IRC Channel for Lumia Devs - Nokia Lumia 900

Hey everyone. I just bought my lumia today, and am normally an android dev, however I really like the looks of WP7 so I got this. I setup the ##lumia channel for regulars and ##lumia-dev for developers, on freenode if any devs want to join in.

Willing to help
Wish i had the skills to do what you guys do. But if you need any testers let me know Id be more than happy to see what we can really get out of these devices.

Android VS WP7.5 mango
Hey,
Noticed you said you are and android Dev and switching to the lumia 900... How has your experiance been so far? I myself am a big android user (also I am the founder of #Android on dalnet, more than welcome to join im looking for some devs as ops in the chan just msg me i go by the nick Burnt). I am currently using a T989 SGSII Hercules fully rooted with ICS 4.0.3. Ive been a pretty die hard android guy for years and have sworn by it. I recently Got my hands on a lumia and i must say i am VERY impressed with it. Very sleek, sttractive, and simple to use but i have had windows phones before and always got a bad taste after using them. So seeing a Dev switching up to a lumia 900 i HAVE to ask what are your feelings after switching? are you satisfied with wp7.5 and nokia lumia 900 in general??
I work for a distributor for h20, redpocket, and simple mobile so i was originaly considering picking up the lumia and popping in a h20 or redpocket sim and keeping it as an extra line but honestly i do not have any need to carry around 2phone withgiant touch screens plus i have android tablets (just overkill). so now i need to make a decision do i go to the "darkside" and switch to windows 7.5 mango or stay with what i know and love... Android
any feedback you have in regards to the OS and the lumia would be greatly appreciated. Also how has your experiance been with the data on the phone? have you used the lte yet? How is the market / apps availability on 7.5 mango (another big concern of mine... got to have a decent app selection)
Thanks!!

Short answer: I loved the Lumia 900, loved WP7. Turned it in for an SGS2-I777.
Long Answer (ie. Why I went back): I was talking with a few other devs on IRC one being Elite Recognized Dev jcase, about a way to go about cracking the OS for sideloading XAPS, registry editors, and the like. I was having a very hard time finding an exploit. Not a few days after purchasing the Lumia the xda blog posted about the death of the Chevron tokens. I became furious with microsoft for backing out on their word, and promptly decided a company that would do that didn't deserve my time and effort to make their platform better.

If you guys can get WIFI to stay on while sleep, it would be great!

xsever said:
If you guys can get WIFI to stay on while sleep, it would be great!
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Read all 4 posts in the thread.

Although this is a great idea this post should be in general, so moving to General.
Cheers

C0deMaver1ck said:
Read all 4 posts in the thread.
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I just had the time to fully read everything. Sad to see developers loose interest since Microsoft chose to keep everything closed. If there is anything an advanced user can help with, please let me know.
I'm expecting my Lumia 900 to arrive anytime this week.

Realityfalse said:
Wish i had the skills to do what you guys do. But if you need any testers let me know Id be more than happy to see what we can really get out of these devices.
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I know it's off topic, but if you're interested, it isn't that hard. Rich Dunbar is a Nokia Developer Ambassador, which means if you tweet at him (if you use Twitter) he'll give you everything you need to get started, including a free developer account (most likely)
https://twitter.com/#!/richdunbar

