I have seen several conflicting threads on this, but no clear solution. Basically, the problem I have is that if I move more than 50 or so apps to my SD card (I have heard others complain about the problem manifesting at around 70 apps) a race condition occurs during the card scan, which since it doesn't complete before a timeout, causes the phone to soft reset (basically reload just the top level OS above the continuously running kernel). These resets then continue to occur at semi-random intervals, such as every time you try to access the memory card. So far, the only fix I have is to delete apps from the SD card, and it really doesn't matter which ones they are, only that above a certain number, the system becomes unstable, and I presume it is because the system cannot index all of the apps fast enough. I can't believe the stupid Samsung engineers never thought of fixing this.
Anyway, I am running a stock, rooted kernel, stock ROM, but the internal memory is nearly full with all of the large applications that for whatever reason cannot be moved to SD. Does anybody have any viable options?
I have heard of some people using app2SD. I have heard of others remapping their external storage to sd_card with the USB storage mapped to sd_card/external_sd. I tried replacing my memory card (Sandisk, 16GB, Class 2) with a brand new, out of box (Sandisk, 16GB, Class 6), and I am still limited to the same number of installed apps. I'm not sure, but I think the number of active widgets on the desktop may also be a contributing factor (all of my widgets are stored to internal memory).
I have about 180 apps on my phone and have never run out of room; what do you have on there that takes up so much space?
if its data, then move that to an external sd...
wase4711 said:
I have about 180 apps on my phone and have never run out of room; what do you have on there that takes up so much space?
if its data, then move that to an external sd...
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Well, first of all, I've never removed the Sprint bloatware. I also have the Amazon App store and (on the assumption that my SD card still has gigabytes of storage) pretty indiscriminantly "purchase" and install Amazon's free app of the day, plus all the other apps I've gotten from Google Play. By latest count, it is around 360 apps, and that was after I deleted several large apps that for some horrible reason couldn't be moved to the SD card, including PoolBar (50MB+), Android Phrase Book (26 MB+), some other tennis game I got from Amazon (20+MB), none of which gave you the option of offloaded to SD. About 110 of the apps were games, 25 utilities, 24 media apps, 20 social networking apps, 19 shopping apps, 17 travel apps, 16 PIM apps, 11 photo manipulation tools, 11 internet apps, 8 maps and navigation, etc.
Complicating matters, Android has a /data/data directory which has soft links to all the applications installed on your system, regardless of whether they are installed on internal or external memory, and each link must be the filesystem minimum 4KBs each. Looking at root explorer, I see that this directory alone is over 300MBs of internal storage.
well, the answer to your problem is easy; get rid of 1/2 the **** on your phone that you never use, and you will be fine!
if you don't use it every day or at least once a week, its gotta go
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Well, first of all, I've never removed the Sprint bloatware. I also have the Amazon App store and (on the assumption that my SD card still has gigabytes of storage) pretty indiscriminantly "purchase" and install Amazon's free app of the day, plus all the other apps I've gotten from Google Play. By latest count, it is around 360 apps, and that was after I deleted several large apps that for some horrible reason couldn't be moved to the SD card, including PoolBar (50MB+), Android Phrase Book (26 MB+), some other tennis game I got from Amazon (20+MB), none of which gave you the option of offloaded to SD. About 110 of the apps were games, 25 utilities, 24 media apps, 20 social networking apps, 19 shopping apps, 17 travel apps, 16 PIM apps, 11 photo manipulation tools, 11 internet apps, 8 maps and navigation, etc.
Complicating matters, Android has a /data/data directory which has soft links to all the applications installed on your system, regardless of whether they are installed on internal or external memory, and each link must be the filesystem minimum 4KBs each. Looking at root explorer, I see that this directory alone is over 300MBs of internal storage.
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I can't imagine ever installing that many apps, but whatever... If it we me, I would start by trimming off anything you "know" you have never or will never use. After that I would concentrate on putting the biggest apps on the SD card and the rest on the internal. I have 122 apps installed on internal only with much room to spare and I am sure there are things I just will never use. LOL
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I can't imagine ever installing that many apps, but whatever... If it we me, I would start by trimming off anything you "know" you have never or will never use. After that I would concentrate on putting the biggest apps on the SD card and the rest on the internal. I have 122 apps installed on internal only with much room to spare and I am sure there are things I just will never use. LOL
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It really isn't hard to use a bunch of apps, particularly with all the websites, including this one, that have their own viewer apps (or Wikipedia, urban dictionary, etc.). Anyway, I have all my apps in folders so it still only requires 2 pages of apps. I think it is stupid that they designed the operating system so that you would be app limited, even with an unlimited amount of storage via the sd card slot. I hope this is one feature they fixed in ICS. A much better strategy for exploiting the multilevel memory architecture would have been to allow the user to install ALL nonessential apps to the SD card by default, eliminating the need for soft links in internal storage, and then use the internal storage as a nonvolatile app cache with an LRU replacement policy. This would then give the most commonly used apps the performance benefit of running from internal storage without the user having to go moving crap around. It would actually be very similar to what Intel is now doing with solid-state drives as a hard disk cache with the new Z68 chipset.
