch from TWRP to 4ext in a heartbeat...handsdown the best.
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I just actually received an email from max about 4ext for the One. In short - the framework of his recovery needs an overhall to work with the larger resolutions, multi-cores, etc. He has a lot of work ahead of him so if he does try to revamp it for the One it will be some time. But I would switch from TWRP to 4ext in a heartbeat...handsdown the best.
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Same here. I love twrp, but pales so hard in comparison with 4ext
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Same here. I love twrp, but pales so hard in comparison with 4ext
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+1.
I actually forgot all about this recovery.
The best.
Anyone who uses CWM is a commie... Lol
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Anyone who uses CWM is a commie... Lol
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I use CWM
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I use CWM
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Almost anyone in that case lol
I used cwm with the original droid and it worked fine but when newer phones came out I noticed issues like on my dinc and bolt I had backups that was corrupted and I wasn't happy and moved to twrp and never had an issue since. I did move to 4ext with the bolt and that must say was the best over all. I miss 4ext when I got rid of the bolt but hope it comes to the one soon. It was so user friendly.
I've used CWM on my HP tablet, installed on a few other phones. Honestly, I've never given TWRP a chance. Is there anything I'm missing by not using it. I guess I'm just more used to the look and feel of CWM
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Can someone please help a semi-noob???

So here is the fun story.
I was trying to get Firefox OS to work on my Sprint LG Optimus G and TWRP saud it failed. I have done this before with no issues really, but the second time made it angry. I know the device powers on because when I plug it up to my computer and hold the power button, the red LED light comes on. I can not get it to boot into anything. No Fastboot, TWRP, Download, or even CM11. All I can do is see a pretty red light. ? Can anyone help me?
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Try asking autoprime
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1984622
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did you try cwm instead
TWRP has been kind of picky when it comes to installing some roms like when i would try and install cm11 it would not work in TWRP but then after a quick flash to CWM it installs just fine i think its because cwm has the upper hand when it comes to installing possibly broken things where TWRP is for those people who don't want to accidentally ruin their devices because of lack of experience cwm has worked allot better for me and as far as your boot issue goes i would let it charge for a couple hours then hold the power button for 15 seconds so that way its powered off and then attempt to get into download mode. If you can do that then you can use LGNPST_ACG to do a secure boot loader unlock so that way you can flash cwm and go from there. I hope my experience and advice helps you out in your time of need. Good luck we are rooting for you
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TWRP has been kind of picky when it comes to installing some roms like when i would try and install cm11 it would not work in TWRP but then after a quick flash to CWM it installs just fine i think its because cwm has the upper hand when it comes to installing possibly broken things where TWRP is for those people who don't want to accidentally ruin their devices because of lack of experience cwm has worked allot better for me and as far as your boot issue goes i would let it charge for a couple hours then hold the power button for 15 seconds so that way its powered off and then attempt to get into download mode. If you can do that then you can use LGNPST_ACG to do a secure boot loader unlock so that way you can flash cwm and go from there. I hope my experience and advice helps you out in your time of need. Good luck we are rooting for you
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You have to use the freegee version of twrp to flash cm11.
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i have tried that before
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You have to use the freegee version of twrp to flash cm11.
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I have tried using the FreeGee verison of TWRP and it doesn't play nicely with some roms however with the roms that are incompatible with twrp i have installed successfully using cwm v.6.0.4.5 non touch enabled and it has proven to be much more compatible with some roms due to CWM and their relationship with the cyanogenmod team. twrp has a nicer ui however it does tend to have some compatibility issues. I have been developing for about 3 years and i have mainly used cwm until i got a galaxy tab 2 7in wifi with ir blaster then i moved on to twrp and loved it but when i got my ls970 twrp proved to have some issues with a couple of roms. when i tried the same files on cwm they worked just fine. so give cwm a shot it might work let us know how it goes
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So here is the fun story.
I was trying to get Firefox OS to work on my Sprint LG Optimus G and TWRP saud it failed. I have done this before with no issues really, but the second time made it angry. I know the device powers on because when I plug it up to my computer and hold the power button, the red LED light comes on. I can not get it to boot into anything. No Fastboot, TWRP, Download, or even CM11. All I can do is see a pretty red light. ? Can anyone help me?
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I had the same problem but for a completely different reason a few days ago. I plugged it into the wall for a few minutes and finally got it past that red light and into TWRP. I can't say it will work for you because the causes are completely different(mine was a kernel overclock error - my battery went from 100% - 0% in around 10 minutes and overheated). I plugged it in and saw that red light but it wouldnt turn on - ofcourse panic sets in bc its my only phone and I thought I fried it by overclocking. But I took a deep breathe, left it plugged in and when I came back it booted up. When I got into TWRP my battery read 1%, so I did a full wipe and restored my backup, then my battery read 99%, lol. Again mine was a kernel issue so that may not work for you. Partimus is right, autoprime would surely know - but you may have to do the dreaded battery pull(there are videos on youtube) to reset the phone.
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I have tried using the FreeGee verison of TWRP and it doesn't play nicely with some roms however with the roms that are incompatible with twrp i have installed successfully using cwm v.6.0.4.5 non touch enabled and it has proven to be much more compatible with some roms due to CWM and their relationship with the cyanogenmod team. twrp has a nicer ui however it does tend to have some compatibility issues. I have been developing for about 3 years and i have mainly used cwm until i got a galaxy tab 2 7in wifi with ir blaster then i moved on to twrp and loved it but when i got my ls970 twrp proved to have some issues with a couple of roms. when i tried the same files on cwm they worked just fine. so give cwm a shot it might work let us know how it goes
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The only problems I've had with TWRP were AOSP 4.4.x related. TWRP 2.5.0.0 has still been the most stable and trustworthy for the ls970 imo. However you need TWRP 2.6.3.x for anything 4.4. And you are right the FreeGee version of TWRP works with CM11 but has issues with other roms. twrp-geespr from chadouming works well on the other roms but not with CM11. However most of the "failed" issues happen with TWRP because of the asserts in the updater-script. If you open the zip and edit or flat out delete the assert it will almost always flash perfectly. I've even flashed unported nexus 4 roms to my device this way(obviously not much worked network wise besides wifi but it still installed and booted into android). CWM 6.0.4.5 seems to flash 4.4 roms fine but since my efs backups are TWRP, I will personally always have to flash back to TWRP if something goes wrong.