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Nokia and Windows phone 7

As many of you already know , nokia and microsoft are partners from now on , and some people are really looking forward to it. I can't wait to see Nokia windows phone 7 phones out there. I was wondering what do you guys, on this forum think about it? Does it have a future or not? . For those who didnt see it but you probably did, check out the nokia-confirmed-concept-for-first-windows-phone-7-devices/"]concept of the prototype's (btw this is confirmed from nokia)
It will suck just like all nokia smartphones!
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It will suck just like all nokia smartphones!
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You registered just for that?
To the OP: Nokia makes excellent hardware with very good build quality (N8 for example), and has some outstanding services and other applications I think will benefit anybody with a wp7. So with wp7's great UI and their great Hardware, I am eagerly awaiting a release of an upper end phone from Nokia.
Now we just need faster OS updating and we could be in for a great ride. Here's to hoping.
@markomarkogame,
Hi and welcome to the forums. There have been many threads created about Nokia and WP7, in which there have been discussions just like the one you're starting.
You may find that they are very useful and that it is somewhat unnecessary to start a new thread. We encourage users to search before posting.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951732&highlight=nokia
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=880622&highlight=nokia
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=950065&highlight=nokia
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951292&highlight=nokia
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dtboos said:
You registered just for that?
To the OP: Nokia makes excellent hardware with very good build quality (N8 for example), and has some outstanding services and other applications I think will benefit anybody with a wp7. So with wp7's great UI and their great Hardware, I am eagerly awaiting a release of an upper end phone from Nokia.
Now we just need faster OS updating and we could be in for a great ride. Here's to hoping.
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hey sry im new to forum. gotta get used to it.
anyway ur right at what u said. i remember when my nokia phone fell on floor, and i say Dont worry its nokia
markomarkogame said:
hey sry im new to forum. gotta get used to it.
anyway ur right at what u said. i remember when my nokia phone fell on floor, and i say Dont worry its nokia
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The first comment was directed at "julisbulis" who apparently registered just to say they are going to suck lol.
Nokia Windows Phone is 'absolutely stunning’
"Absolutely stunning." That’s how everyone that's been shown Nokia's new Windows Phone 7 smartphone describes the device. This is according to Nokia’s Conor Pierce, general manager for UK and Ireland, in a one to one interview with Pocket-lint.
"To the partners we have shown the device to, their words, not necessarily mine - although I agree - upon showing it to them. It's spontaneous and unprompted. They say ‘the first Nokia Windows Phone is absolutely stunning’ and that’s die hard gurus in this business, who have thick skin," boasts Pierce.
"For them to say that spontaneously without any sales pitch shows what we are bringing is pretty spectacular. And that’s only the beginning.”
The phone Pierce is talking about is, of course, the soon to be announced, and hopefully soon to be released, Nokia Windows Phone. Dubbed Sea Ray and already enjoying its fair share of leaks, it is the company’s first foray into the Microsoft Windows Phone 7 operating system and the phone that it hopes will help it turn around the fortunes of the once proud Finnish mobile phone maker.
"I’ve actually got one in my pocket, but I can't show you," he teases, leaving Pocket-lint unable to confirm the opinion of so many gurus.
Pierce, who also adds that he has "seen what’s coming," is very confident that the launch of Nokia Windows Phone 7 devices in the coming months is going to be the success that the company so drastically needs.
Rest of the interview here if anyone is interested: http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/42235/nokia-windows-phone-7-stunning

Windows Phone 7.8!

Having bought the htc hd7 Im very happy that MS has atleast thought of offering something to us first generation guys! I have been wanting to upgrade, but I did figured that windows phone 8 would need new hardware to run it so waiting has been very good. I do feel kind of bad for the Nokia Lumina owners though. The Nokia 900 is an awesome phone, but upgrading into that phone you still had that 50-50 chance. Maybe Nokia can offer a trade-in upgrade program for those people. The 1st and 1.5 gen window phones has some good life in them. Its going to take some time for the win8 phones to evolve and good the good games and such. And Im so happy that MS decided to have an accessible sd slot.
I can't say I am happy we won't get WP8 ...
But I think WP7.8 can be a good compromise.
I need the complete list of the 7.8 upgrade features before make a final judgement.
All I can say is that the GUI change won't be enough to make me happy :/
You'd definitely get the revamped UI.
But, you'd be let down on the future apps section(as they'd be coded in native code). I'd recommend you to sell it, and buy the WP8 devices once it arrives.
Dissapointed in this. But understandable. Why develop a new is which runs on current tech when its not going to be available for a short while. Build it in for the latest tech and look forward.
Still doesn't help my titan, so can only hope this 7.8 update is worth while.
Will we still get this 'smartglass' its a feature im keen to usltilise and im also looking to get a surface once available so would like to be assured of compatibility
Well I am disappointed. I am a student and paid 350€ for a Lumia 800 back in December. So I guess I wont receive the majority of new apps at the end of the year. I planned to keep this device for around 3 years. But now I guess that most of the new apps will be coded for WP8. Another thing is, that the current generation of WPs will drop in price now that it is official that we wont get an update. I'm really frustrated... But I hope that MS and Nokia keep the updates coming.
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I need the complete list of the 7.8 upgrade features before make a final judgement.
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Agreed. We know very little at this stage. Plus I got my Lumia 900 months ago for free. By the time there is a Windows Phone 8 handset that is comparable that is selling for the same price I will be halfway through my contract. I don't mind waiting around for <yr before my next upgrade.
MSFT just needs to come out with a good OS and user experience. It is pointless to shoe horn Windows Phone 8 onto hardware that can't run it. I like the Lumia 900 because of lack of lag. I don't want the experience to be marred.
babu.rajiv2007 said:
You'd definitely get the revamped UI.
But, you'd be let down on the future apps section(as they'd be coded in native code). I'd recommend you to sell it, and buy the WP8 devices once it arrives.
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??
What we will use instead for the next 6 months if we sell it?
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What we will use instead for the next 6 months if we sell it?
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A Treo Pro one of my most favorite phones by the way.
So many duplicate threads!
Sorry guys, please continue this discussion in one of the others.
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Lumia owner cheated and angry.