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Has anyone on EVO come across this problem. I keep getting low disk space on my EVO. I uninstall apps to get more internal space, but then it drops again. On Friday I had approx 48mb of internal storage, then by 4:00pm I had 323 kb. I uninstalled a bunch of apps and now I am back at around 48mb.
I went into sd and storage to monitor my space. I also went into menu settings/ applications to see what was taking up the space. By chance I noticed that my Mail icon in the morning was at about 75mb and when I checked it that afternoon it was at 111mb. I called sprint tech support and we deleted/ then added my email accounts again to see if that would clear up space. We also set the max amount of space for msgs to 25 kb. text only. This seems to be working, but still under my mail settings under applications, the MAIL still shows using up about 95mb of storage.
Sprint tech support states that that is really high, but for some reason it is not something that can be erased. Of course I can always do a wipe, but that is always as a last resort. Just trying to gain back some of that precious internal storage.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
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In the few years I spent supporting mobile phones for companies low internal storage space was almost always caused by pictures, mp3s, and movies.
So how much of that do you have on your phone?
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In the few years I spent supporting mobile phones for companies low internal storage space was almost always caused by pictures, mp3s, and movies.
So how much of that do you have on your phone?
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The EVO saves that kind of media to the SD card.
OP, what ROM are you running?
I know that apps like streamfurious will cache its content and store it to the phones memory. It can Max you out in a matter of hours. Do you use streaming apps?
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I know that apps like streamfurious will cache its content and store it to the phones memory. It can Max you out in a matter of hours. Do you use streaming apps?
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A misbehaving app is probably the culprit. I'd really recommend Cachemate in the market. There's a chance that one run of that may solve your problem.
Also, if OP is running CyanogenMod w/ Turbo that'll occupy a good amount of internal memory as well.
I use Xiia Live llite. Usually in the evening. . I'll check that out and see if it shows how much is cached.
Thanks
I'll check it out. thanks. Ok it cleared about 3mb.
My mail icon still shows 99 mb of data. If you go menu, settings,applications, manage applications, It brings up everything that you have installed. You can list them by size. The Mail icon HTC, is the one taking up all the space. is there any way to eliminate it? I am running rooted 2.1. I will probably OTA to 2.2 tonight and unrevoke 3.21. Don't know if this will help.
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I'm running into low storage also.... I have alot of apps but have moved most to sd card that I can... Anymore tips to get storage back?
So whenever I change roms, or re-root my phone, I tend to have to reinstall all my programs since I had a terrible experience with Titanium. Regardless, not a huge deal since I tend to enjoy trying new apps and what not. But...I realized that a ton of crap is left on my sd card. Is there a "safe" way to go around and cleaning that crap up without fearing that it'll affect my phone, or the apps that are installed? Any suggestions on how to maintain the "cleanliness" of my sd card? Same goes for internal storage as well...
Try SDmaid it's in the market free. It will clean out any left over files that have no programs/apps associated to them. I use it all the time.
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I just bought a new HTC One V and i want apps to be installed on my sd card and i cant(there is a very low percentage of apps that can what should i do??)My phone is not rooted and i am not willing to root it too.Please help me out
Are you running out of storage for apps? It should be totally unnecessary to do this. You have 1GB of space to use. Storing apps to the SD card only slows them down.
@CafeKampuchia: really i didn't know that but i want to shift apps to sd card so that the phone is fast
Then don't move them. Moving apps to the SD card may have made older devices faster, but not this one. It's got plenty of fast memory for apps.
I suggest you leave apps on the device unless you're running out of memory, which basically isn't going to happen until you spend a couple hours randomly downloading large apps from Google Play.
I seem to have an issue with my internal storage in the Settings app. When I select Storage to display how much I have used it showed 277 mb used in Pictures,videos. I had about 16 pictures/videos in there, along with a bunch of "empty" places. I deleted those empty places and cleared the cache, no difference. I checked the gallery and it showed the same pictures, along with videos from a couple of games, and one game I had uninstalled, Shadowgun. There were two videos and two "empty" videos for Shadowgun. I deleted these four, and instead of going down the amount of space used for Pictures, videos actually went up to 410 mb used. One more thing on these videos, the two were the same, except that one had a path listed under details and the other one did not. All four were the same size, about 30 mb. Any ideas?
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You could try using SD Maid to help you out. Sometimes thumbnails generated by the gallery result in huge (300+ mb) sizes (SD Maid could get rid of them and additional unneeded files for you).
I'm also having problems with internal storage, I'm getting low space warnings with almost nothing installed. I reloaded from stock image and after reinstalling my apps it said I was only using 1gb, my tablet is used as a car stereo so no photos are taken and all media is on the sd card but now 3 days later it says I am using 4gb of internal storage without adding any new apps or adding anything to the tablet also I am noticing my tablet lag horribly sometimes when coming out of sleep. any help would be appreciated
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I'm also having problems with internal storage, I'm getting low space warnings with almost nothing installed. I reloaded from stock image and after reinstalling my apps it said I was only using 1gb, my tablet is used as a car stereo so no photos are taken and all media is on the sd card but now 3 days later it says I am using 4gb of internal storage without adding any new apps or adding anything to the tablet also I am noticing my tablet lag horribly sometimes when coming out of sleep. any help would be appreciated
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Since you have it in your car, I'm guessing your using GPS nav?
