Good Evening Folks,
Is there a chance of an 850/2100 variant being released, like HTC did with the Touch HD for Australia's Telstra's NextG (850/2100) network?
I'm from New Zealand and a new 850/2100 network is launching next week. I would love to have the Touch Pro 2.
The word here is that if there is a variant released for AT&T, then us down under folks can use the same model, via an unlocked model from Expansys.
Cheers!
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I'm with you. I use NextG and it p1$$es me off that none of the phones work properly unless Tel$tra bothers to support them. Given that they have picked the HD, they probably won't support this phone.
That said, apparently the inards of the TouchHD, Diamond2 and Pro2 are identical - only the case and features differ. So... maybe one of the talents folks in this community can extract the Radio ROM and port it across. Don't know if that will do the trick .. what do you think???
i was reading that the touch pro 2 may in fact come with 2 radio roms, fingers crossed, somewhere in the htc world, an 850 variant will be released unlocked for aussie's nextG and telecom's XT networks!
the tp2 will be sold by expansys as of 12 june 2009. it will be the default 900/2100 version. in new zealand, the new XT network will be 850 everywhere and 2100 for the large cities. i know it would where i am, but having it die soon as im out of the city limits is a killer.
cmon HTC! give us our 850 variant
The AT&T version was just leaked on engadget and has 850, 1900, 2100 3G.
I have been seaching thoroughly online for somewhere to purchase either the Samsung Omnia 7 (not Focus), HTC HD7 or Dell Venue Pro from an online retailer with bands that are compatible with AT&T/Telus/Bell/Telstra.
The bands required are:
HSPA/WCDMA:
850/1900 Mhz
Quad Band GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 Mhz
So far I haven't had any luck in my search and assume they just aren't available YET. My current phone the HD2 has pushed my tolerance to it's limit and I refuse to do yet another hard reset so hoping I can just get a new phone. So if anyone knows where I can find what I'm looking for it would be very appreciated!
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/11/windows-phone-7-handsets-the-tale-of-the-tape/
Look there for handset compatibility.
Unfortunately for you, the only phones with North American 3G bands are LG Optimus 7, HTC Surround, LG Quantum (I think...on Bell), and Samsung Focus. The rest are either only support T-Mobile/WIND frequencies, or are European 3G dualbands. Sad, isn't it? I wanted to get the Omnia 7 as well...
pistol44 said:
I have been seaching thoroughly online for somewhere to purchase either the Samsung Omnia 7 (not Focus), HTC HD7 or Dell Venue Pro from an online retailer with bands that are compatible with AT&T/Telus/Bell/Telstra.
The bands required are:
HSPA/WCDMA:
850/1900 Mhz
Quad Band GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 Mhz
So far I haven't had any luck in my search and assume they just aren't available YET. My current phone the HD2 has pushed my tolerance to it's limit and I refuse to do yet another hard reset so hoping I can just get a new phone. So if anyone knows where I can find what I'm looking for it would be very appreciated!
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The Dell Venue Pro supports all of the above.
kapanak said:
Unfortunately for you, the only phones with North American 3G bands are LG Optimus 7, HTC Surround, LG Quantum (I think...on Bell), and Samsung Focus. The rest are either only support T-Mobile/WIND frequencies, or are European 3G dualbands. Sad, isn't it? I wanted to get the Omnia 7 as well...
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True but I'm expecting for the other bands variants to show up on some places around the net. I own the HD2 and am using it with 3G on Telus because I bought the Telstra variant which shares the same bands. Regardless of the fact it never came to AT&T/Bell/Telus. There will always be models with different bands so essentially I'm trying to find those but just not familiar with the sources.
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The Dell Venue Pro supports all of the above.
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Do you have a source where this model can be purchased? I have yet to find it myself..
Hi all,
Sorry if this has been asked before, but couldn't find any info. I'm interested if anybody knows if a t-mobile Lumia 900 will run on the AT&T network, and if so under what bands? I haven't been able to find any information on whether there's a hardware difference radio wise between the two or not. Or if it would be locked in any regards.
Thanks all!