Of the lumia 900 owners, how many of you feel cheated and angry over how Microsoft is handling WP8.
1. Yes
2. No
A little cheated. Glad MS tried with 7.8 but I'm just worried about how that will fare down the line with 22 months left on my contract. Don't think I'll be waiting to find out.
pgsxdjp said:
A little cheated. Glad MS tried with 7.8 but I'm just worried about how that will fare down the line with 22 months left on my contract. Don't think I'll be waiting to find out.
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I believe it's a very good point for the class action against MS and AT&T. Just keep googling for that and be ready to join
Won my lumia 900, and I planed to get an updated wp8 device anyway, so, to answer your question, no I don't feel cheated. I might be angry at myself anyway for buying one knowing dual core was coming in a few months (if I had signed a contract)
Considering all the features coming for WP8 and 7.8 haven't been announced yet, I don't feel cheated at all. I imagine more is coming in 7.8 than they stated today. Joe Belfiore was very specific that they have MANY great things to talk about with consumer features, but that wasn't the point of the conference today.
I'll feel pretty cheated if the only features WP7.8 gets is the new start screen...
pgsxdjp said:
A little cheated. Glad MS tried with 7.8 but I'm just worried about how that will fare down the line with 22 months left on my contract. Don't think I'll be waiting to find out.
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Im going to sell.
The technoweenie in me wants to buy a WP8 when it comes out, but the realistic human in me feels cheated...
I just bought the Lumia 900, and to hear that a new version of the OS is coming out soon and that the product I just bought will be un-supported and development ceased (for the most part) pisses me off...
I'm pissed off enough that I'm still waiting for a purple screen fix, and now this?
If I were a Lumia owner I'd definitely feel cheated.
Looks like the Lumia 900 is going to be the Galaxy S+ of the Windows world.
Thrown to the market and 2 months afterwards you got outdated software because the manufacturer never planned to provide updates.
Not receiving updates seems to get normal in the mobile industry in some way.
This would be the point to switch to Android for me, but I'm not a big WP7 fan I have to admit.
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If I were a Lumia owner I'd definitely feel cheated.
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Why? We don't even know the Windows Phone 7.8 features?
land.apfel said:
Thrown to the market and 2 months afterwards you got outdated software because the manufacturer never planned to provide updates.
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We've received two manufacturer updates already. And there have been at least two announced future updates... Tango and Windows Phone 7.8.
dtboos said:
Considering all the features coming for WP8 and 7.8 haven't been announced yet, I don't feel cheated at all.
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This is an interesting concept. So you think we should actually wait and see what updated features we will be getting before criticizing them? Great idea!
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Of the lumia 900 owners, how many of you feel cheated and angry over how Microsoft is handling WP8.
1. Yes
2. No
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Once all Windows Phone 8 and 7.8 are out why don't you ask this question and add a poll to your thread? Make it a good poll with at least one option that says I'm satisfied.
There is still a chance that Nokia will provide WP8 on the Lumia 800/900 isn't there? I wouldn't jump to any conclusions just yet.
Before anyone starts ranting about the announcement, Nokia is not Microsoft. Stop, think. Avoid replying anyway.
at45 said:
There is still a chance that Nokia will provide WP8 on the Lumia 800/900 isn't there? I wouldn't jump to any conclusions just yet.
Before anyone starts ranting about the announcement, Nokia is not Microsoft. Stop, think. Avoid replying anyway.
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I don't know about the Hardware requirements. I haven't watched the keynote, but I don't think they've given a NFC requirement for all phones. Interesting thought. I guess it could happen. I don't think it will, although it would be nice, of course. Then again, maybe WP7.8 will be better than thought. Who knows?
I don't understand what it is people think they will be missing. WP8 brings support for dual core, high def screens, and NFC hardware. Does your phone have any of that? No. So you wouldn't be able to enjoy those features anyway even if WP8 did run on your phone.