But the reason TWRP has compatibility issues is because of those asserts in the updater-script, which are absolutely safety measures. Our phone has been named a lot of things by the devs(ls970, geespr, geehrc4g, etc) so if TWRP checks for geespr but thinks your phone is an ls970, the flash will fail. Even if they are the same thing just named differently - TWRP doesnt know that and will stop the install to protect your device. Noob or not, that's a good thing and could possibly save you from bricking your device. The other issue(and why we can't flash 4.4 from TWRP 2.5.0.0) has to do with the SELinux changes that came with 4.4. Only one 4.4 rom would install for me via TWRP 2.5.0.0 and that was a port of houstonns AOSP4.4 because he disabled the SELinux changes.
So while I agree that CWM 6.0.4.5 seems to work great when installing 4.4.x roms, for as long as Ive had this phone, TWRP 2.5.0.0 has been all around the most stable. If I want to flash 4.4 I will install CWM or TWRP from recovery but always end up going back to TWRP 2.5.0.0 because I know it keeps my efs safe. But if you are keeping your 4.4 rom, you have no choice but to stick with updated TWRP or CWM and in this case I have heard of less issues with CWM than TWRP.
Yeah, I never had compatibility issues until 4.4
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Yeah, I never had compatibility issues until 4.4
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It's that damn SELinux! :silly:
I tried plugging it in for like an hour and when I came back, it had the charging light. It still wouldnt boot. I have ordered a torx 5 and torx 6 screwdrivers so I can do a battery pull.
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Did you get the plastic pry bar as well? The outer case can be a pain in the as$ and you don't want to break anything. Also take your time with the battery, when I did mine I felt like they put way to much adhesive on it.
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Yes. I did. I also have a spare guitar pick if it doesnt work.
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I finally got the screwdrivers, which took forever to ship, and doing a battery disconnect does not help the phone reboot. What do I do now? Any help suggestions?
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I finally got the screwdrivers, which took forever to ship, and doing a battery disconnect does not help the phone reboot. What do I do now? Any help suggestions?
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Ouch, battery pull didn't help? How long did you leave the battery out before putting it back in? And is still doing the exact same thing, no lg logo, nothing but red blinking light when trying to power on?
And how did you get this phone? Did you get it from Sprint or from a place like BestBuy, etc?
Well, it's still doing the red light thing and when I plug it into my computer, it shows that it shows up and wants me to install drivers for QHSHUB_DLOAD. LGNPST doesn't recognize the device. I got the phone from Sprint, but I have upgraded since and have flashed the phone a few times, so the warranty may be void. I left the battery unplugged for a few minutes.
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Well, it's still doing the red light thing and when I plug it into my computer, it shows that it shows up and wants me to install drivers for QHSHUB_DLOAD. LGNPST doesn't recognize the device. I got the phone from Sprint, but I have upgraded since and have flashed the phone a few times, so the warranty may be void. I left the battery unplugged for a few minutes.
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The upgrade is your biggest worry for voiding the warranty. Rooting does not void a sprint warranty - they wont advertise it but it's true - so I would try to take it back to them. If you upgraded and it's no longer on their network, meaning your phone number was switched to your upgrade, they probably won't help. If you were still able to use it as a phone before it went down, meaning it's still a line on your plan, they might. QHSUB_DLOAD means it's hard bricked, I don't think there is anything you can do if you see that. QHSUB_DLOAD is pretty universal when it comes to being hard bricked across devices.
There is a fix for phones with removable storage but since we don't have an actual sd card slot, it's bricked, and sadly unless Sprint gives you a new one, you're screwed.
Oh, so if I activate it, will they help me?
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Oh, so if I activate it, will they help me?
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That means it's no longer activated, so probably not. It's bricked so they can't activate that particular phone, and if it's no longer a line on your network I think it's warranty is up. However, I don't work for Sprint so I would still take it to them and see if they can do anything but I wouldn't get my hopes up. If it was still a line and had a phone number attached, you would still be under warranty and they would replace it with a new lgog.
HP's right. That Dload is a brick. The only fix I know if is "jtag". It a service that's getting more popular but at a price. I think, and I hope it's OK if I say this, but autoprime performs this service on our phones I think.
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HP's right. That Dload is a brick. The only fix I know if is "jtag". It a service that's getting more popular but at a price. I think, and I hope it's OK if I say this, but autoprime performs this service on our phones I think.
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Learn somethin new everyday! And actually I did know about jtag, but I forgot about it, lol. It's where they send signals directly to 6 circular pins on the board. It's obviously more in depth than that, but yeah, good catch as always @engine95.
It can be expensive because the hardware boxes that deliver the code are very expensive. If Sprint doesn't do anything(and they probably won't), I'd ask autoprime - nicely.
EDIT: Thanks for reminding me @engine95. I'm yet again out of thanks for the day. You're the man!
Well, the phone is only a few months old. I took an upgrade on another phone because said person didn't want to upgrade. I will take it to Sprint sometime this week. It just snowed bland this is an area where it hardly snows, so everything is closed due to panic. I may take it Thursday and see if they can do anything.
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