T-mobile 3G runs on 1700Mhz and 2100 Mhz. AT&T 3G runs on 850Mhz and 1900Mhz. It is possible that new T-Mobile phones also support 1900Mhz for 3G.
Both network use 850 and 1900Mhz for 2G.
So, it really up to the specific phone to support additional bands. You will have to find the detail spec for that specific phone (I'm not aware that T-Mobile even have Lumia 900).
Viearical said:
Hi all,
Sorry if this has been asked before, but couldn't find any info. I'm interested if anybody knows if a t-mobile Lumia 900 will run on the AT&T network, and if so under what bands? I haven't been able to find any information on whether there's a hardware difference radio wise between the two or not. Or if it would be locked in any regards.
Thanks all!
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Are you referring to a European division of T-Mobile when you ask about a Lumia 900? T-Mobile USA only has the Lumia 710; they don't have the Lumia 900.
Hola folks!
After finding enough screenshots/video reviews, I am beginning to think that from a hardware perspective the S and L variants are identical (including supported bands), whereas the K is only slightly different from S/L.
Any images of the back cover off on the K models (Olleh) will show "F400 0425 K" indicating the hardware is the "K" variant. (If you watch the review video http://www.androidcentral.com/lg-g3-review, you will notice this info up at the top on the backside, right above the camera.) UPDATE: Here is another link with an image http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/06/lg-g3-review-a-great-phone-with-way-too-many-pixels/#image-4
On the S/L (SK Telecom, LG U+) models, they say "F400 0423 S/L" on the SK Telecom model ("S" variant), and "F400 0425 S/L" on the LG U+ model ("L" variant). You can find images of the "S" model with engadget's review (http://www.engadget.com/gallery/lg-g3-review/2676959/#!slide=2676963), and images of the "L" model with ubreakifix's F400L teardown (http://www.ubreakifix.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/ubif-g3-21.jpg).
(Thanks and kudos to the review sites and teardown site for the images.)
As an owner of the F400S, I can tell you that all 3 variants will run on AT&T LTE (as a lot of our LTE is on Band 17 - 700 MHz spectrum). I was able to load my F400S with the TOT and DLL files of all 3 variants (currently waiting on getting it back to the "S" variant once the DLL is posted), and all 3 variants will connect to AT&T with no issues (for those of you that plan on importing like I did).
So for those of you who managed to brick your new G3, as long as you can ADB into it, you can edit your build.prop file with the corresponding korean variant model info, and load any stock image. As @wolfgart has posted a great thread with the TOTs and DLLs, I recommend swinging through there for more info. If you have a K variant, load the K TOT and DLL, and you are fine.
For those of us with S/L variants--with the above info and enough tinkering in the hidden menus of all 3 variants, I can tell you that from a hardware perspective these two models are nearly identical. From a modem/supported frequencies perspective, the S and L variants support the exact same frequencies--meaning, if you bricked your S or L version, you can restore it with an S or L TOT and DLL (after editing build.prop if needed) and you will still get all of your original hardware supported bands/frequencies. This is critical for those of you using LTE Band 5 to connect to your data... (should not be the case for any US AT&T users...).
UPDATE: in the 'Android Development' section, wolfgart's thread with the TOTs and DLLs have been updated to now include the files for all 3 models. So unless you know what you are doing with a build.prop edit, probably best to stick with what came with the phones for those who are new to this stuff.
The main difference between the S/L and K phones in frequency/band support is that LTE Band 8 is supported on the K model only, whereas you will get LTE Band 5 support on the S/L models. All other bands and frequencies (WCDMA/GSM) are the same across all 3 models. All 3 also support LTE Band 17, and will connect to AT&T in the US.
Took me a while to figure this out, but I had a long weekend
Cool! nice to know, thanks for the well explained post
Any thoughts about the L/S version suporting LTE Band 7?
Thanks
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Any thoughts about the L/S version suporting LTE Band 7?
Thanks
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Unfortunately, I don't connect to LTE with band 7 so I can't say much on that. However, just based on the hidden menus in both (I am using the L version on my S variant phone at the moment), they both have the same listings of 1,3,5,7 for supported bands.