Ok so we may not get the true multi tasking and Skype running in the background - we don't actually know yet - but did you buy your phone only on the basis that you would definitely get that one day? Is your phone suddenly going to stop working the day WP8 comes out? Are app developers all suddenly going to abandon the installed base of users for a new OS that doesn't have one yet?
When I got my Lumia two weeks ago, I knew that there was Skype coming with "serious" integration and VoIP API for others. I also knew that Microsoft bought Skype so I was expecting it.
At least that the Lumia 800 was for free.
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When I got my Lumia two weeks ago, I knew that there was Skype coming with "serious" integration and VoIP API for others. I also knew that Microsoft bought Skype so I was expecting it.
At least that the Lumia 800 was for free.
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Its always been said that skype couldnt work on WP7 due to the way the OS operates and while its not great im still happy they released some sort of app rather then not bother at all
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I believe it's a very good point for the class action against MS and AT&T. Just keep googling for that and be ready to join
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You can't be serious?!
Zero. Give thanks that you get 7.8. Try to image Android users still stuck on Froyo or Gingerbread. Or 3GS or iPhone 4 users moving to iOS6.
Get over it and move to the future. 8 looks to be a fantastic competitor to iOS and Android.
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Zero. Give thanks that you get 7.8. Try to image Android users still stuck on Froyo or Gingerbread. Or 3GS or iPhone 4 users moving to iOS6.
Get over it and move to the future. 8 looks to be a fantastic competitor to iOS and Android.
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This is different. The Lumia is a flagship that just came out. I'm amazed at how some of you are okay with this.
"Get over it and move to the future."?
Wtf man, what about all the people who got this on contract? You expect them to just "move to the future" and buy a new device off contract this early on?
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LOL... I think Nokia gonna do something to help out the customer who did bought the Lumia product recently... I got what you mean...
Da, it sucks to register for a device for 2 years and then stuck with it (that is why i never sign the damn contract). But i believe Windows Phone 7.8 is actually Windows Phone 8 BUT without all the functions that require the physical hardware to handle.
Time will tell. Personally, i don't feel any lost, i changed phone almost every holiday season of the year. 2010 = First Windows Phone (HD7), 2011 = Mango Windows Phone (Eternity) , 2012 = Windows Phone 8. I am curious about what HTC has to offer for us.
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I don't understand what it is people think they will be missing. WP8 brings support for dual core, high def screens, and NFC hardware. Does your phone have any of that? No. So you wouldn't be able to enjoy those features anyway even if WP8 did run on your phone.
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I think you may have just described Microsoft's reason for not updating existing phones i.e. not because they are too old or too slow but because they won't benefit enough from the new features to justify the investment.
"Microsoft’s Greg Sullivan revealed the reasons behind the company’s choice not to offer a direct upgrade from Windows Phone 7.x to Windows Phone 8.
Describing some of the latest hardware changes in Windows Phone 8, that we outline here, Sullivan explained that "the nature of the investment [in Windows Phone 8] is primarily in areas that are not exploitable by existing hardware." Windows Phone 8 introduces support for multi-core processors, amongst other things, so the "Lumia 900 getting support for using dual-core or NFC doesn't mean a lot," says Sullivan, "because it doesn't have the hardware to take advantage of that." Microsoft decided to focus its efforts on Windows Phone 8 to make it as good as it possibly could. "To do the work to bring all of those elements to a platform that can't exploit them wasn't necessarily the most efficient use of resource," explains Sullivan."
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Can we jailbreak Lumia 900 to change UI and install third party apps?