There seems to be a bug with the GPS caching. Check the data/GPS folder for a ton of dated txt files (something like gl-2012-07-01-9573859.txt). And delete them. That folder can grow to a few gb of space of not cleared.
You will have to be rooted to see and mod the GPS folder. Your only other option if you not rooted is to factory reset.
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Since you have it in your car, I'm guessing your using GPS nav?
There seems to be a bug with the GPS caching. Check the data/GPS folder for a ton of dated txt files (something like gl-2012-07-01-9573859.txt). And delete them. That folder can grow to a few gb of space of not cleared.
You will have to be rooted to see and mod the GPS folder. Your only other option if you not rooted is to factory reset.
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Its good to know whats causing it I will probably stray away from using the gps as much.
I'm not rooted and probably wont root as I am only weeks away from swapping out the acer a100 for a nexus 7. I already have a buyer lined up for my a100 and don't want to risk anything before the sale
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I had this issue one of the culprits: gogle play, clear that cache it also stores mp4.
Hi guys, I posted this over at android central but I also wanted to post here to get as much help as possible.
"Guys,quick question. I haven't been on stock rom for a long while but I kind of missed using the S-pen and someone suggested a stock-based custom 4.3 rom that I actually like so I've stuck with it for the time being. Now, I never really bothered with move to SD mods because I've learned to use my internal and external memory more efficiently but I figured if it's feature in TW I might as well take advantage since I'll be traveling abroad for two months come Dec. Well I've noticed that even after the apps are "moved" to the SD card, I don't regain any usable space on my internal card. I downloaded a game that's 779MB. My internal reduced from 3GB to 2.2GB. Okay. So I moved the game to my SD card. It moved 778MB to the SD card and 656KB remained on my phone. However, my internal only went from 2.2GB to 2.3GB. What?
I went back and calculated all the games I moved over and I've barely recovered more than 500MB for close to 30 games/apps moved to SD. All the games are still taking up close to their entire size in internal memory. Then what's the point? I have a 64GB class 10 card. Can someone enlighten me on what the hell is going on? I normally would just shrug of when things fail this like this but actually being tempted to use it and then finding it broken is really irritating."
"Also, I should point out that none of the storage is taken up by game data. Usually when I finish game and haven't touched it for a while I just clear data and uninstall. However, I will be traveling with a organization that specializes in providing AIDS/HIV care and education to developing nations, so I will going to multiple small villages across five countries. I'm not counting on having any kind of service for a good majority of the time so I thought "great" I'll take advantage of this new feature and download every game I've ever bought so I have something to occupy my time during the plane/train rides. I haven't downloaded any games on my phone since I got the N7 so every game currently on my phone is newly downloaded and never opened, so, no game data."
Any help would be much appreciated.
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Hi guys, I posted this over at android central but I also wanted to post here to get as much help as possible.
"Guys,quick question. I haven't been on stock rom for a long while but I kind of missed using the S-pen and someone suggested a stock-based custom 4.3 rom that I actually like so I've stuck with it for the time being. Now, I never really bothered with move to SD mods because I've learned to use my internal and external memory more efficiently but I figured if it's feature in TW I might as well take advantage since I'll be traveling abroad for two months come Dec. Well I've noticed that even after the apps are "moved" to the SD card, I don't regain any usable space on my internal card. I downloaded a game that's 779MB. My internal reduced from 3GB to 2.2GB. Okay. So I moved the game to my SD card. It moved 778MB to the SD card and 656KB remained on my phone. However, my internal only went from 2.2GB to 2.3GB. What?
I went back and calculated all the games I moved over and I've barely recovered more than 500MB for close to 30 games/apps moved to SD. All the games are still taking up close to their entire size in internal memory. Then what's the point? I have a 64GB class 10 card. Can someone enlighten me on what the hell is going on? I normally would just shrug of when things fail this like this but actually being tempted to use it and then finding it broken is really irritating."
"Also, I should point out that none of the storage is taken up by game data. Usually when I finish game and haven't touched it for a while I just clear data and uninstall. However, I will be traveling with a organization that specializes in providing AIDS/HIV care and education to developing nations, so I will going to multiple small villages across five countries. I'm not counting on having any kind of service for a good majority of the time so I thought "great" I'll take advantage of this new feature and download every game I've ever bought so I have something to occupy my time during the plane/train rides. I haven't downloaded any games on my phone since I got the N7 so every game currently on my phone is newly downloaded and never opened, so, no game data."
Any help would be much appreciated.
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move to SD feature only move your apk to your external sd card..not your sd data..sd data remain in internal storage.
sora9009 said:
move to SD feature only move your apk to your external sd card..not your sd data..sd data remain in internal storage.
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Yeah...I know.