LTE 700, 850, 1800, 2100, 2600 (Band 17, Band 5, Band 3, Band 1, and Band 7 respectively)
UMTS 850, 1900, 2100
GSM 800, 900, 1800, 1900
The above are the fully supported bands on the S and L variants.
The below are the fully supported bands on the K variant.
LTE 700, 900, 1800, 2100, 2600 (Band 17, Band 8, Band 3, Band 1, and Band 7 respectively)
UMTS 850, 1900, 2100
GSM 800, 900, 1800, 1900
I don't have the K variant on my device now, but I recall the only band difference is that it supports LTE band 8 (900 MHz) instead of LTE band 5 (850 MHz), but other supported bands are the same. LTE Band 5 is one of the primary bands for both SK Telecom and LG U+ (which partially explains why the two phones have nearly identical hardware, including modem support).
Hope this answers your question. As support for those frequencies are built in (and it makes sense on LG as a mass manufacturer--They can use the same modem and just rebrand it like they did in Korea for the S and L variants).
Why is the S one more expensive than the L?
gsanches said:
Why is the S one more expensive than the L?
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That, my friend, is a question you will have to ask LG and SK Telecom. We sorta see that in the US every so often with "special editions" that aren't really that special and they will add an extra 100ish.
Off-contract, LG U+ is the most affordable right now, with SK Telecom right around $700 USD. With markup and shipping, etc. eBayers are selling it for $750-800.
Also, you have to remember the G3 is a hot commodity even in Korea right now. Had some friends who thought it was funny I got a phone overseas before they even bothered joining the bandwagon.
So though I can't say for sure why exactly it's more expensive, I can definitely say it has to do with the fact that the phone is still only 3 weeks old
And none of those 3 will work on T-Mobile LTE which needs 1700 and 2100Mhz most of time.
There are some spots with 900Mhz support though.
But as much as I want G3, I'll wait for the T-Mo version.
Yeah...I'm a proud owner of a Htc One M7...I have been thinking a lot and decided that it's time to change. I'm comparing the M8, the Z2, the G3 for a long time and finally think that this last one will be the one...unfortunately it's still very soon to easily find information regarding this phone online...
Your information helped me a lot...now I know exactly which variant to buy :fingers-crossed:...thank you guys very much
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Yeah...I'm a proud owner of a Htc One M7...I have been thinking a lot and decided that it's time to change. I'm comparing the M8, the Z2, the G3 for a long time and finally think that this last one will be the one...unfortunately it's still very soon to easily find information regarding this phone online...
Your information helped me a lot...now I know exactly which variant to buy :fingers-crossed:...thank you guys very much
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It looks like you are planning on doing the same upgrade I did. I still have my M7 as my backup , but definitely gotta say I am loving my G3.
That's amazing man...I've been a HTC fan since the Sensation...but currently I feel that they are been left behind...
I'm really sorry, but other brands are offering a lot more for the same price.
The HTC will always win in design and the quality of the phone's body, screen and, of course, sound!...but they are losing in the rest...UI, camera, battery life definitely...it's just sad
Nice to know that you're enjoying your G3...I hope I'll be as happy as you are in a few weeks...and judging by how much I've researched about it...I'm sure I'll love it!!!
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sorry, which of these three variants brings FM radio? K, L, S, and if for example buy the K version, if you install the L or S variant fm radio works?
I´m about to buy a G3 and found some model have an antenna, is that correct?, anybody knows what tv frequencies can handle?. Thanks!
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sorry, which of these three variants brings FM radio? K, L, S, and if for example buy the K version, if you install the L or S variant fm radio works?
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From my research, none of the korean models (F400 S/K/L) support FM radio. Instead of an FM radio tuner, they are offered with Korea's DMB tuner, for korean DMB support.
I have only seen DMB function while in Korea and Japan. Anywhere else in the world, you will have to check with local providers, as some countries will charge for DMB as a service (just like satellite television).
Hope this helps
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I´m about to buy a G3 and found some model have an antenna, is that correct?, anybody knows what tv frequencies can handle?. Thanks!
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The only frequencies it can support is anything broadcasted as DMB. Certain countries offer DMB subscription services, but you will have to research if it is offered where you live.