Hi Folks,
Sorry if this thread is a duplicate. I couldn't find anything on web regarding jailbreaking Lumia 900. I'm really frustrated with W7 mobile OS. Like many of you I moved from apple/android just to try different. But now I'm feeling very bad about my decision and am stuck with this piece for another year. I was wondering if there is jailbreak software available. I just can't download and install anything on this phone. A simple change of theme or font is also restricted. Maybe I'm not aware of techniques which would help. Can someone please tell me how to install new themes, change look of the interface, make it more lively like android or IOS interface? Appeciate your response.
Thanks,
Rookie19
It is rooting, not jail breaking.
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There is no way to get "root" on the Lumia 900 at the moment. Even then all you can really do is add new accent colors to tweak the UI. I don't think font's can be changed, and you certainly can't make it look more like iOS or Android.
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There is no way to get "root" on the Lumia 900 at the moment. Even then all you can really do is add new accent colors to tweak the UI. I don't think font's can be changed, and you certainly can't make it look more like iOS or Android.
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Thanks for the response. Hope someone figures out rooting this mobile soon.
It may come, but with the 920 on the Horizon, I'd call it a safe bet that what little interest there seems to be in the dev community on the 900 (None.) will drop even lower.
Agreed ...
exiva said:
It may come, but with the 920 on the Horizon, I'd call it a safe bet that what little interest there seems to be in the dev community on the 900 (None.) will drop even lower.
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well it seems (base on what i have read) that the nokia's bootloader is way locked down. i bought a lumia 900 just to play around with it before the lumia 920 comes out. i was hoping to see some form of development for the 900 but that seems unlikely. which is really sad. i was hoping to learn from some development in the 900 so when i buy the 920 ill be ready. all this lack of development for the 900 (while some of the windows phone like the focus has lots of development. which one dev already cooked up a wp8 rom for) is making me think twice about jumping on the 920 bandwagon. good thing that pawnshop i bought the nokia lumia 900 from does 30days money back guarantee hehe.
i was debating between the 920 and the galaxy note 2. now im leaning more towards the note2. man i really wanted to get a nokia phone (my go to phone brand before the iphone came out).
on the side note: how the heck do you lower the keyboard keys volume down or at least turn them off. its starting to annoy me
edit: found how to turn off keys sound. anyway to just lower the volume in them?
It's under settings/ringtones+sounds.
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It's all about interest
I retired a Samsung Focus that I had a great, and very time consuming, time modifying and flashing. I think there are several things going on here. I believe the type of person who buys the Nokia Lumia 900, in general, has little interest in modifying beyond what the OS provides. In addition, the OS is getting better all the time and eliminating the need to modify. These are just general observations. I know several of you will come back and say, "Hey, I want to flash and modify". OK, great. Most people do not. I no longer have any desire to go beyond what new releases of the OS provides. Why the heck would anyone want to buy a WP7 device to mod it to look like the Android or IPhone OS????? That is absurd. If you want those OS's and UI's, buy them, but don't complain that WP7 won't let you make it look like those other UI's.
I have a Nokia 900 that has never had a reboot, freeze or slowdown in almost a year. I would NEVER go back to the days of custom ROMs and sideloaded XAPs and the slowdowns, feezes and random reboots that come along with the wild, wild west approach. No thank you to that mess. When I was into it I convinced myself I had to do it and it was fun. Now that I have WP7.5 and the Nokia 900, I know I was only fooling myself and I wasted hours a day.
I don't believe there is a chorus of users asking for this, nor developer interest in doing the work to find loophole to take advantage of.
Amen Brother!
Yes, interest
Hi James Allen, hi all
Sorry about my english, I'm from Spain.
In my opinion, you're full in right. If people whant's something else, why don't they by "this" something else.
I'm fully satisfy with my Lumia 900. It's smart, fast, and I did not see one error or bug in the hole month since I bought it.
OS Version 7.10.8779.8
Firmware Version 2175.2503.8779.12301
It just would be nice to could put my self-made xap on it (no third party) I'm programmer. As I red, that the Lumia would approve to run Silverlight-Applications, it was one point more, to get it. I'm working for a project in Silverlight/C# professionally and on my own I have developed many tools in several areas. It just would be nice to get them running on this little fine handy. But for trying and so, it's to much to pay $99 a year just to could put 10 Applications inside. And never know, if they will be something at the end.
Right this tools you named, I was trying last weekend to make them run (hours to find something, and then to see, it's impossible),
ChevronWP7 and WP7 Root Tools to unlock the phone and access the file system.
Like you, I spent mounths with stuff like that, Nokia, Samsung, Wii, Dreambox (I never liked the iPhone), and at the end it just was for waisting time. I never play with my Wii and when, only Mario (with the Game I bought), with the games in Samung Handy, I played about 2 days. and my Dreambox ist empty in a box, cause after bring it to work, when I watch TV, then just a Blu-ray or DVD, so I erased all and putted away. My friends look at me, as would I be an alien
But this time it's different, I want my phone to get running my applications but it seems I have to wait for a custom rom for a long time, or to make my tools get running on the sdk-emulator, and if it seems to be good, to pay this damn $99.
Anyway it was really interesting, to read what you wrote on friday.
If you have some information about to get running the "ChevronWP7" and/or the "WP7 Root Tools" on Lumia 900, every help is really welcome!
Till there is something, I first go on developping
Have a nice Sunday!
JamesAllen said:
I have a Nokia 900 that has never had a reboot, freeze or slowdown in almost a year.
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How's that possible? The Lumia 900 is only 6 months in the market...?

Revive Android Port to Lumia 710 cash reward

It pains me to see this wonderful project die out so quickly. I feel as if there is a way but the motivation to find is close to zero. I have taken it upon myself to call all lumia and windows experts to revive this project as it will lead to many great things in the future. I am offering $200 to each developer who is willing to make android a reality on lumia devices. I have researched the little progress we have made and feel that the n9 is very similar to our device. This means we can change and use there ports to our advantage.
Please I'm calling all devs to help in this task!
Virusbetax said:
It pains me to see this wonderful project die out so quickly. I feel as if there is a way but the motivation to find is close to zero. I have taken it upon myself to call all lumia and windows experts to revive this project as it will lead to many great things in the future. I am offering $200 to each developer who is willing to make android a reality on lumia devices. I have researched the little progress we have made and feel that the n9 is very similar to our device. This means we can change and use there ports to our advantage.
Please I'm calling all devs to help in this task!
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Let me ask you one simple thing: Why?
Why do you want to have Android running on a Lumia WP7 device? If you want Android, than simply by an Android phone. Or go and by a Nokia N9 and Install Andoid JellyBean Alpha 5 (i think this is the latest release).
I have Android running on my Nokia N9, and it's nice, and respekt to the developers, but it's not stable, not everything is working and maybe it will be like on the N900, stuck in alpha or beta state, because of issues no one could see in the beginning...
N9 has 1GB RAM, Lumia800 has only half of that... Do you really think Android is running smooth on a Device less than 1GB RAM?
I don't.
Another thing i thought about:
Android can only run on Nokia N9 with dual boot. I don't think we have the way to install dual boot on any WP7 devices. Even though we have full unlock now (respekt to ultrashot at this point!!! )...
Another thing: The Hardware of Lumia phones is great for WP7. But only for WP7. For every other system, it's way too weak.
I wish it wasn't so. If there is anyone out there who can help I'm waiting. I really like android but I can't find the n9 anywhere where I live and it's price is way to high.
Seriously, better spend your 200$ into an Android device, there are enough out there that will suit your needs. It doesn't make sense to spend 200 bucks for a port/OS that isn't designed for the Lumia. Also 512MB RAM is maybe really too low for current Android versions.
I agree... Take your Lumia, sell it, use the money with your $200 to buy the Android phone you want and stop Trolling the Windows Phone threads... It's not possable right now on ANY WP7/WP7.5 device.
And no, I dont think any one is doing it nor cares to...
DavidinCT said:
I agree... Take your Lumia, sell it, use the money with your $200 to buy the Android phone you want and stop Trolling the Windows Phone threads... It's not possable right now on ANY WP7/WP7.5 device.
And no, I dont think any one is doing it nor cares to...
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Dude, you really need to chill. Who died and made you God? If the man wants to port Android on a Lumia or a toaster, let's see if we can help him. It's what makes these communities work.
fatclue said:
Dude, you really need to chill. Who died and made you God? If the man wants to port Android on a Lumia or a toaster, let's see if we can help him. It's what makes these communities work.
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Unless you are a developer who would do it, I don't see how this $200/developer offer really is sane? Ok, I undersand as a hobby and to learn and develop this is fantastic. BUT it is as good as "port Jelly Bean on iPhone 5 please!" - unrealistic.
If I had as much money as the OP, trust me, I would own an iPhone 5 and pre-order the Lumia 920 and HTC 8X and then get the new Nexus!
drupad2drupad said:
Unless you are a developer who would do it, I don't see how this $200/developer offer really is sane? Ok, I undersand as a hobby and to learn and develop this is fantastic. BUT it is as good as "port Jelly Bean on iPhone 5 please!" - unrealistic.
If I had as much money as the OP, trust me, I would own an iPhone 5 and pre-order the Lumia 920 and HTC 8X and then get the new Nexus!