In the US, DMB is unavailable so I just have a nice long antenna that people crack up at in the year 2014, but completely unusable where I am. I just tell them its for better service as a side joke lol
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The only frequencies it can support is anything broadcasted as DMB. Certain countries offer DMB subscription services, but you will have to research if it is offered where you live.
In the US, DMB is unavailable so I just have a nice long antenna that people crack up at in the year 2014, but completely unusable where I am. I just tell them its for better service as a side joke lol
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OK! Thank you
Anyone know which one is the best for AT&T
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Anyone know which one is the best for AT&T
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Any of them will do. I would say go for the one that gives you the best price. At this point, enough AT&T users have gotten their hands on all 3 variants. Most can get LTE through band 17 (700 MHz) which is available on all 3 phones.
Will the D855 variant (with LTE 700MHz) be able to use on AT&T (band class 17) or Verizon (band class 13)?
Or to be more specific, will the D855 cover all 700MHz US band class (12, 13, 14, and 17)?
Thanks!
kittiyut said:
Will the D855 variant (with LTE 700MHz) be able to use on AT&T (band class 17) or Verizon (band class 13)?
Or to be more specific, will the D855 cover all 700MHz US band class (12, 13, 14, and 17)?
Thanks!
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You would have to check which specific band class of 700 MHz the D855 would be capable of connecting to. As I do not have the D855, and specs are varied on the internet right now, I cannot say for sure.
The FCC had ruled four separate band classes to operate on the 700 MHz spectrum in America--Band 17 700 MHz capable modems cannot connect to any of the other 700 MHz band classes and vice versa. (It was claimed that they did not want to have any network interference issues. Carriers purchased the rights to access certain chunks of the 700 MHz spectrum, and they are isolated to those carriers only.)
I am seeing 700MHz (B28) support on D855 models, but I believe that might be related to certain LTE-A rollouts in Europe (meaning it may not be able to connect to current 700 MHz bands in the US (as the US does not have LTE-A networks at the moment) and new band classes are issued for LTE-A (i.e. Band 28).
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The only frequencies it can support is anything broadcasted as DMB. Certain countries offer DMB subscription services, but you will have to research if it is offered where you live.
In the US, DMB is unavailable so I just have a nice long antenna that people crack up at in the year 2014, but completely unusable where I am. I just tell them its for better service as a side joke lol
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Does the antenna stand out much? Or is it hidden? Thanks
Hello,
I'm going to buy a Nokia XL 4G, but I have two very important questions before buy it.
For first there is connection. I yet know 4G connection is working in china only, but about 3G connection it features both td-scdma and wcmcda, but in Nokia Site there is written that wcmcda 'works on international roaming', so I'm in Italy. If I use the telephone with an italian sim card, will it works in 3g with wcmcda even if I'm not using international roaming?
If not, considering the wcmcda frequence is available in the phone, will it be possible to set it as normal frequence instead of td-scmda?
The second question is, will it be possible to use custom firmwares from normal Nokia X and XL event if it has different cpu and ram? Or at least, considering it has the same software platform, obtaining root access in the same way of normal Nokia X?
No one knows it?
First, I don;t know what you mean.
Second, Probably yes.
3g networks go on different frequencies in base of the country.
The 3g standard in europe is called wcdma, the chinese standard is called td-scdma.
If a telephone has td-scdma only, it can't works in europe.
In Nokia XL 4G it features both td-scdma and wcdma.. but in Nokia.cn site there is written a little note at the voice wcdma:"Works on international roaming only". Some chinese operators use both standards, so both td-scdma and wcdma are available in china.
In Nokia XL 4G wcdma has a maximum speed of 7.2mbps and td-scdma 2.36mbps.. so for sure "on international roaming only" means that a chinese sim card in china can't use wcdma. But it could also means that a local sim card of a country that has wcdma standard only can't use it because it's not in international roaming state.
I'd like to ask If someone knows if it works in wcdma without international roaming.. of else I don't know, if someone has a Nokia XL 4G in an european country can respond me.
Is there any hope to obtain some responses?