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That wasn't the point. Poor guy gets flamed by some entitled little snot when he/she is asking a legitimate question. I don't know if it can be done or not, the point is maybe someone reading this does know and can offer help. We were ALL noobs once.
No need to be rude here, but porting Android to Lumia 710 just doesnt make any sense. If you want Android just buy Android device.
Loco5150 said:
No need to be rude here, but porting Android to Lumia 710 just doesnt make any sense. If you want Android just buy Android device.
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Last time I checked this was xda DEVELOPERS. Porting an OS into a device with a completely different arrangement is how innovation is fostered. The whole Open WebOS project is based on that philosophy. Porting Android on the HP TouchPad, the HTC HD2 and others would never have happened if someone didn't first get a wild hair up his a$$. I encourage this idea no matter how crazy it sounds. You never know what you may discover while you're on that path.
Thanks guys for the support and I enjoy the criticism. I just think this phone has potential I didn't mean to anger anybody. I though this forum was for devs who make magic happen on phones that's why I posted this thread. Anyways the lk bootloader is already been installed on this device and fastboot is operational. The only thing in the way is something to do with LCD drivers so it's not a fantasy its close to realistic. Search it on google for yourself. There is github set for this device with the files and installing bootloader is as easy as copying and pasting the bootloader into a certain folder.
I am agreeance with everyone else if you have $200 to burn, buy an Android device
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fatclue said:
Last time I checked this was xda DEVELOPERS. Porting an OS into a device with a completely different arrangement is how innovation is fostered. The whole Open WebOS project is based on that philosophy. Porting Android on the HP TouchPad, the HTC HD2 and others would never have happened if someone didn't first get a wild hair up his a$$. I encourage this idea no matter how crazy it sounds. You never know what you may discover while you're on that path.
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Yes this is XdaDEVELOPERS, but the real point here is that the OP wants Android to he's device and is now offering $200 for the port. Ok, it is not because he wants to do it just for the fun, he wants Android. At the same time he says he doesnt have money to buy N9. Now spending $200 for this just doesnt make sense. IF with a ****load of work people would succeed on this, most likely it would be very buggy and missing functionality, at least for a very long time. It is only right that people tell the OP that he is way better off on just buying an Android device than thinking about porting.
I would see this differently if the OP would be here saying look guys, I have ****load of money and I offer $xxx if someone can port Android to Lumia just for the fun of it and see if its possible. In this case of course, this is XdaDEVELOPERS and I wouldnt even comment, just be following can someone really do it.
I also assume that $200 + selling the Lumia would enable the OP to buy a GOOD Android device. Most importantly everything would be working...
EDIT: With quick search I see NEW 16GB SGS II:s for 350€ at eBay.de... Dont know if thats the cheapest, or SGSII best bang for the buck at Android, but Im sure you couldnt go wrong with that if you want that OS.
Here in Italy you can get a Galaxy Nexus for 279€ in some malls.
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Loco5150 said:
Yes this is XdaDEVELOPERS, but the real point here is that the OP wants Android to he's device and is now offering $200 for the port. Ok, it is not because he wants to do it just for the fun, he wants Android. At the same time he says he doesnt have money to buy N9. Now spending $200 for this just doesnt make sense. IF with a ****load of work people would succeed on this, most likely it would be very buggy and missing functionality, at least for a very long time. It is only right that people tell the OP that he is way better off on just buying an Android device than thinking about porting.
I would see this differently if the OP would be here saying look guys, I have ****load of money and I offer $xxx if someone can port Android to Lumia just for the fun of it and see if its possible. In this case of course, this is XdaDEVELOPERS and I wouldnt even comment, just be following can someone really do it.
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Huh? Buggy and missing functionality is the title of most unofficial Android builds yet people flock to them. A buzz is created and more often than not, bug fixes start cropping up. I'll give you a perfect example. My old Droid Pro had an unofficial CM build for it, but it was based on the Droid 2. My present Droid X has a ton of unofficial builds but none of them work properly. I like the ICS theme a lot but I need my phone to function properly.
It's very easy to just say "buy and Android device and save the $200" then tell that same person to flash a buggy, incomplete ROM and look to the community for help. Obviously the OP prefers Nokia products, and deservedly so, and doesn't want a plasticky Samsung or anything from HTC.
I do not wish to purchase a new android device as I'm under contract as well as I do not feel like going through the hassle of selling my phone (not very popular in USA anymore). And I wanted this port for fun my life didn't depend on getting this port or something. I just feel that we are very close to getting android and trying just a little harder might get it for us. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who wants this port. There are others out there as well who do not have the money to buy an android phone. As you guys said I could easily buy an android phone but I want this for the community not just me.
By the way 275 euros is 400 dollars and 325 euros is like 500 dollars
Everyone who says that "if you have money to offer for devs to try porting android to your wp7, why not try to buy android phone if you want it" is right. But for me, running a different OS on a device/mobile made with specific OS is very cool :fingers-crossed:
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Virusbetax said:
I do not wish to purchase a new android device as I'm under contract as well as I do not feel like going through the hassle of selling my phone (not very popular in USA anymore). And I wanted this port for fun my life didn't depend on getting this port or something. I just feel that we are very close to getting android and trying just a little harder might get it for us. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who wants this port. There are others out there as well who do not have the money to buy an android phone. As you guys said I could easily buy an android phone but I want this for the community not just me.
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You're right. Everyone who are against your idea are just being practical. I don't disagree with them because they are right but i got this unexplained feeling on porting different OS in a specific device/mobile. I do have HD7 and I also want it to be able to run in android OS. It's really cool if it can be done by devs.
I seriously doubt that if Android is succesfully ported to Lumia everything would work... Wlan, bluetooth etc etc... Im sure it would take a lot of time to get it running fully, if ever. Also as brought up here earlier the fact that the 710 has 512mb of ram is going to be an issue with the latest Android builds.
I hope you get the port, dont let me spoil your day.
BTW, 275€=$359 today. And if you are in the States Im sure you can find Android phones even cheaper than I suggested. I think I saw something like 330 bucks for SGSII.
Double_O_Rizer said:
Everyone who says that "if you have money to offer for devs to try porting android to your wp7, why not try to buy android phone if you want it" is right. But for me, running a different OS on a device/mobile made with specific OS is very cool :fingers-crossed:
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You're right. Everyone who are against your idea are just being practical. I don't disagree with them because they are right but i got this unexplained feeling on porting different OS in a specific device/mobile. I do have HD7 and I also want it to be able to run in android OS. It's really cool if it can be done by devs.
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It stands to reason there is a chance. If the HD2, which started life as a Windows Mobile 6.1 device, could be ported with Android AND Windows Phone 7, I don't see why the Lumia 710 couldn't be "Frankensteined" as well. For those of us who are webOS fans, you know what I mean.
Practicality has its merits but there are some of us who like to do the improbable just for sh!ts and giggles. Personally, I shoe-horned a twin-turbo Buick V-6 in a Vega some 30 years ago and followed that with a 351-powered Pinto. The phone analogy is that neither one could be driven in the rain because there was simply no sticky tires back then, so the functionality was very limited.

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